Dear friends of Beara, I've created another post about genealogy and degrees of kindred, with a chart for your convenience. It's at http://bearaschildren.blogspot.com/2013/02/what-do-we-mean-by-first-and-second.html This was inspired by references to people being "first and second cousins" in some of Riobard's stories. He and I have spent the last few days discussing it, in between his more pressing duties. I hope I've got the details right in the chart now. In any case, I've tried to explain things and I hope it's a bit clearer than mud to you all. Go have a look, and let me know what you think. -- Bill