Keith wrote: > Hi Does anyone have the PRs for Wrestlingworth regards Keith > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > Hi I have the PR on fiche up to 1812, if that's of any help.

(page 22) No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 208 William Hedding House & Close 14/5/0 " Garden 3/0/0 0/8/7 ½ 209 Peter Addington Land 15/10/0 0/7/9 210 William Stratton House 4/0/0 " Land 5/7/8 0/4/8 ¼ 211 Rowland Payne House 1/0/0 0/0/6 212 Francis Dennis Do & Garden 4/0/0 0/2/0 213 Saml Stringer House 1/0/0 0/0/6 214 John Colburt " 1/10/0 0/0/9 215 Rich Kefford " 1/10/0 0/0/9 216 James Reed " 1/10/0 0/0/9 217 Thomas Ayres " 1/10/0 0/0/9 218 1/10/0 0/0/9 219 William Bazley 14/5/0 0/7/1 ½ (totals) 69/17/8 1/14/2 ¼ 0/0/9 (page 23) No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 220 Thomas Adam House & 4/0/0 0/2/0 221 Thomas Harper Close 1/10/0 " Land 4/0/0 0/2/9 Richardson House & Shop 5/0/0 0/2/6 222 Thos Pestell House & Garden 5/0/0 0/2/6 223 John Neal " 6/15/0 0/3/4 ½ 224 William Harwood 1/10/0 0/0/9 225 John Nuns 2/0/0 " Garden 1/10/0 0/1/9 House 3/0/0 0/1/6 226 Thos Addington House & Farm 178/16/6 " House & Farm 57/17/0 " Gooseberry Hall 5/10/0 6/1/1 227 Addington Land 19/19/0 " House 37/19/11 " Cottage & Garden 3/10/0 " Land 1/14/5 3/0/7 (totals) 396/1/10 9/16/6 ½ (page 24) No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 228 William Hedding Farm 42/5/4 Close 1/0/0 1/2/0 229 Richard Emery House 5/4/4 0/2/7 ½ 230 John Howkins Farm 213/14/5 " " 182/3/5 " Land 16/8/7 " " 18/1/0 10/15/2 ½ 231 Ambrose Marriott Farm & 94/5/0 " " 73/10/2 ½ 4/3/10 ½ 232 Solm Hawkins " 80/18/5 2/0/5 ½ 233 Mrs Sharman " 76/0/0 1/18/0 234 Joseph Ford " 14/10/11 0/7/3 235 John Horell " 360/4/4 (totals) " " 104/10/0 11/12/4 ½ (page 25) No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused 236 David Lamb Farm 123/10/0 3/1/9 237 Sol Addington 1/0/0 0/0/6 238 Edward Arnold Farm 114/0/0 2/17/0 239 Edwards Land 16/4/1 0/9/1 ¼ 240 Peter Whiteman " 19/0/0 0/9/6 241 James Hedding " 15/5/8 0/7/7 ½ 242 John Smith " 2/5/0 " " 4/0/0 0/3/1 ½ 243 Gabriel Smith " 19/19/0 " " 28/10/0 1/4/3 244 William Sharman " 16/17/3 0/8/5 (house) 362/11/0 9/1/3 ¼ (page 26) No of Assessment Names of Occupiers or Persons Rated Description of Premises and Property Rated Annual Value Sums assessed at 6d in the Pound Amount of Arrears of former Rate if any Total Amount to be collected Amount actually collected Date when collected Amount not recoverable, or legally excused ("Thomas Harper" lined out) ("House" lined out) ("1/10/0" line out) Richard Rogers " 1/10/0 Joseph Falkner " 1/10/0 Grey " 1/10/0 Cooper " 1/10/0 " 1/10/0 Ben Mealock " 1/10/0 John Peck " 1/10/0 (total) 12/0/0

