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    1. Re: [BDF] IMPEY surname
    2. sj.hart
    3. Hello Helen, My first husband's aunt was called Impey. She lived in a village called Eversholt near Woburn. I'm pretty sure her son Donald Impey is still alive, but he may not be part of the family you are looking for. Do you have any more up to date information? I could then give my ex husband a ring and make a few enquiries for you. Best Wishes Sue Hart ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helen Gunnell" <nelliemay@westnet.com.au> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:18 AM Subject: [BDF] IMPEY surname > HI All, My name is Helen Gunnell & I am new to the list although was on it > some years ago. > > I am hoping to meet fellow family member to share & hopefully get some > help as well, please. > > My main interest is the following families. > > My 5X GGGrandparents > Thomas Evans mar to Sarah (Sibthorpe alias Butcher ) on 6/12/1764 at St > Mary's, Luton > & descendants. > > My 4X GGGrandparents > Martha Evans mar to Samuel Impey on 12 July 1795 St Mary's, Luton > & descendants. > > Would love to hear from anyone of these or related families. > > Regards Helen G > of Perth, Western Australia > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 - Release Date: 18/05/2006 > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > >

    05/24/2006 05:34:26
    1. IMPEY surname
    2. Helen Gunnell
    3. HI All, My name is Helen Gunnell & I am new to the list although was on it some years ago. I am hoping to meet fellow family member to share & hopefully get some help as well, please. My main interest is the following families. My 5X GGGrandparents Thomas Evans mar to Sarah (Sibthorpe alias Butcher ) on 6/12/1764 at St Mary's, Luton & descendants. My 4X GGGrandparents Martha Evans mar to Samuel Impey on 12 July 1795 St Mary's, Luton & descendants. Would love to hear from anyone of these or related families. Regards Helen G of Perth, Western Australia -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.6.1/343 - Release Date: 18/05/2006

    05/24/2006 06:18:06
    1. Re: [BDF] IMPEY surname
    2. Reg Harvey
    3. Helen, IMPEY is not a very common name but we do have one family with Bedford connections: Thomas IMPEY was a farm bailiff in Hertfordshire. His son Peter was born Well Head, Herts 1851. Peter married Martha Alice HINSBY 8 May 1873 in St.Neots Wesleyan Chapel. They had four children: Samuel James IMPEY b. May 1874 St.Neots Martha Alice IMPEY b. November 1875 Kentish Town Frank Peter IMPEY b. February 1878 Eaton Socon Sidney Thomas IMPEY b.November 1881 Kentish Town We believe that at some stage there was also a Biggleswade connection. Regards, Reg

    05/24/2006 05:33:06
    1. Endersby
    2. Scott Dorschner
    3. Hello everyone, I am looking for any information on John and Eleanor (Rowson) Endersby who might have lived in Bedford during the early to mid 1700s particularly their parents and any siblings names. I am trying to connect my line of Endersbys from the US with the line that is in Australia and finding John's parents and siblings will help in our search. Thank you, Scott Dorschner

    05/24/2006 04:36:09
    1. Re: [BDF] HIDE of Biggleswade.
    2. eric marshman
    3. Dear Eve, Thank you very much for your detailed reply to my posting. I very much appreciate your valuable time and opinion. We have visited Bedford, Huntingdon and London trying to find Richard Hyde's forebears. you have added to our information. We think Edward (son of the Lord Chancellor and brother of Anne, the Duchess of York) who predeceased his father, and was probably unmarried, may have fathered a child. We have no proof of this. A note, written by Wilma's forebear, in failing health, about 1820, and found among papers in Australia, referred to Catherine, Duchess of Queensbury, as Aunt Kitty. Catherine was a great granddaughter of Edward, Lord Chancellor. Richard Hyde, barber and Gent of Biggleswade would have been ten or more years older than Catherine. According to ?The Dictionary of Biography, read in London in 1999 Catherine was "quite a lady" (my words). The given name Chancellor was used for one of Richard's descendants. Several years ago you helped my husband with a query he had on anther list about Cold Bathfields Hospital/Gaol in London. He is fairly certain hefound his forebear in the gaol, in 1754, albeit with the shortened surname, Marsh. Kind regards, Wilma Marshman. > In message <000201c67bbf$6cdf47a0$0100a8c0@ERM>, eric marshman > <eric.marshman@hunterlink.net.au> writes . My descent is from Richard HYDE, Barber and Gent of Biggleswade, who >>married Mary COLLY at Biggleswade in 1704. I have not been able to find >>the >>birth of Richard. Family lore suggests a connection with a Hide family who >>married into the Royal family! I would be interested to hear from any >>listers who know the connection. >> > This would presumably be through the Hyde family. Edward Hyde was Lord > Chancellor (eventually) but while he was in Holland in the 1650s with >

