Hi everyone, I have John DASH bpt.1 May 1768 in Sandy, the illegitimate child of Elizabeth DASH. I have been trying to find Elizabeth, but to no avail. I was thinking she may have been the child of Richard and Ann DASH who had children in Sandy in the 1720's but there doesn't appear to be a baptism for her. Would anyone be able to check the registers for me to see if there is any mention of her not being from Sandy? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for your time, Donna

Hi Donna Sandy Baptisms 1736 May 29 Eliz. illeg. d of Mich Eyres & Ann Dash Could this be your Elizabeth? Illegitimates often kept their mothers' surnames. She would be 32 in 1768. There is nothing on the entry for John's baptism to indicate that Elizabeth came from outwith the parish of Sandy. No mention of John's father, either. Hope this helps. Peter Peter B Freshwater MA MCLIP FSAScot Edinburgh, Scotland peter@hillfoot.demon.co.uk Researching BRUCE, FOLWELL, FRESHWATER, PERKINS, SWINGLER (Beds, Leics, Northants) HAUGHAN, JOHNSTONE, RICHARDSON (Cumberland, Durham) DOW, FINDLAY, GRAY, JACK(SON), KENNEDY (Angus, Glasgow, Perth) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Bailey" <donnabailey77@hotmail.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2005 3:27 AM Subject: [BDF] Can anyone check the Sandy parish registers for me? > Hi everyone, > > I have John DASH bpt.1 May 1768 in Sandy, the illegitimate child of > Elizabeth DASH. I have been trying to find Elizabeth, but to no avail. I was > thinking she may have been the child of Richard and Ann DASH who had > children in Sandy in the 1720's but there doesn't appear to be a baptism for > her. Would anyone be able to check the registers for me to see if there is > any mention of her not being from Sandy? > > Any advice would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks for your time, > Donna > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Hi Listers I am trying to trace descendants of children of Emmanuel and Sarah Dear nee Wootton. The children are:- Lillian b. Welwyn c. 15/11/1874 Alfred b. Welwyn c. 22/12/1868 Frances b.Clifton c. 11/11/1855 George b.Clifton c.26/7/1857 Eliza b.Clifton c.3/4/1859 Ellen b.Welwyn c.28/6/1868 Alfred b. Welwyn c.9/3/1873 Edith b.Arlesey c. 7/6/1868 Sarah b.Welwyn c.23/1/1870 Alice b. Welwyn c. 9/3/1873 Mary Anne b.Welwyn c. 28/6/1868 Martha who was born in Welwyn and christened on 7/6/1868 married a man named Burt and their descendants settled in Welwyn and Sutton, Surrey and I have been able to trace that family. William, who was born in Welwyn and married Alice Lavinia Harwood, immigratred to Australia in 1910 with his 4 children, Bill, Bert, Edie and Len. William was my grandfather. I would dearly like to be able to trace descendants of these children. Maurie Dear, Melbourne, Australia

I am researching the names ANDREW(S) and ANDERSON in Flamstead, Gt Gaddesden (both Herts) & Luton, Beds 1750-1850. I have several pieces of info which may or may not be connected. In Hertfordshire at least, there is good evidence of the names being interchangeable, with the same people appearing under both names from time to time.. Donald Massey

Maurie It might be worth entering your interest at http://www.missing-you.net/ which is a free service. Also checking marriages at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ against the census index at http://www.1901census.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ in order to come up with a daughter's married name? It isn't a perfect answer but may give you a few leads? And it is playing the detective a bit... I would also recommend this site as most of us seemed to lose someone in the First World War: http://www.cwgc.org/cwgcinternet/search.aspx There were a lot of DEARs lost in the Great War - but the above site may be something to keep in mind. No doubt other listers will have suggestions to help best wishes cathy

just thought i would tell everyone, the website www.ancestry.co.uk has unlocked the 1881 uk census for a short time. you can get a free sign in name to view most entries, the rest you have to pay for.

Earlier this year - there was an enquiry - posted to ? Rootsweb Mail list - re Alberta Slim - Eric Charles EDWARDS. I did assist with the enquiry - but cannot find the original postings. Mr. Edwards passed away November 25, 2005 - in Surrey B.C. http://www.legacy.com/can-vancouver/Obituaries.asp?Page=Lifestory&PersonId=15822810 Stella

Patricia Salter wrote: >Hi Lila >I'm afraid you will have to wait until I start on the Shillington registers, at the moment my time is taken up with the Henlow register. I will be looking for Cherry' and Dear's but not at the moment. > That's fine - there's no hurry. Lila. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil - The Truth Against the World

This is my first list. I am trying to find who lived at 4 Clifton Road, Luton in 1946. I have a letter with christian name Freda- no surname. Any suggestions? regards, Margaret Birchfield (nee ROGERS). Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

