Hi Elizabeth, Charles 5 Blunham 2 15 (folio) Edward 2 " 2 15 Elizabeth 14 Sandy 2 14 John 9 Blunham 2 14 Maria 12 " 2 14 Mary Ann 35 " 2 14 Mary Ann 4 " 2 15 Robert 1m " 2 15 Thomas 41 Old Warden 2 14 Thomas 18 Blunham 2 14 William 16 Northill 2 14 (not 100% positive about it being Northill as it's not clear). The actual census is in age order, which is why the youngest 4 are on a different page, whereas the index is alphabetical. Hope this is useful ! Jill

Hi Jill, Thankyou for your information, you mentioned that you could send me the index list for the 1851 census, that would be great, all information is helpful. Regarding Samuel Samuel ! he probably is a brother of Thomas Rainsdon Samuel, does anyone have any resources which can indicate how many children Edward Samuel and Mary Rainsdon from Old Warden had ? ( Their marriage is dated 21/7/1803 ) Thanks again, Kind regards, Elizabeth. -----Original Message----- From: Jill Blain [mailto:jill.blain1@btopenworld.com] Sent: 10 June 2006 23:58 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] The Samuel family Hi Elizabeth, I looked on the 1851 census index for Blunham to see if your Thomas' parents were still alive, but the eldest Samuel was Thomas himself at 41, but it says he was born in Old Warden. His wife was Mary Ann, aged 35 and there are possibly 9 children between 1month and 18 yrs. I'm saying possibly, because there is no knowing that they are all his family since it is only an index, not the actual census page. If you would like the details, just ask. There is also a Samuel Samuel (no kidding!) aged 33 in Sandy(Girtford) also born in Old Warden. Could he be a brother of Thomas? Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Keogh <dk014h1386@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [BDF] The Samuel family > Hello everyone, Is anyone researching the Samuel family from Blunham ? > I am particularly looking for Thomas Samuel's parents and some > clarification that he had two wives. Thomas was born around 1810 in > Blunham and was a carpenter. > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, Thankyou, Elizabeth. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hi David, thankyou for your information, Kind regards, Elizabeth. -----Original Message----- From: David [mailto:david11000carca@yahoo.fr] Sent: 11 June 2006 07:01 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE : Re: [BDF] The Samuel family The Old Warden PR transcript (and the IGI) has a Thomas Rainsdon Samuel baptised on 11 Feb 1810, son of Edward and Mary, labourer. Edward Samuel married Mary Rainsdon at Old Warden on 21 July 1803. Edward was of the parish of Southill and Mary otp. In 1841 his wife was Maria, 30, and there's a burial in Blunham of a Maria Samuell age 33 on 4 Aug 1843. There's also a burial in Blunham on 19 July 1843 of Selina Samuell, infant, so I imagine the two may well be connected. The IGI has a marriage in Sandy on 31 May 1830 between Thomas Samuel and Maria Powell, but I can't see a second marriage - as MaryAnn was said to be born in Blunham I'd have thought the marriage should have been there. But Blunham marriages only go up to 1846 on the IGI and although they have a 5 year old son in 1851 it's possible the marriage might have been later. Regards David Jill Blain <jill.blain1@btopenworld.com> a écrit : Hi Elizabeth, I looked on the 1851 census index for Blunham to see if your Thomas' parents were still alive, but the eldest Samuel was Thomas himself at 41, but it says he was born in Old Warden. His wife was Mary Ann, aged 35 and there are possibly 9 children between 1month and 18 yrs. I'm saying possibly, because there is no knowing that they are all his family since it is only an index, not the actual census page. If you would like the details, just ask. There is also a Samuel Samuel (no kidding!) aged 33 in Sandy(Girtford) also born in Old Warden. Could he be a brother of Thomas? Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Keogh To: Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [BDF] The Samuel family > Hello everyone, Is anyone researching the Samuel family from Blunham ? > I am particularly looking for Thomas Samuel's parents and some > clarification that he had two wives. Thomas was born around 1810 in > Blunham and was a carpenter. > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, Thankyou, Elizabeth. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités http://mail.yahoo.fr Yahoo! Mail ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe.

micas wrote: [...] > > Could you please tell me where the location of Potton Rd is in relation > to the following. > > Maulden Atkins James Wandon, Bucks HL Brittain > > Northill Brittain John Bedford HL Endersby & Self > > Felmersham Lilley John Kempstone HL Brittain, Rich > Wandon, Bucks mentioned for the James Atkins in Maulden above may be Wavendon - right on the Beds/Bucks county boundary.