Hi Peter There's no extra detail in the transcript. Pre 1837 you won't get ages or fathers names, just the names of the witnesses, which unfortunately the transcript doesn't give. You'd need to check the microfilm for that. I assume the three baptisms are 30 Sep 1764 son of Henry and Elizabeth 2 Nov 1766 son of John and Sarah 26 Jul 1767 son of Henry and Elizabeth It looks as though the first one died although there's no burial - but there is a burial of John son of John on 13 March 1766. I wonder if the PR is wrong and it should be John son of Henry. Naming patterns don't seem to help either. They didn't name any of their sons Henry, and John was their third son! With two baptised only a few months apart it's going to be a job to split them. David --- En date de : Dim 21.3.10, Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : > De: Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> > Objet: [BDF] MAULDEN PR's - 1788 Marriage of JOHN SHARP & ETHEL FISHER > À: bedford@rootsweb.com > Date: Dimanche 21 mars 2010, 7h00 >       Does anyone have > access to Maulden PR's and could look up the above > marriage? > >     I'm trying to ascertain John Sharp's age or > parents. > >     There are three John Sharp's christened > 1765-1775 in Maulden that could > possibly be the groom. > >                 > *************************** > >       International Genealogical Index / > British Isles - 3 >       Select records to download - (50 > maximum) > >            1. JOHN SHARP > - International Genealogical Index >             Gender: Male > Christening: 30 SEP 1764 Maulden, Bedford, England > >            2. JOHN SHARP > - International Genealogical Index >             Gender: Male > Christening: 02 NOV 1766 Maulden, Bedford, England > >            3. JOHN SHARP > - International Genealogical Index >             Gender: Male > Christening: 26 JUL 1767 Maulden, Bedford, England > >                 >         ************************ > >              The > first one possible died. He is shown as the son of Henry > Sharp and Elizabeth (probably Haynes). But so is the third > one. > >              The > second one is the son of John Sharp and Sarah (probably > Hill) > >              I just > need some little clue that might help identify which > John married Ethel Fisher. > >              Peter > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to some brilliant detective work from Steven Gibbs, I think I can put this case to bed. ( I must be getting old. It's usually me that does these sort of finds.) Free BMD has an Jun 1874 marriage at Whitechapel between Daniel Frederick Sinfield and Hanna Mortimer. Daniel variously swaps between Daniel and Frederick. In 1891 and 1901 the surname is mistranscribed as Linfield. In 1881, he is Frederick Sinfield. In 1891, he is Daniel Linfield In 1901, he is Frederick Linfield. To confuse matters further, eldest daughter Hannah is registered as Anne Elizabeth in 1874, but youngest daughter is registered as Annie Matilda but marries as Ann Elizabeth. But all the other pieces fit. A son Alfred is born in Dec 1898 and the death of his mother Hannah is registered in March qtr 1899 at age 48. And in 1901 Frederick is shown as a widower with most of the other children. So thanks again Steven for the help. It looks like they don't link to the Bedfordshire families after all. Peter

Kia Ora Peter The time your family is "missing" was, as you know, the high point of colonisation. Have you checked whether the family emigrated & returned? Also you don't mention the father's occupation which might be critical to identifying him. Cheers Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] DANIEL SINFIELD c1860 - father of Ann ElizabethSINFIELDb1887 > Richard, > > Thanks for your efforts. But I don't think that's them. > > Remember, she gives her father as Daniel. > > There is also an Annie Matilda Sinfield registered Dec 1887 in Bethnal > Green. That's the right location and fits age exactly. But Matilda is > wrong. > > And where is she in 1891 and 1901. And where's Daniel? > > Peter > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Steven, You're brilliant. Don't tell me the christening was on IGI. It was that late, I didn't even bother to check. I'm prepared to accept Annie Matilda (Elizabeth) Sinfield. It fits on age and location, and we have the right parents. I'll now have to find when and where Daniel (or Frederick) was born and see if we can link him with one of the many Sinfield families from Bedfordshire. Many thanks, Peter