Hi Denise You can buy them already transcribed from the Bedfordshire & Luton Archives and Records Service at www.Bedfordshire.gov.uk/archive in book form, prices ranging from £4.50 to £26, price dependent on size of parish, for example Shillington is £13.50 but Upper Stondon is only £4.50. Postage is from £1.50 for one item, 2 for £2 and so on. Cheers Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise Smart To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:46 PM Subject: RE: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Hi Patti - I noticed that you bought registers. I know that you can buy them on microfiche - are they available on CD rom or any other medium. Denise -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Salter [mailto:ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 29 November 2005 11:00 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Hi Lila I'm afraid you will have to wait until I start on the Shillington registers, at the moment my time is taken up with the Henlow register. I will be looking for Cherry' and Dear's but not at the moment. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Lila Richards To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Patricia Salter wrote: >I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. > Would you mind looking in the Shillington one for Dears and Cherrys? My maternal grandmother was born Emily Jane Dear in Shillington in 1872, and her mother was Martha Dear, nee Cherry. I'd like to find information about about any of these families, especially earlier than Emily and Martha, but any dates will be good, as I have plenty of gaps to fill. I'd be very grateful for anything you can find. Lila. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil - The Truth Against the World ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at http://www.bfhs.org.uk ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/

Many thanks to everyone who e mailed - Will take up suggestions

Patricia Salter wrote: >I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. > Would you mind looking in the Shillington one for Dears and Cherrys? My maternal grandmother was born Emily Jane Dear in Shillington in 1872, and her mother was Martha Dear, nee Cherry. I'd like to find information about about any of these families, especially earlier than Emily and Martha, but any dates will be good, as I have plenty of gaps to fill. I'd be very grateful for anything you can find. Lila. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil - The Truth Against the World

Hi Patti - I noticed that you bought registers. I know that you can buy them on microfiche - are they available on CD rom or any other medium. Denise -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Salter [mailto:ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 29 November 2005 11:00 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Hi Lila I'm afraid you will have to wait until I start on the Shillington registers, at the moment my time is taken up with the Henlow register. I will be looking for Cherry' and Dear's but not at the moment. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Lila Richards To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Patricia Salter wrote: >I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. > Would you mind looking in the Shillington one for Dears and Cherrys? My maternal grandmother was born Emily Jane Dear in Shillington in 1872, and her mother was Martha Dear, nee Cherry. I'd like to find information about about any of these families, especially earlier than Emily and Martha, but any dates will be good, as I have plenty of gaps to fill. I'd be very grateful for anything you can find. Lila. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil - The Truth Against the World ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at http://www.bfhs.org.uk ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/

Hi With regards to my earlier posting re:Hubbard I have found out his funeral service was at St Pauls Church Bedford.(1950's) Would he have been burried in the cemetry at the church or at another cemetry? Cheers Nigel ---- Message sent via Global Webmail - http://www.globalnet.co.uk/ Global MAX Broadband 2Mb now just £19.99 a month

