Hello Stella, Interestingly I had noted a possible marriage of Eliza Denton (if Joseph had died) to either Mark Copperwheat or William James W. Simms at Ampthill. Do you have a Mark Copperwheat among your Copperwheat's. At present I cannot see a connection with your Denton's, unless through Copperwheat, but many thanks, Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "stella porteous" <ell.mar@virgin.net> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON > Unfortunately I don't have YOUR Dentons but I do have a few others all b > Marston Beds. > James b 1819 m to Mary Copperwheat--children Elizabeth--Isabella--James b > 1847. > This James M Elizabeth Whittington > --children--Walter--William--Herbert--Alfred--Frederick--Ethel--Bertie--Eliz > abeth. > > Are any of these Dentons of interest? > > Regards Stella > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of normil@xtra.co.nz > Sent: 28 June 2010 05:03 > To: BEDFORD@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON > > > Can anyone help with this family. > > I have the marriage certificate 15 December 1881 for JOSEPH DENTON aged 27 > a > Labourer at Midland Station Bedford, bachelor, father is Samuel Denton > Labourer, to ELIZA ANNE JOHNSON age 25 years (age is incorrect as she was > born appx. 1847) spinster, father is Robert Johnson a builder. Married at > Register Office Bedford. Witness' are Geo Johnson and S. Wadsworth - > brother and sister of Eliza. > Eliza was born appx. 1847 in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire and I have her on > the > 1861(13yrs),1871 (23yrs),1881 (33yrs) census' but I cannot find them after > their marriage in 1881. She possibly changed her age on the marriage > certificate as she would have been 33 and Joseph 27, so I am not sure what > age she used in the intervening years. > There is a possible death of an Eliza Ann Denton on Free BMD in 1894 but > if > this is her, where was she in 1891, I have searched but cannot find them. > If anyone is researching the Denton's or can shed any light on these folk > it > would be much appreciated. > Kind Regards, Norma Johnson > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Eliza b 1864 her parents were James Denton and Mary Ann Thompson. Mary Ann was his 2nd wife they m in 1861, his first wife was Mary Copperwheat, they m 1839. Stella -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of normil@xtra.co.nz Sent: 28 June 2010 21:28 To: bedford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON You don't happen to have a birth date or place or parents of that Eliza do you? Regards, Norma ----- Original Message ----- From: "stella porteous" <ell.mar@virgin.net> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON > Hello--yes I have Mark m to Eliza Denton. They had > children--Elizabeth--Walter--Florence--Ethel--lily--Gertrude--Ernest--Annie- > -Sydney--Elsie--Rose. > > Mark had parents John Horatio Copperwheat & Lydia Wooding. > > Regards Stella. > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of normil@xtra.co.nz > Sent: 28 June 2010 20:39 > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON > > Hello Stella, > Interestingly I had noted a possible marriage of Eliza Denton (if Joseph > had > > died) to either Mark Copperwheat or William James W. Simms at Ampthill. > Do > you have a Mark Copperwheat among your Copperwheat's. At present I cannot > see a connection with your Denton's, unless through Copperwheat, but many > thanks, Norma > >> >> > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello--yes I have Mark m to Eliza Denton. They had children--Elizabeth--Walter--Florence--Ethel--lily--Gertrude--Ernest--Annie- -Sydney--Elsie--Rose. Mark had parents John Horatio Copperwheat & Lydia Wooding. Regards Stella. -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of normil@xtra.co.nz Sent: 28 June 2010 20:39 To: bedford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON Hello Stella, Interestingly I had noted a possible marriage of Eliza Denton (if Joseph had died) to either Mark Copperwheat or William James W. Simms at Ampthill. Do you have a Mark Copperwheat among your Copperwheat's. At present I cannot see a connection with your Denton's, unless through Copperwheat, but many thanks, Norma > >
Can anyone help with this family. I have the marriage certificate 15 December 1881 for JOSEPH DENTON aged 27 a Labourer at Midland Station Bedford, bachelor, father is Samuel Denton Labourer, to ELIZA ANNE JOHNSON age 25 years (age is incorrect as she was born appx. 1847) spinster, father is Robert Johnson a builder. Married at Register Office Bedford. Witness' are Geo Johnson and S. Wadsworth - brother and sister of Eliza. Eliza was born appx. 1847 in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire and I have her on the 1861(13yrs),1871 (23yrs),1881 (33yrs) census' but I cannot find them after their marriage in 1881. She possibly changed her age on the marriage certificate as she would have been 33 and Joseph 27, so I am not sure what age she used in the intervening years. There is a possible death of an Eliza Ann Denton on Free BMD in 1894 but if this is her, where was she in 1891, I have searched but cannot find them. If anyone is researching the Denton's or can shed any light on these folk it would be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Norma Johnson
