All baptisms pre 1812 in this part of Beds have been extracted onto the IGI, and as she's not on the IGI there's every chance she wasn't baptised in the established church. Whilst there's no Edith of any surname in Arlesey at the right time, have you considered the possibility that she may have been part of the Samwell family in Arlesey, whose name seemed to fluctuate between Sammon and Samwell during the 18th century, and a couple of them were buried as Salmon? It's possible she could have been a daughter of Soloman and Mary Samwell/Salmon/Sammon, but proving it is another matter altogether. David [email protected] a écrit : Thanks Carol, I know she was married in Arlesey to Thomas Olif(v)er and moved to Langford later, where she died before the 1851 census. I have the Arlesey and Langford registers but don't seem to be able to find a baptism. There may be many reasons for this, of course, but I wondered if she may be lurking somewhere local to these. The only Edith Salmon that I can find on the LDS website for about the right time is from Wiltshire, so I doubt this is the right one. Unfortunately I can give you no more information than that. No worries if it is too problematic, I will one day try again at Bedford record office. When I went before there was a very helpful man there but I don't think he understood quite what I was looking for, my fault entirely as I don't think I explained myself correctly. Many thanks for getting back to me. Jane The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Envoyé avec Yahoo! Mail. Capacité de stockage illimitée pour vos emails.

Hi Kevin I sent her an email today through my contact with her with genes reunited, just waiting to see if I get a reply. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Poile" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:04 PM Subject: [BDF] SUMMERFIELDS Maulden > Wonder if anybody has a current contact details for a "Katrina Poole" > she was sharing information a couple of years ago with a Doris Tutty > re: SUMMERFIELDS of Maulden. However, the e-mail address is no longer > valid. Would be greatful since at the time she stated that she had a > photograph showing several generations of the Summerfield family. > > Cheers > > Kevin > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello Brian In my tree I have an Elizabeth Dicks born 1714 at Millbrook which is nearby to Lidlington. She married Robert Axome of Marston Moretaine in 1733.(She is my 5x great grandmother) Her parents were Isaac Dicks and Joanna Saunders. You might find these are connected. I haven't researched any more on these yet. Peter Jarman -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bryan Dix Sent: 24 March 2008 17:19 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BDF] Fiche of Parish Registers up to 1812 Hi Carol Thank You very much for all your assistance. I shall look into those other DIX's you found. They will probably fit in somewhere. All your help is much appreciated. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Rudram" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Fiche of Parish Registers up to 1812 > Hi Bryan Dix from South Africa, > > The following information is from the Lidlington fiche. > > Baptisms > 1776 11 April William son of Isaac & Susan DIXEY > 1779 28 March John son of Isaac & Susan DIX > 1781 July 22 Martha dau of Isaac & Susan DIX, buried 10 Jan 1784 > 1784 July 25 Sarah dau of Isaac & Susan DIX > 1786 March 23 Isaac son of Isaac & Susan DIX > > Marriage > 1778 Oct 15 Richard DIX of Wilshamptead to Mary SAUNDERS/SANDERS by > Banns > > Burials > 1787 March 23 Elizabeth dau of John & Rebecca DIX > 1790 April 7 Isaac DIX > > I also looked at Wilstead parish fiche, which is sometimes called > Wilshampstead, and found the following burials ? any connection > 1809 Aug 31 Richard DIX, labourer > 1793 Nov 15 Mary wife of Richard DIX > > Hope this is of some help, > Carol > > > >Hi Carol > > > >My name is Bryan Dix from South Africa. I am researching the DIX family from > >Lidlington. I am trying to find anything on a Richard DIX or any other DIX > >from ca 1750 to 1799. > > > >I would appreciate it if you could assist with Thank you for the kind offer. > > > >Bryan > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carol Rudram" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:20 PM > >Subject: [BDF] Fiche of Parish Registers up to 1812 > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I'm willing to do look ups for the following Bedfordshire parishes as I > >> have the fiches for them- remembering they all finish in 1812 and the > >> start date can vary:- Ampthill, Barford (both Little & Great), > >> Biggleswade, Blunham, > >> Bolnhurst, Cardington, Campton cum Shefford, Clophill, > >> Cople,Clinton,Dunton,Eaton Socon,Eversholt,Everton,Flitton with > >> Silsoe,Flitwick,Harrold,Harlington,Haynes,Henlow,Houghton > >> Conquest,Leighton Buzzard, Lidlington, Langford and Little Staughton. > >> I have more but I think too many at one time will be a bit time > >> consuming! > >> > >> > >> Carol Rudram > >> Researching Edwards & Webb trees in Bedfordshire. > >> > >> -- > >> Carol Rudram > >> > >> > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > > >The List Guidelines > > > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Carol Rudram > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wonder if anybody has a current contact details for a "Katrina Poole" she was sharing information a couple of years ago with a Doris Tutty re: SUMMERFIELDS of Maulden. However, the e-mail address is no longer valid. Would be greatful since at the time she stated that she had a photograph showing several generations of the Summerfield family. Cheers Kevin

Hi Carol Thank You very much for all your assistance. I shall look into those other DIX's you found. They will probably fit in somewhere. All your help is much appreciated. Bryan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Rudram" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Fiche of Parish Registers up to 1812 > Hi Bryan Dix from South Africa, > > The following information is from the Lidlington fiche. > > Baptisms > 1776 11 April William son of Isaac & Susan DIXEY > 1779 28 March John son of Isaac & Susan DIX > 1781 July 22 Martha dau of Isaac & Susan DIX, buried 10 Jan 1784 > 1784 July 25 Sarah dau of Isaac & Susan DIX > 1786 March 23 Isaac son of Isaac & Susan DIX > > Marriage > 1778 Oct 15 Richard DIX of Wilshamptead to Mary SAUNDERS/SANDERS by > Banns > > Burials > 1787 March 23 Elizabeth dau of John & Rebecca DIX > 1790 April 7 Isaac DIX > > I also looked at Wilstead parish fiche, which is sometimes called > Wilshampstead, and found the following burials ? any connection > 1809 Aug 31 Richard DIX, labourer > 1793 Nov 15 Mary wife of Richard DIX > > Hope this is of some help, > Carol > > > >Hi Carol > > > >My name is Bryan Dix from South Africa. I am researching the DIX family from > >Lidlington. I am trying to find anything on a Richard DIX or any other DIX > >from ca 1750 to 1799. > > > >I would appreciate it if you could assist with Thank you for the kind offer. > > > >Bryan > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Carol Rudram" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:20 PM > >Subject: [BDF] Fiche of Parish Registers up to 1812 > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> I'm willing to do look ups for the following Bedfordshire parishes as I > >> have the fiches for them- remembering they all finish in 1812 and the > >> start date can vary:- Ampthill, Barford (both Little & Great), > >> Biggleswade, Blunham, > >> Bolnhurst, Cardington, Campton cum Shefford, Clophill, > >> Cople,Clinton,Dunton,Eaton Socon,Eversholt,Everton,Flitton with > >> Silsoe,Flitwick,Harrold,Harlington,Haynes,Henlow,Houghton > >> Conquest,Leighton Buzzard, Lidlington, Langford and Little Staughton. > >> I have more but I think too many at one time will be a bit time > >> consuming! > >> > >> > >> Carol Rudram > >> Researching Edwards & Webb trees in Bedfordshire. > >> > >> -- > >> Carol Rudram > >> > >> > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > > >The List Guidelines > > > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Carol Rudram > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Carol, I know she was married in Arlesey to Thomas Olif(v)er and moved to Langford later, where she died before the 1851 census. I have the Arlesey and Langford registers but don't seem to be able to find a baptism. There may be many reasons for this, of course, but I wondered if she may be lurking somewhere local to these. The only Edith Salmon that I can find on the LDS website for about the right time is from Wiltshire, so I doubt this is the right one. Unfortunately I can give you no more information than that. No worries if it is too problematic, I will one day try again at Bedford record office. When I went before there was a very helpful man there but I don't think he understood quite what I was looking for, my fault entirely as I don't think I explained myself correctly. Many thanks for getting back to me. Jane

Rachel, About 95% of Bedfordshire Parish Registers are on IGI. All that changed in 1812 was a new register format. Then from 1837 compulsory registration commenced. So you should be looking at IGI prior to 1837 and quarterly indexes thereafter. If you can't find people in Bedfordshire PR's prior to 1837, they are usually non-conformist or mis-spelt. Compulsory registration meant the demise of Parish Registers as a source, although some continued until much later. If you look at the Hugh Wallis site you will see the period covered by batches from each parish. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBedford.htm#PageTitle The problem with the lookups was that people were asking for information that in most cases they could find for themselves. If you have someone you can't find, post it on the list. There may be a good explanation coming for all those experienced eyes. Peter

Hi Jane, It would take me ages to go through every fiche I have for Edith SALMON, if you could give me an indication to what area she came from I might be able to help. Carol >Carol >I think possibly others have already looked this one up but if you come >across an Edith Salmon (spelling of surname may be different) around >1780-85ish, >I would be more than grateful if you would let me know. >Many thanks >Jane > > > > > > > > >The List Guidelines > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Carol Rudram

Hi Bryan Dix from South Africa, The following information is from the Lidlington fiche. Baptisms 1776 11 April William son of Isaac & Susan DIXEY 1779 28 March John son of Isaac & Susan DIX 1781 July 22 Martha dau of Isaac & Susan DIX, buried 10 Jan 1784 1784 July 25 Sarah dau of Isaac & Susan DIX 1786 March 23 Isaac son of Isaac & Susan DIX Marriage 1778 Oct 15 Richard DIX of Wilshamptead to Mary SAUNDERS/SANDERS by Banns Burials 1787 March 23 Elizabeth dau of John & Rebecca DIX 1790 April 7 Isaac DIX I also looked at Wilstead parish fiche, which is sometimes called Wilshampstead, and found the following burials ? any connection 1809 Aug 31 Richard DIX, labourer 1793 Nov 15 Mary wife of Richard DIX Hope this is of some help, Carol >Hi Carol > >My name is Bryan Dix from South Africa. I am researching the DIX family from >Lidlington. I am trying to find anything on a Richard DIX or any other DIX >from ca 1750 to 1799. > >I would appreciate it if you could assist with Thank you for the kind offer. > >Bryan >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Carol Rudram" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 7:20 PM >Subject: [BDF] Fiche of Parish Registers up to 1812 > > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm willing to do look ups for the following Bedfordshire parishes as I >> have the fiches for them- remembering they all finish in 1812 and the >> start date can vary:- Ampthill, Barford (both Little & Great), >> Biggleswade, Blunham, >> Bolnhurst, Cardington, Campton cum Shefford, Clophill, >> Cople,Clinton,Dunton,Eaton Socon,Eversholt,Everton,Flitton with >> Silsoe,Flitwick,Harrold,Harlington,Haynes,Henlow,Houghton >> Conquest,Leighton Buzzard, Lidlington, Langford and Little Staughton. >> I have more but I think too many at one time will be a bit time >> consuming! >> >> >> Carol Rudram >> Researching Edwards & Webb trees in Bedfordshire. >> >> -- >> Carol Rudram >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > >The List Guidelines > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Carol Rudram

