Listers, There are three John Richardson + Elizabeth marriages in Maulden. (A) 1804 John RICHARDSON m ELIZABETH HAINS ( Identified children George 1804, Thomas 1806 and Samuel 1808) (B) 1811 John RICHARDSON m ELIZABETH ADDINGTON ( Identified Samuel b1812) (C) 1820 John RICHARDSON m ELIZABETH NORTHWOOD Between the three couples there were 17 other children born before 1841. Would SKS please be able to look at JOHN RICHARDSON families in Maulden in 1841 and list out the household and ages. Peter

Hi List, I am looking for a lost cousin who was last heard heard of in the Milton Keynes / Bedford area, is anybody able to look at Electoral Roll / Phone Book for this area for a MAY AVERY, has a daughter ROBYN M. who may of course be married by now. There is a Quaker connection as May worked in the Quaker Library in London 1950's - 1970 when she was married. Any help in finding this lady would be great. Many thanks Daphne NEW ZEALAND.

Hi Peter I think you need to check the microfilm for post 1812 Crawley entries in Haynes. The IGI seems to have big gaps in the marriage extractions, and I suspect the same with baptisms, which are split between J and K batches. Regards David Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : Listers, Can someone help with the parents of William Crawley born about 1835 (possibly at Haynes)? In 1861 Census, unmarried William is shown at Haynes with mother Sarah age 78 born Maulden and Charlotte Cox age 17, grandaughter. I can't find the birth of William on IGI or FreeBMD nor a CRAWLEY + COX marriage around the time of his birth. I believe this Sarah could possibly be my ggg grandmother, Sarah Cox (nee Coleman) c1785. Her first husband was Christopher Cox of Maulden. They married in 1810 and had 11 children. Christopher Cox was sentenced to transportation in 1831 after his son brought home a stolen turkey. I believe he died on the prison hulks and, unlike his son, can find no record of arrival in Australia. Sarah would be around mid 40's when her husband died. I am assuming that she re-married Mr Crawley around 1834. Charlotte COX appears to be the daughter of Sarah's son Francis COX. If he can't be found on parish records, perhaps somebody would be good enough to try and find William Crawley b1835 in 1841 or 1851 Census and find his father and anyone else living in the household. Many thanks Peter in Sydney ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at http://www.bfhs.org.uk --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire.

Listers, Can someone help with the parents of William Crawley born about 1835 (possibly at Haynes)? In 1861 Census, unmarried William is shown at Haynes with mother Sarah age 78 born Maulden and Charlotte Cox age 17, grandaughter. I can't find the birth of William on IGI or FreeBMD nor a CRAWLEY + COX marriage around the time of his birth. I believe this Sarah could possibly be my ggg grandmother, Sarah Cox (nee Coleman) c1785. Her first husband was Christopher Cox of Maulden. They married in 1810 and had 11 children. Christopher Cox was sentenced to transportation in 1831 after his son brought home a stolen turkey. I believe he died on the prison hulks and, unlike his son, can find no record of arrival in Australia. Sarah would be around mid 40's when her husband died. I am assuming that she re-married Mr Crawley around 1834. Charlotte COX appears to be the daughter of Sarah's son Francis COX. If he can't be found on parish records, perhaps somebody would be good enough to try and find William Crawley b1835 in 1841 or 1851 Census and find his father and anyone else living in the household. Many thanks Peter in Sydney

Dear Lister Many many thanks to those who very kindly responded to my plea, especially Peter, John and Anthea. I will follow up on your suggestions soon. Regards Phyll Clover (ex Leeds WRY)

Florence wrote: > I am not receiving any messages from Bedford site is any one else > having trouble > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Surnames List can be viewed at: > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > Search Results These are the addresses on the BEDFORD mailing lists that match STEVE-K-DEAN@sdean3.fsnet.co.uk. If any of these users need to be unsubscribed, you can do that easily by checking the unsubscribe box next to their address, then scrolling down to the bottom and pressing the Unsubscribe button below the list. You can unsubscribe several addresses at once if necessary. * BEDFORD-L: (1 match) STEVE-K-DEAN@sdean3.fsnet.co.uk -- hugh papatoetoe, new zealand http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw researching Winters, Wells, Benger, Le Blond, Hayes, Davern and Furness