Kia Ora!! For emigration from UK you will need to search Passenger lists going INTO Australia, Canada & NZ, a bit of a haul but well worth it! TRY searching Google for VICTORIA Passenger Lists for Australia and then each individual state. USA & Canada lists are available also _ Ancestry? Try your nearest large library to see if they have Ancestry available - many do. The Joseph Denton baptism I found on the Mormon site, so again check your nearest Mormon Church Family History centre and see what they have available.. Make sure you explore EVERY sibling of each generation as you often find patterns of naming, occupation, and locality as you have in 1881. Start with parents & grandparents of your husband as it's amazing what knowledge an older person might have or what is in the tin box under the bed or in the garage! Look for old photos, newspaper clippings, military records, funeral cards, school records, etc basically anything which might offer a clue - especially old letters, postcards. Have you checked Museums and Libraries in NZ in localities where the family settled in NZ? I have been amazed at what has been found- ! Cheers Marlene --- On Tue, 29/6/10, normil@xtra.co.nz <normil@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: normil@xtra.co.nz <normil@xtra.co.nz> Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON To: bedford@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, 29 June, 2010, 8:01 AM Hello Marlene, Yes I have Eliza Ann aged 3, born Dec. 1/4 1847 Newport Pagnall,Bucks. with her parents Robert and Eliza Johnson and family living at Castle Lane, Lavendon, Buckinghamshire in 1851. I am interested in the baptism of Joseph Denton with father Samuel as that would be correct, do you have any more information on that. According to Joseph's marriage certificate he would have been born appx.1854. I have no information on Joseph's birth, which would be helpful in my search. I am following the descendant family of Robert and Eliza Johnson, by husbands g.grandparents. The daughter Eliza who married Joseph Denton is one child as is Kate Johnson who was staying with her Aunt Sarah Denton in 1881. At the point I had that information I did not know Eliza had married a Denton. So I have come full circle, I wonder did Eliza marry a cousin? You mention emigration, where would I search for emigration, there seems to be passenger lists for those going into England, but I have been unable to find anything for those leaving UK between 1881 and 1891. I have nothing on Eliza and Joseph beyond their marriage in 1881 and would love to know if they had children. I will follow up your suggestion of JD and ED in the census. Thank you so much for all the research Marlene, Kind Regards, Norma Johnson - also in N.Z.! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Shipman" <marlene.s@xtra.co.nz> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:00 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON Kia Ora from New Zealand First Eliza Anne Johnson appears to have been born Sept Q 1847 Bedford 6/44.. At least that is where a birth was registered.So you should find her in 1851 hopefully with her parents. Source Free BMD. I presume you have Lavendon Bucks from censii as her place of birth? There is a birth registered Dec Q 1847 Newport Pragnell. There is a baptism of Eliza Johnson with father Robert & mother Alice Caroline at St John the Baptist London birth 27 April and Baptism 20 August 1847. A Joseph Denton was also baptised in London about that time, with a father named Samuel. I note that living next door to the Johnsons in 1881 is a Sarah Denton with niece Kate Johnson. Is that significant? Have you checked for emigration? The 1870s/80s were high points for those wishing to move to Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Some who did well stayed for a couple of decades and returned to England. Have you checked censii for initials like JD & ED? If so they may have fallen on hard times following the marriage. Are they known to have had children? Have you followed all of them? I write the above as ideas for exploration/elimination. Sometimes it is necessary to research by different experiences people may have had in life! Good Luck Marlene --- On Mon, 28/6/10, normil@xtra.co.nz <normil@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: normil@xtra.co.nz <normil@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON To: BEDFORD@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 28 June, 2010, 4:02 PM Can anyone help with this family. I have the marriage certificate 15 December 1881 for JOSEPH DENTON aged 27 a Labourer at Midland Station Bedford, bachelor, father is Samuel Denton Labourer, to