Thank you for your replies. Daniel left N.Z in 1900 he appears in the 1901 cencus as a widower in a boarding house. living on Pte means. He was born at chipping north son of Augustine and Rebecca I have confirmed all this. He left behind 9 children the youngest 5yrs old. Why I mention the money is that after maybe Emma death some money was sent back to the children after advertising in N Z for the children. Decendents alive today were only children when the money arrived but it made a big difference to their lives.What they want to find out was who sent it.If I can find Emmas death it may help in newspaper research.The descendants are in their 80's and has approached our society to find out. I have spent 2 years tracking and getting certificates etc but have come to a stand srtill with Emma Any help would be great. Cheers Maureen Carterton Historical Society

Could s.k.s help with this family Daniel ward Cross born 1852 oxford married (bigamist wife and family in New Zealand) Emma Geary born 1871northchurch lived at 5 Dudley st bedford in the 1911 cencus. They moved to Leamington Spa ?where Daniel died in 1930 I cannot find a death for emma. He was a retired store keeper. Did he have a store in Bedford?He was retired in the 1911 cencus at 59 When did English pension start? What was he living on?He did not send any money back to his New Zealand family nor did he ever contact them Any help would be appreciated Many thanks Maureen

Maureen, You don't say when Daniel returned from NZ, when he married Emma or if you've looked at 1901 census. All these would provide vital clues. If he wasn't in 1901 census, you'd probably need trade or post office directories c1901-1911 to find the store. But you don't know a location. Look at FreeBMD and 1901 census site to get extra data. Emma would be 59 when Daniel died. She could remarry. While FreeBMD stops around 1930, Ancestry provides data up to 2006. Peter

Do you know when the money was sent to the children in NZ? --- En date de : Sam 14.11.09, m.leach@xtra.co.nz <m.leach@xtra.co.nz> a écrit : > De: m.leach@xtra.co.nz <m.leach@xtra.co.nz> > Objet: [BDF] daniel ward cross > À: bedford@rootsweb.com > Date: Samedi 14 Novembre 2009, 9h39 > Thank you for your replies. > Daniel left N.Z in 1900 he appears in the 1901 cencus > as a widower in a boarding house.   living > on Pte means. He was born at chipping north son of Augustine > and Rebecca I have confirmed all this. > He left behind 9 children  the youngest 5yrs old. > Why I mention the money is that after maybe Emma death some > money was sent back to the children after  advertising > in N Z for the children. Decendents alive today were only > children when the money arrived but it made a big difference > to their lives.What they want to find out was who sent it.If > I can find Emmas death it may help in newspaper research.The > descendants are in their 80's and has approached our society > to find out. I have spent 2 years tracking and getting > certificates etc but have come to a stand srtill with Emma > > Any help would be great. > Cheers > Maureen > Carterton Historical Society > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

> Hi Maureen > > I only find an Oxfordshire born Daniel CROSS in 1861 & 1871 in England > > The English pension started in 1908 for 70 year olds and was heavily > means tested The recipient's income at first had to be below £23 a year - I agree he was not very likely to have qualified. In any case, the pension records are not currently accessible. > > If he was retired at 59 he most likely had either money in the bank or > property and was living off the income from that > >

Hi Maureen I only find an Oxfordshire born Daniel CROSS in 1861 & 1871 in England The English pension started in 1908 for 70 year olds and was heavily means tested If he was retired at 59 he most likely had either money in the bank or property and was living off the income from that I am not sure why you would think he would send money back to New Zealand ? If he did not contact them you can only assume he didn't want to, what makes you think he should have done Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > Could s.k.s help with this family > Daniel ward Cross born 1852 oxford married (bigamist wife and family in > New Zealand) Emma Geary born 1871northchurch lived at 5 Dudley st bedford > in the 1911 cencus. They moved to Leamington Spa ?where Daniel died in > 1930 I cannot find a death for emma. He was a retired store keeper. Did > he have a store in Bedford?He was retired in the 1911 cencus at 59 When > did English pension start? What was he living on?He did not send any money > back to his New Zealand family nor did he ever contact them > Any help would be appreciated > Many thanks > Maureen

