Hello There is a death registered for an Elizabeth RAINBOW in the Ampthill district [which covers Flitwick] in 1838. See: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl However, RAINBOW is not an uncommon name around the area and Civil Registration only began in mid 1837 - so the Elizabeth you are seeking may have been married by then and/or moved away? There isnt a marriage for her listed in Flitwick [but naturally that is not to say she didn't marry elswhere] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBedford.htm#F I will check out the burial record for Elizabeth RAINBOW [who died 1838] which should give her age at time of death - but I have the feeling that it may well be the burial for Charles' second wife? I will let you know one way or the other next week.. best wishes cathy Ps: Bedfordfordshire archives is now on-line, 'though not completed yet. is worth noting: http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html

Eve McLaughlin wrote: "change of name on joining the army etc against the wishes of father". How did this work in practice? Was it necessary to obtain father's signature? Terry Barcock, Scotland

Hi Peter! I did not know how to do a given name search, so thank you for that info! I will keep plugging away and perhaps one day, we will make a connection to our families. Fortunately, mine didn't stray too far from home (until about 1900). Best wishes Mary Lou

In message <269.1fba804.30cb3c73@aol.com>, AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com writes >Listers > >Does anyone have any experience of researching for British Home Children in >the 1880s? > >Would a 2 year old British child be sent directly to a couple in Australia in >1881? And if so, would his adoptive parents have been given details of his >birth parents? Probably he would have formed part of a group of children rescued off the streets and sent abroad, or part of a family encouraged to emigrate by the agents who worked in England then. If the family /the mother died, the child might be 'left over' and taken in by a couple who either had no children or who had several and big hearts. In that case, probably the new parents had some notion of the name of the birth parents, but it might not have stuck with them. > >It seems more likely that a child would be adopted after he arrived in >Australia rather than the couple applying directly to England surely? WAS there official adoption in Australia then? There wasn't in England till 1926 Act, and people just took on ldren without formality. > >The National Archives say that is unlikely there was a passport for him when >he left anyway and ship records are a problem too it seems. The only thing that seems possible is a trawl of shipping lists for any which arrived, say, within a couple of months of the fostering, to see if there was a family who all got fever bar this one. There just might be a piece in a newspaper if the child was orphaned on ship or almost at once, and 'but it is understand Mr & Mrs Fred Smith have offered to care for the waif.' -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

In message <00cf01c5fcce$d4d41ae0$0202a8c0@yourkpfhbnwogn>, Patricia Salter <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >Hi list >I know someone has answered this question before on one of my lists but I've >lost the email - can someone explain what "alias" denotes when used in a name ie >Joan Smyth alias Fowler - Is Smyth the original surname and Fowler the married >name or vice versa? You are thinking of 'Jane Smith formerly Jones', used in birth certificates. An alias name can arise in various ways, but not in the way you mention. In the ordinary way, if she is a married woman, then it is her husband who uses or used two names; (if unmarried, the surnames were her father's) he may have acquired the alias 1. through illegitimacy, his own or his ancestor's 2. because a widow with young children remarried, and her children were known by the stepfather's name while in his home, and might keep it, or change back, or dither, as adults. 3. inheritance of an estate from a maternal grandfather or relative on condition he assumed the relative's surname. 4. change of name to avoid creditors or prosecution for a crime. 5. change of name on joining the army etc against the wishes of father. 6. adopting a name which was in effect a nickname instead of a commonplace name - Smith, everybody's called Smith - I am a fowler, so i will call myself that. 7. where a marriage is illegal (to a person related within the degrees forbidden) or where it never took place, but the couple live together long-term (and the children are illegitimate and could use either name) 8, where a name is adopted as a trading name (Kaplinsky alias Copp) or acting name (Henry Irving alias Brodribb, Miss Brown alias Foljambe) -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Charles Rainbow was buried in Flitwick 18 June 1829, 55 yrs. Therefore, he was born c1774. He married 1) Elizabeth Washington 1 Aug 1803 Flitwick They had a daughter: Elizabeth Rainbow baptized 10 Jul 1803 Flitwick 2) Elizabeth Fane 28 Feb 1820 Flitwick Does anyone know: 1) who this Charles Rainbow is 2) which Elizabeth Washington is wife #1 3) which Elizabeth Fane is wife #2 4) what became of the daughter Elizabeth Rainbow P Ruschke Vancouver BC

