Riobard, thanks for that information However my Hogans are from Clare. I can trace that line back a number of generations. They were always of Clare. Of course, the main line was through the parternal line. i can find GGGGF and GGGGM in the 1700s in Clare. I have not tried to trace all the siblings from each generation. But I have been successful with all the Hogan siblings of my GM. The cousins of whom I mention are Shannons. I have met my father's first cousin, Mary Shannon, nee Hogan, who is not deceased. She had several children, two of whom still live in Ballyvaskin, They are JP (John) and Michael Shannon. JP is a bachelor. Michael is married with three children, one of whom still lives in Ballyvaskin. My interest in Beara is the Sullivan side of my family. I know that my GGF (Cornelius) was born in Cork in 1851. I'd like to think he was from Beara, but he married a gal from Kerry. I think at that time the distance from Beara to Kerry probably was too far for romance. Francis J (my GF) was born in 1876 in Wales. I have no reason to believe he was the first born because of his name. If he were the first born, his name probably would have been Cornelius of Michael (my GGGF), don't you think. A long story. I did contact you earlier about the name Kenlarnee because Cornelius' naturalization papers site Kenlarnee County Cork as his birth place. You indicated at that time, there was no such town (townland?) in Cork with that name and suggested it might have been Killarney. A deadend here. So, I am still searching for my Sullivans in Cork. l am also searching for the Riordan line in Kerry. I have not been very diligent in that quest. But, I have renewed interest after receiving the email yesterday from ? (I have lost her name. I am afraid that is I search for it I will lose my letter to you.) So, thanks for responding. My wife and I intend to visit Ireland this summer If we do, I will make certain to get to Beara and attempt to visit you. Francis Sullivan On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Riobard O' Dwyer <[email protected]>wrote: > Frank, > There was a Cornelius Hogan living in Allihies in 1823. It was a > rare name there at that time, unless of course that he may have been > working in the copper mines, or perhaps a lighthouse keeper. And what do > you think was the name of his wife but Mary O'Sullivan. Now could you get a > Beara wife more aptly named. They had a son Cornelius born there ---- but > of him there was no further trace in the Allihies Parish. > In or around 60 years ago there was a Mary Hogan living in the > west end of Castletownbere. She had settled in her parents home and was > married to a man by the name of Cornelius (or Nealie or Connie) O'Brien. It > was thought that she was a slightly-built woman, and that she used do home > help for people. She had a brother Hugh who was older than she was, but who > settled somewhere in England. Their father Patrick Hogan came to > Castletownbere from Chatham in England, but Patrick's father Hugh was a > native of Scarriff in County Clare. After coming from Chatham, Patrick > married Mariah (or Mary) Hanley of Toormore, which is towards the hillside > to the west of the town of Castletownbere. Mariah's father was Robert > Hanley and her mother was Mary O'Dwyer. > There was also a Hogan family living in Adrigole. As far as I can > remember, their father was a Vet. > But my records have emigrated to NEHGS in Boston, and my memory > isn't as good as it was years ago. Well, I suppose you could say that it > has lasted a fair length of time. The one thing that I am a little uneasy > about is that I may be surrounded in the next life by about a hundred > battalions of women looking for revenge for giving away their ages !! > ---- Riobard. > > On 22 February 2013 20:33, Frank Sullivan <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > - I need to add my thanks for Riobard's stories I read them with a > > great deal of interest. Every two years, my wife and I journey to > > Ireland > > to visit friends and family. I continue to chase my Sullivan > ancestors > > but > > without much success. My grandmother, Hogan, always talked about the > > "Corkonians" so I assume that my grandfather's family came from Cork. > > He > > was born in Wales, but his father, my greatgrandfather was born in > > Ireland > > So, we go to Cork and the Beara peninsula each time, and enjoy the > > scenery > > there. Our favorite place is Allihies. > > - Frank Sullivan, Denver > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:09 PM, Meg Cech <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > One more thank you to Riobard and Bill, > > > I love reading every story and passing along many to my twenty year old > > > children hoping they learn about their amazing family and the great > > Irish. > > > Riobard you are a wealth of information and I hope someone in Ireland > is > > > doing videos on your oral history. I lost both parents when I was > young > > > and I wish I listen to my mom when she would tell me the stories that > she > > > remembered. > > > In Montana, they are working hard to record the stories from the > people > > > that know the history. I hope they are recording you, Riobard. You > are > > > amazing. > > > Thank you, Meg Cech, Bozeman Montana looking for stories on Maggie > > > McCarthy (the store) Murphy and Daniel Murphy who married in Butte, > > > Montana in 1917. > > > On Feb 14, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Phil Brown wrote: > > > > > > > I, too, love reading all the Beara stories. > > > > Believe it or not, I've saved every post on this list since early > 2000! > > > > Phil Brown > > > > Alexandria, Virginia > > > > > > > > ---- Teresa Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > ============= > > > > Dearest Riobard and Bill, > > > > Just want to tell you I can not thank you enough for your stories and > > > input > > > > on this list. I usually don’t respond as do not want to fill up > your > > > > mailboxes and really don’t have anything to contribute at this time. > > Be > > > > sure to know how much you are appreciated!!!!!! You are the > reason I > > > keep > > > > at my genealogy! You have made it so much more than names and > dates. > > > Even > > > > the stories that aren't about my family, through them I can visualize > > > what > > > > life was like for my ancestors at the time. You have made them real > > > people > > > > not just names and dates. I really feel like I know them from your > > > efforts! > > > > Thank you with all my heart, > > > > Terry Barnes > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Bill Gawne > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:26 AM > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] ??? > > > > > > > > Hello Riobard, and all, > > > > > > > > It's nice to see the outpouring of commentary in response to > Riobard's > > > > wondering if anyone was reading his recent posts. I, for one, not > > > > only read them but also saved them away in my "Beara" folder for > > > > future reference. > > > > > > > > The thing I think Riobard was feeling, and I know it's something I > > > > sometimes feel too, is that we're talking to the wind. We do hope > the > > > > wind carries our words to the ears (and eyes) of people who > appreciate > > > > the information we provide, but a bit of acknowledgement from time to > > > > time helps to keep the conversation going. > > > > > > > > So, that said, I certainly appreciate Riobard's recent posts about > the > > > > history of Beara. The posts about Ardgroom were not only > informative, > > > > but they also addressed a question I've long wondered about myself -- > > > > the name of Kilcatherine church. The post about the siege of Dursey > > > > Island was just heartbreaking, and it provided a bit of insight into > > > > that hideous time, in 1604, when Donal Cam O'Sullivan Bere led his > > > > surviving followers out of Beara and up the west coast of Ireland in > > > > mid-winter. > > > > > > > > Do please help us to keep the conversations going here. Nobody is > > > > assigning grades. (Because the Dear knows Riobard would win hands > > > > down if it were a contest of scholarship.) We're gathered here as > the > > > > far flung children of Beara. Share what you have, and let others who > > > > share know you appreciate the sharing. > > > > > > > > Riobard O' Dwyer <[email protected]> writes: > > > > > > > >> *I wonder if you got all the contributions I sent in for some time > > past > > > >> ----- the latest about 3 one evening/night very recently. 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