Marlene, Ann Sinfield married in Bethnal Green. So one would presuppose she didn't migrate. Her father was a Carman. Both bride and groom give their address as 52 Pollard Row, in the parish of St James The Great. Peter

Richard, Thanks for your efforts. But I don't think that's them. Remember, she gives her father as Daniel. There is also an Annie Matilda Sinfield registered Dec 1887 in Bethnal Green. That's the right location and fits age exactly. But Matilda is wrong. And where is she in 1891 and 1901. And where's Daniel? Peter

Calling all those SINFIELD researchers of which I am one myself. I have a Bethnal Green, Middlesex marriage certificate dated 29/9/1907 between John Elms 21 and Ann Elizabeth Sinfield 20, (birth est 1887). Ann gives her father as Daniel Sinfield, and presumably he is still living, as John Elms father is shown as deceased. But I can't find a Daniel Sinfield in 1891 or 1901 living in London with a daughter Ann (and variants). And the only three Daniel's in 1881 are in Bedfordshire but none go close to the 1863 birth date below. Going back to 1871, there is a Daniel Sinfield born c1863 living in Bethnal Green with parents William Sinfield and Hannah. William is born c1830 at Woburn. But they all seem to disappear after 1871. I've tried every combination I can think of. I'm wondering if one of the many Sinfield researcher on this list has a spare Daniel tucked away somewhere. Peter in Sydney

Hello Linda, This family was from Great Barford. Partial transcripts of Great Barford census returns and parish registers can be found on my website at http://www.sgibbs1.freeserve.co.uk/gtbarford/ For what it's worth, I'm almost certain that the correct 1891 census record is the one where William is in Tottenham, as a navvy. (The Bedford boot repairer can also be found in 1881 and marries in 1885 which rules him out.) Steven ----- Original Message ----- > > Hi, > I'm new to this board and am looking for information for my GG > Grandfather William Alfred Kempton born 1852 in Bedfordshire.

If could make all this work if the marriage certificate was for Annie Matilda Sinfield, not Ann Elizabeth. Annie Matilda Sinfield was born to Daniel Frederick & Hannah Sinfield on 19th Nov 1887 and baptised 8th Feb 1891 at St John, Bethnal Green. Daniel was a carman. The family can be found in 1891, written and indexed as Linfield RG12/270 f125 p19. The family can be found in 1901, indexed by Ancestry as Linfield (the image is ambiguous, but I think it is an "S", not "L"). The father's name is given as Frederick, now a widower, but it is definitely the right family. RG13/292 f60 p49. Maybe Annie didn't like the name Matilda. Or maybe, despite all the coincidences, this is the wrong family. Steven

Hi, I'm new to this board and am looking for information for my GG Grandfather William Alfred Kempton born 1852 in Bedfordshire. Originally the surname was spelled Kimpton but for whatever reason he changed it to Kempton. He married Sarah Betts about 1872 and had several children Sarah Matilda, William Arthur, Sophia Grace, Emily Jane, James. Supposedly there are two additional children Tom born 1882 and Eliza Maud born 1885. I've not been able to confirm either of these births as being the children of William and Sarah - can anyone help with that? Secondly sometime between 1885 and 1887 Sarah left William taking up with Alfred George Clayton. Their first daughter was born in 1887. As to what happened to William is unknown. I've found two census records in 1891 for a William born 1852 in Bedfordshire - one with a wife Ann and the other with a wife Louisa. According to early census records William was an "Ag Labourer" and these two census records list him as a Boot Repairer and a Navvy. When daughter Emily Jane married in 1906 she listed her father as being a Construction Foreman so obviously he was still living at that time. (Her father in law was listed as deceased). Anyone have any idea's as to where to go from here in locating the correct records and or death entry for William. Thank you, Linda Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, any distribution, copying, or use of this e-mail or its attachments is prohibited. If you received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete this message and any copies. Thank you.

