Breast feeding is not the contraceptive it is often made out to be. One of my university classmates had her first two children ten months apart, and became pregnant while breast feeding her elder son. Mind you, the younger son was premature, but still, Jen became pregnant while breast feeding. ----- Original Message ----- From: AudreyJoyceMcC@aol.com To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] How many children can one woman have? Eeek, it does not bare thinking about - but it does seem that if having all these children did not kill you then you would have to wait for old age & the 'Grim Reaper'... Even when I was a child there were a couple of women who had 10 + babies in the village and survived into old age...it seems to be pure chance.. Your gal seems to be one plucky woman, Gay? But I think the older kids would have learned how to look after the younger ones & so it would have, if anything, become easier for Mother re child care? Generally speaking, breast-feeding would delay the next conception which is why children are normally born two years apart, I understand? I think the Guiness book of Records has recorded a woman having over 40 children in France or Russia or somewhere - but am not sure about that? It is just something I think I heard about... cathy ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe.

Hi all, Thought I'd just add my relative to this. She had 23 children all survived birth but only 9 survived to adulthood. The mother only lived to age 60 but the children who survived to adulthood were over 75 when they died and one was 101 another 99 and 10 months. Sue

Hi All I just want to join in although my grandmother was born in Devon. She had 22 pregnancies, 16 live births 12 of whom lived to maturity. There was only one set of twins, one of whom died aged 18 months. The other three deaths were small babies. My mother, one of the younger members of the family, always referred to her eldest sister as "My sister,Miss Jones, is coming to stay", when talking to her friends. Grandmother died at the age of 54 having had her first child at the age of 19. She was a dressmaker and made a lot of their clothes herself. Mum said washing day was a full day with the copper boiler blazing most of the day. I always read all you pieces Gale! Best wishes Anne in Markyate researching MEAD, WRIGHT, STEVENS, HOBBS, WALKER, POTTON, GINGER, GOODWIN, HOPKINS, BONE AND FLITTON to mention a few!!

Eeek, it does not bare thinking about - but it does seem that if having all these children did not kill you then you would have to wait for old age & the 'Grim Reaper'... Even when I was a child there were a couple of women who had 10 + babies in the village and survived into old age...it seems to be pure chance.. Your gal seems to be one plucky woman, Gay? But I think the older kids would have learned how to look after the younger ones & so it would have, if anything, become easier for Mother re child care? Generally speaking, breast-feeding would delay the next conception which is why children are normally born two years apart, I understand? I think the Guiness book of Records has recorded a woman having over 40 children in France or Russia or somewhere - but am not sure about that? It is just something I think I heard about... cathy

Hi Josie: My AOL just told me they had sent my e-mail to you and i wasn't finished! There are a lot of Hookers in the index so maybe you could be more specific about what you are looking for and I will check it out for you. Regards, Dorothy in Wisconsin, USA

Hi Josie: I have the printed records for Caddington and the entry reads as follows: JL23 Thos Hooker, p.man

Josie I have the microfiche for Caddington PR's. If you don't mind waiting a little while, I will have a look through them as soon as I have finished the other little job I am in the middle of. cheers Linda (Perth West Oz) BILLINGTON - Belgrave, Leicestershire BROWN - Middlesex, England CONNOR - King's County, Ireland DERRY - Belgrave, Leicestershire GARNER - Wasperton, Warwickshire GODDARD - Kenilworth & Coventry,Warwickshire GOODWIN - Caddington, Bedfordshire HARRIS - Belgrave, Leicestershire KELLY - Armagh, Co. Armagh, Ireland LUMLEY - Belgrave, Leicestershire LYNCH - Co.Cork, Ireland MARKS - Kenilworth, Warwickshire MURPHY - Queenstown, Co. Cork, Ireland O'BRIEN - Co. Clare, Ireland SMITH - Belgrave, Leicestershire WILLIS - London, England -----Original Message----- From: Rod & Josie Butterfield [mailto:rodjosie@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Thursday, 22 June 2006 11:00 AM To: BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BDF] Caddington Parish Records. Hi, Does anyone have the Caddington Parish Records,I am looking for more details on a burial of a Thomas HOOKER in Caddington 23 July 1798. Plus any other details on the Hooker Family from this area. thanks and regards Josie Goolwa SA 5214 Australia Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== Bedfordshire Towns and Villages: http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/placeindex.html

