Hi to the LARKINS researchers, When you have resolved your Biggleswade folk the best you can I would be pleased to add the family to the Biggleswade History Society web site. The same goes for anyone else researching in Biggleswade of course. I am happy to take Biggleswade-related information in almost any format, Gedcom, RTF, Text etc. A presentation in outline descendant tree is the most compact. Regards, Mike Strange Archivist - Biggleswade History Society www.biggleswadehistory.org.uk

Hello Roger Thank you so much for your reply to my e-mail. My e-mail address is richard.powers@btopenworld.com I received an e-mail, which you may have seen posted, from David which pretty well confirmed that the retired draper William in the 1851 census was not George's father. However, the William that David noted as being 55 in the 1841 census was most probably George's father as Elizabeth, Wiliam and John all tie in with the children of William's 2nd marriage to Elizabeth. I am also v comfortable with William being a blacksmith. This William appears to have died in 1846. He could not find the retired draper in the 1841 census because of a fault on his CD. However, this does not tell me which of the two elder William's was the father of George and which of the two was the son of George and Elizabeth, baptised in Biggleswade 08/02/1782 as both were of very similar ages. If you have any information which may help in settling this matter and indeed anything which may take the family line back further then I would be most pleased to hear about it and I look forward to hearing from you again. Best Wishes Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: <gilbert1133@tesco.net> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] LARKINS in Biggleswade > Hi Richard, > your interest in the Larkins family of Biggleswade has caught my > eye. Some years ago there was a suggestion that my ancestress Elizabeth > Wagstaff was daughter of George & Elizabeth Larkins of Biggleswade. Not > finding the reputed information either in the Parish Registers/Bishops > Transcripts of Biggleswade, this has always been an unsolved problem. > > I am not too sure how I can help but to contact me, and let's see what we > can come up with. Professional research in the 1960s has provided me with > much information on the Larkins family of Biggleswade which may be of help > to you. > > Roger > bookworm1947@tesco.net >> >> From: "RICHARD POWERS" <richard.powers@btopenworld.com> >> Date: 2006/03/19 Sun PM 01:55:29 GMT >> To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BDF] LARKINS in Biggleswade >> >> Good Afternoon >> >> Researching the LARKINS name back from present day Nuneaton >> (Warwickshire) has led me to Old Warden/Biggleswade and to a George >> LARKINS born about 1806 in Biggleswade. >> >> >> >> >From the evidence of the censuses and IGI I have come to the conclusion >> >that George must have been baptised 01/02/1806 to William and Martha >> >LARKINS (nee HAYNES) who were married 25/02/1805 in Biggleswade. >> >> >> >> I believe that William LARKINS married again (presumably following the >> death of Martha) on 03/04/1809 to Elizabeth RHODES. This couple had >> children who included Elizabeth, baptised 1811, and William baptised >> 1812. The latter two were found in the 1861 census in Biggleswade and I >> have positively linked them to George's son James LARKINS (baptised >> 28/10/1838 in Biggleswade). >> >> >> >> I am now struggling with the birth/baptism of William LARKINS in the >> latter part of the 18th century as there appears to be alternative >> parents for him - either George and Elizabeth or Charles and Sarah. I >> have also found a possible William LARKINS in the 1851 census but, as >> yet, there is insufficient information to either rule him in or out as >> George LARKINS father. >> >> >> >> I am therefore wondering whether there might be someone else researching >> the LARKINS name who might have found out more than myself and who would >> be prepared to assist me in some way? >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> >> ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >> When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information >> that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would >> only be of interest to the individual you are replying to. >> >> > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk >

Hello David Many thanks for your reply and the info contained therein. The William you noted as being 55 in 1841 was most probably George's father as Elizabeth, Wiliam and John all tie in with the children of William's 2nd marriage to Elizabeth. I am also v comfortable with William being a blacksmith. It's a pity that you couldn't get the other William from the CD as this might have given more about his family, particularly wife, which could have helped in tracing his marriage! Either William could still have been the one baptised 1782 in Biggleswade however. I will discuss matters further with Roger but in the meantime thank you again. Best wishes Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:02 PM Subject: RE: [BDF] LARKINS in Biggleswade > Hi Richard > > A Martha Larkins was buried in Biggleswade on 7 Feb 1808, so your > remarriage idea looks sound. > > The William who was in the 1851 census was aged 67, a retired > draper, born Biggleswade ie birth 1783/4 > > In 1851 George was a general smith. > > There's a burial of a William Larkins in Biggleswade on 10 Feb 1846 > age 64 ie born 1781/2. But burial ages are notoriously unreliable and > census ages are often not a lot better. > > In 1841 George was a blacksmith. There was another family in > Biggleswade headed by William Larkins 55 blacksmith with Elizabeth 25, > William 25 also a blacksmith, and John 20, all born in Beds. Age 55 in > 1841 covered an age range of 55-59, which would tie in with the burial in > 1846. > > There is only one controlled extract on the IGI at around the right > time in Biggleswade - William christened 8 Feb 1782, the son of George & > Elizabeth. There are other member submissions, some of which claim this > William as marrying someone else, but as often with member submissions > they are completely unreliable and you should check the parish register. > Was William's occupation at George's christening mentioned, as blacksmith > seems to be a family occupation? Similarly with the 1782 christening. > > But it must be a possibility that the retired draper born > Biggleswade was the 1782 christening, and blacksmith William was born > elsewhere in Beds. Unfortunately my CDrom has developed a read error half > way through one of the Biggleswade pieces, and I can't find the other > William in 1841 > > Hopefully Roger's data may be able to help you resolve the issue > > Regards > > David > > > RICHARD POWERS <richard.powers@btopenworld.com> a écrit : Good Afternoon > > Researching the LARKINS name back from present day Nuneaton > (Warwickshire) has led me to Old Warden/Biggleswade and to a George > LARKINS born about 1806 in Biggleswade. > > > >>From the evidence of the censuses and IGI I have come to the conclusion >>that George must have been baptised 01/02/1806 to William and Martha >>LARKINS (nee HAYNES) who were married 25/02/1805 in Biggleswade. > > > > I believe that William LARKINS married again (presumably following the > death of Martha) on 03/04/1809 to Elizabeth RHODES. This couple had > children who included Elizabeth, baptised 1811, and William baptised > 1812. The latter two were found in the 1861 census in Biggleswade and I > have positively linked them to George's son James LARKINS (baptised > 28/10/1838 in Biggleswade). > > > > I am now struggling with the birth/baptism of William LARKINS in the > latter part of the 18th century as there appears to be alternative > parents for him - either George and Elizabeth or Charles and Sarah. I > have also found a possible William LARKINS in the 1851 census but, as > yet, there is insufficient information to either rule him in or out as > George LARKINS father. > > > > I am therefore wondering whether there might be someone else researching > the LARKINS name who might have found out more than myself and who would > be prepared to assist me in some way? > > > > Regards > > > > Richard > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information > that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would > only be of interest to the individual you are replying to. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les > tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez > la version beta. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Hi Richard A Martha Larkins was buried in Biggleswade on 7 Feb 1808, so your remarriage idea looks sound. The William who was in the 1851 census was aged 67, a retired draper, born Biggleswade ie birth 1783/4 In 1851 George was a general smith. There’s a burial of a William Larkins in Biggleswade on 10 Feb 1846 age 64 ie born 1781/2. But burial ages are notoriously unreliable and census ages are often not a lot better. In 1841 George was a blacksmith. There was another family in Biggleswade headed by William Larkins 55 blacksmith with Elizabeth 25, William 25 also a blacksmith, and John 20, all born in Beds. Age 55 in 1841 covered an age range of 55-59, which would tie in with the burial in 1846. There is only one controlled extract on the IGI at around the right time in Biggleswade – William christened 8 Feb 1782, the son of George & Elizabeth. There are other member submissions, some of which claim this William as marrying someone else, but as often with member submissions they are completely unreliable and you should check the parish register. Was William’s occupation at George’s christening mentioned, as blacksmith seems to be a family occupation? Similarly with the 1782 christening. But it must be a possibility that the retired draper born Biggleswade was the 1782 christening, and blacksmith William was born elsewhere in Beds. Unfortunately my CDrom has developed a read error half way through one of the Biggleswade pieces, and I can’t find the other William in 1841 Hopefully Roger’s data may be able to help you resolve the issue Regards David RICHARD POWERS <richard.powers@btopenworld.com> a écrit : Good Afternoon Researching the LARKINS name back from present day Nuneaton (Warwickshire) has led me to Old Warden/Biggleswade and to a George LARKINS born about 1806 in Biggleswade. >From the evidence of the censuses and IGI I have come to the conclusion that George must have been baptised 01/02/1806 to William and Martha LARKINS (nee HAYNES) who were married 25/02/1805 in Biggleswade. I believe that William LARKINS married again (presumably following the death of Martha) on 03/04/1809 to Elizabeth RHODES. This couple had children who included Elizabeth, baptised 1811, and William baptised 1812. The latter two were found in the 1861 census in Biggleswade and I have positively linked them to George's son James LARKINS (baptised 28/10/1838 in Biggleswade). I am now struggling with the birth/baptism of William LARKINS in the latter part of the 18th century as there appears to be alternative parents for him - either George and Elizabeth or Charles and Sarah. I have also found a possible William LARKINS in the 1851 census but, as yet, there is insufficient information to either rule him in or out as George LARKINS father. I am therefore wondering whether there might be someone else researching the LARKINS name who might have found out more than myself and who would be prepared to assist me in some way? Regards Richard ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would only be of interest to the individual you are replying to. --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta.