ELIZA ANNE JOHNSON age 25 years (age is incorrect as she was born appx. 1847) spinster, father is Robert Johnson a builder. Married at Register Office Bedford. Witness' are Geo Johnson and S. Wadsworth - brother and sister of Eliza. Eliza was born appx. 1847 in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire and I have her on the 1861(13yrs),1871 (23yrs),1881 (33yrs) census' but I cannot find them after their marriage in 1881. She possibly changed her age on the marriage certificate as she would have been 33 and Joseph 27, so I am not sure what age she used in the intervening years. There is a possible death of an Eliza Ann Denton on Free BMD in 1894 but if this is her, where was she in 1891, I have searched but cannot find them. If anyone is researching the Denton's or can shed any light on these folk it would be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Norma Johnson The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Unfortunately I don't have YOUR Dentons but I do have a few others all b Marston Beds. James b 1819 m to Mary Copperwheat--children Elizabeth--Isabella--James b 1847. This James M Elizabeth Whittington --children--Walter--William--Herbert--Alfred--Frederick--Ethel--Bertie--Eliz abeth. Are any of these Dentons of interest? Regards Stella -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of normil@xtra.co.nz Sent: 28 June 2010 05:03 To: BEDFORD@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON Can anyone help with this family. I have the marriage certificate 15 December 1881 for JOSEPH DENTON aged 27 a Labourer at Midland Station Bedford, bachelor, father is Samuel Denton Labourer, to ELIZA ANNE JOHNSON age 25 years (age is incorrect as she was born appx. 1847) spinster, father is Robert Johnson a builder. Married at Register Office Bedford. Witness' are Geo Johnson and S. Wadsworth - brother and sister of Eliza. Eliza was born appx. 1847 in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire and I have her on the 1861(13yrs),1871 (23yrs),1881 (33yrs) census' but I cannot find them after their marriage in 1881. She possibly changed her age on the marriage certificate as she would have been 33 and Joseph 27, so I am not sure what age she used in the intervening years. There is a possible death of an Eliza Ann Denton on Free BMD in 1894 but if this is her, where was she in 1891, I have searched but cannot find them. If anyone is researching the Denton's or can shed any light on these folk it would be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Norma Johnson The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Kia Ora from New Zealand First Eliza Anne Johnson appears to have been born Sept Q 1847 Bedford 6/44.. At least that is where a birth was registered.So you should find her in 1851 hopefully with her parents. Source Free BMD. I presume you have Lavendon Bucks from censii as her place of birth? There is a birth registered Dec Q 1847 Newport Pragnell. There is a baptism of Eliza Johnson with father Robert & mother Alice Caroline at St John the Baptist London birth 27 April and Baptism 20 August 1847. A Joseph Denton was also baptised in London about that time, with a father named Samuel. I note that living next door to the Johnsons in 1881 is a Sarah Denton with niece Kate Johnson. Is that significant? Have you checked for emigration? The 1870s/80s were high points for those wishing to move to Australia, Canada and New Zealand. Some who did well stayed for a couple of decades and returned to England. Have you checked censii for initials like JD & ED? If so they may have fallen on hard times following the marriage. Are they known to have had children? Have you followed all of them? I write the above as ideas for exploration/elimination. Sometimes it is necessary to research by different experiences people may have had in life! Good Luck Marlene --- On Mon, 28/6/10, normil@xtra.co.nz <normil@xtra.co.nz> wrote: From: normil@xtra.co.nz <normil@xtra.co.nz> Subject: [BDF] Joseph & Eliza DENTON To: BEDFORD@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, 28 June, 2010, 4:02 PM Can anyone help with this family. I have the marriage certificate 15 December 1881 for JOSEPH DENTON aged 27 a Labourer at Midland Station Bedford, bachelor, father is Samuel Denton Labourer, to ELIZA ANNE JOHNSON age 25 years (age is incorrect as she was born appx. 1847) spinster, father is Robert Johnson a builder. Married at Register Office Bedford. Witness' are Geo Johnson and S. Wadsworth - brother and sister of Eliza. Eliza was born appx. 1847 in Lavendon, Buckinghamshire and I have her on the 1861(13yrs),1871 (23yrs),1881 (33yrs) census' but I cannot find them after their marriage in 1881. She possibly changed her age on the marriage certificate as she would have been 33 and Joseph 27, so I am not sure what age she used in the intervening years. There is a possible death of an Eliza Ann Denton on Free BMD in 1894 but if this is her, where was she in 1891, I have searched but cannot find them. If anyone is researching the Denton's or can shed any light on these folk it would be much appreciated. Kind Regards, Norma Johnson The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
