--part1_73.6b652b0.26f03e70_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 09/12/2000 9:58:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ndec77barr writes: << He became a member of Mr. Lathrop's church on 4/29/1643 and his name stands at the head of the list, he being the first named who joined after it's removal to Scituate, Mass. >> Hi Cousins, I have the other Mary and Augustine version too. I am not saying whose is right or wrong as I did not do the research. Maybe one is her in-laws? I just feel that this version should be at least known to the other cousins. If nothing else it is a good in sight on the feel (of the Indians and colonists) of the times? I got this from Eileen and she must find out where she got it from or did somebody (Dale Burly?) send it to her? Eileen at the bottom of the page it is penciled in BEARCE FAMILY c5 71 .b3962 --1979 Dale Burley. At any rate I left a paragraph out and after I thought about it I shall type it now as I always did wonder why so many of the Bearse's were Mormon. Could this be why? This refers to the church Augustine joins....... Rev. John Lathrop had ministered to a small independent group in London, England. The group had no public place of worship as their worshipping had been declared illegal. In 1632 a wily bishop discovered their meeting place in a private home. Forty-two members including Rev. Lathrop, were imprisoned for two years but eventually all but the Reverend John were released on bail and he was given his freedom providing that he move to the colonies. In 1634, together with his children and a number of his followers, they migrated to the Massachusetts Colony and later settled and established his church at Scituate, Mass., two miles from Barnstable. Lucy (Mack) Smith, mother of Joseph Smith, the prophet of the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints, was a descendant of Rev. John Lathrop. --part1_73.6b652b0.26f03e70_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <Ndec77barr@aol.com> From: Ndec77barr@aol.com Full-name: Ndec77barr Message-ID: <f5.2a882ac.26f03929@aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 21:58:01 EDT Subject: Augustine and Mary.....Part 2 To: BEARCE-L@rootsweb.com CC: nekguda@earthlink.net, Rapjby@aol.com, lmm1007.temp@home.com, BARBADOS30@hotmail.com, emrm4142@gateway.net, Whitebajan@aol.com, sandy.ptc@wspan.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 106 He was proposed to be admitted as a freeman on 6/3/1652 and was admitted on 5/3/1653. (Webster defines freeman as; "a citizen of a borough, town or stat; one having the freedom of a company or municipality.") He was a grand juror in 1653 and in 1662 was a surveyor of highways. He was one of very few against whom no complaint was ever made, a fact which speaks well for his character as a man and citizen. He was a farmer who lived on the produce of his land and brought up his large family to be like himself-useful members of the society. He became a member of Mr. Lathrop's church on 4/29/1643 and his name stands at the head of the list, he being the first named who joined after it's removal to Scituate, Mass. He appears to have been very exact in the performance of his religious duties, causing his children to be baptized on the Sunday after their birth. His son Joseph, was born on Sunday and was carried 2 miles to the church to be baptized as their belief was such that any who died before baptism would be lost. (In limbo.) Being influenced by this belief, Augustine did not wish a weeks delay to imperil the salvation of his son, Joseph. Now such and act would be unnecessary and considered cruel. Chief Massasoit, grandfather of Princess Mary HYANNO, wife of Augustine, was also known as Osmekin, or Ousamequin, or Yellow Feather. Also called "sachem" meaning chief. He was born 1580 near what is now Bristol, Rhode Island. He died in 1661 at Pokanet, (Mt. Hope, Rhode Island, near Bristol. He and his squaw are buried at Gay Head, on Martha's Vineyard, Mass. He was a powerful chief of the Wampanoag in the region of what is now Bristol, RI; whose domain extended from Cape Cod to Narragansetts Bay. His principal village was at Pokanoket (now Mt. Hope, RI) He visited Boston in 1638 and in 1642 and in 1649 sold the site of Duxbury, Mass. to the English. A statue of him now stands on the Pilgrim burial ground in Plymouth, Mass. He first met the colonists at Plymouth, Mass. in 1621 one year after their landing. Samoset, chief of the Pemaquid tribe, a division of the Wampanoag, first met the colonists and later returned with his Chief, Massasoit, who was greeted by the colonists with trumpet and drum and was led to the newest cabin that had been decked out with cushions and a green rug on the floor. Massasoit promised the colonists he would never harm them as long as he lived; thus became the first treaty between the English and the colonist. When the colonist returned the visit in the village of Pokamoket, Massasoit was dressed in a squirrel jacket and wore a mantale of turkey feathers and received them with great honor. As a token of friendship, Massasoit gave his 2 sons, Wamsutta and Metacom, English given names of Alexander and Philip, respectively. One of Massasoit's brave by the name of Squanto was the one who taught the colonists to plant corn and put a dead fish in each hill. Massasoit provided 4 deer for the first Thanksgiving at Plymouth in 1621 and he and a small group were present at the feast. His son, Wamsutta, later called Alexander married Nannapag, and are the parents of Augustine's wife, Mary Hyanno. Wamsutta became Chief of the tribe upon his fathers death in 1661 but was short lived as chieftain of the tribe as he died one year later in 1662. His wife married twice after his death. He was succeeded by his brother Metacom. (Philip.) --part1_73.6b652b0.26f03e70_boundary--

Mary (Little Dove) Hyanno Princess of the Wampaoag was born in 1617 in Barnstable County, Massachusetts. She was born between 1622 and 1625 in Cape Cod, Massachusetts. She joined church on 7 Aug 1650 in Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts. She died about 1700. She was buried in Old Cemetery, Barnstable County, Massachusetts. Princess of the Wampanoag (native american) -- had a light complexion and flaming red hair (source: Inman/Goodwin Genealogical Database) "Chief Canonicus was my 13th g-grandfather. It is through his g-granddaughter, Mary Hyanno, that I descend. In the book "Bearse-Bears-Barss Family, Genealogy of Augustine Bearse and Princess Mary Hyanno" by Franklin Bearse, it tells of the Vikings coming to the Wampanoag area about 1001-1016. "They were fierce, red haired, pale faced men who came, to what is now Massachusetts, mixed their blood with the Wampanoag Indians and went back to the endless waters and were never seen no more. "Wampanoag" means "White Indian." Mary Hyanno (born 1625) was of light complexion and had flaming red hair. These stories were written for record from the legends passed on from one generation to another in the Wampanoag tribes." (excerpt of a speech given by Mary Auggheimer on Native American genealogy, http://members.aol.com/bbbenge/page21.htm) Parents: John Hyanno * Chief Sachem of the Cummaquid and Mary No-Pee *. She was married to Augustine (Austin, Austine) Bearse * (Bearce) in 1639 in Matachee Indian Village, regist. at Barnstable, Barnstable, Massachusetts. (1856)(67) Children were: Sarah Bearse *, Mary Bearse, Martha Bearse, Priscilla Bearse, Abigial Bearse, Hannah Bearse, Joseph Bearse, Esther (Hester) Bearse, Lydia Bearse, Rebecca Bearse, James Bearse. seems loose on her birth....... WW - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --

He was proposed to be admitted as a freeman on 6/3/1652 and was admitted on 5/3/1653. (Webster defines freeman as; "a citizen of a borough, town or stat; one having the freedom of a company or municipality.") He was a grand juror in 1653 and in 1662 was a surveyor of highways. He was one of very few against whom no complaint was ever made, a fact which speaks well for his character as a man and citizen. He was a farmer who lived on the produce of his land and brought up his large family to be like himself-useful members of the society. He became a member of Mr. Lathrop's church on 4/29/1643 and his name stands at the head of the list, he being the first named who joined after it's removal to Scituate, Mass. He appears to have been very exact in the performance of his religious duties, causing his children to be baptized on the Sunday after their birth. His son Joseph, was born on Sunday and was carried 2 miles to the church to be baptized as their belief was such that any who died before baptism would be lost. (In limbo.) Being influenced by this belief, Augustine did not wish a weeks delay to imperil the salvation of his son, Joseph. Now such and act would be unnecessary and considered cruel. Chief Massasoit, grandfather of Princess Mary HYANNO, wife of Augustine, was also known as Osmekin, or Ousamequin, or Yellow Feather. Also called "sachem" meaning chief. He was born 1580 near what is now Bristol, Rhode Island. He died in 1661 at Pokanet, (Mt. Hope, Rhode Island, near Bristol. He and his squaw are buried at Gay Head, on Martha's Vineyard, Mass. He was a powerful chief of the Wampanoag in the region of what is now Bristol, RI; whose domain extended from Cape Cod to Narragansetts Bay. His principal village was at Pokanoket (now Mt. Hope, RI) He visited Boston in 1638 and in 1642 and in 1649 sold the site of Duxbury, Mass. to the English. A statue of him now stands on the Pilgrim burial ground in Plymouth, Mass. He first met the colonists at Plymouth, Mass. in 1621 one year after their landing. Samoset, chief of the Pemaquid tribe, a division of the Wampanoag, first met the colonists and later returned with his Chief, Massasoit, who was greeted by the colonists with trumpet and drum and was led to the newest cabin that had been decked out with cushions and a green rug on the floor. Massasoit promised the colonists he would never harm them as long as he lived; thus became the first treaty between the English and the colonist. When the colonist returned the visit in the village of Pokamoket, Massasoit was dressed in a squirrel jacket and wore a mantale of turkey feathers and received them with great honor. As a token of friendship, Massasoit gave his 2 sons, Wamsutta and Metacom, English given names of Alexander and Philip, respectively. One of Massasoit's brave by the name of Squanto was the one who taught the colonists to plant corn and put a dead fish in each hill. Massasoit provided 4 deer for the first Thanksgiving at Plymouth in 1621 and he and a small group were present at the feast. His son, Wamsutta, later called Alexander married Nannapag, and are the parents of Augustine's wife, Mary Hyanno. Wamsutta became Chief of the tribe upon his fathers death in 1661 but was short lived as chieftain of the tribe as he died one year later in 1662. His wife married twice after his death. He was succeeded by his brother Metacom. (Philip.)

Aheen cousins!!! Could someone please add my cousin Phil to the Cousins list???? I would appreciate it. philsnobear@webtv.net (Phil & Joyce Parker) ``cousin Chris of the Broken Nose (like my nose doesn't have enough problems already!!!) ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Eileen, Where did you get the paperwork I am coping from? Did somebody send it to you? Or did you copy from the library yourself? Gypsy

In a message dated 09/12/2000 7:44:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Moors3029@aol.com writes: << I had No Took Seet listed as the grandMOTHER with the same date. >> Same here. Bob

Cousins, I am going to copy this exactly as it is written. It might take a few e-mails.....so if you want to save it copy, paste then print.........Gypsy. *AUGUSTINE (AUSTIN) BEARSE: b. 1618 near Longstock, England; d. 1697 Barnstable, Mass; m. summer of 1639, Machottache Village, Cape Cod, Mass; PRINCESS MARY HYANNO: b. 1625 Cape Cod, Mass, the grand-daughter of Chief Massasoit, or High Yannough, of the Indian tribe, Wampanoag, subdivision of the Cummaquids of the Algonquins; d. ca 1700 Barnstable, Mass. Both are buried in the old cemetery at Barnstable, Mass. Augustine was of Gypsy ancestry, of the Romany race. He was deported by the English government on the ship "Confidence" that sailed from Southampton, England on March 24, 1638. He had committed no wrong but was deported because of his Romany blood (by recant law-forbidden on the English soil). His name appears on the passenger list (Dr. Banks Passenger Lists, published 1/1/1955 in the genealogical pages of the Hartford Times.) as Augustine BeArce. He arrived at Plymouth, Massachusetts in 1638. In those days, at Plymouth, no puritan maiden would have married a Romany because of religious and racial scruples; so he took to a wife of lovely flaming red-haired Indian Princess who had jut reached the age of puberty. They were wed under pagan rites in a small Indian village, but their marriage is recorded in the Barnstable vital statistics. Some of the best land in Barnstable County, Mass. was ceded orally, and held jointly by Chief Massasoit and Augustine and Mary for 3 generations without any written deed. Their marriage was a powerful factor in preventing the Indians from attacking the English settlers. Later in 1639 they moved to Barnstable, Mass. which he had just been established and remained there until their deaths. His house lot consisted of 12 acres of very rocky land and was in the eastern part of the East parish. It was bounded easterly by John Crockers' land; northerly by a meadow; westerly by Goodman Isaac Robinson's' land and southerly by woods. His house stood on the North side of the road and his cellar and some remains of his orchard existed in the early 1900s. A road from his house to Hyannis, Mass. is still known as "Bearse's way." He owned six acres of meadow adjoining his upland on the North and 2 thatch islands, still known as Bearse's Islands. He also had six acres of land in the Calves Pasture, esteemed to be the best soil in the town. He also owned 8 acres of land in the Calves Pasture, esteemed to bet he best soil in the town. He also owned eight acres of planting land on the North side of Shoal Pond and was bounded by Goodman Cooper's now called Huckon's Neck and thirty acres at the Indian Ponds that were bounded easterly by the Herring River. The Indian lot he sold to Thomas Allyn who sold the same in 1655 to Roger Godspeed. The planting lands at Shoal Pond were occupied by his descendants until the early 1900s. John Jenkins and John Dexter later owned the homestead.

I had No Took Seet listed as the grandMOTHER with the same date. Bill Harding , Kalamazoo

<A HREF="http://users.javanet.com/~smartin/">Click here: New England Indians Home Page</A> http://users.javanet.com/~smartin/ Jean sent this to me. ~Gypsy`

In a message dated 09/12/2000 5:44:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, chrislouise@juno.com writes: << Aheen cousins!!! Could someone please add my cousin Phil to the Cousins list???? I would appreciate it. philsnobear@webtv.net (Phil & Joyce Parker) ``cousin Chris of the Broken Nose (like my nose doesn't have enough problems already!!!) >> Chris, He is now added. I put him on both lists and if he decides he wants on e or the other let me know. If I don't hear he will have both the L and the D. Does he want to an invite to the family.bearse.com site? The one with all the pictures? BTW I like the way you had you ancestors posted at the bottom of your letter. Gypsy

> My line went to Canada from Mass. or Conn. then to the states back to Canada > and again back to Michigan and Wisconsin. So maybe that is what is with your > line. > Eileen Brown Eileen, where in Wisconsin? Which spelling? My line is Burce in Eau Claire. Gramma Sue Hi Gordon, and welcome to our list. I'm Sue, but not the one you mentioned. My line ended up with the Burce spelling. My g-grandfather, Charles E. BURCE was from Industry, Franklin, ME. His father was Silas Burce, b. 25 Jan 1806, Starks, Somerset, ME. His father was Holmes BEARCE, b. 9 June 1774, Pembroke, MA. His father was Ebenezer BEARSE, b. and m. in MA, but died in Bristol, , ME. He must've been the one from my line that went to ME, sometime after Holmes was born. Don't know if any of this will connect for you, but if it does let me know. Gramma Sue > > > >I am hoping to fill in some LARGE gaps in my information on the Bearce > >family in Maine. My mother's father was George Elmer Bearce b. 9/24/1884 in > >Dover > >Foxcroft, ME. His father was Peter Bearce, b. 3/1863 in "french canada" > >according to the Maine state archives. > >I received a reply from someone named Sue saying there must have been two > >Bearce lines in Dover because the only ones she was aware of came from Asa > >Bearce of Hebron, Maine.

Eileen, thank you for that encouragement. The more I see and hear, the more I think that may be just what happened. I guess my next step is to try to find a copy of the Dale Burley, geneology of Augustine Bearss book in the state library. I'll get back to the list with any results. Gordon

My line went to Canada from Mass. or Conn. then to the states back to Canada and again back to Michigan and Wisconsin. So maybe that is what is with your line. Eileen Brown -----Original Message----- From: Smith, Gordon <Gordon.Smith@state.me.us> To: BEARCE-L@rootsweb.com <BEARCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 11:07 AM Subject: [BEARCE COUSINS] New cousin (?) on the block >Hello everyone! My name is Gordon Smith. I live in Augusta, Maine. Just >subscribed to this list a couple days ago and I must say I am becoming more >confused with every e-mail I receive from the list. My Bearce line is >through my mother. The following is a note I posted on the >FamilyHistory.com Bearce surname board: > >I am hoping to fill in some LARGE gaps in my information on the Bearce >family in Maine. My mother's father was George Elmer Bearce b. 9/24/1884 in >Dover >Foxcroft, ME. His father was Peter Bearce, b. 3/1863 in "french canada" >according to the Maine state archives. My mother always told me Peter's >parents could >not speak English. Don't know how true that is because I haven't any info. >whatsoever on them. George E. was a barber in Dover most of his life. I hope >someone >can help me fill in some of the pieces. Thanks for any help. > >I received a reply from someone named Sue saying there must have been two >Bearce lines in Dover because the only ones she was aware of came from Asa >Bearce of Hebron, Maine. I have been trying with no success to find any >Bearce records in the eastern provinces of Canada. Is it possible my Bearce >line did indeed originate in MA with (Austin) Augustine Bearce who came on >the ship "Confidence" in 1638 after having been deported from England as a >"Gypsy"? If so then they somehow appear to have ended up in Canada before >returning to the States. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gordon > > >==== BEARCE Mailing List ==== >Be sure to ask us about how you can be a part of the Myfamily Bearse site!! > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Gypsy, I knew it, as I said I am making another trip to Lansing soon, thought that was the only place I would have seen it. You could come over and go with me--think about it. Or we could meet there. As I am almost as far from your town as i am to Lansing, so that would be twice the way for you. It is about an hour from me, easy trip. Eileen -----Original Message----- From: BIRDDPUTT@aol.com <BIRDDPUTT@aol.com> To: BEARCE-L@rootsweb.com <BEARCE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [BEARCE COUSINS] Re: Cheif Massasoit >Gypsy, > >Dale Burley wrote a book about the Bearse family. It is titled Bearse-Bears- >Barss family: geneology of Augustine Bearss (1618-1697) and Princess Mary >Hyanomo (1625-1702) of Barnstable, Mass. 1638/ compiled by Dale L. Burley. >Publisher is Harbor Beach MI:D.L. Burley, 1979. The copy I looked at is >non-circ., but is located at the Library of Michigan in Lansing. There is an >introduction that lists background information about Augustine and Mary. >According to this guy, Chief Massasoit is the gramdfather of Mary Hyanno and >is buried at Gay Head on Martha's Vineyard. A statue of him now stands on the >Pilgrim burial ground in Plymouth, Mass. This book also states that the >marriage of Augustine and Mary Hyanno is recorded in the Barnstable vital >statistics. The bok also gives many of the Bearse family lines (although >mine is incomplete). I have promised my sister, Sharon, that I would send >her the little I copied from this book- I will do it this week. The most >important part may be the sources page that tells where the author found his >information. I think there was a later copy of this book written that had 2 >volumes to it, but it wasn't on the shelf when I was there. If there is >anything of interest in what I send Sharon, I'm sure she'll scan it and share >it with all. I tried to do a search on the author to see if he's still >around, but I couldn't find him. > >Daisy Duck (Linda) > > >==== BEARCE Mailing List ==== >Thanks for sharing!! > >============================== >Personalized Mailing Lists: never miss a connection again. >http://pml.rootsweb.com/ >Brought to you by RootsWeb.com. >

Ya buddy!!!!!!!!!!! I can't drink, so my hubby has my share!!!! you know its LEGAL here and you can even brew your own beer here???? ~~cousin Chris On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 10:11:42 EDT Nanasaf@aol.com writes: > Cousin Chris, > Wow! That TN Moonshine is something else. > Cheers, > Chief > > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hello everyone! My name is Gordon Smith. I live in Augusta, Maine. Just subscribed to this list a couple days ago and I must say I am becoming more confused with every e-mail I receive from the list. My Bearce line is through my mother. The following is a note I posted on the FamilyHistory.com Bearce surname board: I am hoping to fill in some LARGE gaps in my information on the Bearce family in Maine. My mother's father was George Elmer Bearce b. 9/24/1884 in Dover Foxcroft, ME. His father was Peter Bearce, b. 3/1863 in "french canada" according to the Maine state archives. My mother always told me Peter's parents could not speak English. Don't know how true that is because I haven't any info. whatsoever on them. George E. was a barber in Dover most of his life. I hope someone can help me fill in some of the pieces. Thanks for any help. I received a reply from someone named Sue saying there must have been two Bearce lines in Dover because the only ones she was aware of came from Asa Bearce of Hebron, Maine. I have been trying with no success to find any Bearce records in the eastern provinces of Canada. Is it possible my Bearce line did indeed originate in MA with (Austin) Augustine Bearce who came on the ship "Confidence" in 1638 after having been deported from England as a "Gypsy"? If so then they somehow appear to have ended up in Canada before returning to the States. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Gordon

Cousin Chris, My wife was from TN. Chief

Welcome Jennifer............ ~~cousin Chris Eleanor 10, Benjamin Harrison9 , Walter Preston8, Benjamin Harrison7, Benjamin6, Benjamin5, Thomas4 , Shubael3, James2, Augustine1 ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Yes, Gordon, It is possible we are everywhere and spelled about 16 different ways!! So yes you could be one of us .. most all of us seem to go back to Austin and those that don't just haven't found the proof haha ..but that doesn't mean they aren't connected!! Are you on our myfamily site yet? email me at waveplay10@aol.com and I will need your name, email and birth date and you will receive an invitation.. This goes for anyone else interested that is lurking quietly. (smiles ) In the myfamily site we have photo's and family trees of others that you can explore. your information just might be in someone else's database!! Soooooo come take a look!! If I can help with anything else causing this confusion you have felt since joining the list please just ask.. hope to hear from you soon!! Wendy

Well that is intersting . I have No Took Seet Ruling Sachem At Gay Head b. Abt. 1575 as her grandfather. so always good to hit a new trail!!! WW