In a message dated 12/9/05 11:19:44 PM GMT Standard Time, eve@varneys.demon.co.uk writes: > WAS there official adoption in Australia then? There wasn't in England > till 1926 Act, and people just took on ldren without formality I understand that there would be no official adoption - that is taken as granted ... ...And yes, 'if', as a two year old British Home Child, he may well have formed: "part of a group of children rescued off the streets and sent abroad, or part of a family encouraged to emigrate by the agents who worked in England then". My question is: Would his background details have been given to his adoption/foster parents in Australia 'if' he were a British Home Child - or would his birth details have been kept secret from the Australian 'parents'? We know his adopted parents later gave him a few details of his birh family ...would they have been able to do this if he were a British Home Child? If details of a child's biological parents were kept secret from the family who took the child on as a 'British Home Child' - then I just may be able [?] at least rule out the fact that he was a British Home Child - and that the 'adoption' arrangement may have been made privately? If anyone knows how the system really worked, I would love to hear cathy

Hi Pat I can't see any Tebbutts in Cranfield in 1841. Thomas jnr is unlikely to be there as in 1851 he had a 13 year old daughter born in Middlesex, so he was already married and in Middlesex by all appearances. Oddly there were only two other Tebbutt baptisms in Cranfield - James on 3 March 1805 and Mary Gurney Tebbutt on 28 Dec 1806. The IGI, controlled extract, has Thomas Tebbutt marrying Mary Arms at Cranfield on 11 April 1803. These were the only Tebbutts baptising children in Cranfield at this time. In 1851 Mary Tebbutt age 69 widow blind born Cranfield was living in Lambeth, Surrey (south London) with her son in law William England and his wife Mary Gurney England age 44 b Cranfield. I cannot see a burial of Thomas Tebbutt snr in Cranfield, so perhaps the whole family moved to the metropolis as in 1851 James Tebbutt 46 b Cranfield was living in Whitechapel Middlesex (east London). Let me know if you need full census details in 1851. Hope this helps Regards David Pat Marshall <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> a écrit : I am trying to locate information on a Thomas Tebbutt, born in Cranfield (or Canfiled), Bedfordshire about 1811, a butcher by trade. At some point he settled in Shadwell, Middlesex and married Louisa Maria Cope. I have him in 1851, 61 & 1871 census data in Shadwell, Middlesex but am wondering if he might show on the 1841 in Bedfordshire. I'd dearly love to know who his parents were! Pat Marshal Ontario, Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. --------------------------------- Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez le ici !

Hi Pat Virtually all of Beds baptisms and marriages pre 1812 have been extracted onto the IGI, so unless he was from a non-conformist family or just wasn't baptised he should be there. There is a baptism at Cranfield on 1 July 1810 of Thomas Tebbutt, son of Thomas and Mary Tebbutt. I'll check 1841 to see if they are still around Regards David Pat Marshall <oldcrone@sympatico.ca> a écrit : I am trying to locate information on a Thomas Tebbutt, born in Cranfield (or Canfiled), Bedfordshire about 1811, a butcher by trade. At some point he settled in Shadwell, Middlesex and married Louisa Maria Cope. I have him in 1851, 61 & 1871 census data in Shadwell, Middlesex but am wondering if he might show on the 1841 in Bedfordshire. I'd dearly love to know who his parents were! Pat Marshal Ontario, Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005 ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. --------------------------------- Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez le ici !

Thomas Summerfield and Martha ? married and had their first child, Sarah in 1798, Dunstable. According to the 1851 census, Martha was born c1774 in Crawley Green, Luton. Thomas died in 1835 or 1836. I do not know where or when he was born. I would like to find their marriage. There is one on IGI between Thomas Summerfield and Martha Day, Nov 1 1796 in Lilley, Herts. According to mapquest, Lilley is now in Beds and quite close to Luton. Could someone kindly check the parish register to give me any clues, to establish if this is my couple? Any help greatly appreciated! Mary Lou on vancouver island, canada

Listers Does anyone have any experience of researching for British Home Children in the 1880s? Would a 2 year old British child be sent directly to a couple in Australia in 1881? And if so, would his adoptive parents have been given details of his birth parents? It seems more likely that a child would be adopted after he arrived in Australia rather than the couple applying directly to England surely? The National Archives say that is unlikely there was a passport for him when he left anyway and ship records are a problem too it seems. cathy

Hi list I know someone has answered this question before on one of my lists but I've lost the email - can someone explain what "alias" denotes when used in a name ie Joan Smyth alias Fowler - Is Smyth the original surname and Fowler the married name or vice versa? Cheers Patti