William Pettit married Martha Pratt on 10 Oct 1786 at Milton Ernest, Beds, not Odell, according to an extracted entry on the IGI. I haven't checked the parish register to see if William was described as of the parish of Bletsoe. There are burials at Bletsoe on 2 June 1828 of William Pettit age 73, and of Martha Pettit age 60 on 21 July 1820. These ages match perfectly with the William baptised on 9 May 1755 at Bletsoe, and Martha Pratt who was baptised at Milton Ernest on 13 Sept 1761. DNA testing to prove this connection seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut. John and Elizabeth also baptised a daughter Elizabeth in 1761, but whilst I suspect she's my 4xg grandmother who married Robert Surkitt in nearby Harrold in 1785 I've never been able to come even close to proving it. David --- En date de : Ven 25.6.10, Paul Pettit <cpettit@telis.net> a écrit : > De: Paul Pettit <cpettit@telis.net> > Objet: [BDF] Pettit Family Bed, Hunts and Northants > À: bedford@rootsweb.com, northants@rootsweb.com, eng-huntingdon@rootsweb.com > Date: Vendredi 25 juin 2010, 18h22 > I am on the search for a living male > descended from any Pettit family > especially in the northwest quadrant of the county as well > Kempstona dn > Radley and adjacent parishes in Northants. > > 1. I need to prove a connection to John Pettit and > Elizabeth Bartam from > Bletsoe Parish who had two sons christened in Bletsoe, one > in 1755 and one > in 1775. I descend from William Pettit who married Martha > Pratt in Odell and > whose age is estimated to be about 1761 and 1762 - I have > not found a death > record of either William or Martha. > > 2. I would like to see others of this are do DNA testing. > Most of the DNA > tests in fact all that I know of are kindly being done by > Americans. Most > are in the western European haplogroup of R1B1. > > However, there are two sample of known men of a related > line from this area > with a different Halpogroup of I1. This separates the two > genetically into > prehistoric periods and can be used to distinguish between > different lines > and their origins. > > We have tested in both Heritage DNA and Family Tree DNA. I > any one is > interested in working together in this please contact me. > Help is needed in > researching the liens to find living males, locating them > and facilitating > people to submit a DNA samples or to help get donations to > pay for higher > level DAN tests. > > The typical DNA tests involve male and female DNA testing > from the male Y > Chromosome and female mitochondrial DNA passed on by > parents. However at > the National Genealogical Society Annual Conference in Salt > Lake which I > attended, Family Tree DNA announced anew test which > measures genomic DNA > the rest which results from what is passed down from all > ancestors. This > test times a prediction of relatedness between samples. It > is useful for > about 4 to 6 generations only. As a result, other DNA > tests are not time > dependent but for this test it makes sense to get the > elders tested as soon > a s possible before their Dan is lots - remember with each > generation one's > DNA is halved with the addition of new Dan from the new > spouse. > > I view DNA as a valuable asset, if you get it into a bank > it can accumulate > more value. IF you keep it in your pocket you are going to > spend it out or > lose it. It is also renewable but it is never the same as > the original > > Best regards > > Paul Pettit > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >
Hi David, I wrote the email without refreshing my memory. Yes you are correct, the marriage in 1786 was in Milton Ernest which leads to the association with the elder John and Elizabeth as his parents. You are right about the marriage date and the burial information I abstracted the Pettit entries from the Bletsoe PR in 1987 from LDS film. My compilation which I looked at while writing the email apparently was done before that. As far as DNA testing being a sledgehammer to crack this nut you are right about that as well, but the DNA testing is not being considered for it. I consider Dan testing even more important than considering what tejhir last name is- People can't change their DNA other than what nature does. But people can sure give a child a different last name. So if I had a great- grandmother that I thought was related to someone and I searched and couldn't find a record- well whether you want to call it a sledgehammer or whatever......... But you know a sledgehammer works on a nut, and almost any kind of nut,- but if you want to tackle a brick wall with a nutcracker- well- I really don't know what to say... The question is whether your Elizabeth's origins is peanuts to you or a brick wall- Let's get together off list on your Elizabeth and the Pettit records Best regards, Paul