Hi, Does anyone have the Caddington Parish Records,I am looking for more details on a burial of a Thomas HOOKER in Caddington 23 July 1798. Plus any other details on the Hooker Family from this area. thanks and regards Josie Goolwa SA 5214 Australia Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com

Hello Listers Does anyone recognise this WHITE/WHYTE family please?? Eugene WHYTE married Edna Currin at South Africa He had a sister: Alice Rose Emily WHITE B 21 Sep 1884 Luton, Bedfordshire She married Thomas Charles Fryer - born 2 June 1875 at Oakham, Rutland They had a son: Aubrey Fryer born 1925?? (Possibly in Sth Africa) They lived in 8 Gladstone Street, Port Elizabeth, Sth Africa during the early 1930s Thomas Charles Fryer was employed by Marshall's, Port Elizabeth, a large department store which later became Garlicks Alice Rose Emily WHITE Died 2 Jul 1968 South End Cemetery Sth Africa Alice's WILL held at Office of the Master of the Supreme Court in Grahamstown, Sth Africa Thomas Charles Fryer - Dd. 26 October 1950, South Africa. Thank you all and I trust this is not an imposition on your time. Kind regards from Maree S. Gordon, Matamata, N.Z.

Maree That is very interesting...do you know much about their parents? See the 1891 census http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl I see there is a 7 year old Alice WHITE but she has no brother called Eugene...her parents were William & Mary Ann [both aged 30] cathy

Hello Colin, I don't know if you are aware, but Maulden has a Maulden History Society who may be able to help you out with photographs. Maulden did produce a book with old photographs, but I don't recall seeing one of the choir. The person to contact is Rosie Coyle on 01525 405732 Good luck Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: "colin dawson" <4colin@fsmail.net> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 11:56 AM Subject: [BDF] 1940's Photograph > Good Morning, > I am searching for a Photograph of either the St.Mary's Church Choir in > Maulden, Beds or the > Maulden Choral Society in the late 1940's. > If anyone can help me I would very much like to hear from you. > P.S. Names of the persons on the photograph would be helpful. > > Colin Dawson > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages > individually or want them individually) > > or > > Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a > digest of multiple > messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. > >

Good Morning, I am searching for a Photograph of either the St.Mary's Church Choir in Maulden, Beds or the Maulden Choral Society in the late 1940's. If anyone can help me I would very much like to hear from you. P.S. Names of the persons on the photograph would be helpful. Colin Dawson

Don't know if this helps but when I got the LDS film from Riseley it contains a note that 1789- 1790 Baptisms were missing - just the crucial time I wanted! It wasn't the end of a Register but there was a loose note found recording a baptism apparently. I suspect that sometimes notes were made and later transcribed into the Register! And occasionally they were lost- which reminds what happened to my shopping list...? Very frustrating! Marlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 9:58 PM Subject: [BDF] ADAMS Family - MAULDEN area c1780 > Can anyone identify this family please. > > > Descendants of William ADAMS > > > > 1 William ADAMS b: 1749 d: 1833 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > .. +Hannah b: 1760 d: 1834 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > ...... 2 Anne ADAMS b: 1788 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > ...... 2 Richard ADAMS b: 1792 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > ...... 2 [1] William ADAMS b: 1794 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG d: in after 1851 > Census > > .......... +Lucy SHARP b: 1794 in MAULDEN. BEDS. UK d: 1834 in MAULDEN. > BEDS. ENG > > ...... *2nd Wife of [1] William ADAMS: > > .......... +Sarah UPTON b: 1790 > > ...... 2 John ADAMS b: 14 May 1797 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > ...... 2 Elizabeth ADAMS b: 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > ...... 2 Hannah ADAMS b: 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG d: 01 Sep 1799 > > ...... 2 Fanny ADAMS b: 1801 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > ...... 2 Joseph ADAMS b: 1807 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG > > > > I can't find a birth for William Adams around 1749 or a marriage to > Hannah (?). > > All eight children are on the same batch between 1788 - 1807. If his > birthdate and first child are correct this would mean him marrying at age > 39. So it could be his second marriage. > > There is a earlier family of William & Elizabeth in Maulden around > 1770. Did Elizabeth die ? > > It seems that there are possibly gaps in the Maulden marriage records > around this time. Perhaps some pages around 1760-1780 were destroyed or > indecipherable. I noticed a few odds and sods from Maulden appearing on a > variety of adjustment batches with A prefixes and including marriages from > a number of miscellaneous parishes. > > Any help very much appreciated. > > Peter in Sydney > > > > > > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates or info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com >