    05/22/2006 02:54:48
    1. Re: [BDF] HIDE of Biggleswade.
    2. Eve McLaughlin
    3. In message <000201c67bbf$6cdf47a0$0100a8c0@ERM>, eric marshman <eric.marshman@hunterlink.net.au> writes >Further ot the postings of David and others about William HIDE born about >1780, I would agree with Mike Strange that here does not seem to be a >Bigglewade connection. > >However, David, should you disover a Bigglewade connection, please e-mail >me. My descent is from Richard HYDE, Barber and Gent of Biggleswade, who >married Mary COLLY at Biggleswade in 1704. I have not been able to find the >birth of Richard. Family lore suggests a connection with a Hide family who >married into the Royal family! I would be interested to hear from any >listers who know the connection. > This would presumably be through the Hyde family. Edward Hyde was Lord Chancellor (eventually) but while he was in Holland in the 1650s with the exiled royal princes, the younger, James (II), took advantage of Anne Hyde, Edward's daughter, and for once did the decent thing and married her -her father was a respectable lawyer, of an old minor gentry family, which probably made all the difference. The family were originally minor gentry in Cheshire, but the sons got around. Lawrence Hyde (who had an estate in Dorset) was the father of Henry Hyde, father of Sir Edward (who became Lord Clarendon and *his* sone Earl of Rochester); and of Sir Lawrence who was Attorney General to Anne of Denmark, wife of James I; and of Sir Nicholas, Chief Justice of England, who condemned the MPs who protested against the unconstiututional behaviour of Charles I in 1631. It sounds feasible that your Richard could be linked to this family, if correctly referred to as 'gentleman', at a time when they were distinctly picky about correct use of the term, could be descended from a younger son of this family. Barbers at the time were usually Barber- Surgeons (and belonged to the livery Company of that name).. It was quite usual for the younger sons of gentlemen to go into the professions (lawyer, doctor) or into the better end of trades, where the money could be made. The knowledge of a connection with Anne, Duchess of York (she died before her husband became king) could well have been preserved in the family. The male line of the Hyde Earls of Clarendon and Rochester failes and the heiress married a Villiers, who was granted the title of Earl of Clarendon. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

    05/21/2006 12:03:58
    1. Wilstead People
    2. Christine Rhoden
    3. If anyone is looking to pop some additional flesh on the old family history bones from the village of Wilstead you may like to know that a series of booklets on the parish containing a lot of genealogical information ( some from unique sources) has now been finished. Full details can be found on the website: www.wilsteadbook.freeuk.com with best wishes Christine

    05/21/2006 10:33:30
    1. Re: [BDF] HIDE of Biggleswade.
    2. try Beds archives search engine? http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html & e mail them here: archive@bedscc.gov.uk They may have the family history or other pertinent info cath

    05/21/2006 08:46:21
    1. Re: [BDF] Wilstead People
    2. Thanks, Christine I have been adding info to the Wilstead COOPER & SUGAR trees - at tribalpages - but it is s l o w going...like walking through treacle!. When, I started I was young & now I have grey hair...! Martin Edwards has all the info for the Wilstead War Memorial and it is on-line at his site.. I promised him I would photo the Luton War Memorial - but it was absolutely peeing - down in Luton! I will try again soon, next week if possible. All the best with everything & family etc. Keep up the good work cathy [Wlistead]