Pettit -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 10:55 PM To: bedford@rootsweb.com; northants@rootsweb.com; eng-huntingdon@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] Re : Pettit Family Bed, Hunts and Northants William Pettit married Martha Pratt on 10 Oct 1786 at Milton Ernest, Beds, not Odell, according to an extracted entry on the IGI. I haven't checked the parish register to see if William was described as of the parish of Bletsoe. There are burials at Bletsoe on 2 June 1828 of William Pettit age 73, and of Martha Pettit age 60 on 21 July 1820. These ages match perfectly with the William baptised on 9 May 1755 at Bletsoe, and Martha Pratt who was baptised at Milton Ernest on 13 Sept 1761. DNA testing to prove this connection seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut. John and Elizabeth also baptised a daughter Elizabeth in 1761, but whilst I suspect she's my 4xg grandmother who married Robert Surkitt in nearby Harrold in 1785 I've never been able to come even close to proving it. David --- En date de : Ven 25.6.10, Paul Pettit <cpettit@telis.net> a écrit : > De: Paul Pettit <cpettit@telis.net> > Objet: [BDF] Pettit Family Bed, Hunts and Northants > À: bedford@rootsweb.com, northants@rootsweb.com, eng-huntingdon@rootsweb.com > Date: Vendredi 25 juin 2010, 18h22 > I am on the search for a living male > descended from any Pettit family > especially in the northwest quadrant of the county as well > Kempstona dn > Radley and adjacent parishes in Northants. > > 1. I need to prove a connection to John Pettit and > Elizabeth Bartam from > Bletsoe Parish who had two sons christened in Bletsoe, one > in 1755 and one > in 1775. I descend from William Pettit who married Martha > Pratt in Odell and > whose age is estimated to be about 1761 and 1762 - I have > not found a death > record of either William or Martha. > > 2. I would like to see others of this are do DNA testing. > Most of the DNA > tests in fact all that I know of are kindly being done by > Americans. Most > are in the western European haplogroup of R1B1. > > However, there are two sample of known men of a related > line from this area > with a different Halpogroup of I1. This separates the two > genetically into > prehistoric periods and can be used to distinguish between > different lines > and their origins. > > We have tested in both Heritage DNA and Family Tree DNA. I > any one is > interested in working together in this please contact me. > Help is needed in > researching the liens to find living males, locating them > and facilitating > people to submit a DNA samples or to help get donations to > pay for higher > level DAN tests. > > The typical DNA tests involve male and female DNA testing > from the male Y > Chromosome and female mitochondrial DNA passed on by > parents. However at > the National Genealogical Society Annual Conference in Salt > Lake which I > attended, Family Tree DNA announced anew test which > measures genomic DNA > the rest which results from what is passed down from all > ancestors. This > test times a prediction of relatedness between samples. It > is useful for > about 4 to 6 generations only. As a result, other DNA > tests are not time > dependent but for this test it makes sense to get the > elders tested as soon > a s possible before their Dan is lots - remember with each > generation one's > DNA is halved with the addition of new Dan from the new > spouse. > > I view DNA as a valuable asset, if you get it into a bank > it can accumulate > more value. IF you keep it in your pocket you are going to > spend it out or > lose it. It is also renewable but it is never the same as > the original > > Best regards > > Paul Pettit > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
No you don't! It is not a very nice place, imho! But it *is* a very good site. Joan. Paul Pettit wrote: > Mike, > > Great and Good luck I hope others catch on like you- I wish my folks came > from Biggleswade! > > Paul Pettit > California > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Strange > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:55 AM > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BDF] Biggleswade is on the map for Bedfordshire > > Biggleswade is literally on the map for Bedfordshire with HistoryPin. > > 'We are What We Do' is a social movement that started in 2004 to create > ideas, products > and tools that make it easy for people to make a difference to big social > and environmental > issues. More can be found about them at www.wearewhatwedo.org. > > They devised a new campaign called 'Historypin' that aims to get people from > different > generations to spend more time together. From their surveys it became > obvious that old > photos are a great way of gathering people together and getting them > chatting {the Society > has found that out when our photo albums come out!