Hello John My wife, Doris and I are staying a few days with Carole and Mike. We came from Melbourne where we live. First we met our daughter Phiona and partner Wayne at Brisbane where they live, before venturing further north to Maryborough. I had previously seen the reference to David as being a farmer, but not that he was a baker's man. Perhaps this was connected in some way to the bakery. Pollbook of Bedfordshire 1784 The page for Eyensbury is missing from this list. Could you please tell me where the location of Potton Rd is in relation to the following. Maulden Atkins James Wandon, Bucks HL Brittain Northill Brittain John Bedford HL Endersby & Self Felmersham Lilley John Kempstone HL Brittain, Rich Thank you so much for your help. Carole has been most helpful in teaching me so many new tricks. Regards from Carole and Graham. ----- Original Message ----- From: "john partridge" <john.partridge10@ntlworld.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Brittain Family > Hello Graham > > (although I thout it was Carole on this micas69 email address) > > anyway - from 1871 census - at Brittain's Farm Eynesbury, Hunts. > > David Brittain, b 1823 Potton, Cambs ! (but it should be Beds) ; Farmer > wife Fanny Brittain b 1823 St Neots Hunts > Ward Brittain, son, b 1852 St Neots (most likely this is Joseph) > Charles Brittain b 1860 Eynesbury, Hunts > Frederick Brittain b 1862 Eynesbury, Hunts > Sarah Ward, niece, b 1849 Graveley, Cambs > > from 1861 living at Brittain's Farm, Potton Road, Eynesbury > > David Brittain, age 39 born Potton, Beds; Farmer of 116 acres employing 5 > men & 2 boys > wife Fanny Brittain age 39 St Neots Hunts > daughter Mary Jane Brittain age 12 born St Neots > Joseph Ward Brittain, son, age 8 born St Neots > William Ward Brittain age 5 born Eynesbury, Hunts > Charles Ward Brittain age 1 born Eynesbury, Hunts > > best regards John > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "micas" <micas69@bigpond.net.au> > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:35 AM > Subject: [BDF] Brittain Family > > >> Greetings >> >> Seeking information on the ancestors of Charles Ward Brittain born 21st >> December 1859 in Eynesbury. >> We have his siblings as, >> Mary Jane Ward Brittain born circa 1848, >> Joseph Ward Brittain born circa 1852, >> Emily Ward Brittain born circa 1853, >> Fanny Ward Brittain born circa 1853, >> Frederick Ward Brittain born circa 1862. >> >> Emily and Fanny died at 2 years. >> >> The parents were David BRITTAIN born circa 1862 >> Fanny WARD born Circa 1823. >> >> Parents of David BRITTAIN were >> Thomas BRITTAIN, >> Mercy DANIEL. >> >> Charles Ward BRITTAIN was my grandfather who emigrated to Australia and >> died in Sydney in 1936. >> >> Any assistance to confirm the above would be appreciated. >> >> Thanking you in anticipation. >> >> Kind regards >> >> Graham >> iona9@optusnet.com.au >> >> >> >> ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== >> The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at >> http://www.bfhs.org.uk >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 09/06/2006 >> >> > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages > individually or want them individually) > > or > Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a > digest of multiple > messages or want this mode) > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

per LDS 0826481, Sandy, Bedfordshire, i show: Elizabeth Brittain, widow, buried 5Nov1783 Brittain Cooper, warrestor?, buried 2Sep1783 Mary, dau Brittain Cooper buried 4Aug1783 Britain, son of Britain and Ann Cooper baptised 18Jul1779 Lunnis, son of Britten and Ann Cooper baptised 6May1776, buried 22May1776 Mary, dau Brittain and Ann Cooper baptised 28Sep1774 Elizabeth, dau Britten and Ann Cooper baptised 28Mar1772 these are the only instances where the name Brittain crops up. I was not necessarily following this line, but hope it at least helps some. sandee > [Original Message] > From: micas <micas69@bigpond.net.au> > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: 6/11/2006 8:01:20 AM > Subject: [BDF] Brittain Family > > Greetings > > Seeking information on the ancestors of Charles Ward Brittain born 21st December 1859 in Eynesbury. > We have his siblings as, > Mary Jane Ward Brittain born circa 1848, > Joseph Ward Brittain born circa 1852, > Emily Ward Brittain born circa 1853, > Fanny Ward Brittain born circa 1853, > Frederick Ward Brittain born circa 1862. > > Emily and Fanny died at 2 years. > > The parents were David BRITTAIN born circa 1862 > Fanny WARD born Circa 1823. > > Parents of David BRITTAIN were > Thomas BRITTAIN, > Mercy DANIEL. > > Charles Ward BRITTAIN was my grandfather who emigrated to Australia and died in Sydney in 1936. > > Any assistance to confirm the above would be appreciated. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Kind regards > > Graham > iona9@optusnet.com.au > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk >

Greetings Seeking information on the ancestors of Charles Ward Brittain born 21st December 1859 in Eynesbury. We have his siblings as, Mary Jane Ward Brittain born circa 1848, Joseph Ward Brittain born circa 1852, Emily Ward Brittain born circa 1853, Fanny Ward Brittain born circa 1853, Frederick Ward Brittain born circa 1862. Emily and Fanny died at 2 years. The parents were David BRITTAIN born circa 1862 Fanny WARD born Circa 1823. Parents of David BRITTAIN were Thomas BRITTAIN, Mercy DANIEL. Charles Ward BRITTAIN was my grandfather who emigrated to Australia and died in Sydney in 1936. Any assistance to confirm the above would be appreciated. Thanking you in anticipation. Kind regards Graham iona9@optusnet.com.au

- next from 1851 living at Providence Row, St Neots David Brittain, head, age age 28 born Potton ; Bakers Man wife Fanny Brittain age 28 born St Neots ; Dress maker Mary J W Brittain age 2 born St Neots Eliza W Brittain age 6 months born St Neots Robert Brittain, brother, age 17 born Potton ;: Bakers man regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "micas" <micas69@bigpond.net.au> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: [BDF] Brittain Family > Greetings > > Seeking information on the ancestors of Charles Ward Brittain born 21st > December 1859 in Eynesbury. > We have his siblings as, > Mary Jane Ward Brittain born circa 1848, > Joseph Ward Brittain born circa 1852, > Emily Ward Brittain born circa 1853, > Fanny Ward Brittain born circa 1853, > Frederick Ward Brittain born circa 1862. > > Emily and Fanny died at 2 years. > > The parents were David BRITTAIN born circa 1862 > Fanny WARD born Circa 1823. > > Parents of David BRITTAIN were > Thomas BRITTAIN, > Mercy DANIEL. > > Charles Ward BRITTAIN was my grandfather who emigrated to Australia and > died in Sydney in 1936. > > Any assistance to confirm the above would be appreciated. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Kind regards > > Graham > iona9@optusnet.com.au > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 09/06/2006 > >

Hello Graham (although I thout it was Carole on this micas69 email address) anyway - from 1871 census - at Brittain's Farm Eynesbury, Hunts. David Brittain, b 1823 Potton, Cambs ! (but it should be Beds) ; Farmer wife Fanny Brittain b 1823 St Neots Hunts Ward Brittain, son, b 1852 St Neots (most likely this is Joseph) Charles Brittain b 1860 Eynesbury, Hunts Frederick Brittain b 1862 Eynesbury, Hunts Sarah Ward, niece, b 1849 Graveley, Cambs from 1861 living at Brittain's Farm, Potton Road, Eynesbury David Brittain, age 39 born Potton, Beds; Farmer of 116 acres employing 5 men & 2 boys wife Fanny Brittain age 39 St Neots Hunts daughter Mary Jane Brittain age 12 born St Neots Joseph Ward Brittain, son, age 8 born St Neots William Ward Brittain age 5 born Eynesbury, Hunts Charles Ward Brittain age 1 born Eynesbury, Hunts best regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "micas" <micas69@bigpond.net.au> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 11:35 AM Subject: [BDF] Brittain Family > Greetings > > Seeking information on the ancestors of Charles Ward Brittain born 21st > December 1859 in Eynesbury. > We have his siblings as, > Mary Jane Ward Brittain born circa 1848, > Joseph Ward Brittain born circa 1852, > Emily Ward Brittain born circa 1853, > Fanny Ward Brittain born circa 1853, > Frederick Ward Brittain born circa 1862. > > Emily and Fanny died at 2 years. > > The parents were David BRITTAIN born circa 1862 > Fanny WARD born Circa 1823. > > Parents of David BRITTAIN were > Thomas BRITTAIN, > Mercy DANIEL. > > Charles Ward BRITTAIN was my grandfather who emigrated to Australia and > died in Sydney in 1936. > > Any assistance to confirm the above would be appreciated. > > Thanking you in anticipation. > > Kind regards > > Graham > iona9@optusnet.com.au > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 09/06/2006 > >

(Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Brot Over 31/1/11 Novr 5 W Bolls 2/ T Pindard 9/ 0/11/0 W Chessham 9/ Jno Cooper 4/6 0/13/6 Spen Minney 7/6 Do 3/ 0/10/6 Jos Curchly 2/6 Do Sam Brady 4/6 0/7/0 Jno Squires 7/6 for Breeches 0/7/6 12 Ma Price 9/ Eliz Carter 2/6 0/11/6 W Teat 2/6 Do 4/ 0/6/6 Wid Goodman's Child 0/4/0 T Harvey 2/6 W Ford 3/ 0/5/6 Do 1/ Matt Gibby 4/ T Clark 2/ 0/7/0 G Boss 3/ W Wiles 2/ Seamer 1/ 0/6/0 G Hopkins 2/ Jno Squires 3/ 0/5/0 Jno Jakes 1/6 C Fisher 3/ 0/4/6 James Jones 7/6 Jno James 1/ 0/8/6 L James 5/ W Bolls 6/ 0/11/0 W Howten 6/ W Dean 1/6 0/7/6 T Garves 7/6 Jos Cursly 7/6 0/15/0 Crow's Child 1/6 S Emery 1/6 0/3/0 T Stacy 3/ James Jones 3/ 0/6/0 Spen Minney 4/ Jno Cooper 3/ 0/7/0 T Stacy 1/ W Ford 3/ 0/4/0 Wood 2/6 W Baxter 0/5/6 Woodld Total Disbt up to the 14 Of Novr 1800 39/11/5 Jno Bolton's Disbts for Wyboston from 14th of Octr to 14th of Novr 1800 Wd Croot Coll 0/10/0 Pd Baldock at dift times 1/0/0 Ratliff at Do 0/16/6 Goodchilds at Do 0/10/0 Dust at Do 0/15/0 Seamer's Family 3/11/0 Barker at dift times 1/3/6 Pd towards Barker's Rent 1/1/6 (total) 9/6/6 (Date) (Name/Item) (Amount) 1800 Contd & Brot Over 9/6/6 Pd Jno Howell at dift times 0/15/0 Jno Croot at Do 0/10/0 Sallaway at Do 0/16/6 Harrison at Do 1/1/6 Sim King at Do 0/6/0 Pd Tatman at Do 0/2/0 Pd Lovell at Do 1/1/0 Matt White at Do 0/6/0 Rutter at Do 0/3/0 For a new Wheel 0/3/0 Pd Fisher for dift times 1/13/0 Barham at Do 3/0/0 Pd Robinson at Do 1/6/0 Wid Longland at Do 0/5/0 Franks at Do 1/0/0 W Howell at Do 0/10/0 Thornton at Do 1/7/6 Pd Clark at Do 1/10/0 Wyboston Total Disbts up to the 14th of Novr 1800 28/11/6 Jno Morton for Town 155/19/1 Jos Farr Woodlds 30/11/5 Jno Baxter Wyboston 28/11/6 To Disbts of the three Overseers up to the 14th Novr 1800 Disbts 224/2/0 Disbts Brot Forwd 950/2/11 Total Disbts 1174/4/11

Hello Elizabeth, The SAMUEL family in Warden is Edward (Carpenter) 65, Mary 59, Samuel 20, Elizabeth 18, Benjamin 12, & possibly Anne 1. Thomas is married to Maria. Hope this helps. Glen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Keogh" <dk014h1386@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: The Samuel family > Hello everyone, Is anyone researching the Samuel family from Blunham ? > I am particularly looking for Thomas Samuel's parents and some > clarification that he had two wives. Thomas was born around 1810 in > Blunham and was a carpenter. > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, Thankyou, Elizabeth. > > ______________________________

