Jan, My ancestors came from the same area, but the only Upton I have is the 1838 marriage of Sarah Upton to William Adams. And that's not much help, as it looks to be a second marriage for Sarah, so I'm not sure if Upton was here maiden name. I checked IGI, and while there were three Richard Upton born around the time, none was born exactly in 1794. There was also an earlier marriage in 1786 of a Richard and Sarah, but using a parent search I could find no children. I'd suggest you post some specific detail of what you know and see what the good people on the list can help with. They're a pretty clever lot. Peter in Sydney.

Hi Betty, I only have one DUDLEY appearing in my records - Eliza Dudley b Haynes (also known as Hawnes) c 1862. This is not very far from Marston and Lidlington and the date not too dissimilar to the probable birth of your James - so it may be worth a search of the Haynes [Hawnes] records and I do know from another branch of my tree that came from Haynes that they used the Wesleyan church in Ampthill. Hope these leads may help. Regret unable to search for you Dave V -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 16 September 2008 18:59 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BDF] James DUDLEY of Marston On 14 Sep 2008 at 10:16, Betty Lark wrote: > Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. Elizabeth > Mary Ann BOWLER. >From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was > born Marston, Bdf. (abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph 1878, > Annie 1880, James 1883, William 1888, Walter 1890, Gertrude 1891, > Charles 1895, Salome 1897. > > Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as he does > not appear in Marston. Remember baptism in church (or otherwise) was not compulsory and (from the Religious census of 1851) only about a third or so of the population actually attended any place of worship. In Beds, Methodism was strong, so was Baptist membership, in some places a lot stronger than the Church of England. The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.21/1674 - Release Date: 16/09/2008 08:15

Have recently subscribed to this list in hopes of finding more about Richard UPTON of Ampthill (born abt 1794) On the Bedfordshire Surnames list, I found that Hugh Pitfield has an interest in UPTONs of Flitwick, which I believe is only a stones throw from Ampthill. However, my e-mail to Hugh was returned with fatal error. If anyone has an up-to-date address for him, or indeed, if you are subscribed to this list Hugh, I would be very grateful to be able to get in touch. Also, if anyone has info on UPTONs in the area, I would be glad to swap info. many thanks, Jan White (Glastonbury, Somerset)

On 14 Sep 2008 at 10:16, Betty Lark wrote: > Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. Elizabeth > Mary Ann BOWLER. >From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was > born Marston, Bdf. (abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph 1878, > Annie 1880, James 1883, William 1888, Walter 1890, Gertrude 1891, > Charles 1895, Salome 1897. > > Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as he does > not appear in Marston. Remember baptism in church (or otherwise) was not compulsory and (from the Religious census of 1851) only about a third or so of the population actually attended any place of worship. In Beds, Methodism was strong, so was Baptist membership, in some places a lot stronger than the Church of England.

Hello Listers, I have been working on Azariah KENDAL(L) (wonderful name) & Sarah FORFEIT family they had 8 children who all survived to adult hood and every one married. The only one I can not find the name of the bride is John KENDAL(L) 1793-1838 mc1814 Sarah maiden name unknown they had 4 children between 1816 and 1825 and from the census I have found that Sarah KENDAL(L) was born c1791 Barton in the Clay and died Mch 1/4 1870 81yrs. Thanks for any help in advance. If anyone wants anything regards this KENDAL(L) family I am willing to share. Regards Betty Lark Richmond, Nelson, NZ

Hello David & Bev Thank you so much for taking the time to look items up for me it is much appreciated and what you have done is a great help thanks very much. Regards Betty Richmond, Nelson, NZ

For the last year I have been researching the MEDLOW family from Little Staughton/Swineshead/Colmworth etc. I am wondering if there is anyone out there who may be a relative of THOMAS MEDLOW, baptised in Little Staughton August 1820. Thomas is the twin son of Samuel Medlow and Elizabeth Stewart. He was in the 1841 Census at Standground as an Ind. After that he disappears. I now know that he migrated to America, probably between the 1841 and 1851 Census. Thomas Medlow is the missing link now in my Family Tree of the Medlow's in England, and would be pleased to hear from anyone who knows of this Thomas. Thanks Avril Dalby in Australia

Until you raised the question that is what I believed. I've since gone back to the 2 databases I've created from 2 readings of the Parish Registers, but I haven't yet been able to check my original notes. There's no change with the dates. The first shows James baptised to Joseph & Ann Dudley. The second shows George James baptised to William & Jane Dudley. I also have a note that the child's name was entered first as Joseph & this was crossed out & George then entered. (easily explained if the vicar was thinking of the father's name.) I'll need to reread the register again to confirm who the parents really are. (I can see a neat fit if the parents were William & Jane.) If anyone happens to be reading this register, it's entry number is 1235. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] James DUDLEY of Marston > So the James Dudley that you referring to, baptised 25 November 1855, is > the > same as the George James Dudley on the IGI, extracted, baptised 25 Nov > 1855? > > David > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:43 AM, bev bonning <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> James Dudley was born to Joseph Dudley and Ann Parrott who married in >> Marston Moretaine 25 Nov 1855. >> James was baptised in Marston Moretaine 25 Nov 1855, but the Parish >> Register >> gives his birth as July 23. >> In 1851 Ann Parrott and her son Joseph were lodging with John Dudley & >> his >> son Joseph whom she married a year after John Dudley's death. >> Joseph Parrot was baptised in Marston 2 Jul 1848 (IGI). >> In 1861 and 1871 Censuses, Joseph becomes Joseph Dudley, so it's possible >> he >> was really the son of Joseph who married Ann Parrott. >> >> Bev >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Betty Lark" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:16 AM >> Subject: [BDF] James DUDLEY of Marston >> >> >> > Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. Elizabeth >> > Mary Ann BOWLER. >> >>From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was born Marston, Bdf. >> >>(abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph 1878, Annie 1880, James >> 1883, >> >>William 1888, Walter 1890, Gertrude 1891, Charles 1895, Salome 1897. >> > >> > Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as he does not >> > appear in Marston. Thanks for any help in this matter. >> > >> > Betty >> > Richmond, Nelson, NZ >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear David, Many thanks for your enquiry I am looking for information on the death of Elizabeth's Baxter and Abbis, there are two grandchildren mentioned in 1851 census but who are the parents? I have been limited on census of some of the children from both marriages. David Payne mother I. Abbess I have some information on. I suppose what I am hoping for is a relation with of one of the siblings of Thomas and Elizabeth's ox 2. or descendants on the either sides. Regards, Karen (Australia) ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 7:09 PM Subject: [BDF] Re : Thomas Payne Henlow What information do you have, to save possible duplication of effort? Do you have the family in censuses? Are you looking for details of his baptism, parents etc, or just descendants? David --- En date de : Dim 14.9.08, Karen Longmore <[email protected]> a écrit : > De: Karen Longmore <[email protected]> > Objet: [BDF] Thomas Payne Henlow > À: [email protected] > Date: Dimanche 14 Septembre 2008, 9h01 > I am searching for descendants of the families of Thomas > Payne b abt 1816 > Henlow who married Elizabeth Baxter 1839 and then > Elizabeth Abbis in 1864. > Any information on this family would be appreciated. > Many thanks > Karen Australia > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

James Dudley was born to Joseph Dudley and Ann Parrott who married in Marston Moretaine 25 Nov 1855. James was baptised in Marston Moretaine 25 Nov 1855, but the Parish Register gives his birth as July 23. In 1851 Ann Parrott and her son Joseph were lodging with John Dudley & his son Joseph whom she married a year after John Dudley's death. Joseph Parrot was baptised in Marston 2 Jul 1848 (IGI). In 1861 and 1871 Censuses, Joseph becomes Joseph Dudley, so it's possible he was really the son of Joseph who married Ann Parrott. Bev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Lark" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:16 AM Subject: [BDF] James DUDLEY of Marston > Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. Elizabeth > Mary Ann BOWLER. >>From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was born Marston, Bdf. >>(abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph 1878, Annie 1880, James 1883, >>William 1888, Walter 1890, Gertrude 1891, Charles 1895, Salome 1897. > > Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as he does not > appear in Marston. Thanks for any help in this matter. > > Betty > Richmond, Nelson, NZ

I am searching for descendants of the families of Thomas Payne b abt 1816 Henlow who married Elizabeth Baxter 1839 and then Elizabeth Abbis in 1864. Any information on this family would be appreciated. Many thanks Karen Australia

So the James Dudley that you referring to, baptised 25 November 1855, is the same as the George James Dudley on the IGI, extracted, baptised 25 Nov 1855? David On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:43 AM, bev bonning <[email protected]> wrote: > James Dudley was born to Joseph Dudley and Ann Parrott who married in > Marston Moretaine 25 Nov 1855. > James was baptised in Marston Moretaine 25 Nov 1855, but the Parish > Register > gives his birth as July 23. > In 1851 Ann Parrott and her son Joseph were lodging with John Dudley & his > son Joseph whom she married a year after John Dudley's death. > Joseph Parrot was baptised in Marston 2 Jul 1848 (IGI). > In 1861 and 1871 Censuses, Joseph becomes Joseph Dudley, so it's possible > he > was really the son of Joseph who married Ann Parrott. > > Bev > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Lark" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 8:16 AM > Subject: [BDF] James DUDLEY of Marston > > > > Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. Elizabeth > > Mary Ann BOWLER. > >>From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was born Marston, Bdf. > >>(abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph 1878, Annie 1880, James > 1883, > >>William 1888, Walter 1890, Gertrude 1891, Charles 1895, Salome 1897. > > > > Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as he does not > > appear in Marston. Thanks for any help in this matter. > > > > Betty > > Richmond, Nelson, NZ > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedford.html> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

His first wife Elizabeth, born Gamlingay Cambs, appears with Thomas in the 1861 census, and the 1871 shows his second wife Elizabeth born Wellhead, just outside Hitchin, Herts. There's only one burial of an Elizabeth Payne/Pain(e) in Beds 1861-5 - Dec quarter 1863 in Biggleswade registration district, in which both Henlow and Clifton lie, which would fit with a remarriage to Elizabeth 2 in 1864. Thomas and Elizabeth were both alive in 1901, still living in Clifton, where they'd appeared in all censuses from 1871. http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl shows an Elizabeth age 82 dying in the June quarter 1921 in Biggleswade registration district, which may be here. The only other family members with Thomas and Elizabeth in 1851 were sons George 10, William 8; Charles 2; Thomas 9 mths. No mention of any grandchildren??? Thomas appears to have been one of three children of William and Mary baptised on 27 Sept 1821; William age 6, Mary age 2 and Thomas. Up to 1901 his birth was pretty consistently 1820/1, although he aged badly in 1901 when he gave 84 as his age. 1816 seems to be too early. David --- En date de : Dim 14.9.08, Karen Longmore <[email protected]> a écrit : > De: Karen Longmore <[email protected]> > Objet: Re: [BDF] Re : Thomas Payne Henlow > À: [email protected], [email protected] > Date: Dimanche 14 Septembre 2008, 11h33 > Dear David, > Many thanks for your enquiry I am looking for information > on the death of > Elizabeth's Baxter and Abbis, there are two > grandchildren mentioned in 1851 > census but who are the parents? I have been limited on > census of some of > the children from both marriages. David Payne mother I. > Abbess I have some > information on. I suppose what I am hoping for is a > relation with of one of > the siblings of Thomas and Elizabeth's ox 2. or > descendants on the either > sides. > > Regards, > > Karen (Australia) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 7:09 PM > Subject: [BDF] Re : Thomas Payne Henlow > > > What information do you have, to save possible duplication > of effort? > > Do you have the family in censuses? > > Are you looking for details of his baptism, parents etc, or > just > descendants? > > David > > > --- En date de : Dim 14.9.08, Karen Longmore > <[email protected]> a > écrit : > > > De: Karen Longmore <[email protected]> > > Objet: [BDF] Thomas Payne Henlow > > À: [email protected] > > Date: Dimanche 14 Septembre 2008, 9h01 > > I am searching for descendants of the families of > Thomas > > Payne b abt 1816 > > Henlow who married Elizabeth Baxter 1839 and then > > Elizabeth Abbis in 1864. > > Any information on this family would be appreciated. > > Many thanks > > Karen Australia > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. Elizabeth Mary Ann BOWLER. >From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was born Marston, Bdf. (abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph 1878, Annie 1880, James 1883, William 1888, Walter 1890, Gertrude 1891, Charles 1895, Salome 1897. Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as he does not appear in Marston. Thanks for any help in this matter. Betty Richmond, Nelson, NZ

What information do you have, to save possible duplication of effort? Do you have the family in censuses? Are you looking for details of his baptism, parents etc, or just descendants? David --- En date de : Dim 14.9.08, Karen Longmore <[email protected]> a écrit : > De: Karen Longmore <[email protected]> > Objet: [BDF] Thomas Payne Henlow > À: [email protected] > Date: Dimanche 14 Septembre 2008, 9h01 > I am searching for descendants of the families of Thomas > Payne b abt 1816 > Henlow who married Elizabeth Baxter 1839 and then > Elizabeth Abbis in 1864. > Any information on this family would be appreciated. > Many thanks > Karen Australia > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I have tried to email Jim Bundy about the Waller line but the email came back. Wonder if the Waller line of that area is connected to Lincolnshire Waller/Whaler. Seeking reasons why Ann Lilley of Stotfold (rel to Waller as one of her daughters married one ) might have married at Stotfold to Nathaniel Bellamy of Ingoldmells, Lincs. Anne in Western Australia

1861 census shows a James Dudley aged 8 in Marston, son of Joseph and Ann. IGI has a George James Dudley son of Joseph and Ann baptism in 1855 which might be him. This is the only child of Joseph and Ann who appears on the IGI yet there is another son, Joseph 15, living with them in 1861. Perhaps they were none too scrupulous about baptising their children. David --- En date de : Dim 14.9.08, Betty Lark <[email protected]> a écrit : > De: Betty Lark <[email protected]> > Objet: [BDF] James DUDLEY of Marston > À: [email protected] > Date: Dimanche 14 Septembre 2008, 0h16 > Hello Listers, James DUDLEY m.31 Aug. 1877 Lidlington, Bdf. > Elizabeth Mary Ann BOWLER. > >From the 1881/1901 Census it says James DUDLEY was born > Marston, Bdf. (abt.1853) this couple had 8 children Joseph > 1878, Annie 1880, James 1883, William 1888, Walter 1890, > Gertrude 1891, Charles 1895, Salome 1897. > > Please can anyone advise where James DUDLEY was baptised as > he does not appear in Marston. Thanks for any help in this > matter. > > Betty > Richmond, Nelson, NZ > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Anne, Sorry your email to me bounced, but also I don't have any more info than what I presented to the list. Hope you find yours. Jim Bundy ----- Original Message ----- From: "bussanich" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 5:54 PM Subject: [BDF] Waller at Eacon Socon >I have tried to email Jim Bundy about the Waller line but the email came >back. > > Wonder if the Waller line of that area is connected to Lincolnshire > Waller/Whaler. Seeking reasons why Ann Lilley of Stotfold (rel to Waller > as one of her daughters married one ) might have married at Stotfold to > Nathaniel Bellamy of Ingoldmells, Lincs. > > Anne in Western Australia > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedford.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Know all Men by these presents that I John Dearmer of Honeydon in the Parish of Eaton Socon in the County of Bedford Yeoman am held and firmly bound to William Law of Eaton Socon aforesaid Grocer and William Brown of Wyboston in the said Parish of Eaton Socon Yeoman Churchwardens and James Crow James Sykes and John Hipweck Overseers of the Poor of the Parish aforesaid in or by Pounds of Lawful money of Great Britain to be paid to the said Churchwardens and Overseers or their certain Attorney Successors or Assigns firmly by these Presents Sealed with my Seal Dated the twelfth day of March of the Year of our Lord 1761 Whereas Sarah White of the Parish of Eaton Socon aforesaid Single woman was lately delivered of a Male Bastard child within the said Parish of Eaton Socon which said Bastard Child may become chargeable to the said Parish and whereas the above bound John Dearmer doth own and Confess himself to be the Father of the said Bastard Child. Now the condition of the above written Obligation is such that if the above bound John Dearmer his Heirs Extors or Admors do from time to time and at all times hereafter fully and Clearly Acquit Exonerate and discharge or otherwise well and Sufficiently save harmless and Indemnified as well the above named Churchwardens and Overseers and their Successors for the time being and every of them as also all the Inhabitants and Parishioners of the said Parish of Eaton Socon which now are or hereafter shall be for the time being, and every of them of and from all manner of Expences Damages Costs Charges and Incumberances whatsoever which shall or may in ant manner or at any time hereafter arive happen occur grow or be Imposed upon them or any or either of them for or by reason of the birth Maintenance Education or bringing up of the said Child and of & from all Actions Suits Charges Troubles Damages and Demands whatsoever touching or concerning the same Then the above obligation to be Void Sealed and Delivered in the Presence of us John Allday John Waller Jun John Dearmer his Mark

Hi Carol, could I have a copy in Microsoft word please. Thank you Jackie [email protected]