Hi Patti Unfortunately Henlow 1624 -30 registers are deficient which is when a vital Benjamin Cooper would have been born (he was buried in 1698 and appears in Hearth Tax records in Henlow) His children mentioned in his will would have been born in the Commonwealth period, and they too fail to make an appearance as births in the parish register. Whilst Benjamin's siblings' descendants can be traced to Clifton and Langford it was via Benjamin that the Henlow Coopers of the 1800s descend. Amazing that the Coopers can be traced for 500 years in the same two villages, Arlesey and Henlow. Not exactly upwardly mobile, although my 10xg grandfather's sister who was on the Mayflower is excluded from this description of them! I have found no connection with the Hexton Coopers, and the Henlow Coopers only appear in Shillington in the 1840s seemingly having no connection with the indigenous Shillington Coopers. Regards David Patricia Salter <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit : Hi David That is exactly what I am looking for, am at the moment trawling through looking for all the Coopers, the other links Tilleys and Hursts die out in Henlow shortly after the emigration to the Colonies, although I have Hursts popping up again much later. I also have a lot of Cooper's in Hexton as well as Henlow. Cheers Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Hi Patti You'll find that there's a couple of missing Cooper links in the 1600s which connect later Henlow Coopers, like me, to the Coopers/Tillys/Sampsons who sailed on the Mayflower. Wills and the balance of probabilities are required! Regards David Patricia Salter a écrit : Hi Kathy Sorry to hear about your problems and do hope its all getting under control again. I know what a pain it is, after having my bedroom and bathroom completely renovated this year - six months of pure chaos. I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. I have just started going through Henlow and have found some early Dynnis that we dont have in our files, I havent extracted them yet as I'm working on HURST, COOPER/COWPER and TILLEY at the moment - I find its easier to go through the registers extracting 2 or 3 surnames at a time rather than doing all of them and getting completely frustrated! Take care, and hope everything is going well. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: BrookingD@aol.com To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Dear Patti, Hi I am fine, just having a SMALL family disaster, my utility room ceiling fell in!!!!!!!!!! In 1988 we had a large extension built on our house, a room off the dining room, which my teenage children, the ages they were then, used to use for friends and music, anything to keep them out of the bedrooms, and which is now the computer room with all my family history files, reference books, records etc. in, and a bedroom with ensuite bathroom over the garage for my husband and myself, a new central heating system and the front door pulled forward to create a porch and a double entry to the house. We knew that the shower in our bathroom had been leaking but did not realise that there was a hole in the floor and the water brought down the ceiling of the utility room, so for the last fortnight we have had the builders in and have had to sleep in one of the spare bedrooms, we have four altogether, not really conducive to a good nights sleep, don't you get used to your own bed, I now have permanent backache! I did know of the marriage, I thought it was probably written in the notes I attached to the charts I sent, I have the transcripts of Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Ampthill, Clophill and several others of the small parishes surrounding Gravenhurst, I would list them but I have to find the fiche box and EVERYTHING is in chaos! Fortunately they finished yesterday so today we went to see the new Harry Potter movie and then had lunch out, to get away from the mess, tomorrow we have to sort out my mother-in-law for the weekend and then this weekend we shall spend cleaning and clearing everything up, hopefully I shall be able to get back to my life next week! 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Interested in learning from the list if anyone remembers a place called Staysmore Manor, supposedly a nursing home on High Street in Carlton. My family story goes that it may have already been called that prior to the property being purchased on the name was changed afterward and the place turned into a nursing home. Bought by Reginald R. Smith and wife Ada Betty Smith (and possibly others), probably in the late 1950s. My grandmother Emma Kendall and her sister May Cookson were employed there as Ada was their half-sister. I'm interested in any and all data the list can so kindly provide (web sites, photos, contacts, written files, etc). This quest is based on learning more about Ada Betty Smith, a niece to my grandfather, a former nurse in the Princess Mary's Royal Air Force Nursing Service in WWII who took care of my grandfather, whom I never met, while on his death bed up in Barrow-in-Furness in the mid 1940s. Sincerely, Mike Kendall San Diego, CA USA

Hi Patti You'll find that there's a couple of missing Cooper links in the 1600s which connect later Henlow Coopers, like me, to the Coopers/Tillys/Sampsons who sailed on the Mayflower. Wills and the balance of probabilities are required! Regards David Patricia Salter <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit : Hi Kathy Sorry to hear about your problems and do hope its all getting under control again. I know what a pain it is, after having my bedroom and bathroom completely renovated this year - six months of pure chaos. I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. I have just started going through Henlow and have found some early Dynnis that we dont have in our files, I havent extracted them yet as I'm working on HURST, COOPER/COWPER and TILLEY at the moment - I find its easier to go through the registers extracting 2 or 3 surnames at a time rather than doing all of them and getting completely frustrated! Take care, and hope everything is going well. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: BrookingD@aol.com To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Dear Patti, Hi I am fine, just having a SMALL family disaster, my utility room ceiling fell in!!!!!!!!!! In 1988 we had a large extension built on our house, a room off the dining room, which my teenage children, the ages they were then, used to use for friends and music, anything to keep them out of the bedrooms, and which is now the computer room with all my family history files, reference books, records etc. in, and a bedroom with ensuite bathroom over the garage for my husband and myself, a new central heating system and the front door pulled forward to create a porch and a double entry to the house. We knew that the shower in our bathroom had been leaking but did not realise that there was a hole in the floor and the water brought down the ceiling of the utility room, so for the last fortnight we have had the builders in and have had to sleep in one of the spare bedrooms, we have four altogether, not really conducive to a good nights sleep, don't you get used to your own bed, I now have permanent backache! I did know of the marriage, I thought it was probably written in the notes I attached to the charts I sent, I have the transcripts of Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Ampthill, Clophill and several others of the small parishes surrounding Gravenhurst, I would list them but I have to find the fiche box and EVERYTHING is in chaos! Fortunately they finished yesterday so today we went to see the new Harry Potter movie and then had lunch out, to get away from the mess, tomorrow we have to sort out my mother-in-law for the weekend and then this weekend we shall spend cleaning and clearing everything up, hopefully I shall be able to get back to my life next week! Regards - Kathy ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez le ici !