Thanks to both David & Jill for their answers to my query. David, I think that 'Wareing' is a possibility as I think Gamblingay is very close to Sandy. Jill thanks for your very kind offer. With regards Pat

Hi Richard, your interest in the Larkins family of Biggleswade has caught my eye. Some years ago there was a suggestion that my ancestress Elizabeth Wagstaff was daughter of George & Elizabeth Larkins of Biggleswade. Not finding the reputed information either in the Parish Registers/Bishops Transcripts of Biggleswade, this has always been an unsolved problem. I am not too sure how I can help but to contact me, and let's see what we can come up with. Professional research in the 1960s has provided me with much information on the Larkins family of Biggleswade which may be of help to you. Roger bookworm1947@tesco.net > > From: "RICHARD POWERS" <richard.powers@btopenworld.com> > Date: 2006/03/19 Sun PM 01:55:29 GMT > To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BDF] LARKINS in Biggleswade > > Good Afternoon > > Researching the LARKINS name back from present day Nuneaton (Warwickshire) has led me to Old Warden/Biggleswade and to a George LARKINS born about 1806 in Biggleswade. > > > > >From the evidence of the censuses and IGI I have come to the conclusion that George must have been baptised 01/02/1806 to William and Martha LARKINS (nee HAYNES) who were married 25/02/1805 in Biggleswade. > > > > I believe that William LARKINS married again (presumably following the death of Martha) on 03/04/1809 to Elizabeth RHODES. This couple had children who included Elizabeth, baptised 1811, and William baptised 1812. The latter two were found in the 1861 census in Biggleswade and I have positively linked them to George's son James LARKINS (baptised 28/10/1838 in Biggleswade). > > > > I am now struggling with the birth/baptism of William LARKINS in the latter part of the 18th century as there appears to be alternative parents for him - either George and Elizabeth or Charles and Sarah. I have also found a possible William LARKINS in the 1851 census but, as yet, there is insufficient information to either rule him in or out as George LARKINS father. > > > > I am therefore wondering whether there might be someone else researching the LARKINS name who might have found out more than myself and who would be prepared to assist me in some way? > > > > Regards > > > > Richard > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would only be of interest to the individual you are replying to. > >

Good Afternoon Researching the LARKINS name back from present day Nuneaton (Warwickshire) has led me to Old Warden/Biggleswade and to a George LARKINS born about 1806 in Biggleswade. From the evidence of the censuses and IGI I have come to the conclusion that George must have been baptised 01/02/1806 to William and Martha LARKINS (nee HAYNES) who were married 25/02/1805 in Biggleswade. I believe that William LARKINS married again (presumably following the death of Martha) on 03/04/1809 to Elizabeth RHODES. This couple had children who included Elizabeth, baptised 1811, and William baptised 1812. The latter two were found in the 1861 census in Biggleswade and I have positively linked them to George's son James LARKINS (baptised 28/10/1838 in Biggleswade). I am now struggling with the birth/baptism of William LARKINS in the latter part of the 18th century as there appears to be alternative parents for him - either George and Elizabeth or Charles and Sarah. I have also found a possible William LARKINS in the 1851 census but, as yet, there is insufficient information to either rule him in or out as George LARKINS father. I am therefore wondering whether there might be someone else researching the LARKINS name who might have found out more than myself and who would be prepared to assist me in some way? Regards Richard

Thought listers, especially those from outside the UK, would find this excellent site useful. It guides you through all the information available on birth, marriage and death certificates. www.dixons.clara.co.uk/Certificates/indexbd.htm Liz