} > > So, it was decided to create a website where people everywhere could share > their old photos > and the stories behind them. The object is to get people to dig out, scan, > upload and pin > their photos and stories to a map of the world for everyone to see. It was > also thought that > it would be good to compare the old images with how the world looks today > making the site > rather like a digital time machine. So the project asked Google to help as > they had already > photographed most of the world by satellite and from the roads on 'Street > View". > > I was asked if the Biggleswade History Society would like to take part in > the initial phase of > testing the site which I readily agreed to. Prior to the launch event on > 3rd June I had > already loaded up over 50 photographs and a few stories from our > photographic archive. If > you look on the front page of the website http://www.historypin.com you will > see that there > is a picture of Biggleswade between one of Leeds and another of Sydney - > Biggleswade is > now literally on the map! > > See the launch event, that I attended, on www.youtube.com/user/Historypin > > If you would like to take part, or to just look at what Biggleswade looked > like compared to > today, then please do go to http://www.historypin.com > > >
No you don't! It is not a very nice place, imho! But it *is* a very good site. Joan. Paul Pettit wrote: > Mike, > > Great and Good luck I hope others catch on like you- I wish my folks came > from Biggleswade! > > Paul Pettit > California > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Mike Strange > Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:55 AM > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BDF] Biggleswade is on the map for Bedfordshire > > Biggleswade is literally on the map for Bedfordshire with HistoryPin. > > 'We are What We Do' is a social movement that started in 2004 to create > ideas, products > and tools that make it easy for people to make a difference to big social > and environmental > issues. More can be found about them at www.wearewhatwedo.org. > > They devised a new campaign called 'Historypin' that aims to get people from > different > generations to spend more time together. From their surveys it became > obvious that old > photos are a great way of gathering people together and getting them > chatting {the Society > has found that out when our photo albums come out!} > > So, it was decided to create a website where people everywhere could share > their old photos > and the stories behind them. The object is to get people to dig out, scan, > upload and pin > their photos and stories to a map of the world for everyone to see. It was > also thought that > it would be good to compare the old images with how the world looks today > making the site > rather like a digital time machine. So the project asked Google to help as > they had already > photographed most of the world by satellite and from the roads on 'Street > View". > > I was asked if the Biggleswade History Society would like to take part in > the initial phase of > testing the site which I readily agreed to. Prior to the launch event on > 3rd June I had > already loaded up over 50 photographs and a few stories from our > photographic archive. If > you look on the front page of the website http://www.historypin.com you will > see that there > is a picture of Biggleswade between one of Leeds and another of Sydney - > Biggleswade is > now literally on the map! > > See the launch event, that I attended, on www.youtube.com/user/Historypin > > If you would like to take part, or to just look at what Biggleswade looked > like compared to > today, then please do go to http://www.historypin.com > > >
Biggleswade is literally on the map for Bedfordshire with HistoryPin. ‘We are What We Do’ is a social movement that started in 2004 to create ideas, products and tools that make it easy for people to make a difference to big social and environmental issues. More can be found about them at www.wearewhatwedo.org. They devised a new campaign called ‘Historypin’ that aims to get people from different generations to spend more time together. From their surveys it became obvious that old photos are a great way of gathering people together and getting them chatting {the Society has found that out when our photo albums come out!} So, it was decided to create a website where people everywhere could share their old photos and the stories behind them. The object is to get people to dig out, scan, upload and pin their photos and stories to a map of the world for everyone to see. It was also thought that it would be good to compare the old images with how the world looks today making the site rather like a digital time machine. So the project asked Google to help as they had already photographed most of the world by satellite and from the roads on ‘Street View”. I was asked if the Biggleswade History Society would like to take part in the initial phase of testing the site which I readily agreed to. Prior to the launch event on 3rd June I had already loaded up over 50 photographs and a few stories from our photographic archive. If you look on the front page of the website http://www.historypin.com you will see that there is a picture of Biggleswade between one of Leeds and another of Sydney – Biggleswade is now literally on the map! See the launch event, that I attended, on www.youtube.com/user/Historypin If you would like to take part, or to just look at what Biggleswade looked like compared to today, then please do go to http://www.historypin.com -- Best regards, Mike Chairman - Biggleswade History Society www.BiggleswadeHistory.org.uk