The Old Warden PR transcript (and the IGI) has a Thomas Rainsdon Samuel baptised on 11 Feb 1810, son of Edward and Mary, labourer. Edward Samuel married Mary Rainsdon at Old Warden on 21 July 1803. Edward was of the parish of Southill and Mary otp. In 1841 his wife was Maria, 30, and there's a burial in Blunham of a Maria Samuell age 33 on 4 Aug 1843. There's also a burial in Blunham on 19 July 1843 of Selina Samuell, infant, so I imagine the two may well be connected. The IGI has a marriage in Sandy on 31 May 1830 between Thomas Samuel and Maria Powell, but I can't see a second marriage - as MaryAnn was said to be born in Blunham I'd have thought the marriage should have been there. But Blunham marriages only go up to 1846 on the IGI and although they have a 5 year old son in 1851 it's possible the marriage might have been later. Regards David Jill Blain <jill.blain1@btopenworld.com> a écrit : Hi Elizabeth, I looked on the 1851 census index for Blunham to see if your Thomas' parents were still alive, but the eldest Samuel was Thomas himself at 41, but it says he was born in Old Warden. His wife was Mary Ann, aged 35 and there are possibly 9 children between 1month and 18 yrs. I'm saying possibly, because there is no knowing that they are all his family since it is only an index, not the actual census page. If you would like the details, just ask. There is also a Samuel Samuel (no kidding!) aged 33 in Sandy(Girtford) also born in Old Warden. Could he be a brother of Thomas? Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Keogh To: Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [BDF] The Samuel family > Hello everyone, Is anyone researching the Samuel family from Blunham ? > I am particularly looking for Thomas Samuel's parents and some > clarification that he had two wives. Thomas was born around 1810 in > Blunham and was a carpenter. > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, Thankyou, Elizabeth. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? En finir avec le spam? Yahoo! Mail vous offre la meilleure protection possible contre les messages non sollicités http://mail.yahoo.fr Yahoo! Mail

Hi Elizabeth, I looked on the 1851 census index for Blunham to see if your Thomas' parents were still alive, but the eldest Samuel was Thomas himself at 41, but it says he was born in Old Warden. His wife was Mary Ann, aged 35 and there are possibly 9 children between 1month and 18 yrs. I'm saying possibly, because there is no knowing that they are all his family since it is only an index, not the actual census page. If you would like the details, just ask. There is also a Samuel Samuel (no kidding!) aged 33 in Sandy(Girtford) also born in Old Warden. Could he be a brother of Thomas? Jill ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Keogh <dk014h1386@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 10:39 PM Subject: [BDF] The Samuel family > Hello everyone, Is anyone researching the Samuel family from Blunham ? > I am particularly looking for Thomas Samuel's parents and some > clarification that he had two wives. Thomas was born around 1810 in > Blunham and was a carpenter. > Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, Thankyou, Elizabeth. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk > >

Hello everyone, Is anyone researching the Samuel family from Blunham ? I am particularly looking for Thomas Samuel's parents and some clarification that he had two wives. Thomas was born around 1810 in Blunham and was a carpenter. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated, Thankyou, Elizabeth.