On the other hand, the Ann Elizabeth in my previous email may be the wrong person, as the 1991 census gives: SINFIELD John Head M M 37 Chalk Lime Labourer(Em'ee) Bedfordshire - Tilsworth SINFIELD Sarah Emily Wife M F 26 Bedfordshire - Battlesden SINFIELD Annie Elizabeth Dau - F 2 Bedfordshire - Tilsworth SINFIELD Rebecca Ruth Dau - F 1 Bedfordshire - Tilsworth SINFIELD William Brothr M M 52 Chalk Lime Labourer(Em'ee) Bedfordshire - Tilsworth [Tilsworth is quite near Woburn] Richard -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Booth Sent: 19 March 2010 06:37 To: bedford@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] DANIEL SINFIELD c1860 - father of Ann Elizabeth SINFIELD b1887 Calling all those SINFIELD researchers of which I am one myself. I have a Bethnal Green, Middlesex marriage certificate dated 29/9/1907 between John Elms 21 and Ann Elizabeth Sinfield 20, (birth est 1887). Ann gives her father as Daniel Sinfield, and presumably he is still living, as John Elms father is shown as deceased. But I can't find a Daniel Sinfield in 1891 or 1901 living in London with a daughter Ann (and variants). And the only three Daniel's in 1881 are in Bedfordshire but none go close to the 1863 birth date below. Going back to 1871, there is a Daniel Sinfield born c1863 living in Bethnal Green with parents William Sinfield and Hannah. William is born c1830 at Woburn. But they all seem to disappear after 1871. I've tried every combination I can think of. I'm wondering if one of the many Sinfield researcher on this list has a spare Daniel tucked away somewhere. Peter in Sydney The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Peter According to FreeBMD, there is an Ann Elizabeth Sinfield born in Woburn, on the birth index for 3rd quarter 1888, but annoyingly the reference is Woburn, Volume 3b, page 36_ [which I presume means the transcriber cannot make out the last digit of the page number]. However, if that is the correct person, that does tend to put them still in Woburn in 1888, so maybe the move to London was later than you thought? Regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Booth Sent: 19 March 2010 06:37 To: bedford@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] DANIEL SINFIELD c1860 - father of Ann Elizabeth SINFIELD b1887 Calling all those SINFIELD researchers of which I am one myself. I have a Bethnal Green, Middlesex marriage certificate dated 29/9/1907 between John Elms 21 and Ann Elizabeth Sinfield 20, (birth est 1887). Ann gives her father as Daniel Sinfield, and presumably he is still living, as John Elms father is shown as deceased. But I can't find a Daniel Sinfield in 1891 or 1901 living in London with a daughter Ann (and variants). And the only three Daniel's in 1881 are in Bedfordshire but none go close to the 1863 birth date below. Going back to 1871, there is a Daniel Sinfield born c1863 living in Bethnal Green with parents William Sinfield and Hannah. William is born c1830 at Woburn. But they all seem to disappear after 1871. I've tried every combination I can think of. I'm wondering if one of the many Sinfield researcher on this list has a spare Daniel tucked away somewhere. Peter in Sydney The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you very much to those who have replied to my query regarding the Mormon Family Research Centre at Cutenhoe Road, Luton. I will try ringing them to discover if they still run a Research Centre as I really want to find somewhere near at which I could access the post 1858 Will Indexes. I have back pain problems so anywhere I travel has to be by taxi therefore Watford or Stevenage would be too expensive and uncomfortable for a return journey. From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst Mem. of Wells Assn. (GOONS Reg.). ----- Original Message ----- From: <eve@varneys.org.uk> To: "Merryl Wells" <merryl.wells@one-name.org>; <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:43 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Luton Mormon Research Centre > From: "Merryl Wells" <merryl.wells@one-name.org> > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > Date sent: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:05:40 -0000 > Subject: [BDF] Luton Mormon Research Centre > Send reply to: bedford@rootsweb.com > >> Hi, >> >> Many years ago I used to visit the above Centre at the Mormon > Church >> in Cutenhoe Road, Luton which was open for research four > evenings a >> week. Now wishing to go again I cannot find it with regard to the >> times of opening. Can anyone help please? >> > It would be listed under 'St Alban's Stake', though, as you know, it is in > Luton. - or was a few years back. I haven't been over there recently, > so you would need to check. > The phone number is 01582 482234 > There is an actiuve centre at Watford, certainly (01923 251471) > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.791 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2755 - Release Date: 03/18/10 19:33:00