Can anyone identify this family please. Descendants of William ADAMS 1 William ADAMS b: 1749 d: 1833 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG .. +Hannah b: 1760 d: 1834 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Anne ADAMS b: 1788 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Richard ADAMS b: 1792 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 [1] William ADAMS b: 1794 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG d: in after 1851 Census .......... +Lucy SHARP b: 1794 in MAULDEN. BEDS. UK d: 1834 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... *2nd Wife of [1] William ADAMS: .......... +Sarah UPTON b: 1790 ...... 2 John ADAMS b: 14 May 1797 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Elizabeth ADAMS b: 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Hannah ADAMS b: 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG d: 01 Sep 1799 ...... 2 Fanny ADAMS b: 1801 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Joseph ADAMS b: 1807 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG I can't find a birth for William Adams around 1749 or a marriage to Hannah (?). All eight children are on the same batch between 1788 - 1807. If his birthdate and first child are correct this would mean him marrying at age 39. So it could be his second marriage. There is a earlier family of William & Elizabeth in Maulden around 1770. Did Elizabeth die ? It seems that there are possibly gaps in the Maulden marriage records around this time. Perhaps some pages around 1760-1780 were destroyed or indecipherable. I noticed a few odds and sods from Maulden appearing on a variety of adjustment batches with A prefixes and including marriages from a number of miscellaneous parishes. Any help very much appreciated. Peter in Sydney

Does anyone recognise this family? Descendants of Francis COLEMAN 1 Francis COLEMAN b: Abt. 1765 .. +Sarah COOK b: Abt. 1770 ...... 2 [1] Sarah COLEMAN b: 1789 in MAULDEN. BEDS .......... +Christopher (Snr) COX b: 1792 ...... *2nd Husband of [1] Sarah COLEMAN: .......... +James SMITH b: 1785 ...... 2 John COLEMAN b: 18 Nov 1792 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Thomas COLEMAN b: 06 Sep 1795 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Mary COLEMAN b: Mar 1797 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Francis COLEMAN b: Jun 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 William COLEMAN b: 23 Aug 1801 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 James COLEMAN b: 08 May 1803 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Joseph COLEMAN b: 15 Sep 1805 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Anne COLEMAN b: 24 Aug 1806 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Phoebe COLEMAN b: 17 Apr 1808 in MAULDEN. BEDS ...... 2 Charlotte COLEMAN b: 22 Jul 1810 in MAULDEN. BEDS There is a 1790 marriage in Maulden for Francis Coleman + Sarah Cook, and baptism records for children born after that date. But there is no Baptism for Sarah born 1789, the year before the marriage. Sarah Coleman c1789 married my ggg grandfather Christopher Cox in Maulden. Her father was shown as Francis. I am wondering if :- (a) Sarah was born from a previous relationship (b) Francis is the father, but she wasn't baptised because it was out of wedlock (c) I have the wrong family altogether Any help appreciated Peter in Sydney

Can SKS help me..Does anyone have the BDF Marriages Index, if so could you look up and see when and who Thomas HOOKER married,around the 1760's and 1780s.Possibly Sarah ???? thanks and regards Josie Goolwa SA 5214 Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com

Hi Peter Can't answer your main question I'm afraid, but there are the following Adams burials in Maulden 4 Aug 1776 Elizabeth 10 Dec 1783 Elizabeth 7 Jan 1784 Elizabeth 6 Nov 1784 William No ages are shown so reference to the parish register is the only way to identify them. Looking at the film notes of the Maulden BTs on the LDS site there are quite a few gaps, but you would need to check the film of the PR to see if there were gaps there also. The best bet is to look at the FG Emmison transcript also available on microfilm at the LDS where it's immediately apparent if there are gaps (and Emmison also draws attention to gaps). The transcript melds the PR and the BT and it's from this that the "P" batch on the IGI is extracted. (the "A" batches are not adjustment batches - these are just effectively member submissions, so should be viewed with the usual caveats and a large bucket of salt) Regards David Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : Can anyone identify this family please. Descendants of William ADAMS 1 William ADAMS b: 1749 d: 1833 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG .. +Hannah b: 1760 d: 1834 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Anne ADAMS b: 1788 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Richard ADAMS b: 1792 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 [1] William ADAMS b: 1794 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG d: in after 1851 Census .......... +Lucy SHARP b: 1794 in MAULDEN. BEDS. UK d: 1834 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... *2nd Wife of [1] William ADAMS: .......... +Sarah UPTON b: 1790 ...... 2 John ADAMS b: 14 May 1797 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Elizabeth ADAMS b: 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Hannah ADAMS b: 1799 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG d: 01 Sep 1799 ...... 2 Fanny ADAMS b: 1801 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG ...... 2 Joseph ADAMS b: 1807 in MAULDEN. BEDS. ENG I can't find a birth for William Adams around 1749 or a marriage to Hannah (?). All eight children are on the same batch between 1788 - 1807. If his birthdate and first child are correct this would mean him marrying at age 39. So it could be his second marriage. There is a earlier family of William & Elizabeth in Maulden around 1770. Did Elizabeth die ? It seems that there are possibly gaps in the Maulden marriage records around this time. Perhaps some pages around 1760-1780 were destroyed or indecipherable. I noticed a few odds and sods from Maulden appearing on a variety of adjustment batches with A prefixes and including marriages from a number of miscellaneous parishes. Any help very much appreciated. Peter in Sydney ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== For any updates or info about the status of this list go to http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire.