The Romany & Traveller Family History Society (www.rtfhs.org.uk) are having an Open Day Saturday 17th July 2010 11.00 a.m. - 4.00 p.m. at the British Red Cross Hall (nearest car park - Forge car park) Tring HP23 5BA There will be displays, indexes, bookstalls and help for those who have Gypsy ancestors in their family history or would like to get started on this fascinating hobby RTFHS Members free Non members £1
I am on the search for a living male descended from any Pettit family especially in the northwest quadrant of the county as well Kempstona dn Radley and adjacent parishes in Northants. 1. I need to prove a connection to John Pettit and Elizabeth Bartam from Bletsoe Parish who had two sons christened in Bletsoe, one in 1755 and one in 1775. I descend from William Pettit who married Martha Pratt in Odell and whose age is estimated to be about 1761 and 1762 - I have not found a death record of either William or Martha. 2. I would like to see others of this are do DNA testing. Most of the DNA tests in fact all that I know of are kindly being done by Americans. Most are in the western European haplogroup of R1B1. However, there are two sample of known men of a related line from this area with a different Halpogroup of I1. This separates the two genetically into prehistoric periods and can be used to distinguish between different lines and their origins. We have tested in both Heritage DNA and Family Tree DNA. I any one is interested in working together in this please contact me. Help is needed in researching the liens to find living males, locating them and facilitating people to submit a DNA samples or to help get donations to pay for higher level DAN tests. The typical DNA tests involve male and female DNA testing from the male Y Chromosome and female mitochondrial DNA passed on by parents. However at the National Genealogical Society Annual Conference in Salt Lake which I attended, Family Tree DNA announced anew test which measures genomic DNA the rest which results from what is passed down from all ancestors. This test times a prediction of relatedness between samples. It is useful for about 4 to 6 generations only. As a result, other DNA tests are not time dependent but for this test it makes sense to get the elders tested as soon a s possible before their Dan is lots - remember with each generation one's DNA is halved with the addition of new Dan from the new spouse. I view DNA as a valuable asset, if you get it into a bank it can accumulate more value. IF you keep it in your pocket you are going to spend it out or lose it. It is also renewable but it is never the same as the original Best regards Paul Pettit
Mike, Great and Good luck I hope others catch on like you- I wish my folks came from Biggleswade! Paul Pettit California -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Strange Sent: Friday, June 25, 2010 4:55 AM To: bedford@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] Biggleswade is on the map for Bedfordshire Biggleswade is literally on the map for Bedfordshire with HistoryPin. 'We are What We Do' is a social movement that started in 2004 to create ideas, products and tools that make it easy for people to make a difference to big social and environmental issues. More can be found about them at www.wearewhatwedo.org. They devised a new campaign called 'Historypin' that aims to get people from different generations to spend more time together. From their surveys it became obvious that old photos are a great way of gathering people together and getting them chatting {the Society has found that out when our photo albums come out!} So, it was decided to create a website where people everywhere could share their old photos and the stories behind them. The object is to get people to dig out, scan, upload and pin their photos and stories to a map of the world for everyone to see. It was also thought that it would be good to compare the old images with how the world looks today making the site rather like a digital time machine. So the project asked Google to help as they had already photographed most of the world by satellite and from the roads on 'Street View". I was asked if the Biggleswade History Society would like to take part in the initial phase of testing the site which I readily agreed to. Prior to the launch event on 3rd June I had already loaded up over 50 photographs and a few stories from our photographic archive. If you look on the front page of the website http://www.historypin.com you will see that there is a picture of Biggleswade between one of Leeds and another of Sydney - Biggleswade is now literally on the map! See the launch event, that I attended, on www.youtube.com/user/Historypin If you would like to take part, or to just look at what Biggleswade looked like compared to today, then please do go to http://www.historypin.com -- Best regards, Mike Chairman - Biggleswade History Society www.BiggleswadeHistory.org.uk The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Regarding the sort of stone likely to have been used, http://www.bedsrigs.org.uk/projects/Building%20Stone%20Atlas%20of%20Bedfordshire.pdf provides a map of the different areas and their geology. As for legibility, there are istm, two issues; corrosion of the actual stone, and the growth of lichens upon it. Lichens can grow quickly, as I found when visiting my grandmother's grave in Ireland only last week. 16 years dead, and I could only make out the inscription through touch and guesswork prompted by my aunt who had seen it previously. The size of the lettering will also affect legibility, smaller lettering eroding (and being overcome by lichens) sooner. There are a number of churches in Cockayne Hatley, which is in the Biggleswade deanery of the Diocese of St Albans; further information about them is available on the web if you google that name. It might be that a churchwarden of one of those churches could help your researches. Joan. Jackie Evans wrote: > Greetings from a new list member > > I'm new to Bedfordshire research and would appreciate any advice/pointers. > > I've known for some time that my ancestress Hannah Brookhouse (nee Moor) > 1730/32 - 1815 had died in Bedfordshire as her eldest son put a death notice > in his local newspaper. I've just found out that she was buried 24 Oct 1815 > St John the Baptist, Cockayne Hatley. > > If a gravestone was erected, is the local stone such that any inscription > would still be legible? (Her eldest son was affluent enough to have > afforded one, though I don't know whether he did so.) > > Ideally I'd like to find out if she was living there though her six children > were in Warwickshire, Leicester, Surrey and Kent. Why Cockayne Hatley?! > Maybe she was on a visit though at 80+ that doesn't seem that likely (though > not impossible). > > (Hannah married and had her children in Leicester). > > I'd be pleased to have any suggestions. > > Regards > > Jackie (in South Wales) > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >
Greetings from a new list member I'm new to Bedfordshire research and would appreciate any advice/pointers. I've known for some time that my ancestress Hannah Brookhouse (nee Moor) 1730/32 - 1815 had died in Bedfordshire as her eldest son put a death notice in his local newspaper. I've just found out that she was buried 24 Oct 1815 St John the Baptist, Cockayne Hatley. If a gravestone was erected, is the local stone such that any inscription would still be legible? (Her eldest son was affluent enough to have afforded one, though I don't know whether he did so.) Ideally I'd like to find out if she was living there though her six children were in Warwickshire, Leicester, Surrey and Kent. Why Cockayne Hatley?! Maybe she was on a visit though at 80+ that doesn't seem that likely (though not impossible). (Hannah married and had her children in Leicester). I'd be pleased to have any suggestions. Regards Jackie (in South Wales)
Hi Roger, All the best in your search - I'm just regret I wasn't able to find any of them for you... Gus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Capewell" <capewell1@tiscali.co.uk> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 10:45 AM Subject: [BDF] Capewell Walker 3 > Hello Gus, > Thank you for your observations and suggestions. > I will let you know if I am successful in finding the living > relatives that I seek. > > Best wishes from Roger > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Gus, Thank you for your observations and suggestions. I will let you know if I am successful in finding the living relatives that I seek. Best wishes from Roger
Sarah, Here are the IGI batches for Husborne Crawley from the Hugh Wallis site. Just Google "Hugh Wallis" Husborne Crawley C035651 1558-1812 E035651 C035653 1813-1868 1813-1875 M035651 1558-1709 C035654 1813-1875 M035652 1710-1812 M035653 1813-1838 1813-1885 M035654 1813-1885 There are a number of Turney BDM events. You could try sorting them into eras and families. Unfortunately, there's no obvious Ann around 1770. Perhaps she wasn't baptised, or baptised in an adjoining parish . The only likely Turney marriage for that timeframe is in 1754 between George Turney & Judith Cook, but all their children were christened at Ridgmont and there is no Ann. There is an Ann christened 1753 at Ridgmont, but that would make her 34 when married Perhaps somebody who has access to Husborne Crawley PR's could look at her 1787 marriage and see if there is any extra data or clues. Peter in Sydney