Hi Peter, I have tried a Mary Ann Darlow to a John DARRINGTON in all England and Wales. None comes up. I tried a Brace marrying a Darlow none in the time line. Only one that comes up is Mary Ann BRACE. We sent for the 1911 census and she was 49 years old which would tie in with the 1861 birth. bn in Chawston Roxton, she said she was still married living in Chelmsford Middlesex, but haven't found John yet. He may have gone away for a while or still in Kent. The Mary Ann you found bn 3.3.1861 was she bn in or near Chawston? Thanks for your wonderful help. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Jarman" <p.jarman@ntlworld.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > Hi Barbara > > John William Darrington and Mary Ann Brace married in Dec quarter of 1882 > (Bedford 3b 780 is the GRO ref no) > > This is just outside the Roxton marriages in the IGI list, unless someone > will kindly do a look up for us at Bedford County Hall. > > Three Mary Brace's! - Mary Ann 3/3/61, Mary Hanes 2/3/62, Mary Ellen > 3/9/66 > so we need to be sure which one > > Stephen's list has Mary Ann Darlow > > I have realised that we will actually be distantly related. > > Peter Jarman > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Barb & Dusty Miller > Sent: 11 November 2009 02:05 > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > > Hi Peter, > Is Mary [Mary Ann BRACE?] > Barbara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Jarman" <p.jarman@ntlworld.com> > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:29 PM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > > >> Peter >> >> Thanks for putting up that link to the Darrington tree. Its possible the >> Mary Darrington in there is my 5x great grandmother, looks likely anyway. >> What a find! >> >> Peter Jarman >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of Peter Booth >> Sent: 09 November 2009 00:30 >> To: bedford@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton >> >> Barbara, >> >> Stephen McDonald in Canada has traced the family back to around 1550 >> and >> >> posted the Family Tree at Rootsweb. See >> >> > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mcdonald_lewistn&i >> d=I01664 I always advise double checking, as you never know the >> quality >> of theresearch, but this looks pretty good. You should also find a number >> of >> othersubmitted trees for the family at Rootsweb. 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Thanks again, its getting too hard !!!! regards Josie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:49 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Butterfields > Josie, > > You've possibly been too restrictive with your searches for these women > by specifying Bedfordshire. Both look to have come from just across the > border in Hertfordshire. > > There are user submissions for three Agnes Sam christenings in Pirton, > Herts. They're probably all cousins, (for when your checking her > ancestors) > but I suspect the last one is her, making her father John. Depending in > the > age she was when christened, she's around 15 or 16 when married. > > One thing to remember, is that marriages usually occurred in the parish > of the bride. So when you see George Butterfield married Joan Hurst in > 1630 > in Lilley, Herts, the "light goes on". Then when you look nearby in > Hertfordshire, you see she was christened in 1610 at Sandridge to father > Thomas. > > So that should get you started. Remember to check all the batches for > Lilley, Sandridge, Pirton etc to look for other family members and > relatives. > > Peter > > PS!! Google maps is always handy to use > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi John, thanks for your help. regards Josie ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Partridge" <john.partridge10@ntlworld.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Butterfields > Hello, The Agn Sam could be one of the 3 Agnes Sams baptised 1571/1572 & > 1589 in Pirton, Herts - but 2 did marry there in 1616 / 1622 > > If the Shillington PR could be checked the marriage entry may state if she > came from Pirton > > Pirton is just down the road, across the border from Shillington. > > Regards John > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Goolwa Time & Jewellery" <rodjosie@bigpond.net.au> > To: <BEDFORD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:42 AM > Subject: [BDF] Butterfields > > >> Hi can anyone help me i am looking for a father and son. >> Som..George BUTTERFIELD,bapt 5 Aug 1604,Shilling Bedford, >> his wife a Joan(e) HURST. >> And George Butterfield,bapt 26 aug 1582,Pulloxhill Bedford,married >> Agn Sam also in Shillington. >> I am looking for info on the wives and their families. >> also any children from these 2 marriages. >> >> thanks and regards >> Josie >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.424 / Virus Database: 270.14.49/2480 - Release Date: 11/04/09 > 07:37:00 > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Peter I had know about this,but forgotten now i have book marked. regards Josie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Butterfields > Josie, > > Are you familiar with batch searching? > > One way to do it is to find the christening of George and click on the > batch number. When it goes back to the search screen, just search on the > surname Butterfield. If you look into each result, you will find that all > except the very bottom one has a father John. So, it's a reasonable > assumption that George had 13 siblings. > > A better way is to use the Hugh Wallis Batch site > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatchNumbers.htm#Menu > ( if you ever forget just Google Hugh Wallis) > > This shows all batch records by County / Town / Era. So you can see if > any records are available for Shillington, the period the cover and which > batch they're in. Then just click on the batch number and search by > surname > alone (or other single criteria). > > For parents searches, leave first name and last name blank and just > complete father's given name and surname, mother's given name and event, > date and region as required. > > Unfortunately, these early records only had father's name so parent > search won't work here, but is an essential tool for researchers. > > Pulloxhill christenings go from 1553-1875. Marriage go from 1571-1812. > Shillington covers a similar period but Butterfield records only start > with > George's marriage. > > It will take an hour or more to complete and follow up subsequent > events. If you get stuck, post another message. But it's a good learning > experience. > > Peter in Sydney > > > > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have looked in his site, Very interesting. I have been in touch with him and given him some information he did not have. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Booth" <pbo08596@bigpond.net.au> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > Barbara, > > Stephen McDonald in Canada has traced the family back to around 1550 > and > posted the Family Tree at Rootsweb. See > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mcdonald_lewistn&id=I01664 > I always advise double checking, as you never know the quality of > theresearch, but this looks pretty good. You should also find a number of > othersubmitted trees for the family at Rootsweb. Peter > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5865 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Thank you David Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@gmail.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > If he was 36 in 1901 doesn't that imply a birth in 1865, not 1855? If you > check the IGI at www.familysearch.org there's a baptism of John William > Darrington on 29 Oct 1865 at Roxton, son of William & Hannah > > There's also a birth of John Darrington registered in Bedford registration > district in the Dec quarter 1865 on www.freebmd.org.uk > > David > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Barb & Dusty Miller > <bardus@xtra.co.nz>wrote: > >> Hi List, >> We have parents of our Doris Elizabeth DARRINGTON bn Sept qrt 1897 >> Bromley >> Kent d/o John & Mary A DARRINGTON >> >> 1901 census has Jn age 36 Police Constable bn Roxton Beds with wife Mary >> Ann >> age 29 or 39 bn Roxton Beds >> With 2 brothers >> Thomas DARRINGTON age 32 bn Roxton Beds occ General Lab >> Joseph DARRINGTON age 29 bn Roxton Beds occ Bricklayers Lab >> >> I can not find any John DARRINGTON's in births between 1854-1856 Bedford >> I have found 2 possible marriages >> Both reg in Bedford Beds >> John DARRINTON marr Dec qrt 1857 to a Mary HIGHT >> Jhn Wm DARRINGTON marr 1882 to Mary Ann BRACE >> >> Does anyone have this family in their tree that could help? >> >> Barbara & Nicole >> bardus@xtra.co.nz >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 5861 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: >> http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5865 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Thank you David, I have put this in her notes so I don't get way laid again. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <david11000carca@gmail.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Re Daniels & Slatcherand Keep > Hi Barbara > > I know it looks to be a likely match; the name's right, the date looks > right, but Martha Daniels baptised 1771 at Southill wasn't the one who > married Enoch Keep. She married Joseph Crossley in Southill in 1795. As > Bev > mentioned, the 1791 Marston Moretaine marriage entry shows she was otp, > not > of the parish of Southill. > > The Daniels burials in Marston Moretaine, that Bev found, look to be > worthy > of further investigation as being possible parents of Martha > > David > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 2:44 AM, Barb & Dusty Miller > <bardus@xtra.co.nz>wrote: > >> Hi Bev, >> >> Have some info for you, >> >> The Martha who needed assistance in 1830 was Martha KEEP nee BURRIDGE >> wife >> of Joel KEEP who died 6 Oct 1830 in Marston Mortaine. >> They married 7 Jun 1824 had 2 children that I know of. >> Wm KEEP bn abt 1824 and Mary Ann KEEP bn abt 1829 >> >> Martha DANIELS bpt was 29 Sept 1771 Southill marr Enoch 30 Nov 1791 >> Marston >> Mortaine. >> Barbara >> bardus@xtra.co.nz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bev bonning" <kosan@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com>; <bedford-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [BDF] Re Daniels & Slatcherand Keep >> >> >> > Hello to all following this thread >> > >> > The burial date for Martha (Daniels) Keep in Marston Moretaine 3 May >> > 1835 >> > is >> > supported by the following: >> > 11 Apr 1835 Enoch was paid One Shilling for his wife being ill. >> > 30 Apr 1835 Enoch was paid Three Shillings for the woman who attended >> > his >> > wife's corpse. >> > >> > Enoch received regular payments from the Overseers of the Poor Accounts >> > from >> > 1829. There are many entries for Keep during this period. I wonder who >> was >> > the Martha Keep who was receiving assistance (as a widow) in 1830?? >> > >> > Enoch Keep was baptised in Marston 31 Oct 1767 (PR entry). The burial >> > in >> > 1835 suggests Martha was also born about the same time, but I haven't >> > found >> > a baptism for her. (Perhaps this is just the result of some sloppy >> > record >> > keeping at the time.) >> > >> > There are baptism entries for 8 children for Enoch and Martha; in >> addition >> > there are burials for 4 other children named as children of Enoch and >> > Martha. They were Ruth, William, Faith and Fanny. There are no baptisms >> > for >> > them in Marston. Either they were baptised elsewhere or sloppy record >> > keeping?? >> > >> > Sadly there are no clues about Martha's parish in the marriage entry. >> > >> > I've had a quick look for Daniels in the NBI. Of interest are 3 burials >> in >> > Marston: Thomas buried in 1800 aged 58, Peace buried 1787, and Mary in >> > 1791. >> > Enoch & Martha Keep had a Peace in 1814; she lived 2 days, and I >> > suspect >> > she >> > could have been the daughter of Mary Ann Keep who died in March 1814, >> aged >> > 17. (Other burials were in Maulden, Wilstead, Sandy, Thurleigh, Woburn, >> > Biggleswade, Potton, Stanbridge, Dunstable, but I was looking only for >> > those >> > born pre 1800.) >> > >> > Thanks to David for his input about the Martha Daniels born in >> > Southill. >> > That certainly saves me from considering her as the Martha who married >> > Enoch >> > Keep. >> > >> > Bev >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > The List Guidelines >> > >> > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> > >> > The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> > >> > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 5862 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: >> http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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Thanks Bev, I agree that Martha needs more research. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "bev bonning" <kosan@optusnet.com.au> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Re Daniels & Slatcherand Keep > Thanks Barbara for working out that Martha Keep question. > She was buried 1 Apr 1838 aged 34, and the daughter Mary Ann was buried 10 > Jun 1838 in Marston. Not sure where Martha (Burridge) Keep comes from. I > haven't found a baptism yet. > > I don't know who started the claim that Enoch's Martha Daniels is the one > from Southill. David's research suggests otherwise. Even the IGI has an > extracted marriage for the Southill Martha Daniels to Joseph Crossley. I > think we all need to abandon that theory and look further for Martha > Daniels' place of origin and her parentage (if that still exists). Good > luck. > > Bev > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb & Dusty Miller" <bardus@xtra.co.nz> > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:44 AM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Re Daniels & Slatcherand Keep > > >> Hi Bev, >> >> Have some info for you, >> >> The Martha who needed assistance in 1830 was Martha KEEP nee BURRIDGE >> wife >> of Joel KEEP who died 6 Oct 1830 in Marston Mortaine. >> They married 7 Jun 1824 had 2 children that I know of. >> Wm KEEP bn abt 1824 and Mary Ann KEEP bn abt 1829 >> >> Martha DANIELS bpt was 29 Sept 1771 Southill marr Enoch 30 Nov 1791 >> Marston >> Mortaine. >> Barbara >> bardus@xtra.co.nz >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bev bonning" <kosan@optusnet.com.au> >> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com>; <bedford-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2009 9:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [BDF] Re Daniels & Slatcherand Keep >> >> >>> Hello to all following this thread >>> >>> The burial date for Martha (Daniels) Keep in Marston Moretaine 3 May >>> 1835 >>> is >>> supported by the following: >>> 11 Apr 1835 Enoch was paid One Shilling for his wife being ill. >>> 30 Apr 1835 Enoch was paid Three Shillings for the woman who attended >>> his >>> wife's corpse. >>> >>> Enoch received regular payments from the Overseers of the Poor Accounts >>> from >>> 1829. There are many entries for Keep during this period. I wonder who >>> was >>> the Martha Keep who was receiving assistance (as a widow) in 1830?? >>> >>> Enoch Keep was baptised in Marston 31 Oct 1767 (PR entry). The burial in >>> 1835 suggests Martha was also born about the same time, but I haven't >>> found >>> a baptism for her. (Perhaps this is just the result of some sloppy >>> record >>> keeping at the time.) >>> >>> There are baptism entries for 8 children for Enoch and Martha; in >>> addition >>> there are burials for 4 other children named as children of Enoch and >>> Martha. They were Ruth, William, Faith and Fanny. There are no baptisms >>> for >>> them in Marston. Either they were baptised elsewhere or sloppy record >>> keeping?? >>> >>> Sadly there are no clues about Martha's parish in the marriage entry. >>> >>> I've had a quick look for Daniels in the NBI. Of interest are 3 burials >>> in >>> Marston: Thomas buried in 1800 aged 58, Peace buried 1787, and Mary in >>> 1791. >>> Enoch & Martha Keep had a Peace in 1814; she lived 2 days, and I suspect >>> she >>> could have been the daughter of Mary Ann Keep who died in March 1814, >>> aged >>> 17. (Other burials were in Maulden, Wilstead, Sandy, Thurleigh, Woburn, >>> Biggleswade, Potton, Stanbridge, Dunstable, but I was looking only for >>> those >>> born pre 1800.) >>> >>> Thanks to David for his input about the Martha Daniels born in Southill. >>> That certainly saves me from considering her as the Martha who married >>> Enoch >>> Keep. >>> >>> Bev >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >>> >>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 5862 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: >> http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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Hi Peter, Is Mary [Mary Ann BRACE?] Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Jarman" <p.jarman@ntlworld.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > Peter > > Thanks for putting up that link to the Darrington tree. Its possible the > Mary Darrington in there is my 5x great grandmother, looks likely anyway. > What a find! > > Peter Jarman > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Peter Booth > Sent: 09 November 2009 00:30 > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > > Barbara, > > Stephen McDonald in Canada has traced the family back to around 1550 > and > > posted the Family Tree at Rootsweb. See > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mcdonald_lewistn&i > d=I01664 I always advise double checking, as you never know the quality > of theresearch, but this looks pretty good. You should also find a number > of > othersubmitted trees for the family at Rootsweb. Peter > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 > 07:37:00 > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5865 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Thank you John, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Partridge" <john.partridge10@ntlworld.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 9:31 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > Good morning; > > There is a James Dorrington age 18 listed on the ship Catherine that left > England in 1851 to go to South Australia. On same voyage are a few others > from Bedford that were all in the Bedford Union workhouse up to the point > of > departure. Seems they are all emigrating on assisted passages arranged by > the wotkhouse. > > In the workhouse Indoor Relief ledger for that period it has a Jonas > Darrringtion paid for out of the common fund. > I think he is son of John & Sarah Darrington of Roxton. > > Regards John > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David" <david11000carca@gmail.com> > To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 2:27 AM > Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > > >> If he was 36 in 1901 doesn't that imply a birth in 1865, not 1855? If you >> check the IGI at www.familysearch.org there's a baptism of John William >> Darrington on 29 Oct 1865 at Roxton, son of William & Hannah >> >> There's also a birth of John Darrington registered in Bedford >> registration >> district in the Dec quarter 1865 on www.freebmd.org.uk >> >> David >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:43 PM, Barb & Dusty Miller >> <bardus@xtra.co.nz>wrote: >> >>> Hi List, >>> We have parents of our Doris Elizabeth DARRINGTON bn Sept qrt 1897 >>> Bromley >>> Kent d/o John & Mary A DARRINGTON >>> >>> 1901 census has Jn age 36 Police Constable bn Roxton Beds with wife Mary >>> Ann >>> age 29 or 39 bn Roxton Beds >>> With 2 brothers >>> Thomas DARRINGTON age 32 bn Roxton Beds occ General Lab >>> Joseph DARRINGTON age 29 bn Roxton Beds occ Bricklayers Lab >>> >>> I can not find any John DARRINGTON's in births between 1854-1856 Bedford >>> I have found 2 possible marriages >>> Both reg in Bedford Beds >>> John DARRINTON marr Dec qrt 1857 to a Mary HIGHT >>> Jhn Wm DARRINGTON marr 1882 to Mary Ann BRACE >>> >>> Does anyone have this family in their tree that could help? >>> >>> Barbara & Nicole >>> bardus@xtra.co.nz >>> >>> >>> -- >>> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >>> It has removed 5861 spam emails to date. >>> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >>> Get the free SPAMfighter here: >>> http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The List Guidelines >>> >>> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >>> >>> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html<http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/%7Ehughw/bedf.html> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.54/2488 - Release Date: 11/07/09 > 23:52:00 > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5865 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Hi Barbara John William Darrington and Mary Ann Brace married in Dec quarter of 1882 (Bedford 3b 780 is the GRO ref no) This is just outside the Roxton marriages in the IGI list, unless someone will kindly do a look up for us at Bedford County Hall. Three Mary Brace's! - Mary Ann 3/3/61, Mary Hanes 2/3/62, Mary Ellen 3/9/66 so we need to be sure which one Stephen's list has Mary Ann Darlow I have realised that we will actually be distantly related. Peter Jarman -----Original Message----- From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barb & Dusty Miller Sent: 11 November 2009 02:05 To: bedford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton Hi Peter, Is Mary [Mary Ann BRACE?] Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Jarman" <p.jarman@ntlworld.com> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > Peter > > Thanks for putting up that link to the Darrington tree. Its possible the > Mary Darrington in there is my 5x great grandmother, looks likely anyway. > What a find! > > Peter Jarman > > -----Original Message----- > From: bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:bedford-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Peter Booth > Sent: 09 November 2009 00:30 > To: bedford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > > Barbara, > > Stephen McDonald in Canada has traced the family back to around 1550 > and > > posted the Family Tree at Rootsweb. See > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mcdonald_lewistn&i > d=I01664 I always advise double checking, as you never know the quality > of theresearch, but this looks pretty good. You should also find a number > of > othersubmitted trees for the family at Rootsweb. Peter > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 > 07:37:00 > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5865 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html The List Guidelines http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ The Bedfordshire Surnames List http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.55/2489 - Release Date: 11/08/09 07:37:00

Hi Annette, Looking forward to hearing from you Barbara bardus@xtra.co.nz ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Thomas" <annie.chetri@yahoo.co.uk> To: <bedford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > Hi Barbara > I have Darringtons in my tree, will check tomorrow and let you know if > there > is any connection. > all the best, Annie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barb & Dusty Miller" <bardus@xtra.co.nz> > To: "Bedfordshire List" <BEDFORD@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 8:43 PM > Subject: [BDF] Darrington's of Roxton > > >> Hi List, >> We have parents of our Doris Elizabeth DARRINGTON bn Sept qrt 1897 >> Bromley >> Kent d/o John & Mary A DARRINGTON >> >> 1901 census has Jn age 36 Police Constable bn Roxton Beds with wife Mary >> Ann >> age 29 or 39 bn Roxton Beds >> With 2 brothers >> Thomas DARRINGTON age 32 bn Roxton Beds occ General Lab >> Joseph DARRINGTON age 29 bn Roxton Beds occ Bricklayers Lab >> >> I can not find any John DARRINGTON's in births between 1854-1856 Bedford >> I have found 2 possible marriages >> Both reg in Bedford Beds >> John DARRINTON marr Dec qrt 1857 to a Mary HIGHT >> Jhn Wm DARRINGTON marr 1882 to Mary Ann BRACE >> >> Does anyone have this family in their tree that could help? >> >> Barbara & Nicole >> bardus@xtra.co.nz >> >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 5861 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: >> http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html >> >> >> >> >> >> >> The List Guidelines >> >> http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ >> >> The Bedfordshire Surnames List >> >> http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > The List Guidelines > > http://bedfordrootsweb.blogspot.com/ > > The Bedfordshire Surnames List > > http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~hughw/bedf.html > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEDFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 5863 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.download.com/Spamfighter/3000-2382_4-10764780.html

Just to say I remember a few families with the name SHEGOG here in Lancashire. It could be another variation Pamela

Actually, the family seems to come from Pytchley or Isham in Northamptonshire, but with both locations right on the border, it might be a case of the border being relocated quite often. I've become intrigued by the surname. For what should be a simple one to find, nothing seems to match. There's four births, six marriages and five deaths on FreeBMD and hardly any census records. That's probably indicative of the propensity for spelling errors. As an example I tried to follow James Shearhog 1855-1933. His birth is registered Mar 1855 as Kettering as James SHEIRHOGG. He appears as James SHEARHOG in 1861 census at Pytchley with widowed father George b1831 and aunt Sarah b1834. I haven't found him in 1871. In 1881 census he is James SPERHAG a policeman lodging at Preston in Lancashire. In June that year he marries as James SHEARHOG to Margaret. In 1891 census of Lancashire he is James SHEARHOG at Preston with wife Margaret. In 1901, he is James SHEARHOY, perhaps a simple mistrancsription. Margaret SHEARHOG died Gastang Sept 1929 and James SHEARHOG dies Preston June 1933. At least his tombstone looks to have his name right. Peter