Virtually all of Beds pre 1812 has been extracted onto the IGI, which you can search on www.familysearch.org Regards David Rod & Josie Butterfield <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : Can SKS help me..Does anyone have the BDF Marriages Index, if so could you look up and see when and who Thomas HOOKER married,around the 1760's and 1780s.Possibly Sarah ???? thanks and regards Josie Goolwa SA 5214 Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving the messages individually or want them individually) or Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a digest of multiple messages or want this mode) In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe or unsubscribe. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire.

Gus...I fell sorry for her,but how do I check it out ??? if there are 2 of Thomas's or 2 marriages..Can you help. Thanks and regards Josie Goolwa SA 5214 Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gus Tysoe" <gustysoe@tiscali.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Hooker Family from Caddington > Hi Josie, > > *IF* all the dates you quote are correct, then I suspect you have two > generations of of "Thomas HOOKER and Sarahs" here - or that Thomas married > twice, and to a Sarah each time... > > 39 years of continuous child-bearing seems over-long - even if she started > as early as the this-week-reported 11-year-old. > > Gus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rod & Josie Butterfield" <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> > To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 2:43 AM > Subject: [BDF] Hooker Family from Caddington > > > Hi I am trying to track down a Thomas Hooker b abt 1740 ,caddington I > presume,he married Sarah unknown but between them they had their 1 child > Thomas 25 dec 1760 and I think their last of abt 16 children,Susan in > 1799. > My connection is their child Zechariah Hooker's granddaughter Mary Anne > hooker married William Butterfield in 1847. > So if anyone can help with Thomas and Sarah back in the 1740's it would be > great. > thanks and regards > Josie > Australia > > Goolwa SA 5214 > Phone: 08 8555 3887 > Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire at Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE send a message to: > Bedford-L-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in mail mode i.e. receiving > the messages > individually or want them individually) > > or > > Bedford-D-request@rootsweb.com (if you are in digest mode i.e. receiving a > digest of multiple > messages or want this mode) > > In the BODY of the message (not the subject line) type the word subscribe > or unsubscribe. >

Thanks..that's what I thought,so I might go with that date and couple regards Josie , Goolwa SA 5214 Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 3:15 PM Subject: RE : [BDF] Hooker Family from Caddington > Caddington is an odd parish, partly in Beds, but also part in Herts. > Whilst Caddington PR has been extracted onto the IGI there's nothing > showing anywhere in Beds for Thomas, so you also need to check Herts. > > There's a marriage in Flamstead (a couple of miles from Caddington) on 22 > Sept 1760 between Thomas Hooker and Sarah Kilby, which looks just about > right for a first child baptised in Dec 1760. > > Regards > > David > Rod & Josie Butterfield <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : Hi I am trying > to track down a Thomas Hooker b abt 1740 ,caddington I presume,he married > Sarah unknown but between them they had their 1 child Thomas 25 dec 1760 > and I think their last of abt 16 children,Susan in 1799. > My connection is their child Zechariah Hooker's granddaughter Mary Anne > hooker married William Butterfield in 1847. > So if anyone can help with Thomas and Sarah back in the 1740's it would be > great. > thanks and regards > Josie > Australia > > Goolwa SA 5214 > Phone: 08 8555 3887 > Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire at Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son > interface révolutionnaire. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire Towns and Villages: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/placeindex.html >