    05/21/2006 04:17:26
    1. Eaton Socon Overseers (of the Poor) Account book 1800, note 68
    2. Jim Bundy
    3. (Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Cont & Brot forwd 150/14/7 Novr 14 Pd the Constables Bill 2/3/6 Bolton & Harper Coll 1/4/0 Dishes & Trenchers 0/6/0 James Peak 2/6 Teat 7/ 0/9/6 Bout Thos Griffen a Shovel 0/3/6 Ann Crane of Bed pd 0/8/0 T Martin 1/ Ann Simpson 6/ 0/7/0 Finding 3/ 0/3/0 Town Total Disbts up to the 14th of Novr 155/19/1 1800 Joseph Farr's Disbursements from the 14th of Octr to 14th of Septr Octr 15 Pd Wid Goodman 4/ W Teat 3/ 0/7/0 Jos Curchly 5/ T Harvey 1/6 0/6/6 Mol Price 9/ J Jakes 8/6 0/17/6 W Wiles 2/ P Boss 3/ T Clark 2/ 0/7/0 W Seamer 1/ G Hopkins 2/ 0/3/0 W Dean 1/6 W Bolls 4/ 0/5/6 T Harvey 1/6 J Cooper 2/ 0/3/6 Spenr Minney 4/ P James 5/ 0/9/0 W Baxter 4/ T James 5/ 0/9/0 Wid Durden 2/6 T James 4/ 0/6/6 C Fisher 2/ Ann Goodliff 1/ 0/3/0 Jno Jones 4/ C Fisher 2/ 0/6/0 Ann Goodliff 1/ Jno James 1/ 0/2/0 Matt Gibby 4/9 J Squires 4/ 0/8/9 Eliz (blank) 2/6 W Ford 3/ 0/5/6 T Story 3/ Crow's Child 1/6 0/4/6 18 Jos Curchly 2/6 G Boss 4/6 0/7/0 G Boss 4/6 T Pindard 4/6 0/9/0 Card forwd 6/0/3

    05/21/2006 03:32:27
    1. HIDE of Biggleswade.
    2. eric marshman
    3. Further ot the postings of David and others about William HIDE born about 1780, I would agree with Mike Strange that here does not seem to be a Bigglewade connection. However, David, should you disover a Bigglewade connection, please e-mail me. My descent is from Richard HYDE, Barber and Gent of Biggleswade, who married Mary COLLY at Biggleswade in 1704. I have not been able to find the birth of Richard. Family lore suggests a connection with a Hide family who married into the Royal family! I would be interested to hear from any listers who know the connection. Wilma Marshman NORDS WHARF NSW

    05/19/2006 04:23:49
    1. Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808
    2. Gail Law
    3. Dear David and Audrey Thank you so much for these helpful ideas.I think the non conformist idea is right - as you say all Louisa and John's children were baptised in the Magdalen St Primitive methodist church in Cambidge and her second marriage was in the Zion chapel in Cambridge. Theis 2nd marriage in 1844 gave me her father's name and profession. It would be good to find evidence of James being Louisa's brother. I had found him on the 1841 but as you say no baptisms in Family Search IGI records to put them together. i have been thinking that the Lucy Carter baptised 31 Oct 1806 in Potton is probably Louisa, but again difficult to be sure. This would suggest her mother's name could be Elizabeth. Thanks again, Gail :-) >From: David <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> >Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808 >Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:05:11 +0200 (CEST) > >I wondered if James, the father of Louisa chr 1812 might have been your >Louisa's elder brother. James and Sarah produced a succession of children >in Potton, and they appear in the 1841 census in Potton. He gave his age >as 50 in 1841 but I cannot see his baptism either. If you're really stuck, >as you appear to be, it might be worthwhile trying to follow James on the >offchance that he is Louisa's brother - naming his daughter after his >sister? > > I see John and Louisa's children were all baptised in the primitive >methodist church in Cambridge. Possibly the Carters were also >non-conformist which is why their baptisms don't appear in Potton parish >register. > > Regards > > David > >AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com a écrit : Gail > >There is a 'Luisa' CARTER christened to a James & Sarah CARTER on the 11th >Oct 1812...could James be John?! >Have a look here again and see [also a marrige of John CARTER to Sarah >JARVIS >in 1792, Potton]: >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBedford.htm#P > >There is a Will for a James CARTER in National Archives...so it is just a >solicitors copy? >Will of James Carter of Potton , Bedfordshire, 29 November 1838 PROB >11/1902 > > > >Might be worth e - mailing Beds Archives to see if they have any Wills for >CARTER of Potton? > >'Pleasance' if it is a surname dererivation would be more likely a >Cambridgeshire name and go further back > >Older CARTERs [18th C] would probably pronounce their name something like >CARYER or something [dropping the 't' as people did] I think. > >cathy >Ps In Norfolk 1827, a John CARTER m Eliz PLEASANCE [but that is a LDS >entry] > > > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > >--------------------------------- > Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver >directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos >recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici. > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >For any updates our info about the status of this list go to >http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

    05/19/2006 03:07:15
    1. Sofrtware
    2. Judy Barham
    3. A lot of thank to Gareth, Patti and Peter my 2006 UK should be on its way. Judy from NZ Researching in the Biggleswade district of Bedfordshire PIPER, ISHERWOOD, MORGAN, JUDD, and COOPER

    05/19/2006 03:06:43
    1. Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808
    2. David
    3. I wondered if James, the father of Louisa chr 1812 might have been your Louisa's elder brother. James and Sarah produced a succession of children in Potton, and they appear in the 1841 census in Potton. He gave his age as 50 in 1841 but I cannot see his baptism either. If you're really stuck, as you appear to be, it might be worthwhile trying to follow James on the offchance that he is Louisa's brother - naming his daughter after his sister? I see John and Louisa's children were all baptised in the primitive methodist church in Cambridge. Possibly the Carters were also non-conformist which is why their baptisms don't appear in Potton parish register. Regards David AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com a écrit : Gail There is a 'Luisa' CARTER christened to a James & Sarah CARTER on the 11th Oct 1812...could James be John?! Have a look here again and see [also a marrige of John CARTER to Sarah JARVIS in 1792, Potton]: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBedford.htm#P There is a Will for a James CARTER in National Archives...so it is just a solicitors copy? Will of James Carter of Potton , Bedfordshire, 29 November 1838 PROB 11/1902 Might be worth e - mailing Beds Archives to see if they have any Wills for CARTER of Potton? 'Pleasance' if it is a surname dererivation would be more likely a Cambridgeshire name and go further back Older CARTERs [18th C] would probably pronounce their name something like CARYER or something [dropping the 't' as people did] I think. cathy Ps In Norfolk 1827, a John CARTER m Eliz PLEASANCE [but that is a LDS entry] ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Faites de Yahoo! votre page d'accueil sur le web pour retrouver directement vos services préférés : vérifiez vos nouveaux mails, lancez vos recherches et suivez l'actualité en temps réel. Cliquez ici.

    05/18/2006 04:05:11
    1. Re: [BDF] BFHS Journal
    2. Les Smith
    3. That's great Peter thanks a lot for the prompt response. Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Wood" <petwood@waitrose.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:37 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] BFHS Journal > Les, > > Ref: RG11 0784 49/62 > Aldershot, Hampshire > 95th Regiment > TREGENZA John - 25 - Bedford > > Hope this helps, > > Peter Wood > Flitwick, Bedfordshire > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > >

    05/18/2006 03:00:34
    1. Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808
    2. Gail Law
    3. census returns all give Potton Beds as the birthplace. When John Richardson died in 1843 Louisa went on to marry again and moved around a fair bit but as I say I know nothing of her ancestry. Gail >From: Dianne.Sutton@Tesco.Net >Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808 >Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:10:52 +0100 > >Gail, > >what does it say as her birthplace on the 1841, 1851, 1861, etc censuses? > >Her Pleasance given name may be a clue to an ancestors name too. > >D. >Gail Law wrote: > >>I am hoping to find out more about the above lady who is one of my >>ancestors. I know that she married in 1825 at St Botolph Cambridge to John >>Richardson who was a butcher. The marriage record shows that her father >>was John Carter, a tailor. That is all I know of her history. I think I >>have found everything I can re her life after the marriage. Whether she >>spent her early life in Potton or not I do not know so I'm hoping that the >>name and place may ring a bell with someone on the list. >>Thanks in advance if anyone can help. Best wishes from Gail. > > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is information >that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would only >be of interest to the individual you are replying to. >

    05/18/2006 11:09:07
    1. Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808
    2. Gail Law
    3. Thanks for looking. Census returns give Potton Beds as the birthplace but I guees she may not have been baptised there. Looks like this brick wall is not coming down yet! Gail >From: "Jill Blain" <jill.blain1@btopenworld.com> >Reply-To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808 >Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 14:19:12 +0100 > >Hi Gail, > >Have looked on the Bedfordshire Prime (list of names on parish registers) >and there are no Pleasances in Bedfordshire records. There are Pleasantines >and similar names in Potton, but not Pleasance. > >Jill >----- Original Message ----- >From: <Dianne.Sutton@Tesco.Net> >To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:10 AM >Subject: Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808 > > > > Gail, > > > > what does it say as her birthplace on the 1841, 1851, 1861, etc >censuses? > > > > Her Pleasance given name may be a clue to an ancestors name too. > > > > D. > > Gail Law wrote: > > > > > I am hoping to find out more about the above lady who is one of my > > > ancestors. I know that she married in 1825 at St Botolph Cambridge to > > > John Richardson who was a butcher. The marriage record shows that her > > > father was John Carter, a tailor. That is all I know of her history. I > > > think I have found everything I can re her life after the marriage. > > > Whether she spent her early life in Potton or not I do not know so I'm > > > hoping that the name and place may ring a bell with someone on the >list. > > > Thanks in advance if anyone can help. Best wishes from Gail. > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > When REPLYING to a message sent to the list decide if this is >information >that all the list members would like to know about or whether it would only >be of interest to the individual you are replying to. > > > > > > > >==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >Bedfordshire at Rootsweb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ >

    05/18/2006 11:01:35
    1. Re: [BDF] Louisa Pleasance CARTER b Potton 1808
    2. Gail There is a 'Luisa' CARTER christened to a James & Sarah CARTER on the 11th Oct 1812...could James be John?! Have a look here again and see [also a marrige of John CARTER to Sarah JARVIS in 1792, Potton]: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBedford.htm#P There is a Will for a James CARTER in National Archives...so it is just a solicitors copy? Will of James Carter of Potton , Bedfordshire, 29 November 1838 PROB 11/1902 Might be worth e - mailing Beds Archives to see if they have any Wills for CARTER of Potton? 'Pleasance' if it is a surname dererivation would be more likely a Cambridgeshire name and go further back Older CARTERs [18th C] would probably pronounce their name something like CARYER or something [dropping the 't' as people did] I think. cathy Ps In Norfolk 1827, a John CARTER m Eliz PLEASANCE [but that is a LDS entry]

    05/18/2006 08:54:22
    1. Software
    2. Judy Barham
    3. Hi I'm hoping some one can help me with Family Tree Maker. I'm using Version 11 and want to upgrade to 2006 UK edition. Do I have to buy the new edition or just the 2006 update. Judy from NZ Researching in the Biggleswade district of Bedfordshire PIPER, ISHERWOOD, MORGAN, JUDD, and COOPER

    05/18/2006 08:07:35
    1. Re: [BDF] Software
    2. Patti Salter
    3. Yes, you're right Gareth. What I meant is the single CD version without all the extras at £26.45 from www.TWRcomputing.co.uk Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth" <gareth@jechson.fsnet.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:25 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Software > Patti, > > Both of these web sites say that she needs the full programme and that > v.2006 can only be updated from version v.2005, not v.11 > > http://www.my-history.co.uk/acatalog/Family_Tree_Maker_2006.html#aFTMS6U > > http://www.zen69420.zen.co.uk/ftm.htm > > ...unless anybody else knows different. > > Gareth > > > On 18/05/2006 09:29:04, bedford-l@rootsweb.com wrote: >> Hi Judy >> All you need is the update. >> Patti >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Judy Barham" >> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 10:07 PM >> Subject: [BDF] Software >> >> >> > Hi I'm hoping some one can help me with Family Tree Maker. I'm using >> > Version 11 and want to upgrade to 2006 UK edition. >> > Do I have to buy the new edition or just the 2006 update. Judy from NZ >> > >> > Researching in the Biggleswade district of Bedfordshire PIPER, >> > ISHERWOOD, >> >> > MORGAN, JUDD, and COOPER >> > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: > http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html > >

    05/18/2006 05:02:00