(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Brot Forwd 97/1/4 Aug 2d Pd Lofty 10/ Jos Newman 3/ 0/13/0 T Walker 2/ a child at Bodyd 3/ 0/5/0 S Sallaway 7/ Quince 2/ Hall 1/ 0/10/0 Jno Newman 5/ Rt Smith 1/6 0/6/6 4 Lofty 10/ Shelton's Child 14 1/4/0 Pd Sabey a Bill 0/16/5 ½ Edwd Do for the poor house 17/12/6 Thos Johnson 3/ S Sallaway 5/ 0/8/0 Griffin 2/6 Jos Newman 1/6 0/4/0 Bastefield 3/ Martin 2/ 0/5/0 Wid Day 2/ Sim Bass 3/ 0/5/0 Fulch 3/ Finding 2/ 0/5/0 Robinson 5/ Jona Rowlett 2/6 0/7/6 W Foot 1/ Wid Thody 4/ 0/5/0 Maddy 2/6 Quick 4/ Simpson 2/ 0/8/6 S Bolton 1/ Stokes 2/6 Sargent 2/6 0/6/0 Wid Barker 4/ Cranfield 1/6 0/5/6 Ma Brown 1/6 Eliz Day 2/ 0/3/6 Phe Darlow 4/ Edy Barker 2/ 0/6/0 Grace Briley 1/6 Amy Emery 1/ 0/2/6 Wid Lee 2/ Sar Day 5/ 0/7/0 Ma Oakley 1/6 Ma Clark 2/ 0/3/6 Cross 2/6 James Jarvis 1/ Thody's Child 2/ 0/5/6 Muffin 4/6 Wid Neal 3/ 0/7/6 Endersby 1/6 Shadbolt 6/ Quince 2/6 0/10/0 Mayes 2/ T Townsend 3/6 0/5/6 W Gardner 4/6 Wid Pak 4/ 0/8/6 Jno Medley 4/ W Barker 2/ 0/6/0 Braybrooks 2/6 Smith 3/6 0/6/0 Witherow's Child 3/ G Townsend 4/ 0/7/0 Mason 3/ Cullup 1/ Dawson 1/ 0/5/0 Wid Allerson 2/6 Jno Smith 2/6 0/5/0 G Walker 4/ Wid Ray 2/6 0/6/6 T Rowlett 5/ Wid Gardner 5/ 0/10/0 Wid Sumpter 3/ Gobby 3/ 0/6/0 Thornton 1/6 Ma Oakley 7/6 0/9/0 Wid Brown 4/ Nutty & Wid Briggs 10/ 0/14/0 Jno Newman 4/ L Attwood 3/ 0/7/0 Jno Oakley 1/ Sallaway Senr 2/6 0/3/6 Eliz Goodchild 1/ T Walker 2/ Hall 1/ 0/4/0 S Sallaway 1/6 Taylor 3/ 0/4/6 W James 2/ S Jarvis 1/ Wid Harper 6/ 0/9/0 Pd Bolton of Buckden 0/5/0 Thody's Child pd shoes & stockings 0/5/0 W Hicks 1/ Sallaway Jun 5/ 0/6/0 Jno Newman 0/5/0 (total) 130/10/9 ½

Liz It depends on what he did for a living etc...there are references to Bedfordshire DENYERs http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html If you can find him on 1881 census you will know his parents names & where they came from? cathy

Hi just joined the list Looking for information on Edgar Charles Denyer born Nottingham in 1881 married in Nottingham in 1904/5 to Florence. Beleived moved back down to Bedford area. Ancestors may have originated. Edgar died ion 1960 any help appreciated,. Liz

Hi Pat, I have the fiches of the Sandy parish registers, but unfortunately they only go up to 1812, so there is a gap before compulsory registration started in 1837. I think Bedford Archives will have the information, if anyone can look there for you. I will certainly look up anything you want prior to 1812. Jill

Pre 1837 marriage entries in parish registers did not show fathers' names (usually!) Have you checked the baptism index on the Cambs FHS website at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html ? Try Wareing rather than Warren - it might be worth further investigation! Regards David pat powell <slappyknight@ntlworld.com> a écrit : Hi Everyone, Does anyone have access to the marriage registers from Sandy Please? Also can anyone tell me if the register would have the grooms parents / fathers name on it? I'm desperate to find out who are the parents of my 2nd GGrandfather are. He was born in Gamblingay Cambs abt. 1809 and I have come to a brick wall there. His name was John Warren, he married Margaret Lyles on July 18th 1834 in Sandy (acc to LDS). With regards Pat ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta.