Hi Peter I think the 1861 age for Sarah is wrong - age 53 when she had William seems a bit old (did you notice in 1861 William's occupation is "Idiot"?) In 1851 at Haynes (indexed as Cawley) John Crawley h m 62 lab b Hawnes Sarah Crawley wife 49 plaiter b Hawnes William Crawley 15 plaiter b Hawnes In 1841 indexed as Gramley John Crawley 54 lab Sarah Crawley 49 Jane 18; Benjamin 14; William 6 Maria Tolesberry? 20 All born in county This lot seem conspicuous by their absence from the IGI! Regards David Peter Booth <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : Listers, Can someone help with the parents of William Crawley born about 1835 (possibly at Haynes)? In 1861 Census, unmarried William is shown at Haynes with mother Sarah age 78 born Maulden and Charlotte Cox age 17, grandaughter. I can't find the birth of William on IGI or FreeBMD nor a CRAWLEY + COX marriage around the time of his birth. I believe this Sarah could possibly be my ggg grandmother, Sarah Cox (nee Coleman) c1785. Her first husband was Christopher Cox of Maulden. They married in 1810 and had 11 children. Christopher Cox was sentenced to transportation in 1831 after his son brought home a stolen turkey. I believe he died on the prison hulks and, unlike his son, can find no record of arrival in Australia. Sarah would be around mid 40's when her husband died. I am assuming that she re-married Mr Crawley around 1834. Charlotte COX appears to be the daughter of Sarah's son Francis COX. If he can't be found on parish records, perhaps somebody would be good enough to try and find William Crawley b1835 in 1841 or 1851 Census and find his father and anyone else living in the household. Many thanks Peter in Sydney ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at http://www.bfhs.org.uk --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire.

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Hi Phyll It's worth contacting Beds record office. I found - quite by chance- the name of a relative mentioned in David Hawkings' book 'Criminal Ancestors'. When I contacted the Beds Archives, they were extremely helpful and sent me several newspaper articles. Regards Anthea ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyll Clover" <p-clover@paradise.net.nz> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: [BDF] Gaol Registers - Help please. > Hello Listers > How can I find out more about some miscreants who appear on the > Bedfordshire Gaol Register in the first half of the 19th century, please?. > There are references given e.g BLARS QGV 10/1. > I would love to check to see if the William WOODLAND (b 1783/4) who is > shown in the register in 1833 and 1844 is my 'missing' 3 x great > grandfather. (DoB and PoB tally.) > > TIA > Phyll Clover > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates or info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > >

Good Evening I am returning to the list after along break.I am interested in the name Inward. When I was last on the list a lady called Margaret Goodwin kindly offered to send me information given to her by a family called Inwards near her. Also she passed on my e-mail address and ask them to contact me direct. As yet I have not heard from them. I believe that Cornwall was mention in relation to the Inwards and as my ancestor move down there I am still interested to here anything they might have.so if any one has Margaret's e-mail address i would be very grateful. "Steve"

Has anyone researched the Inwards Family from Hockliffe, I am particulary interested in George Inwards B1803 in Hockliffe. Bob Halfway between Holmfirth and Wakefield, England

The reason that I sentt a message to the Bedford list is that the list is described as being for those interested in Bedfordshire and Hertfordshire, I also sent one to the Hertfordshire list. I have sent for the marriage certificate already and I know that the lady in question died in Berkhampstead where she was living with her family. I have been researching for a number of years and am aware that marriages, cchristenings and burials may take place anywhere in the area of the named registration district Thank you for your interest ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve McLaughlin" <eve@varneys.demon.co.uk> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: 26 June 2006 17:17 Subject: Re: [BDF] Berkhampstead PR's > In message <004301c6976d$5474ad80$05fdf93e@oemcomputer>, > rwtgreenlarksmead@freeola.com writes > >Good morning, is there anyone on the list who has access to the PR's of > >Berkhampstead? if so would they be kind enough to do two look ups for me. > > Two points - Berkhamstead in in Hertfordshire. > And a registration in Berkhamsted district does not mean that the person > died in the small town of Berkhamsted - it could be any of the parishes > around. > A marriage could have taken place in any church or chapel within the > district, or the Register Office itself. The burial could also have > taken place in any churchyard or chapel burial ground. > As you have piut this on the Bds list, do you have a previous > connection of the family to a particular place in Bedfordshire? > The simplest way of getting the information you require would be to buy > the certifgicate - unless anyone happens to know the fami;ly from > personal research, of course. > > -- > Eve McLaughlin > > Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians > Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > The Bedfordshire Family History Page is at > http://www.bfhs.org.uk >

Hi Phyll Contact the archives at Beds county hall at archive@bedscc.gov.uk They may be able to look at court reporting in Beds Times or Bedford Mercury newspapers, or have info on the Petty/Quarter session whn the trial took place. or visit their web site http://www.bedfordshire.gov.uk/archive you may know this if you're looking at the Gaol database regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyll Clover" <p-clover@paradise.net.nz> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 6:23 AM Subject: [BDF] Gaol Registers - Help please. > Hello Listers > How can I find out more about some miscreants who appear on the > Bedfordshire Gaol Register in the first half of the 19th century, please?. > There are references given e.g BLARS QGV 10/1. > I would love to check to see if the William WOODLAND (b 1783/4) who is > shown in the register in 1833 and 1844 is my 'missing' 3 x great > grandfather. (DoB and PoB tally.) > > TIA > Phyll Clover > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > For any updates or info about the status of this list go to > http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.4/375 - Release Date: 25/06/2006 >