Thanks Diana I hope it proves useful to someone! I'm hoping someone might add to it, as from so far away in New Zealand, I'm always on the lookout for something else for which to search! Not easy with humble Ag Labs! It was easier when they hit the Big Smoke (London) and bought businesses, went bankrupt and left Wills! Regards Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diana Mehew" <d.mehew@ntlworld.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 9:35 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Christenings > Hi Marlene > > I think this is a very useful one page list, and useful to keep at hand. > Although I've been researching for many years, it's a wake up reminder for > things I've overlooked! > > Regards > > Diana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Marlene Shipman > To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:20 AM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Christenings > > > Hi Cathy > MY LIST: (!!!) such as it is) > Birth/Baptism Photocopies of the Parish Register will sometimes show date > of > birth/ adddress and occupations of the parents. > Banns/Marriage Licence > Marriage cert/ write up in the local rag? > Death?Obituary ? > Burial - date & place > Headstone - photo? > Military Service Records/National Defence Muster Lists > Local Library Card Index? > Local History Society (who was their Lord & master?) (does their home > still > exist- [photo) ( their occcupations) > Local Museums - has anyone in the Family deposited letters/medals/ > postcards/photos etc? > Court Appearances > Inquests _ some people appear as Witnesses- not necessarily the deceased! > Newspaper Reports (not just obits but any events such as visit by > Royalty, > opening of a building /railway which they might have attended) All adds > to > your knowledge of the Family and their lives. > Emigration ( whenever they seem to disappear check Aust/Canada/ New > Zealand > particularly then America) > Wills ?Letters of Administration? > Workhouse?Asylum ?Records (Admission Register, Creed Register, Departure > Register) The Creed Registers are particularly useful - I found Dates of > Admission, Religion, Dates of Death, Place of Burial, Nearest Relative > and > how much tobacco allowed between certain dates! > Black Sheep Register _ (google for this) > Employers- I found it useful to search the censii for their employers. I > found that the address of one who had a Town House in London matched the > address on a marriage cert. Obviously the Master took his children's > nurse > and a virile male servant to London with him from Connington Hunts and > they > gave his address on the marriage cert. when they married. > I'm sure others will be able to add to the List - it is amazing what has > survived! > Hope this helps a little > Regards > Marlene > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com> > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:36 AM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Christenings > > > > > > > > Thanks for that, Sarah... > > > > If they were your ordianary 'midleling' Poor folk - sometimes, there is > > not > > even an 18th C Poor Law Certificate for them if they changed villages > > [Does > > anyone know the time scale when those Poor Law Certificates came into > use > > & when > > they finished?] > > > > There are other record bits which are easy to overlook - all males aged > > 17 - > > 55 were listed in 1803 on the National Defence Muster list ,,,the North > > Bedfordshire lists are published by the BHRS but those south of Bedford > > have not > > survived :0( > > I do not know if Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire & Hertfordshire have > > lists? > > > > No one in my family left a Will until well into the 20th C as far as I > > know - > > but I have found a house-clearance sale for my x gt grandad in the > > mid-19th C > > at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html > > > > Do people know of any other records that might be otherwise > over-looked? > > > > cathy > > > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > > To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to > > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > > Enter Bedford in the box > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates our info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Go to the Bedfordshire Lookup Exchange at: > http://freespace.virgin.net/m.harbach/bdf.html >

Hi Cathy MY LIST: (!!!) such as it is) Birth/Baptism Photocopies of the Parish Register will sometimes show date of birth/ adddress and occupations of the parents. Banns/Marriage Licence Marriage cert/ write up in the local rag? Death?Obituary ? Burial - date & place Headstone - photo? Military Service Records/National Defence Muster Lists Local Library Card Index? Local History Society (who was their Lord & master?) (does their home still exist- [photo) ( their occcupations) Local Museums - has anyone in the Family deposited letters/medals/ postcards/photos etc? Court Appearances Inquests _ some people appear as Witnesses- not necessarily the deceased! Newspaper Reports (not just obits but any events such as visit by Royalty, opening of a building /railway which they might have attended) All adds to your knowledge of the Family and their lives. Emigration ( whenever they seem to disappear check Aust/Canada/ New Zealand particularly then America) Wills ?Letters of Administration? Workhouse?Asylum ?Records (Admission Register, Creed Register, Departure Register) The Creed Registers are particularly useful - I found Dates of Admission, Religion, Dates of Death, Place of Burial, Nearest Relative and how much tobacco allowed between certain dates! Black Sheep Register _ (google for this) Employers- I found it useful to search the censii for their employers. I found that the address of one who had a Town House in London matched the address on a marriage cert. Obviously the Master took his children's nurse and a virile male servant to London with him from Connington Hunts and they gave his address on the marriage cert. when they married. I'm sure others will be able to add to the List - it is amazing what has survived! Hope this helps a little Regards Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Christenings > > > Thanks for that, Sarah... > > If they were your ordianary 'midleling' Poor folk - sometimes, there is > not > even an 18th C Poor Law Certificate for them if they changed villages > [Does > anyone know the time scale when those Poor Law Certificates came into use > & when > they finished?] > > There are other record bits which are easy to overlook - all males aged > 17 - > 55 were listed in 1803 on the National Defence Muster list ,,,the North > Bedfordshire lists are published by the BHRS but those south of Bedford > have not > survived :0( > I do not know if Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire & Hertfordshire have > lists? > > No one in my family left a Will until well into the 20th C as far as I > know - > but I have found a house-clearance sale for my x gt grandad in the > mid-19th C > at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html > > Do people know of any other records that might be otherwise over-looked? > > cathy > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Enter Bedford in the box >