I am trying to locate information on a Thomas Tebbutt, born in Cranfield (or Canfiled), Bedfordshire about 1811, a butcher by trade. At some point he settled in Shadwell, Middlesex and married Louisa Maria Cope. I have him in 1851, 61 & 1871 census data in Shadwell, Middlesex but am wondering if he might show on the 1841 in Bedfordshire. I'd dearly love to know who his parents were! Pat Marshal Ontario, Canada -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.13.13/197 - Release Date: 12/9/2005

Thanks David....that's exactly what I hoped to see. Very Best Regards Jerry -----Original Message----- From: BEDFORD-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BEDFORD-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: 04 December 2005 10:28 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BDF] FW: 1841 Totternhoe Pratt look up Hi Jerry Looking at the IGI the baptism place of their children changed from Totternhoe to Houghton Regis somewhere between 1814 and 1816 so HR seemed the place to start - with an unindexed census it's the same as buying a house in the US - location location location! HO107/005-17 folio 9A Thorn, Houghton Regis Thomas Pratt 50 Farmer Lydia Pratt 50 Maria Pratt 20 Straw plaiter George Pratt 15 ag lab John Pratt 15 ag lab Sarah Pratt 15 straw plaiter Robert Pratt 13 Mary Pratt 4 Thomas Parton 20 male servant Thomas Sharp 15 male servant All born in county In 1841 ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below. so eg 15 covered ages 15-19, and 50 ranged from 50-54. Regards David Sandford Jeremy-jsandfo1 <Jerry.Sandford@motorola.com> a écrit : Applogies is this is a dupliicattion...I think the first attempt "bounced" Jerry _____ From: Sandford Jeremy-jsandfo1 Sent: 02 December 2005 16:11 To: 'BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: 1841 Totternhoe Pratt look up Hi All, Would appreciate a 1841 lookup for Lydia Pratt, In Totternhoe (or possibly Houghton Regis/Thorn, as indicated in 1851 Hoping to find with Husband Thomas and family Very Best Regards Jerry Sandford ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html --------------------------------- Appel audio GRATUIT partout dans le monde avec le nouveau Yahoo! Messenger Téléchargez le ici ! ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

I am pleased to announce the formation of The RAINS Families of Great Britain DNA Project. It has several objectives: 1. It is attempting to find links between the various regional RAINS families throughout Great Britain and the origin of this surname. 2. Within the Northamptonshire area it is trying to establish a common ancestor of the families who dwelt there for at least 400 years. Participation is open to any male with the RAINS surname (or a variation) who believes his ancestors originated in Great Britain. Further information about this new project can be found here: http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=W71905&special=True&proje cttype=S Malcolm Rains

Hi everyone, I have checked almost everywhere for my John LANE and Mary HOLDING: salford, aspley guise, husborne crawley, cranfield, moulsoe, milton keynes, bow brickhill, broughton, walton, little or great woolstone, simpson, willen woughton on the green, newport pagnell, lathbury, astwood, bletchley, great linford, hardmead etc. Can anyone tell me if there are any church records in the Salford area that are not on the IGI? Were there any non-conformist churches in Salford? If so where will I find these records? Thanks for your time, Donna

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Donna Looking at Bedforshire PRIME CD there appear to be no references with the spelling HOLDING The nearest match appears to be HOLDEN. Greatest concentration of them appears to be Eaton Socon!! But you might try Ampthill. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Donna Bailey [mailto:donnabailey77@hotmail.com] Sent: 05 December 2005 22:36 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] Non conformists in Salford? Hi everyone, I have checked almost everywhere for my John LANE and Mary HOLDING: salford, aspley guise, husborne crawley, cranfield, moulsoe, milton keynes, bow brickhill, broughton, walton, little or great woolstone, simpson, willen woughton on the green, newport pagnell, lathbury, astwood, bletchley, great linford, hardmead etc. Can anyone tell me if there are any church records in the Salford area that are not on the IGI? Were there any non-conformist churches in Salford? If so where will I find these records? Thanks for your time, Donna ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html

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Hello, I am looking for Sarah SCROGGS (nee' PRATT) who married a Francis SCROGGS or Fischer SCROGGS or Francis Fischer SCROGGS in Totternhoe. I am not 100% sure of his correct name or the above name he may actually have chosen to go by. Sarah SCROGGS was in Houghton Regis in 1851 as shown below and I think her husband died in June 1843. All the couple's three children were born in Houghton Regis I believe between 1802 and 1808. 1851 Census Houghton Regis Sarah Scroggs head widow 71 years Farmer of 240 acres employing 11 labourers David Bandy 12 yrs George Blaney 20 William Evans 19 I wonder if some one could possibly please help with this family. Regards, Jenny New Zealand