Hi David That is exactly what I am looking for, am at the moment trawling through looking for all the Coopers, the other links Tilleys and Hursts die out in Henlow shortly after the emigration to the Colonies, although I have Hursts popping up again much later. I also have a lot of Cooper's in Hexton as well as Henlow. Cheers Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: David To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Hi Patti You'll find that there's a couple of missing Cooper links in the 1600s which connect later Henlow Coopers, like me, to the Coopers/Tillys/Sampsons who sailed on the Mayflower. Wills and the balance of probabilities are required! Regards David Patricia Salter <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> a écrit : Hi Kathy Sorry to hear about your problems and do hope its all getting under control again. I know what a pain it is, after having my bedroom and bathroom completely renovated this year - six months of pure chaos. I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. I have just started going through Henlow and have found some early Dynnis that we dont have in our files, I havent extracted them yet as I'm working on HURST, COOPER/COWPER and TILLEY at the moment - I find its easier to go through the registers extracting 2 or 3 surnames at a time rather than doing all of them and getting completely frustrated! Take care, and hope everything is going well. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: BrookingD@aol.com To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Dear Patti, Hi I am fine, just having a SMALL family disaster, my utility room ceiling fell in!!!!!!!!!! In 1988 we had a large extension built on our house, a room off the dining room, which my teenage children, the ages they were then, used to use for friends and music, anything to keep them out of the bedrooms, and which is now the computer room with all my family history files, reference books, records etc. in, and a bedroom with ensuite bathroom over the garage for my husband and myself, a new central heating system and the front door pulled forward to create a porch and a double entry to the house. We knew that the shower in our bathroom had been leaking but did not realise that there was a hole in the floor and the water brought down the ceiling of the utility room, so for the last fortnight we have had the builders in and have had to sleep in one of the spare bedrooms, we have four altogether, not really conducive to a good nights sleep, don't you get used to your own bed, I now have permanent backache! I did know of the marriage, I thought it was probably written in the notes I attached to the charts I sent, I have the transcripts of Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Ampthill, Clophill and several others of the small parishes surrounding Gravenhurst, I would list them but I have to find the fiche box and EVERYTHING is in chaos! Fortunately they finished yesterday so today we went to see the new Harry Potter movie and then had lunch out, to get away from the mess, tomorrow we have to sort out my mother-in-law for the weekend and then this weekend we shall spend cleaning and clearing everything up, hopefully I shall be able to get back to my life next week! Regards - Kathy ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez le ici ! ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/

Hi Lila I'm afraid you will have to wait until I start on the Shillington registers, at the moment my time is taken up with the Henlow register. I will be looking for Cherry' and Dear's but not at the moment. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: Lila Richards To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:30 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Patricia Salter wrote: >I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. > Would you mind looking in the Shillington one for Dears and Cherrys? My maternal grandmother was born Emily Jane Dear in Shillington in 1872, and her mother was Martha Dear, nee Cherry. I'd like to find information about about any of these families, especially earlier than Emily and Martha, but any dates will be good, as I have plenty of gaps to fill. I'd be very grateful for anything you can find. Lila. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * An Fhirinne in aghaidh an tSaoil - The Truth Against the World ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at http://www.bfhs.org.uk

Hi Kathy Sorry to hear about your problems and do hope its all getting under control again. I know what a pain it is, after having my bedroom and bathroom completely renovated this year - six months of pure chaos. I bought 5 parish registers and hope to buy more later, I bought Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Barton and Henlow. I have just started going through Henlow and have found some early Dynnis that we dont have in our files, I havent extracted them yet as I'm working on HURST, COOPER/COWPER and TILLEY at the moment - I find its easier to go through the registers extracting 2 or 3 surnames at a time rather than doing all of them and getting completely frustrated! Take care, and hope everything is going well. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: BrookingD@aol.com To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] DENNIS Family Upper Gravenhurst Dear Patti, Hi I am fine, just having a SMALL family disaster, my utility room ceiling fell in!!!!!!!!!! In 1988 we had a large extension built on our house, a room off the dining room, which my teenage children, the ages they were then, used to use for friends and music, anything to keep them out of the bedrooms, and which is now the computer room with all my family history files, reference books, records etc. in, and a bedroom with ensuite bathroom over the garage for my husband and myself, a new central heating system and the front door pulled forward to create a porch and a double entry to the house. We knew that the shower in our bathroom had been leaking but did not realise that there was a hole in the floor and the water brought down the ceiling of the utility room, so for the last fortnight we have had the builders in and have had to sleep in one of the spare bedrooms, we have four altogether, not really conducive to a good nights sleep, don't you get used to your own bed, I now have permanent backache! I did know of the marriage, I thought it was probably written in the notes I attached to the charts I sent, I have the transcripts of Upper and Lower Gravenhurst, Shillington, Ampthill, Clophill and several others of the small parishes surrounding Gravenhurst, I would list them but I have to find the fiche box and EVERYTHING is in chaos! Fortunately they finished yesterday so today we went to see the new Harry Potter movie and then had lunch out, to get away from the mess, tomorrow we have to sort out my mother-in-law for the weekend and then this weekend we shall spend cleaning and clearing everything up, hopefully I shall be able to get back to my life next week! Regards - Kathy ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com