Hi Marlene I think this is a very useful one page list, and useful to keep at hand. Although I've been researching for many years, it's a wake up reminder for things I've overlooked! Regards Diana ----- Original Message ----- From: Marlene Shipman To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 1:20 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Christenings Hi Cathy MY LIST: (!!!) such as it is) Birth/Baptism Photocopies of the Parish Register will sometimes show date of birth/ adddress and occupations of the parents. Banns/Marriage Licence Marriage cert/ write up in the local rag? Death?Obituary ? Burial - date & place Headstone - photo? Military Service Records/National Defence Muster Lists Local Library Card Index? Local History Society (who was their Lord & master?) (does their home still exist- [photo) ( their occcupations) Local Museums - has anyone in the Family deposited letters/medals/ postcards/photos etc? Court Appearances Inquests _ some people appear as Witnesses- not necessarily the deceased! Newspaper Reports (not just obits but any events such as visit by Royalty, opening of a building /railway which they might have attended) All adds to your knowledge of the Family and their lives. Emigration ( whenever they seem to disappear check Aust/Canada/ New Zealand particularly then America) Wills ?Letters of Administration? Workhouse?Asylum ?Records (Admission Register, Creed Register, Departure Register) The Creed Registers are particularly useful - I found Dates of Admission, Religion, Dates of Death, Place of Burial, Nearest Relative and how much tobacco allowed between certain dates! Black Sheep Register _ (google for this) Employers- I found it useful to search the censii for their employers. I found that the address of one who had a Town House in London matched the address on a marriage cert. Obviously the Master took his children's nurse and a virile male servant to London with him from Connington Hunts and they gave his address on the marriage cert. when they married. I'm sure others will be able to add to the List - it is amazing what has survived! Hope this helps a little Regards Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: <AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Christenings > > > Thanks for that, Sarah... > > If they were your ordianary 'midleling' Poor folk - sometimes, there is > not > even an 18th C Poor Law Certificate for them if they changed villages > [Does > anyone know the time scale when those Poor Law Certificates came into use > & when > they finished?] > > There are other record bits which are easy to overlook - all males aged > 17 - > 55 were listed in 1803 on the National Defence Muster list ,,,the North > Bedfordshire lists are published by the BHRS but those south of Bedford > have not > survived :0( > I do not know if Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire & Hertfordshire have > lists? > > No one in my family left a Will until well into the 20th C as far as I > know - > but I have found a house-clearance sale for my x gt grandad in the > mid-19th C > at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html > > Do people know of any other records that might be otherwise over-looked? > > cathy > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > To do a search of the Bedford Archives go to > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl > Enter Bedford in the box > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates our info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com

Hi Frustrated! I can sympathise with many of your frustrations. However, it is not true to assume that ages at christening won't be shown on the IGI. I have several ancestors christened at a church in Ashbourne, Derbyshire. The vicar there has, in many cases, included the child's date of birth which has also been recorded in the IGI. This has been very useful. So don't give up hope! Best of luck, Sarah -----Original Message----- From: AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com [mailto:AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com] Sent: 09 June 2006 15:24 To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] Christenings Listers We expect the babies to be christened within the first year of life...but they often are not. It seems Bedfordshire people often waited 'till the child was almost in their teens [18th C] before they were christened. I expect that had something to do with the Baptist etc influence in our County? So birth dates cannot be presumed from those christening dates as often kids were christened in 'batches' anyway. Sometimes the original PR will give more info - if the vicar adds an age into the record but that wont be shown on the IGI. If they survive until the census [and I can't get my head around 1841s rounding-up or rounding-down ... whatever was the mad Victorian thinking behind that scheme?] - that might help... Genealogy Frustrated of Wilstead!

Thanks for that, Sarah... If they were your ordianary 'midleling' Poor folk - sometimes, there is not even an 18th C Poor Law Certificate for them if they changed villages [Does anyone know the time scale when those Poor Law Certificates came into use & when they finished?] There are other record bits which are easy to overlook - all males aged 17 - 55 were listed in 1803 on the National Defence Muster list ,,,the North Bedfordshire lists are published by the BHRS but those south of Bedford have not survived :0( I do not know if Buckinghamshire, Cambridgeshire & Hertfordshire have lists? No one in my family left a Will until well into the 20th C as far as I know - but I have found a house-clearance sale for my x gt grandad in the mid-19th C at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html Do people know of any other records that might be otherwise over-looked? cathy

I am interested in the names Leybourne, Leyburn, Laybourne, Lilburn, etc. I may be of assistance to anyone looking for these names. MWRD440@aol.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <BEDFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <BEDFORD-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: BEDFORD-D Digest V06 #79