Hello Listers How can I find out more about some miscreants who appear on the Bedfordshire Gaol Register in the first half of the 19th century, please?. There are references given e.g BLARS QGV 10/1. I would love to check to see if the William WOODLAND (b 1783/4) who is shown in the register in 1833 and 1844 is my 'missing' 3 x great grandfather. (DoB and PoB tally.) TIA Phyll Clover

In message <004301c6976d$5474ad80$05fdf93e@oemcomputer>, rwtgreenlarksmead@freeola.com writes >Good morning, is there anyone on the list who has access to the PR's of >Berkhampstead? if so would they be kind enough to do two look ups for me. Two points - Berkhamstead in in Hertfordshire. And a registration in Berkhamsted district does not mean that the person died in the small town of Berkhamsted - it could be any of the parishes around. A marriage could have taken place in any church or chapel within the district, or the Register Office itself. The burial could also have taken place in any churchyard or chapel burial ground. As you have piut this on the Bds list, do you have a previous connection of the family to a particular place in Bedfordshire? The simplest way of getting the information you require would be to buy the certifgicate - unless anyone happens to know the fami;ly from personal research, of course. -- Eve McLaughlin Author of the McLaughlin Guides for family historians Secretary Bucks Genealogical Society

I have just found John COOPER ( b. Haynes 1799) in this institution in 1841 - and I thought he was probably away from home working on the land! I note that there is also a Bedford gaol. Presumably the more serious crimes were punished by gaol - or is that not so - and might it be possible to find a record of why he was sent there? Ann Lavery

Robert E C Grant [died 27 Sept 1865]. married Sarah Riseley Waldock bn 1831 -dcd 1908 [dau. of George Waldock, Astwick Mill [1793-1854] & Sophia Riseley. R E C Grant and Sarah Waldock were the parents of Caroline Sophia Grant[1855], Charles Cranfield Grant[1856], Ellen Grant [1857], George Grant [1858], Louisa Caroline Grant [1861] Robert E C Grant is buried at St Andrews of Langford Churchyard. Sacred to the Memory of Robert Emery Cranfield Grant who died September [25th or 27th ? ] 1865 aged 35 years also children of the above Caroline Sophia who died September 18th 1855 aged 18 weeks . Ellen who died February 11th 1863 aged 5 years. Louise was chr. Louisa Caroline [ Caroline after her dcd sister 1855] We do have a possibilty of there having been an older brother. Need to check and confirm the name of this possible older brother. What happened to him as we have NO records at all. Regards and thanks very much for your help Aileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 8:00 PM Subject: RE : [BDF] Finding a young lad at school : In 1861 he was a 4 year old living with his parents Robert (30, farmer of 120 acres b Langford) and Sarah (28 b Astwick Beds) at Langford, but in 1871 as a 14 year old scholar born Langford Beds, he was at London Orphan Asylum Clapton, St John's Hackney, Middlesex. : : In 1861 he also had an older brother George H aged 7, so he wasn't the eldest son. (In 1871 George Henry Grant aged 17 born Langford was an apprentice ironmonger in Cambridge) : : What may have been a younger sister, Louise Grant age 9 was staying with her uncle Henry Waldock 32, baker b Astwick Beds, at Hitchin Herts. : : Charles' mother was Sarah Waldock (married Robert Emery Cranfield Grant at Astwick 9 Mar 1853). : : It looks as though the parents may have died and the children were apprenticed out/put in an orphanage/ or stayed with relatives. : : Whilst I can't answer your question I wonder if he was apprenticed from the London Orphan Asylum rather than Bedford Grammar School (now Bedford School), and your family essay presents a sanitized history. : : You could try contacting BLARS (archive@bedscc.gov.uk) : to see if they hold pupil lists, or even the school direct : : Regards : : David : : amdg0195 <ag001@wave.co.nz> a écrit : Are there any records for Bedford Grammar School -lists of former pupils ? : : I am looking for some record that Charles Cranfield Grant : bn 31 Dec 1856 at Langford , Bedfordshire attended : Bedford Grammar School. : : Family oral history says so ..... but are there school records : to confirm this ? : : Below is an excerpt from a family essay........ : : "Eldest son [above] attended Bedford Grammar School : and was apprenticed to sail in the Merchant Marine : after schooling and served in various ships." : : Where would he have been apprenticed and how : long a period would this have been for ? : Are there records to search re this training ? : : Any guidance welcomed. : Regards : Aileen : : : : ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== : Bedfordshire at Rootsweb : http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ : : : : : - ------------------------------- : Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. :

I know David,I keep saying to the hubby I have to go to England,but he wont agree!!! I have the Hooker Baptisms Caddington Parish records 1552-1812 and it says shows a Thomas 25 dec 1760 parents Thomas and Sarah,.Marriages Thos Hooker 12 jun 1760 to a Sarah Pales,11 oct 1799 to a Jane Kennedy and a Thomas 31 dec 1811 wdr to a Martha Harris.then in the Burials..a Thomas 12 June 1790,,a Jane 2dec 1810,w of Thomas Hooker 31 years,Sarah Hooker 25 dec 1766 widow.So I think I do have to spend some time at the LDS looking through films,its just I don't have the time.But I will do it.so I really appreciate your assistance and if you sort it out let me know. thanks heaps regards Josie Goolwa SA 5214 Australia Phone: 08 8555 3887 Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@yahoo.fr> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 3:29 PM Subject: RE : [BDF] HOOKER > How sure are you that the 1790 marriage was the original Thomas? Does the > parish register describe him as a widower? There's no Sarah Hooker buried > anywhere in Beds between 1766 and 1808. > > On the face of it, it looks more likely that the 1790 marriage was of > their son Thomas christened 1760. It begs the question as to who the > Thomas's were who married in Caddington in 1799, 1811, 1826 and 1829. > > As there's a Sarah Tyler baptised in Caddington in 1807 which may have > been the Sarah Tyler who married in 1829 I very much doubt if her husband > was the son of the original Thomas and Sarah as he would have been 69 by > then! The 1841 census shows Thomas Hooker age 35 and Sarah 30 in > Caddington, and there's a burial in Caddington on 25 July 1844 of Sarah > Hooker age 37. He's more likely to have been the Thomas, son of Samuel and > Mary baptised in 1806. > > It looks as though you may have rolled 3 generations into 2. > > There are simply too many Thomas Hooker events in Caddington to sort them > out from the IGI/NBI, or even from the transcription which doesn't include > marriage witnesses and only goes up to 1812. You really need to check the > microfilm at your nearest LDS Family History Centre . Who for example was > Thomas Hooker aged 39 who was baptised in Caddington in 1817? > > There's nothing obvious on the IGI for either Sarah Kilby or Sarah Pales. > Reference to Flamstead, Herts parish register for the 1861 marriage may > give the parish of residence of both Sarah and Thomas, plus witnesses > which may provide a clue. > > For ag labs I think you can rule out divorces. They just went down the > road to London and remarried bigamously! > > Regards > > David > > Rod & Josie Butterfield <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> a écrit : Hi , I am > still hunting a Thomas HOOKER or supposedly married a Sarah KILBY in 1760 > had 12 children between 1760 and 1787,then married Sarah PALES in 1790 and > had 1 child.Their son Thomas also married a Sarah (TYLER) in > 1829.....Sarah must have been a popular name back then. > > Can any one help me with Births and Deaths / Divorces on Sarah's > KILBY/PALES > thanks and regards > Josie. > Goolwa SA 5214 > Australia > Phone: 08 8555 3887 > Email: goolwatimejewellery@bigpond.com > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire Towns and Villages: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/placeindex.html > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son > interface révolutionnaire. > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire Towns and Villages: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/placeindex.html >

Hello Aileen, I wrote to the Archivist at archive@bedscc.gov.uk who was helpful and gave me some admission dates for 1896, also discharge dates. Good luck, Prue Gore Tasmania, Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "amdg0195" <ag001@wave.co.nz> To: <BEDFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: [BDF] Finding a young lad at school > Are there any records for Bedford Grammar School - > lists of former pupils ? > > I am looking for some record that Charles Cranfield Grant > bn 31 Dec 1856 at Langford , Bedfordshire attended > Bedford Grammar School. > > Family oral history says so ..... but are there school records > to confirm this ? > > Below is an excerpt from a family essay........ > > "Eldest son [above] attended Bedford Grammar School > and was apprenticed to sail in the Merchant Marine > after schooling and served in various ships." > > Where would he have been apprenticed and how > long a period would this have been for ? > Are there records to search re this training ? > > Any guidance welcomed. > Regards > Aileen > > > > ==== BEDFORD Mailing List ==== > Bedfordshire at Rootsweb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~engbdf/ > >

Are there any records for Bedford Grammar School - lists of former pupils ? I am looking for some record that Charles Cranfield Grant bn 31 Dec 1856 at Langford , Bedfordshire attended Bedford Grammar School. Family oral history says so ..... but are there school records to confirm this ? Below is an excerpt from a family essay........ "Eldest son [above] attended Bedford Grammar School and was apprenticed to sail in the Merchant Marine after schooling and served in various ships." Where would he have been apprenticed and how long a period would this have been for ? Are there records to search re this training ? Any guidance welcomed. Regards Aileen