Hi Everyone, Does anyone have access to the marriage registers from Sandy Please? Also can anyone tell me if the register would have the grooms parents / fathers name on it? I'm desperate to find out who are the parents of my 2nd GGrandfather are. He was born in Gamblingay Cambs abt. 1809 and I have come to a brick wall there. His name was John Warren, he married Margaret Lyles on July 18th 1834 in Sandy (acc to LDS). With regards Pat

For those researching Wilstead ancestors, two more history booklets (9 &10 )have become available and these both include a large number of directory entries from Kellys and Pigots etc. All details can be found on www.wilsteadbook.freeuk.com

I am not sure if this is the right list for this area or not, if not let me know please. Looking for information on this John McDonald born about 1841 in Hartford, Huntingdonshire, England. Married Charlotte Flack in 1868 in Australia. Any connection or likely suspects? Thanks. Leona Jensen --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.

Hi Gary The parish register for Cardington shows no baptism for a John Simpson anywhere the date you quote. There was a a census taken in Cardington in 1 Jan 1782, but there was no Sarah Simpson, just the widowed mother of the Sarah mentioned by Eileen, and Sarah's four living siblings. I have non conformists born in Cardington in my tree of whose birth/baptism there is no trace in the parish register, but who do appear in the 1782 census. Where did you get the birth date from, and how sure are that it occurred in Cardington? Regards David Eileen Salmon <eileen_salmon@yahoo.co.nz> a écrit : Hi Gary the only one listed on the NBI is for a Sarah Simpson buried 20 April 1781 St Marys, Cardington, Beds Hope that helps? Eileen in New Zealand Gary and Donna Parker wrote: I am really stuck on my research at the moment, and I don't know where to go. I am trying to find a birth of a John Simpson (illegitimate) who was born to a Sarah Simpson on 02 Nov 1784. Sarah died sometime between 1784 and 1795. I wonder if anyone would be able to check if there is any records for the birth of John or the death of Sarah in Cardington, Bedfordshire. Gary Gary & Donna Parker PO Box 89 Albany Creek Qld 4035 Australia pH 07 3862 8767 garyndonna@hotmail.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ --------------------------------- Nouveau : téléphonez moins cher avec Yahoo! Messenger ! Découvez les tarifs exceptionnels pour appeler la France et l'international.Téléchargez la version beta.

Hi Gary the only one listed on the NBI is for a Sarah Simpson buried 20 April 1781 St Marys, Cardington, Beds Hope that helps? Eileen in New Zealand Gary and Donna Parker <garyndonna@optusnet.com.au> wrote: I am really stuck on my research at the moment, and I don't know where to go. I am trying to find a birth of a John Simpson (illegitimate) who was born to a Sarah Simpson on 02 Nov 1784. Sarah died sometime between 1784 and 1795. I wonder if anyone would be able to check if there is any records for the birth of John or the death of Sarah in Cardington, Bedfordshire. Gary Gary & Donna Parker PO Box 89 Albany Creek Qld 4035 Australia pH 07 3862 8767 garyndonna@hotmail.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I am really stuck on my research at the moment, and I don't know where to go. I am trying to find a birth of a John Simpson (illegitimate) who was born to a Sarah Simpson on 02 Nov 1784. Sarah died sometime between 1784 and 1795. I wonder if anyone would be able to check if there is any records for the birth of John or the death of Sarah in Cardington, Bedfordshire. Gary Gary & Donna Parker PO Box 89 Albany Creek Qld 4035 Australia pH 07 3862 8767 garyndonna@hotmail.com

Hi Jane, You have been a great help, I have to try and find where Elizabeth was born now as the 1851 census states she was born in Beds not sure of the county yet as it was sort of blacked out and unreadable. Many thanks Doreen ----- Original Message ----- From: <JaneLutton@aol.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] BENNETT HELP PLEASE > Doreen > Have found following down in 1941 census index for Wandsworth & Clapham > Brixton: > Charles Hine 45 > Elizabeth 45 > William 20 > Thomas 15 > Mary 11 > Isabella 9 > Henry 7 > Frederick 5 > John 4 > George 15mths > > Hope this maybe of some use. > Jane > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire at Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ > > >