Morning Janice & David Mother & grandson are doing fine thanks; & I'm not easily distracted except for visits to Dunstable !. I still think Mary Elliott is the Mary baptised 3//3/1811 is daughter of William & Mary ELLET as per extracted IGI entry. They had other Ellet children baptised at Eaton Socon as per IGI & buried as per escan site entries; as follows John baptised 13/12/1812 - died 1813 age 4 months Ann baptised 04/09/1814 dued 1828 age 14 years William bapt 10/05/1817 died 1826 age 9 years James bapt 01/12/1822 died 1823 age 10 months Mother Mary was buried 18/June 1827 age 44 making her born 1783 There was another son John bapt 23/04/1820. On 1841 census he is named Elliott with wife Rachel daughter Mary age 8 mnths. 1851 through to 1891 they appear with further children Maomi & Harriet with the name ELLARD. Marriage index at St Neots Oct/Dec 1839 is John Elliott to Rachel Stevens. On later censuses his occupation is watch & clock cleaner; & he has an ntry in the BHRS vol 70 Beds Clock & watchmakers under the name Ellard. So with wife Mary dying in 1827, William ELLETT (Widower) married Elizabeth Barnes (Widow) on 23/12/1827 at Eaton Socon. 1851 has them in Eaton Socon William age 1776 born Rushden ! ! ! ! & Elizabeth b 1771 Budden/Buckden, Hunts 1841 has them age 60 & 65 So Mary Elliot 1810 is not daughter of John & Jemima but most likely is their niece, because John & William both born Rushden about same time, could be brothers ??? - something to ask Sandy on the Northants RootsChat board (akready posted) Have a think about that. Regards Grandad John ---- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon Hello David, Thank you for replying, John will now find himself rather distracted for a while. I have recently retired and now have more time to spend researching my family in depth. I visited Eaton Socon in June this year and was lucky enough to find the very informative books published by ESCAN, several of them mentioned members of the Elliott and Case families. Up until then I only had information on Ann and Mary. My G/G/Grandmother was the Ann Elliott who married Robert Case and she was his housekeeper before they married. I do not know if she was married before they married there is certainly no evidence of it from this end. (We did know she had been his housekeeper). I think I will just leave the Mary Elliott - John Wrench from Great Staughton as is, except of the Christening information. They were certainly the parents of Thomas and Jacob Wrench that came to Australia and they were both the nephews of Ann Elliott/Case All of the information I have regarding Ann Elliott shows her coming from Bushmead. I realise that Bushmead is close to Colmworth but until very recently Colmworth hadn't been mentioned. No, I have no information on John and Jemima's children having been christened in bulk but Mary and John WRENCH's children were, Thomas, Mary Ann and William on 19/5/1839, George and Sophia on 6/8/1843, Eliza and Joel on 7/5/1854. It would seem that the parents of Ann and Mary could have (I hope so) been John Ellard and Jemima Gray. Are the parish records of Colmworth available? do they go back very far? Are these records being looked at by the ESCAN group, they are doing such a wonderful job in the Eaton Socon area. Thank you again for answering my request, Kind regards Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 2:44 AM, David <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been working with John on this Elliott family, but he's a bit > distracted at the moment having become a grandfather earlier today. > > We think that his Mary Elliott/Ellet is the one baptised on 3 March 1811 > at > Eaton Socon, daughter of William and Mary. This is an IGI entry extracted > from the parish register so is reliable. Unfortunately an LDS member has > hijacked this baptism, changed the father to John, and married Mary off to > John Rench at Gt Staughton. I don't think there's much doubt that Mary, > daughter of John and Jemima, married John Rench, but she wasn't baptised > on > 3 March 1811. > > Apart from Lydia's baptism at Colmworth in 1832 (extracted entry) the IGI > also has a member submission for the baptism of Ann Elliott, daughter of > John, at Colmworth on 23 March 1845, birth about 1818. The only Ann I can > see baptised on this date at Colmworth was Ann Herbert, but no parents > were > mentioned, nor was there an age giving an implied birth of 1818. However I > see that an Ann Elliott, father John, married Joseph Herbert in 1839 at > Colmworth so the baptism may have been a post marriage, very late, one. Is > this the Ann who married Robert Case? Seems odd if so, as Robert appears > to > have married an Ann Elliot, not Herbert, who was a servant in his > household > in 1851. Mysterious, particularly as I can't find the Herberts in 1851! > > When you say the children were baptised in bulk are you referring to the > children of John and Jemima, as I can't find their baptisms at all (apart > from Lydia and possibly Ann as very late ones)? > > I believe that John and Jemima were the John Ellard and Jemima Gray > married > at Eaton Socon on 15 Sept 1806, and that Jemima Gray was baptised at > Colmworth on 4 March 1787 at Colmworth, daughter of John and Lydia > (probably > explaining where the name Lydia came from with the Elliotts/Cases). > > Ages over 15 in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below (or should > have been!); they were not rounded up. > > Baptism entries do not have details of godparents. Life would be much > easier if they did! > > David > > > --- En date de : Jeu 21.8.08, Janice Peasnell <[email protected]> a > écrit : > > > De: Janice Peasnell <[email protected]> > > Objet: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > À: [email protected] > > Date: Jeudi 21 Août 2008, 1h59 > > Hello John, > > > > The information involving this family is complicated to say > > the least. The > > villages of Eaton Socon, Bushmead, Duloe and even St Neots > > gets thrown into > > the mix pretty regularly. > > > > I was contacted about 30 years ago by a member of the > > WRENCH family who had > > done a considerable amount of research on their family and > > they believed > > that Mary WRENCH and Ann CASE were sisters. > > > > I have found that both Mary and Ann ELLIOTT (my > > G/G.Grandmother) are > > recorded as being born in Bushmead - Mary's marrriage > > info on IGI and the > > 1881 Census, and Ann in the 1851 Census and her shipping > > records). In 1865 > > two sons of Mary and John WRENCH travelled to Maryborough > > in Queensland, > > they were Thomas and Jacob. Thomas married Mary CASE the > > daughter of Ann's > > husband Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN and was > > known to be the > > nephew of Ann from Eaton Socon. Ann's shipping records > > show her parents as > > John and Jemima ELLIOTT. > > > > In both the 1841 and 1851 Census John and Jane (Jemima) > > ELLIOTT are living > > with son David in Duloe/Eaton Socon. I have written off > > for the Death > > certificate of Jemima ELLIOTT to see if there are any clues > > there that will > > tie this Jemima with Jane as the wife of John. > > > > I have started looking at the Marriage Witnesses to all of > > the children who > > were born to John ELLIOTT in Duloe and have found that > > almost all have > > family members as witnesses. For example When Lydia > > ELLIOTT and John > > CHEETHAM were married Ann Elliott and David Elliott were > > the witness. When > > Ann married Robert CASE, Lydia and John CHEETHAM were > > witnesses. When David > > ELLIOTT married Hannah PERKINS, Lydia and John CHEETHAM > > were witnesses. > > > > Regarding the Christening information - some children were > > christened in > > Bulk so it is quite possible that the Lydia you are looking > > at was > > Christened several years after her birth. I go by the ages > > given over > > multiple Census periods as a guide and certainly not the > > 1841 Census which > > was rounded down or up to the nearest 5. (Not in all cases > > but in quite a > > few). > > > > Re your question regarding their moving to Eaton Socon - > > All of the children > > of John and Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT were recorded as either > > being born in > > Bushmead or Duloe and both places are within walking > > distance of Eaton Socon > > and most of the Census papers mention Eaton Socon so it > > would depend on the > > document at the time and the person taking down the > > information. Most of > > the family look as if they could not write as they have a > > 'X' on the witness > > form of the wedding information. > > > > I do not know who put the information into IGI regarding > > the Mary ELLIOTT > > Christened in 1811 with parents William and Mary ELLET. It > > may be that Mary > > ELLET could be the sister of Jemima ELLIOTT as > > 'Lydia' appears in both > > families. Do you have access to the Christening > > documentation - if so do > > they have particulars regarding God Parents? > > > > Ann ELLIOTT who had four children after coming to Australia > > in 1856 named > > her children - Jemima, Lydia, Susanna and Hannah - after > > Mother and sisters. > > > > I hope this helps > > > > Kind regards > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM, john partridge < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > How do you know that Mary Elliott, who married John > > Wrench, was daughter of > > > John & Jemima ? > > > > > > Their 2nd child Lydia Ellet seems to have been > > christened in Colmworth in > > > 1832 while you say she's born 1817. > > > > > > & how/when did they get over to Eaton Socon area. > > OK they were there in > > > 1841 > > > & there is a burial of Jemima Elliot in ES in 1856 > > on at age 76 > > > > > > The Mary Elliot I have was born 1809/1810 & > > christened at ES on 3/3/1811 to > > > parents William & Mary Ellet > > > > > > Regards John > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Janice Peasnell" > > <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:38 AM > > > Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - > > Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > > > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > > > > > I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to > > reply. Thank you for this > > > > information, which I didn't know. Two of > > Mary and John Wrench's > > > children, > > > > Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came > > out to Australia. Thomas > > > > married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. > > Mary was the daughter of > > > > Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from > > Axminster. Robert's > > > > second > > > > wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary > > ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph > > > > married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in > > Maryborough. Isabella came > > > from > > > > Lanarkshire. > > > > > > > > If you have additional information on the family > > I would be most > > > grateful. > > > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge > > < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> Hello Jan > > > >> > > > >> Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton > > was 1st child of John > > > Wrench > > > >> & > > > >> Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph > > Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. > > > >> > > > >> Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan > > Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds > > > >> & > > > >> is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather > > > >> > > > >> John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children > > between 1836 & 1850. > > > >> > > > >> If you want more info let me know > > > >> > > > >> Regards > > > >> > > > >> John Partridge > > > >> Bedford > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Janice Peasnell" > > <[email protected]> > > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > > >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM > > > >> Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - > > Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Hello Listers, > > > >> > > > > >> > I am researching the family of John and > > Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who > > > were > > > >> > living in Duloe with their son David in > > the 1841/1851 Census. Their > > > >> > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in > > Bushmead married John WRENCH. > > > (2) > > > >> > Ann > > > >> > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married > > Robert CASE in 1853 and > > > migrated > > > >> to > > > >> > Australia with him and his young family > > in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn > > > >> > 1817 > > > >> > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they > > lived for some time in Eaton > > > Socon > > > >> > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby > > with daughter Ann. (4) David > > > >> > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah > > PERKINS in 1849. (5) James > > > >> > ELLIOTT > > > >> > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES > > in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn > > > >> > Eaton > > > >> > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah > > ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon > > > married > > > >> > William CROW in 1841. > > > >> > > > > >> > I am particularly interested in > > identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who > > > was > > > >> > born > > > >> > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT > > came from Rusden > > > >> Northhamptonshire > > > >> > in abt 1779. > > > >> > > > > >> > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann > > Elliott and would be very happy to > > > >> share > > > >> > my Australian research on the family of > > Robert and Ann CASE. > > > >> > > > > >> > Thank you for your assistance. > > > >> > > > > >> > Kind regards > > > >> > > > > >> > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > The List Guidelines > > > >> > > > > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > >> > > > > >> > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please > > send an email to > > > >> > [email protected] with the > > word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of > > the message > > > >> > > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > > 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: > > > >> > 8/4/2008 > > > >> > 8:09 AM > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> The List Guidelines > > > >> > > > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > >> > > > >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > >> > > > >> > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ------------------------------- > > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to > > > >> [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the > > message > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > > > > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to > > > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - > > Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Envoyez avec Yahoo! Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente > http://mail.yahoo.fr > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1626 - Release Date: 8/21/2008 6:54 PM

I'm new to the list and am seeking information about Rachel Pheasant, first wife of my ancestor, John Bartlett. Pheasant seems to be a familiar name in Bedfordshire and I'm hoping to find information about Rachel's family. Here's what I have found while researching in London and Tavistock, Devon: John Bartlett (believed to have been born in Calstock, Cornwall about 1764) married Rachel Pheasant in St. Marylebone Church in London in 1795. They had a daughter, Ann, that same year and sailed to America. Rachel died in February 1797 in Baltimore, Maryland, and John took daughter Ann back to England to be reared by his family. Rachel Pheasant Bartlett's will was probated in the Court of Canterbury in 1798. She left 40 pounds to her husband. Her last known address in London was Powis Place, Great Ormond Street in the parish of St. George the Martyr in the County of Middlesex. I've been unable to find any more information about Rachel. John returned to Maryland, remarried and died in Ohio. I have established that his daughter, Ann Bartlett, was living in Tavistock, Devon, in 1813 when she married John Roberts of Calstock. John and Ann Roberts had several children in Calstock before moving to America. I'm happy to share detailed information about the Bartletts and Roberts in America and many family photos. Shelby Miller Ruch in Pennsylvania

I've been working with John on this Elliott family, but he's a bit distracted at the moment having become a grandfather earlier today. We think that his Mary Elliott/Ellet is the one baptised on 3 March 1811 at Eaton Socon, daughter of William and Mary. This is an IGI entry extracted from the parish register so is reliable. Unfortunately an LDS member has hijacked this baptism, changed the father to John, and married Mary off to John Rench at Gt Staughton. I don't think there's much doubt that Mary, daughter of John and Jemima, married John Rench, but she wasn't baptised on 3 March 1811. Apart from Lydia's baptism at Colmworth in 1832 (extracted entry) the IGI also has a member submission for the baptism of Ann Elliott, daughter of John, at Colmworth on 23 March 1845, birth about 1818. The only Ann I can see baptised on this date at Colmworth was Ann Herbert, but no parents were mentioned, nor was there an age giving an implied birth of 1818. However I see that an Ann Elliott, father John, married Joseph Herbert in 1839 at Colmworth so the baptism may have been a post marriage, very late, one. Is this the Ann who married Robert Case? Seems odd if so, as Robert appears to have married an Ann Elliot, not Herbert, who was a servant in his household in 1851. Mysterious, particularly as I can't find the Herberts in 1851! When you say the children were baptised in bulk are you referring to the children of John and Jemima, as I can't find their baptisms at all (apart from Lydia and possibly Ann as very late ones)? I believe that John and Jemima were the John Ellard and Jemima Gray married at Eaton Socon on 15 Sept 1806, and that Jemima Gray was baptised at Colmworth on 4 March 1787 at Colmworth, daughter of John and Lydia (probably explaining where the name Lydia came from with the Elliotts/Cases). Ages over 15 in 1841 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below (or should have been!); they were not rounded up. Baptism entries do not have details of godparents. Life would be much easier if they did! David --- En date de : Jeu 21.8.08, Janice Peasnell <[email protected]> a écrit : > De: Janice Peasnell <[email protected]> > Objet: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > À: [email protected] > Date: Jeudi 21 Août 2008, 1h59 > Hello John, > > The information involving this family is complicated to say > the least. The > villages of Eaton Socon, Bushmead, Duloe and even St Neots > gets thrown into > the mix pretty regularly. > > I was contacted about 30 years ago by a member of the > WRENCH family who had > done a considerable amount of research on their family and > they believed > that Mary WRENCH and Ann CASE were sisters. > > I have found that both Mary and Ann ELLIOTT (my > G/G.Grandmother) are > recorded as being born in Bushmead - Mary's marrriage > info on IGI and the > 1881 Census, and Ann in the 1851 Census and her shipping > records). In 1865 > two sons of Mary and John WRENCH travelled to Maryborough > in Queensland, > they were Thomas and Jacob. Thomas married Mary CASE the > daughter of Ann's > husband Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN and was > known to be the > nephew of Ann from Eaton Socon. Ann's shipping records > show her parents as > John and Jemima ELLIOTT. > > In both the 1841 and 1851 Census John and Jane (Jemima) > ELLIOTT are living > with son David in Duloe/Eaton Socon. I have written off > for the Death > certificate of Jemima ELLIOTT to see if there are any clues > there that will > tie this Jemima with Jane as the wife of John. > > I have started looking at the Marriage Witnesses to all of > the children who > were born to John ELLIOTT in Duloe and have found that > almost all have > family members as witnesses. For example When Lydia > ELLIOTT and John > CHEETHAM were married Ann Elliott and David Elliott were > the witness. When > Ann married Robert CASE, Lydia and John CHEETHAM were > witnesses. When David > ELLIOTT married Hannah PERKINS, Lydia and John CHEETHAM > were witnesses. > > Regarding the Christening information - some children were > christened in > Bulk so it is quite possible that the Lydia you are looking > at was > Christened several years after her birth. I go by the ages > given over > multiple Census periods as a guide and certainly not the > 1841 Census which > was rounded down or up to the nearest 5. (Not in all cases > but in quite a > few). > > Re your question regarding their moving to Eaton Socon - > All of the children > of John and Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT were recorded as either > being born in > Bushmead or Duloe and both places are within walking > distance of Eaton Socon > and most of the Census papers mention Eaton Socon so it > would depend on the > document at the time and the person taking down the > information. Most of > the family look as if they could not write as they have a > 'X' on the witness > form of the wedding information. > > I do not know who put the information into IGI regarding > the Mary ELLIOTT > Christened in 1811 with parents William and Mary ELLET. It > may be that Mary > ELLET could be the sister of Jemima ELLIOTT as > 'Lydia' appears in both > families. Do you have access to the Christening > documentation - if so do > they have particulars regarding God Parents? > > Ann ELLIOTT who had four children after coming to Australia > in 1856 named > her children - Jemima, Lydia, Susanna and Hannah - after > Mother and sisters. > > I hope this helps > > Kind regards > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM, john partridge < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > How do you know that Mary Elliott, who married John > Wrench, was daughter of > > John & Jemima ? > > > > Their 2nd child Lydia Ellet seems to have been > christened in Colmworth in > > 1832 while you say she's born 1817. > > > > & how/when did they get over to Eaton Socon area. > OK they were there in > > 1841 > > & there is a burial of Jemima Elliot in ES in 1856 > on at age 76 > > > > The Mary Elliot I have was born 1809/1810 & > christened at ES on 3/3/1811 to > > parents William & Mary Ellet > > > > Regards John > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Janice Peasnell" > <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:38 AM > > Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - > Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > > > I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to > reply. Thank you for this > > > information, which I didn't know. Two of > Mary and John Wrench's > > children, > > > Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came > out to Australia. Thomas > > > married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. > Mary was the daughter of > > > Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from > Axminster. Robert's > > > second > > > wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary > ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph > > > married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in > Maryborough. Isabella came > > from > > > Lanarkshire. > > > > > > If you have additional information on the family > I would be most > > grateful. > > > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge > < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hello Jan > > >> > > >> Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton > was 1st child of John > > Wrench > > >> & > > >> Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph > Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. > > >> > > >> Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan > Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds > > >> & > > >> is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather > > >> > > >> John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children > between 1836 & 1850. > > >> > > >> If you want more info let me know > > >> > > >> Regards > > >> > > >> John Partridge > > >> Bedford > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Janice Peasnell" > <[email protected]> > > >> To: <[email protected]> > > >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM > > >> Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - > Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > >> > > >> > > >> > Hello Listers, > > >> > > > >> > I am researching the family of John and > Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who > > were > > >> > living in Duloe with their son David in > the 1841/1851 Census. Their > > >> > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in > Bushmead married John WRENCH. > > (2) > > >> > Ann > > >> > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married > Robert CASE in 1853 and > > migrated > > >> to > > >> > Australia with him and his young family > in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn > > >> > 1817 > > >> > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they > lived for some time in Eaton > > Socon > > >> > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby > with daughter Ann. (4) David > > >> > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah > PERKINS in 1849. (5) James > > >> > ELLIOTT > > >> > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES > in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn > > >> > Eaton > > >> > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah > ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon > > married > > >> > William CROW in 1841. > > >> > > > >> > I am particularly interested in > identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who > > was > > >> > born > > >> > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT > came from Rusden > > >> Northhamptonshire > > >> > in abt 1779. > > >> > > > >> > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann > Elliott and would be very happy to > > >> share > > >> > my Australian research on the family of > Robert and Ann CASE. > > >> > > > >> > Thank you for your assistance. > > >> > > > >> > Kind regards > > >> > > > >> > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > The List Guidelines > > >> > > > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > >> > > > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > >> > > > >> > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please > send an email to > > >> > [email protected] with the > word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > >> > > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > > >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: > 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: > > >> > 8/4/2008 > > >> > 8:09 AM > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The List Guidelines > > >> > > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > >> > > >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > >> > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > >> [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - > Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message _____________________________________________________________________________ Envoyez avec Yahoo! Mail. Une boite mail plus intelligente http://mail.yahoo.fr

Hello John, The information involving this family is complicated to say the least. The villages of Eaton Socon, Bushmead, Duloe and even St Neots gets thrown into the mix pretty regularly. I was contacted about 30 years ago by a member of the WRENCH family who had done a considerable amount of research on their family and they believed that Mary WRENCH and Ann CASE were sisters. I have found that both Mary and Ann ELLIOTT (my G/G.Grandmother) are recorded as being born in Bushmead - Mary's marrriage info on IGI and the 1881 Census, and Ann in the 1851 Census and her shipping records). In 1865 two sons of Mary and John WRENCH travelled to Maryborough in Queensland, they were Thomas and Jacob. Thomas married Mary CASE the daughter of Ann's husband Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN and was known to be the nephew of Ann from Eaton Socon. Ann's shipping records show her parents as John and Jemima ELLIOTT. In both the 1841 and 1851 Census John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT are living with son David in Duloe/Eaton Socon. I have written off for the Death certificate of Jemima ELLIOTT to see if there are any clues there that will tie this Jemima with Jane as the wife of John. I have started looking at the Marriage Witnesses to all of the children who were born to John ELLIOTT in Duloe and have found that almost all have family members as witnesses. For example When Lydia ELLIOTT and John CHEETHAM were married Ann Elliott and David Elliott were the witness. When Ann married Robert CASE, Lydia and John CHEETHAM were witnesses. When David ELLIOTT married Hannah PERKINS, Lydia and John CHEETHAM were witnesses. Regarding the Christening information - some children were christened in Bulk so it is quite possible that the Lydia you are looking at was Christened several years after her birth. I go by the ages given over multiple Census periods as a guide and certainly not the 1841 Census which was rounded down or up to the nearest 5. (Not in all cases but in quite a few). Re your question regarding their moving to Eaton Socon - All of the children of John and Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT were recorded as either being born in Bushmead or Duloe and both places are within walking distance of Eaton Socon and most of the Census papers mention Eaton Socon so it would depend on the document at the time and the person taking down the information. Most of the family look as if they could not write as they have a 'X' on the witness form of the wedding information. I do not know who put the information into IGI regarding the Mary ELLIOTT Christened in 1811 with parents William and Mary ELLET. It may be that Mary ELLET could be the sister of Jemima ELLIOTT as 'Lydia' appears in both families. Do you have access to the Christening documentation - if so do they have particulars regarding God Parents? Ann ELLIOTT who had four children after coming to Australia in 1856 named her children - Jemima, Lydia, Susanna and Hannah - after Mother and sisters. I hope this helps Kind regards Jan Peasnell On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 4:39 PM, john partridge < [email protected]> wrote: > How do you know that Mary Elliott, who married John Wrench, was daughter of > John & Jemima ? > > Their 2nd child Lydia Ellet seems to have been christened in Colmworth in > 1832 while you say she's born 1817. > > & how/when did they get over to Eaton Socon area. OK they were there in > 1841 > & there is a burial of Jemima Elliot in ES in 1856 on at age 76 > > The Mary Elliot I have was born 1809/1810 & christened at ES on 3/3/1811 to > parents William & Mary Ellet > > Regards John > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:38 AM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > > > Hello John, > > > > I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Thank you for this > > information, which I didn't know. Two of Mary and John Wrench's > children, > > Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came out to Australia. Thomas > > married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. Mary was the daughter of > > Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from Axminster. Robert's > > second > > wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph > > married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in Maryborough. Isabella came > from > > Lanarkshire. > > > > If you have additional information on the family I would be most > grateful. > > > > Thanks again > > > > Kind regards > > > > Jan Peasnell > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hello Jan > >> > >> Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton was 1st child of John > Wrench > >> & > >> Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. > >> > >> Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds > >> & > >> is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather > >> > >> John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children between 1836 & 1850. > >> > >> If you want more info let me know > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> John Partridge > >> Bedford > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM > >> Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > >> > >> > >> > Hello Listers, > >> > > >> > I am researching the family of John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who > were > >> > living in Duloe with their son David in the 1841/1851 Census. Their > >> > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in Bushmead married John WRENCH. > (2) > >> > Ann > >> > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married Robert CASE in 1853 and > migrated > >> to > >> > Australia with him and his young family in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn > >> > 1817 > >> > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they lived for some time in Eaton > Socon > >> > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby with daughter Ann. (4) David > >> > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah PERKINS in 1849. (5) James > >> > ELLIOTT > >> > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn > >> > Eaton > >> > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon > married > >> > William CROW in 1841. > >> > > >> > I am particularly interested in identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who > was > >> > born > >> > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT came from Rusden > >> Northhamptonshire > >> > in abt 1779. > >> > > >> > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann Elliott and would be very happy to > >> share > >> > my Australian research on the family of Robert and Ann CASE. > >> > > >> > Thank you for your assistance. > >> > > >> > Kind regards > >> > > >> > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > The List Guidelines > >> > > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >> > > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > >> > > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. > >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: > >> > 8/4/2008 > >> > 8:09 AM > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> The List Guidelines > >> > >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >> > >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >> > >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > <http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > > 4:59 PM > > > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Bedfordshire sites mentioned here: http://www.mkheritageopendays.com/ include Stevington Windmill "the only complete windmill in Beds" and Bromham Mill "A working 17th century watermill on the River Ouse" which could be of interest to anyone with milling ancestors. Also Elstow Moot Hall. [email protected] wrote: > There are some interesting buildings open during Heritage Open Days > week that may connect to people's family history : > > http://www.heritageopendays.org.uk/directory/region/ > > Hilary > > --

There are some interesting buildings open during Heritage Open Days week that may connect to people's family history : http://www.heritageopendays.org.uk/directory/region/ Hilary -- -- ------------------------------------------------- Visit Pipex Business: The homepage for UK Small Businesses Go to http://www.pipex.co.uk/business-services

How do you know that Mary Elliott, who married John Wrench, was daughter of John & Jemima ? Their 2nd child Lydia Ellet seems to have been christened in Colmworth in 1832 while you say she's born 1817. & how/when did they get over to Eaton Socon area. OK they were there in 1841 & there is a burial of Jemima Elliot in ES in 1856 on at age 76 The Mary Elliot I have was born 1809/1810 & christened at ES on 3/3/1811 to parents William & Mary Ellet Regards John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 6:38 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > Hello John, > > I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Thank you for this > information, which I didn't know. Two of Mary and John Wrench's children, > Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came out to Australia. Thomas > married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. Mary was the daughter of > Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from Axminster. Robert's > second > wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph > married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in Maryborough. Isabella came from > Lanarkshire. > > If you have additional information on the family I would be most grateful. > > Thanks again > > Kind regards > > Jan Peasnell > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello Jan >> >> Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton was 1st child of John Wrench >> & >> Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. >> >> Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds >> & >> is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather >> >> John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children between 1836 & 1850. >> >> If you want more info let me know >> >> Regards >> >> John Partridge >> Bedford >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM >> Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon >> >> >> > Hello Listers, >> > >> > I am researching the family of John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who were >> > living in Duloe with their son David in the 1841/1851 Census. Their >> > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in Bushmead married John WRENCH. (2) >> > Ann >> > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married Robert CASE in 1853 and migrated >> to >> > Australia with him and his young family in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn >> > 1817 >> > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they lived for some time in Eaton Socon >> > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby with daughter Ann. (4) David >> > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah PERKINS in 1849. (5) James >> > ELLIOTT >> > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn >> > Eaton >> > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon married >> > William CROW in 1841. >> > >> > I am particularly interested in identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who was >> > born >> > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT came from Rusden >> Northhamptonshire >> > in abt 1779. >> > >> > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann Elliott and would be very happy to >> share >> > my Australian research on the family of Robert and Ann CASE. >> > >> > Thank you for your assistance. >> > >> > Kind regards >> > >> > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz >> > >> > >> > >> > The List Guidelines >> > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: >> > 8/4/2008 >> > 8:09 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.1/1605 - Release Date: 8/11/2008 > 4:59 PM > > >

Thanks for your help Alan, Jim and Keith - consensus seams to be Sempstress (aka seamstress). A term I had not come across before. Cheers Kevin (England)

Now had a look at dictionary - Sempstress is another spelling for seamstress ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Foster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 9:27 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census > Could be "Sempstress" = seamstress, though otherwise the enumerator's > spelling looks pretty good! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Poile" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:57 PM > Subject: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Can somebody please have a look at the Occupation of Mary Bonner (age >> 39) on the 1871 census for Arlesey. The reference is: >> >> Class: RG10; Piece: 1550; Folio: 44; Page: 32 an Mary is a couple up >> from the bottom. >> >> When I tried reading it I got complete rubbish, so am hoping somebody >> has better luck reading the writing. >> >> For information her Maiden name was KINGHAM. >> >> Cheers >> >> Kevin (England) >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The enumerator was spot on. Sempstress is in my dictionary as an alternative word for seamstress. Keith Cook> From: [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 21:27:53 +0100> Subject: Re: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census> > Could be "Sempstress" = seamstress, though otherwise the enumerator's > spelling looks pretty good!> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Poile" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:57 PM> Subject: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census> > > > Hi Listers,> >> > Can somebody please have a look at the Occupation of Mary Bonner (age> > 39) on the 1871 census for Arlesey. The reference is:> >> > Class: RG10; Piece: 1550; Folio: 44; Page: 32 an Mary is a couple up> > from the bottom.> >> > When I tried reading it I got complete rubbish, so am hoping somebody> > has better luck reading the writing.> >> > For information her Maiden name was KINGHAM.> >> > Cheers> >> > Kevin (England)> >> >> >> > The List Guidelines> >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/> >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List> >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > > The List Guidelines> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/

Could be "Sempstress" = seamstress, though otherwise the enumerator's spelling looks pretty good! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Poile" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:57 PM Subject: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census > Hi Listers, > > Can somebody please have a look at the Occupation of Mary Bonner (age > 39) on the 1871 census for Arlesey. The reference is: > > Class: RG10; Piece: 1550; Folio: 44; Page: 32 an Mary is a couple up > from the bottom. > > When I tried reading it I got complete rubbish, so am hoping somebody > has better luck reading the writing. > > For information her Maiden name was KINGHAM. > > Cheers > > Kevin (England) > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Listers, Can somebody please have a look at the Occupation of Mary Bonner (age 39) on the 1871 census for Arlesey. The reference is: Class: RG10; Piece: 1550; Folio: 44; Page: 32 an Mary is a couple up from the bottom. When I tried reading it I got complete rubbish, so am hoping somebody has better luck reading the writing. For information her Maiden name was KINGHAM. Cheers Kevin (England)

Hi Jill Eve's Address [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Blain" <ji[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 6:29 AM Subject: [BDF] Query > Hi Folks, > > Where is everyone? There hasn't been any mail since I re-subscribed after > my holiday. > > Does anyone have Eve McLaughlin's e-mail address, please? I wanted to ask > her advice on something not connected with Bedford. > > Jill > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.7/1541 - Release Date: 7/8/2008 > 7:50 PM > > >

Hi, In doing many census transcriptions in the UK, I've found the spelling "sempstress" quite often instead of seamstress. Jim Bundy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Foster" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census > Could be "Sempstress" = seamstress, though otherwise the enumerator's > spelling looks pretty good! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kevin Poile" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2008 8:57 PM > Subject: [BDF] Occupation of Mary BONNER (nee KINGHAM) on 1871 Census > > >> Hi Listers, >> >> Can somebody please have a look at the Occupation of Mary Bonner (age >> 39) on the 1871 census for Arlesey. The reference is: >> >> Class: RG10; Piece: 1550; Folio: 44; Page: 32 an Mary is a couple up >> from the bottom. >> >> When I tried reading it I got complete rubbish, so am hoping somebody >> has better luck reading the writing. >> >> For information her Maiden name was KINGHAM. >> >> Cheers >> >> Kevin (England) >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the address. I had seen it in the archive, but didn't realise it was the Eve I was looking for! Jill

Hi Folks, Where is everyone? There hasn't been any mail since I re-subscribed after my holiday. Does anyone have Eve McLaughlin's e-mail address, please? I wanted to ask her advice on something not connected with Bedford. Jill

Know all Men by these presents that William Smith of the parish of Eaton Socon in the County of Bedford husbandman and James Woodward gr(?) of the parish of Northill in the said County of Bedford are held and firmly bound to Nicholas Livett grocer Thomas Wyles Yeoman Edward Pridmore Joyner and Nicholas Collins Yeoman Churchwarden and Overseer of the poor of the parish of Eaton Socon aforesaid in Forty pound of good and Lawful Money of Great Britain to be paid to the said Nicholas Livett Thomas Wyles Edward Pridmore and Nicholas Collins or their Certain Attorneys or Successors for the time being for the true payment whereof we bind our Selves our Heirs Extors and Admers Joyntly and Severally firmly by these presents Sealed with our Seals Dated the Thirteenth day of December in the Twenty Second Year of our Sovereign Lord King George the Second's Reign our Great Britain be and in the Year of our Lord 1748. The Condition of this Obligation of such that Whereas Elisabeth Brown hath lately Intruded herself into the parish of Eaton Socon and in there found to be with Child and such Child is like to be Born a Bastard and to be chargeable to the parish of Eaton Socon aforesaid. if Therefore the said William Smith and Thomas Woodward or either of them their or either of their Heirs Extors or Admers do from time to time and at all times hereafter Clearly and fully Acquit discharge and save Harmless as well the above named Nicholas Livett Thomas Wyles Edward Pridmore and Nicholas Collins Churchwardens and Overseers of the poor of the parish of Eaton Socon aforesaid and their Successors for the time being as also all the other Inhabitants and parishioners of the said parish of Eaton Socon which now are or hereafter shall be for the Time being and every of them of and from all and all manner of Costs Charges Trouble and Incumbrances whatsoever for or by reason of the Birth Education Maintenance Nourishing and bringing up of the said Child of and from all other Actions Suits Charges Troubles and Demands whatsoever Touching or Concerning the same Then this present Obligation to be Void and of none Effect or else to remain in full force Sealed and Delivered being first only Stamp'd in the presence of us Edward Pridmore the mark of Ann Smith Thomas Woodward William Smith

Hi, The list has been quiet - when in doubt - check the Mail List archive - http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/ENG/BEDFORD.html Cheers, Stella At 01:29 PM 16/08/2008, you wrote: >Hi Folks, > >Where is everyone? There hasn't been any mail since I re-subscribed >after my holiday. > >Does anyone have Eve McLaughlin's e-mail address, please? I wanted >to ask her advice on something not connected with Bedford. > >Jill > > > >The List Guidelines > >http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > >The Bedfordshire Surnames List > >http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello John, I am so very sorry it has taken me so long to reply. Thank you for this information, which I didn't know. Two of Mary and John Wrench's children, Thomas born in 1838 and Jacob born in 1846 came out to Australia. Thomas married Mary CASE in Maryborough Qld in 1867. Mary was the daughter of Robert CASE and his first wife Mary WARREN from Axminster. Robert's second wife was Ann ELLIOTT from Bushmead and Mary ELLIOTT's sister. Joseph married Isabella DAVIDSON in 1873 also in Maryborough. Isabella came from Lanarkshire. If you have additional information on the family I would be most grateful. Thanks again Kind regards Jan Peasnell On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 4:10 AM, john partridge < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello Jan > > Mary Wrench baptised 19/05/1839 Gt Staughton was 1st child of John Wrench & > Mary Elliott; & she married Joseph Partridge b 1838 Eaton Socon. > > Joseph Partridge was grandson to Jonathan Partridge b 1789 Bletsoe, Beds & > is the older brother to my gt-gt-grandfather > > John & Mary Wrench had 8 other children between 1836 & 1850. > > If you want more info let me know > > Regards > > John Partridge > Bedford > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janice Peasnell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:40 AM > Subject: [BDF] Elliott Family - Bushmead/Duloe/Eaton Socon > > > > Hello Listers, > > > > I am researching the family of John and Jane (Jemima) ELLIOTT who were > > living in Duloe with their son David in the 1841/1851 Census. Their > > children were (1) Mary, born 1810 in Bushmead married John WRENCH. (2) > > Ann > > ELLIOTT bn abt 1818 Bushmead - Married Robert CASE in 1853 and migrated > to > > Australia with him and his young family in 1854. (3) Lydia ELLIOTT bn > > 1817 > > Bushmead married John CHEETHAM, they lived for some time in Eaton Socon > > until John died and Lydia moved to Derby with daughter Ann. (4) David > > ELLIOTT bn 1824 Bushmead married Hannah PERKINS in 1849. (5) James > > ELLIOTT > > bn Eaton Socon who married Rebecca JAMES in 1841. (6) Sarah ELLIOTT bn > > Eaton > > Socon married John RUFF in 1839. Hannah ELLIOTT bn Eaton Socon married > > William CROW in 1841. > > > > I am particularly interested in identifying Jane/Jemima ELLIOTT who was > > born > > in Colmworth in abt 1871. John ELLIOTT came from Rusden > Northhamptonshire > > in abt 1779. > > > > I am the G/G/Granddaughter of Ann Elliott and would be very happy to > share > > my Australian research on the family of Robert and Ann CASE. > > > > Thank you for your assistance. > > > > Kind regards > > > > Jan Peasnell/Melbourne/Oz > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1590 - Release Date: 8/4/2008 > > 8:09 AM > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Could sks do this look up for me: Sarah HOATEN found in National Burial Index (Bedfordshire FHS) Bedfordshire during 1832 Many thanks Michelle Israel