From: "Merryl Wells" <merryl.wells@one-name.org> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Date sent: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:05:40 -0000 Subject: [BDF] Luton Mormon Research Centre Send reply to: bedford@rootsweb.com > Hi, > > Many years ago I used to visit the above Centre at the Mormon Church > in Cutenhoe Road, Luton which was open for research four evenings a > week. Now wishing to go again I cannot find it with regard to the > times of opening. Can anyone help please? > It would be listed under 'St Alban's Stake', though, as you know, it is in Luton. - or was a few years back. I haven't been over there recently, so you would need to check. The phone number is 01582 482234 There is an actiuve centre at Watford, certainly (01923 251471)

Hi Merryl, Check your local phone book for The Church Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints. Daphne New Zealand. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Merryl Wells" <merryl.wells@one-name.org> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:05 PM Subject: [BDF] Luton Mormon Research Centre > Hi, > > Many years ago I used to visit the above Centre at the Mormon Church in > Cutenhoe Road, Luton which was open for research four evenings a week. > Now wishing to go again I cannot find it with regard to the times of > opening. Can anyone help please? > > From > Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. > E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org > GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst > Mem. of Wells Assn. (GOONS Reg.). > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ NOD32 4953 (20100317) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > >

Merryl, I'm not a local, but according to the list, it looks like the Luton centre has closed. The nearest to Luton seem to be Stevenage or Watford, depending where you live. A full list with opening hours is on the LDS at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/FHC/frameset_fhc.asp But years ago, they didn't have the internet. You can now probably do most things from home on your own computer. The above site will have most available indexes of parish records up to 1837 and www.freebmd.org.uk will have civil registrations after that date. Obviously, if you want to view original PR's on fiche or film etc, you have to go to an LDS or FHS centre or a county record office. And the full list of census records can be searched on a pay per view basis at Find My Past or Ancestry. If you're lucky you may even find a local library of research centre that allows free access or charges a daily search fee. Peter in Sydney

Hi, Many years ago I used to visit the above Centre at the Mormon Church in Cutenhoe Road, Luton which was open for research four evenings a week. Now wishing to go again I cannot find it with regard to the times of opening. Can anyone help please? From Merryl Wells of Luton, Beds. E-Mail: merryl.wells@one-name.org GOONS Mem. No. 1757 Reg. ONS: Bawtree; Gullick/ock, Moist/Moyst Mem. of Wells Assn. (GOONS Reg.).

Pleased it may be of use. I'll tidy it up and send you a descendant register if that's OK. Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Strange" <mjstrange@btinternet.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 10:39 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] LARKINS - Biggleswade - Stray > On 17 Mar 2010 , Pamela Morris-Kennedy said: > > While researching Kent I came across a stray LARKINS from BDF, may be of > interest to someone. > > Elizabeth LARKINS bap 18 Jan 1784 Biggleswade to John & Mary > 30 Sep 1819 Deal KEN Elizabeth LARKINS married Thomas THOMPSON > If you are interested in more details - descendants etc. - please ask. > Pamela > --------------------------- > > That's one for our web site Pamela, many thanks. > I can add for you that John was a blacksmith, an item in the register that > does not appear on the > IGI of course. > > Any other information about her, or any other Biggleswade event, will be > gratefully received. > > -- > Best regards > Mike Strange > Vice Chairman - Biggleswade History Society > www.BiggleswadeHistory.org.uk > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >