Hi, My grandmother, Elizabeth GOODWIN, nee LUMMUS married Frederick HUDSON sometime between 1918 and 1948 probably in Luton but maybe in Westoning, her first husband having died. I wonder if anyone has a record of this marriage? Thanks, David

Patti, Following on to my previous email, I have been to the library and got infront of me a copy of the Henlow Parish Register. I have found the marriage entry for William Albon and Ann Handscombe. According to the records he was married to Ann 10/10/1772 and under the marriage it states he was born in CLIFTON. The Clifton Parish Records show a Baptism for William Albon on the 28/4/1751 son of Ben and Ann also 28/12/1752 Wiliam son of Benson & Rach. Where would you go on from here. Regards Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Salter" <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] ALBON Hi Suzanne William Albon's parents were William Albon and Mary - I dont have a marriage for them yet, and so far have found only one possibility in the Henlow register, William Albon bapt 26 sep 1689, which seems a bit old, unless he was married before ( I do have a marriage for him to Ann Arnold in 1720, so she could have died and he then married Mary) or there is another possibility, William Albon born 1719 in Arlesey, but at the moment there is no proof until I can find a marriage entry. The first born child I have found for William and Mary is Elizabeth Albon born 1739 at Henlow, so the 1719 Arlesey William could be in the running. I am slowly going through the whole register so if I find any new information will let you know. Cheers Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Compton" <suzanne@ot2.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] ALBON Thanks very much to everyone who helped me. Patti when you found William Albon in the Henlow Parish records, did it mention who his parents were and where they where from? If it did, please could you let me know. Thanks Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Salter" <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] ALBON Suzanne, there is also a John Albon baptised 2 Aug 1812 Arlesey, son of William Albon c.1767 Arlesey and Ann Pitts married 2 Jun 1792 Arlesey - in 1841 he was aged 29, living at White Horse Street, Arlesey with his wife Mary Johnson, children Abraham 8, James 6, Thomas 4, Joseph 2 and his widowed mother Ann Albon aged 68. James Albon 1784, his parents were William Albon baptised 23 Feb 1746 Henlow, and Ann Hanscombe baptised 20 Jan 1751 Clifton, married 10 Oct 1772 at Henlow according to the Parish Register. Hope that helps. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: RE: [BDF] ALBON Your John according to censuses was born 1811-13 at Stotfold. As Patti pointed out earlier there is no sign that James and Elizabeth had a son John in 1814, but they did have a John in 1823 in Arlesey. As I pointed out in the earlier thread on the other message board I believe that your John was the one born 1811 at Stotfold, the son of John Albon and Mary (Cook), so I think that James Albon from Clifton is a false trail anyway. I'll continue on your cross post on the message board Regards David Suzanne Compton <suzanne@ot2.co.uk> a écrit : Thanks David for all your help. I went to my library and confirmed that my James Albon baptism was 19th September 1784, Clifton. I also confirmed that he married Elizabeth Oliver in1804. Along the side of James Albon it said his parents were William Albon and Ann, but, it didn't say where they were from. I searched through the Clifton records and found four entries for a William's baptisms. One 1743, 1744, 1751 and 1752 There is another entry for 1791. I think this is the end of of tree. Can anyone help me out in any way. Regards Suzanne ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Enter Bedford in the box --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici. ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would only be of interest to the individual you are replying to.

Hi Patti, I'm totally confused. I've found a marriage for William Albon and Ann Arnold in Henlow 1772 which seems to tie up with the rest of the tree. I've also found a baptism for William Albon in 1689 son of William Albon & Rosamond Do you think this could be right. Regards Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Salter" <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] ALBON Hi Suzanne William Albon's parents were William Albon and Mary - I dont have a marriage for them yet, and so far have found only one possibility in the Henlow register, William Albon bapt 26 sep 1689, which seems a bit old, unless he was married before ( I do have a marriage for him to Ann Arnold in 1720, so she could have died and he then married Mary) or there is another possibility, William Albon born 1719 in Arlesey, but at the moment there is no proof until I can find a marriage entry. The first born child I have found for William and Mary is Elizabeth Albon born 1739 at Henlow, so the 1719 Arlesey William could be in the running. I am slowly going through the whole register so if I find any new information will let you know. Cheers Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzanne Compton" <suzanne@ot2.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] ALBON Thanks very much to everyone who helped me. Patti when you found William Albon in the Henlow Parish records, did it mention who his parents were and where they where from? If it did, please could you let me know. Thanks Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patti Salter" <ps015p6402@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] ALBON Suzanne, there is also a John Albon baptised 2 Aug 1812 Arlesey, son of William Albon c.1767 Arlesey and Ann Pitts married 2 Jun 1792 Arlesey - in 1841 he was aged 29, living at White Horse Street, Arlesey with his wife Mary Johnson, children Abraham 8, James 6, Thomas 4, Joseph 2 and his widowed mother Ann Albon aged 68. James Albon 1784, his parents were William Albon baptised 23 Feb 1746 Henlow, and Ann Hanscombe baptised 20 Jan 1751 Clifton, married 10 Oct 1772 at Henlow according to the Parish Register. Hope that helps. Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 7:30 AM Subject: RE: [BDF] ALBON Your John according to censuses was born 1811-13 at Stotfold. As Patti pointed out earlier there is no sign that James and Elizabeth had a son John in 1814, but they did have a John in 1823 in Arlesey. As I pointed out in the earlier thread on the other message board I believe that your John was the one born 1811 at Stotfold, the son of John Albon and Mary (Cook), so I think that James Albon from Clifton is a false trail anyway. I'll continue on your cross post on the message board Regards David Suzanne Compton <suzanne@ot2.co.uk> a écrit : Thanks David for all your help. I went to my library and confirmed that my James Albon baptism was 19th September 1784, Clifton. I also confirmed that he married Elizabeth Oliver in1804. Along the side of James Albon it said his parents were William Albon and Ann, but, it didn't say where they were from. I searched through the Clifton records and found four entries for a William's baptisms. One 1743, 1744, 1751 and 1752 There is another entry for 1791. I think this is the end of of tree. Can anyone help me out in any way. Regards Suzanne ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Enter Bedford in the box --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici. ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire at Rootsweb http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would only be of interest to the individual you are replying to.

This is a long shot but any help will be very much appreciated. I am searching for details of Daisy Effie Fletcher who married Bert (Albert or Herbert) Warner abt1923. Daisy was born in 1892 in Grantham and died 1956 in Bedford. The only info we have on Bert (Albert or Herbert) is that he died a few years after Daisy in 1956 and that he was a farmer or farm labourer in several places around Bedfordshire including Stagsden. Does anyone know if there is such an index that would cover farm labourers in Bedfordshire? Many Thanks Sally

Has any SKS any details of Charley STAPLETON born Dec qtr 1901 Oundle RD - ? Raunds? He is NOT the one died 1918 in France/Flanders. Thanks Bill Deverell

Parish register transcript doesn't help I'm afraid. Neither of the two Richards christened 1585-89 was buried as a child (the first Richard to be buried in H-C was in 1625, the son of Richard so was probably the one christened in 1623) The absence of any marriages for a Richard in Beds on the IGI makes it difficult but the number of christenings in H-C, and the timing, of children of Richard looks to me as though there were two Richards reproducing at this time. Equally there is no burial of a Thomas between 1623-26, although one or other of the Thomas's, son of one or other of the Richards, was buried on 27 Aug 1630. Permutate any one from four! Regards David Donna Bailey <donnabailey77@hotmail.com> a écrit : Hi everyone, Does anyone have any information about the SYER/SIER family of Husborne Crawley in the 1600s? Also, would anyone be able to check the Husborne Crawley PRs for me? I am trying to sort out if Thomas bpt.1623 and Thomas bpt.1626 were sons of the same Richard. And then if this Richard was bpt 1585 (son of Henry) or bpt.1689 (son of Nicholas). I am also looking for the marriages of these people. If anyone can help me with the family I would really appreciate it. All the best, Donna ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici.

Hi everyone, Does anyone have any information about the SYER/SIER family of Husborne Crawley in the 1600s? Also, would anyone be able to check the Husborne Crawley PRs for me? I am trying to sort out if Thomas bpt.1623 and Thomas bpt.1626 were sons of the same Richard. And then if this Richard was bpt 1585 (son of Henry) or bpt.1689 (son of Nicholas). I am also looking for the marriages of these people. If anyone can help me with the family I would really appreciate it. All the best, Donna

Hi Folks, Re: the distribution of the surname DYER, (or any other names) try this website. It is interesting to see how the various names have moved away from their original sources over the years. www.spatial-literacy.org/UCLnames/Surnames.aspx Jill

(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Brot Forward 39/5/0 Pd W Stokes Coll 0/2/6 Wid Sargant 2/6 Wid Barker 4/ 0/6/6 Mary Clark 2/ Cranfield 1/6 0/3/6 Eliz Day 2/ Pheby Darlow 4/ 0/6/0 Wid Wark 4/ Edy Barker 2/ 0/6/0 Grace Briley 1/6 E Goodchilds 1/ 0/2/6 W James 3/ Sara Jarvis 1/ 0/4/0 Sim Bass 3/ Wid Lee 2/ 0/5/0 Stony Emery 1/ Sar Day 4/ 0/5/0 Mary Oakley 1/6 Wid do 2/ 0/3/6 Jno Cunnington 0/3/4 Lofty 10/ t Chessham 2/ 0/12/0 S Salloway Junr 7/ Cullup 1/ 0/8/0 Wid Neal 3/ T Finding 2/ 0/5/0 Rt Quince 3/ Christs Cross 2/ 0/5/0 Jno Newman 5/ J Oakley 1/ 0/6/0 T Newman 4/ S Braybrooks 2/6 0/6/6 Geo Mayes 2/ J Fulch 3/ 0/5/0 Pd G Walker 4/ Shadbolt 5/ 0/9/0 Wid Thody 4/ T Dawson 1/ 0/5/0 Pd Geo Childs 1/ W Foot 1/ 0/2/0 James Jarvis 3/6 J Smith 2/6 0/6/0 Eliz Endersby 1/ J Markham 1 Month's Pay 6/ 0/7/0 Pd Rt Smith 4/ Valentine 2/ 0/6/0 Brit Brace 1/6 Bolton 2/ 0/3/6 F Hattwood 4/ Nutty Briggs 10/ 0/14/0 Wid Brown 4/ T Walker 3/ 0/7/0 Jos Newman 2/ Rains 7/6 0/9/6 G Townsend 6/ J Mason 3/6 0/9/6 Wid Allison 2/6 Ray 2/6 0/5/0 S Sallaway 2/6 Wid Gardner 5/ 0/7/6 Wid Gobby 3/ Wid Sumpter 3/ 0/6/0 Wid Thornton 1/6 James Masson a Fortnight's Pay 9/ 0/10/6 Card Forwd 49/8/0

In message <003b01c66c66$8e6cb230$e2290652@your447023ae6b>, "sue.hills" <sue.hills1@ntlworld.com> writes >I am researching my mothers family: >Plummers from Luton and Harpenden >Dears from Shillington c 1800 onwards >Warrens from Luton >I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. >Could anyone tell me what that means. Coprolite - manure which was dug out of pits in heathy areas and sold to farmers for dressing their fields. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

Thanks to everyone who replied. I knew someone would know about it. Sue Hills

Hi It means that he dug Coprolytes (fossilised dinosaur dung, and no, it's not a wind up!) which was used as fertiliser. Lots of it about in Beds and N Herts around Ashwell. Try http://www.cambridgeshirehistory.com/People/coproliteindustry.html Take care John "sue.hills" <sue.hills1@ntlworld.com> wrote: I am researching my mothers family: Plummers from Luton and Harpenden Dears from Shillington c 1800 onwards Warrens from Luton I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. Could anyone tell me what that means. Sue Hills ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html --------------------------------- Switch an email account to Yahoo! Mail, you could win FIFA World Cup tickets.

Copralite - black phosphatic nodules - used for making fertilizer& explosives. Some said it was fossilized dinosaur dung! there was a mining rush 1850s. see http://WWW.bbc.co.uk/cambridgeshire/natural_history/walk_through_time/06shtm l the 3 gaps are _ each time but cannot be seen due to the underlining Hope this helps Lauretta in Norfolk ----- Original Message ----- From: "sue.hills" <sue.hills1@ntlworld.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: [BDF] caprelite labourer > I am researching my mothers family: > Plummers from Luton and Harpenden > Dears from Shillington c 1800 onwards > Warrens from Luton > I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. > Could anyone tell me what that means. > Sue Hills > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: > http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/327 - Release Date: 28/04/06

Thanks Christine I'll certainly find out a bit more Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Rhoden" <christine.rhoden@ntlworld.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] caprelite labourer > Sue, > > Bedfordshire was a good source of Coprolite..the chances are this was what > your ancestor was engaged with...the spelling written down phonetically > probably. Coprolite ( colloquially known as dinosaur poo' was a big > industry > in certain parts of Bedfordshire. Pop coprolite into Google and it will > give > you lots of info. > > Christine > www.wilsteadbook.freeuk.com > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sue.hills" <sue.hills1@ntlworld.com> > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:58 PM > Subject: [BDF] caprelite labourer > > >> I am researching my mothers family: >> Plummers from Luton and Harpenden >> Dears from Shillington c 1800 onwards >> Warrens from Luton >> I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. >> Could anyone tell me what that means. >> Sue Hills >> >> >> ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >> Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html >> >> > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire Towns and Villages: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/placeindex.html > >

Sue, Bedfordshire was a good source of Coprolite..the chances are this was what your ancestor was engaged with...the spelling written down phonetically probably. Coprolite ( colloquially known as dinosaur poo' was a big industry in certain parts of Bedfordshire. Pop coprolite into Google and it will give you lots of info. Christine www.wilsteadbook.freeuk.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "sue.hills" <sue.hills1@ntlworld.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: [BDF] caprelite labourer > I am researching my mothers family: > Plummers from Luton and Harpenden > Dears from Shillington c 1800 onwards > Warrens from Luton > I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. > Could anyone tell me what that means. > Sue Hills > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: > http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html > >

I am researching my mothers family: Plummers from Luton and Harpenden Dears from Shillington c 1800 onwards Warrens from Luton I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. Could anyone tell me what that means. Sue Hills

Hello Brenda, I have a Dyer in my family from the Bedford area. Is Dyer a name that is common to this area. Ralph Harris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Hopkin" <brendahopkin@tiscali.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 4:13 AM Subject: [BDF] Unusual Christian names >I have a Bedfordhsire (Ampthill) ancestor called Tubal Cain Lumley Dyer. I >know that Tubal Cain is in the Bible, Genesis, and also important in >Masonic ceremonies but can anyone suggest how it might give clues to his >parentage round about 1750-60? > > Many thanks > > Brenda > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information > that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would > only be of interest to the individual you are replying to. >

For more information about coprolite mining try:The Cambridgeshire Coprolite Mining Rush by Richard Grove (Oleander Press). The Cambridge and County Folk Museum in Cambridge hold items relating to coprolite mining (including samples of coprolite, and copies of the above book for sale). If not on display, I seem to recall that arrangements can be made to see the material by appointment. (_info@folkmuseum.org.uk_ (mailto:info@folkmuseum.org.uk) ) Jane Hendry

In a message dated 30/04/2006 15:59:19 GMT Standard Time, sue.hills1@ntlworld.com writes: I have a census entry stating that someone was a Caprelite Labourer. Could anyone tell me what that means. The word is Coprolite, and the definition and some history (in Cambridgeshire, anyway) can be found at - _http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcam/coprolite.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~engcam/coprolite.htm) Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard in Cambridgeshire.

A very big thank you to David and Paul for helping me with my geography. Yes, David, your "crawley green infants" made me laugh too! From your answers, I will then assume that Crawley Green was part of, or very close to Luton. Martha Day on the IGI looks promising, but I will search on. Perhaps, she was born in Crawley Green, but for whatever reason, what christened in Harpenden. Thanks for confirming there is only one Lilley. Sometimes, it is very difficult researching at this distance! Very best wishes Mary Lou on a beautiful west coast canadian morning