Hi there Dennis in New Jersey, I found amongst the baptisms for Henlow 19th July 1782 William son of Steven & Sarah HARE, shoemaker 8 Aug 1784 Thomas son of Stephen & Sarah HARE 12 Oct 1788 John aged 2yrs and Eleanor son & dau of Stephen & Sarah HARE 18 July 1790 Sarah dau of Stephen & Sarah HARE 25 Nov 1798 James son of Stephen & Sarah HARE 17 Sept. 1807 John son of Thomas & Ann HARE There were some earlier baptisms between 1737 & 1753 for 7 children of John & Elizabeth HARE. labourer. (none were called Steven!) Marriages 1 may 1633 William HEST/OST to Elizabeth HARE 28 April 1658 William SHILLITER to Susan HARE 31 May 1661 Matthew HARE to Mary BALE 2 Oct. 1781 Stephen HARE to Sarah BYWATER Burials 9 July 1635 John HARE 14 Jan. 1653/4 widow HARE 2 Feb 1767 John HARE, labourer 17 Jan. 1785 Elizabeth HARE from the workhouse 28 Oct. 1790 Eleanor dau of Stephen & Sarah HARE 28 Dec 1798 John son of Stephen & Sarah HARE Hope this is of some help, if you want the dates of the children of John & Elizabeth I can let you have them. Carol >It appears that William Hare was born/baptized in Henlow ca.1783. George >Hare, bn. Henlow ca.1819, seems most likely to be his son. (Also a Mary Hare >daughter). >I don't know who William married or who were his parents.? >Can the Parish Registers help? > >The Hare name in Bedfordshire seems very, very prolific. > >Thanks for any guidance, >Dennis in New Jersey > > > > > >**************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL >Home. >(http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aol >hom00030000000001) > > > >The List Guidelines > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Carol Rudram

Hi Peter in Sydney, The marriage of Christopher COX and Ann PECK is recorded on 16th September 1743 in Wootton, no other details. Neither seem to come from Wootton! Maulden - I found the following baptisms of some of Christopher & Ann COX children, March 24 1750/1 Elizabeth, Chris. is noted as being a labourer Sept. 18 1753 William 6th June 1756 Susan William marries in Maulden Aug 5 1776 to Elizabeth THOMSON Burials in Maulden 18 May 1753 Sarah wife of William COX 9 Sept. 1765 Pheobe, dau of Chris. COX 6 Oct. 1765 Ann wife of Chris. COX I also looked in a few of the surrounding parishes I have - Clophill I found a baptism of Mary dau of Chris. & Ann COX on 13 November 1743. and in Flitton cum Silsoe I found another baptism of another Mary to Chris. COX on 16 July 1748. It looks as though the COX family moved around a bit. I know some of my labourer ancestors seem to move quiet often I think due to where the work was! Hope this is of some help Carol >Carol, > > I hope you don't feel under siege. I wonder if you have anything from >Wooton by Bedford. > > In Sept 1743, Christopher Cox married Ann Peck. I wonder if the marriage >records their ages, parents, birthplaces etc or any witnesses. > > I'm also interested in Maulden PR's. I wonder if the fiche have any >death records. I'm interested in the Cox surname. > > Many thanks > > Peter in Sydney > > > > >The List Guidelines > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Carol Rudram

Hi David & Peter, The 1200 ref to William de GRENEHILL of Beds is supposedly in the Pipe Rolls of Bedfordshire mentioned here:- http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Greenhill The 1332 ref to John de GRENHUL (sorry, I think I might have spelt this differently in the previous post) of Bedford is mentioned here and I would guess it comes from the Beds 1332 Lay Subsidy Rolls:- http://www.surnamedb.com/surname.aspx?name=Greenall There seem to have been some GRENELLs in Barton In The Clay, Beds in the 1500s who spread out a little, but it is more common in Herts where it varies between GREENHILL, GRENNEL, GRUNNEL, etc. In Herts there was a large concentration of them farming at Barley in the late 1500s. The GRUNNEL spelling centred on St Albans and spread mainly east. Cheers, Mr. Happy :-) _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile. Text MSN to 63463 now! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx

Hi Gus, Yes, Grennill, Grinnell and Gronnel, etc. look like other variants. Judging by the IGI Grunnel was perhaps more common than the others but was used even more in Lincs and Yorks than it was in Beds/Herts. Greenhalgh is very common in Lancs. Although there were Greenhills/halls/halghs in Scotland it doesn't seem to have been spelt Grunnel/Grinnel. Perhaps it was a midlands/east anglian thing? It does sounds a bit brummie, come to think of it.. Cheers, Mr Happy :-) > ------------------------------> From: "Gus Tysoe" <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [BDF] Beds/Herts Accents> > Dunno 'bout Beds/Nerts but up yer'n the middunds'ts more GRENNILL.> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mr Happy" <[email protected]>> Subject: [BDF] Beds/Herts Accents> > The spelling of GREENHILL in Beds and Herts varies between GREENHILL and the> more abbbreviated/lazy GRUNNEL. This has carried on for hundreds of years> and only stopped in the late 1800s. I assume this means that they had a> regional burr and pronounced the name GRUNNEL, but the occasional well> spoken vicar interpreted it as GREENHILL.> > Does this fit in with regional accents of days gone by in Beds and Herts?> > Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

Does anyone know if the Bedfordshire parish registers for 1813-1837 are available or even in existance? Thanks, Rachel Gujral On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Dianne <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Angela > I'd like to take up on your offer to look up something for me. Looking for > info on Hills line. > WILLIAM HILLS ab.1878 and SARAH STAPLETON b.1878 -married 1895 Ampthill > (GG parents) > I would love to find out the other children - I know of one Elsie May > b.1898 Marston. ( Gmother) > In the parish I believe of Maulden. Any help will be appreciated. > > > Dianne > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > Behalf Of Angela Cox > Sent: Friday, 7 March 2008 7:29 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [BDF] parish register look ups > > Hi, > I have the following parish registers on loan until the end of March. If > you > would like anything checked please ask and I'll do my best. > > Potton, Chalgrave, Maulden, Flitton with Silsoe and Pulloxhill. > > > --------------------------------- > Sent from Yahoo! Mail. > The World 's Favourite Email. > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Its true what Peter says about looking things up for yourselves. Nearly all Bedfordshire (and a lot of Hertfordshire) parish registers are online at www.familysearch.org. In the left hand panel of the page is a menu, the best one to click on is the 4th option down, International Genealogical Index. Just put in the name and approximate year with a range of between 2 & 20 years and you should come up with some results. That is the basic way of searching, however there are other ways too, such as finding all the children born to a couple. Leave out the first and last name boxes and put the names of the mother and father in, then births, then approximate year and year range - I always put in 20 years - ie if your couple married in 1800 then the year I put in would be 1818 so I would get all children born to couples with the same names from 1798 to 1838 just in case there was a child born shortly before the marriage, which sometimes happens. Another method of searching is by finding a relevant ancestor, then clicking on the batch number and search within that batch number for other family members - it works for me every time. If it has a batch number then it is a proper extraction for a parish register, batches begin with C J K P for baptisms and M for marriages. If it doesnt have any of those in front of the number then its not an extraction and is a submitted entry from an LDS member and cannot be taken as gospel. If you use the IGI in conjunction with the censuses for 19th century ancestors, you really cant go wrong and can find most of your ancestors for yourselves. In my opinion I think any serious researcher should have a subscription to a pay website such as Ancestry, it pays for itself many times over and has a wealth of information. You will also find it more rewarding finding ancestors for yourself. And please remember to try all variations of a name, until quite recently there was no "correct" way of spelling a name, the name was spelt according to accent and the ability or lack of ability to write and spell. OK lecture over. Cheers Patti ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <[email protected]nd.net.au> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] parish register look ups > Rachel, > > About 95% of Bedfordshire Parish Registers are on IGI. All that > changed > in 1812 was a new register format. Then from 1837 compulsory registration > commenced. So you should be looking at IGI prior to 1837 and quarterly > indexes thereafter. > > If you can't find people in Bedfordshire PR's prior to 1837, they are > usually non-conformist or mis-spelt. > > Compulsory registration meant the demise of Parish Registers as a > source, although some continued until much later. > > If you look at the Hugh Wallis site you will see the period covered by > batches from each parish. > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers/CountyBedford.htm#PageTitle > > The problem with the lookups was that people were asking for > information > that in most cases they could find for themselves. > > If you have someone you can't find, post it on the list. There may be a > good explanation coming for all those experienced eyes. > > Peter > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: > 22/03/2008 16:43 > > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4904 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

David, I should have said that there was no reference to GRUNNEL in the VCH either. Cheers, Peter BullGuard Anti-virus has scanned this e-mail and found it clean. Try BullGuard for free: www.bullguard.com

What's the source of this reference to de Grunnel? I can't find anything in the TNA catalogue, on A2A, nor in the BLARS catalogue David Mr Happy <[email protected]> a écrit : Thanks Peter & Peter, I couldn't find anything on multimap resembling a place called Greenhill/hall in Beds, but it does miss out small villages so thought it worth a check. I know there were places called Greenhill near Cambridge and Rickmansworth but they are about 50 miles from Bedford. At that distance it starts getting less probable that they are the source of this guy; he could really have come from anywhere in the country.. Have a related question about accents but will post as separate thread. Thanks Again > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> From: "Peter Wood" > Subject: Re: [BDF] Greenhill/Greenhall/Greenhollow> > I would agree with Peter Seabrook.> > In the Victoria County History of Bedfordshire the only name starting with > Green is Greenfield. Although the name appears to arise in the 13th century > The Place Names of Bedfordshire gives Grenefeld (1286) as self explanatory.> > Regards,> > Peter Wood> Flitwick, Bedfordshire _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Envoyé avec Yahoo! Mail. Capacité de stockage illimitée pour vos emails.

Dunno 'bout Beds/Nerts but up yer'n the middunds'ts more GRENNILL. Also unsigned ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mr Happy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 7:15 PM Subject: [BDF] Beds/Herts Accents The spelling of GREENHILL in Beds and Herts varies between GREENHILL and the more abbbreviated/lazy GRUNNEL. This has carried on for hundreds of years and only stopped in the late 1800s. I assume this means that they had a regional burr and pronounced the name GRUNNEL, but the occasional well spoken vicar interpreted it as GREENHILL. Does this fit in with regional accents of days gone by in Beds and Herts? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The spelling of GREENHILL in Beds and Herts varies between GREENHILL and the more abbbreviated/lazy GRUNNEL. This has carried on for hundreds of years and only stopped in the late 1800s. I assume this means that they had a regional burr and pronounced the name GRUNNEL, but the occasional well spoken vicar interpreted it as GREENHILL. Does this fit in with regional accents of days gone by in Beds and Herts? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com

Thanks Peter & Peter, I couldn't find anything on multimap resembling a place called Greenhill/hall in Beds, but it does miss out small villages so thought it worth a check. I know there were places called Greenhill near Cambridge and Rickmansworth but they are about 50 miles from Bedford. At that distance it starts getting less probable that they are the source of this guy; he could really have come from anywhere in the country.. Have a related question about accents but will post as separate thread. Thanks Again > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> From: "Peter Wood" <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [BDF] Greenhill/Greenhall/Greenhollow> > I would agree with Peter Seabrook.> > In the Victoria County History of Bedfordshire the only name starting with > Green is Greenfield. Although the name appears to arise in the 13th century > The Place Names of Bedfordshire gives Grenefeld (1286) as self explanatory.> > Regards,> > Peter Wood> Flitwick, Bedfordshire _________________________________________________________________ Amazing prizes every hour with Live Search Big Snap http://www.bigsnapsearch.com