Terry, The Catholic records for Beara begin about 1819.The 1700's are considered the "lost century of Irish records" because the English did not allow the Irish to keep records,go to school,  own property etc.  If you have an ancestor born in the late 1700's , you may be able to  get a death record for that person since centralized records for Catholics began then. (for Protestants the records begin  in 1837) .Thisi can be very frustrating !! Jane Sullivan --- On Sat, 9/20/08, Terry Curran <terrycur16@yahoo.es> wrote: From: Terry Curran <terrycur16@yahoo.es> Subject: [BEARA] Do Reccord of Allihies in 1740's exist To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 9:13 AM Do record from Allihies in the 1740 exist as I need to confirm a birth of a John O'Sullivan born in  Allihies on the 24th December 1749.   It is possible is his full  name was John Murtagh O'Sullivan or equally Murtagh John O'Sullivan.   His father was also called Murtagh and his mother was Mary Murphy (or could be Murray). His mother died shortly after his birth and his father was kill in 1754 according family lore, and note that appear in the Old family book that was passed down.   Orphan he was sent to live and be raised by his maternal Grandmother, but I am sure this was not in Allihies.   He married Ellen Murphy (or could Murray) on the 23th December 1775 one day before his 26th Birthday she was only 16 at the time.   I am not sure with town they live in, but it was still within the area.  John and Ellen had 11 children which were as followed Murtagh (Morty)  was born 16th February 1776 Cork County Ellen was born 1st February 1777 Cork County She died 7th August 1781 Fever Thomas was born 8th March 1778 Cork County he died 12th May 1778  he was a sickly babe Thomas was born 16th March 1779 Cork County he died 30th July  1781 Fever Mary was born 17th February 1780 Cork County she died 2nd August 1781 fever Maragret was born 21st January 1781 Cork County she died 31st July 1781 Fever Thomas was born  9th May 1783 Cork County he died 11th January 1789 fall from cart whilst it was moving Ellen was born 1st January 1785 Cork County Mary was born 2nd January 1786 Cork County Margaret was born 10th January 1789 Cork County John was Born 12th March 1800 Cork ( it John that my line stems from)   It is possible his grandson also called John born 1800 was living in Skibreene in the early 1800s.   My family were great at recording dates of births and names but not until the generations born in the last half of the 1800's did anyone think to add townland and parishes.   thanks in advance all the best Terry     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I noticed that I omitted the fact that centralized records for Catholics began in 1864 in Ireland so an ancestor would have to have been born late in the 1700's to show up in the death records after 1864.Hope this is more clear. Jane Sullivan --- On Sat, 9/20/08, Jane Sullivan <fishsull2@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Jane Sullivan <fishsull2@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Do Reccord of Allihies in 1740's exist To: terrycur16@yahoo.es Cc: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 11:53 AM Terry, The Catholic records for Beara begin about 1819.The 1700's are considered the "lost century of Irish records" because the English did not allow the Irish to keep records,go to school,  own property etc.  If you have an ancestor born in the late 1700's , you may be able to  get a death record for that person since centralized records for Catholics began then. (for Protestants the records begin  in 1837) .Thisi can be very frustrating !! Jane Sullivan --- On Sat, 9/20/08, Terry Curran <terrycur16@yahoo.es> wrote: From: Terry Curran <terrycur16@yahoo.es> Subject: [BEARA] Do Reccord of Allihies in 1740's exist To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, September 20, 2008, 9:13 AM Do record from Allihies in the 1740 exist as I need to confirm a birth of a John O'Sullivan born in  Allihies on the 24th December 1749.   It is possible is his full  name was John Murtagh O'Sullivan or equally Murtagh John O'Sullivan.   His father was also called Murtagh and his mother was Mary Murphy (or could be Murray). His mother died shortly after his birth and his father was kill in 1754 according family lore, and note that appear in the Old family book that was passed down.   Orphan he was sent to live and be raised by his maternal Grandmother, but I am sure this was not in Allihies.   He married Ellen Murphy (or could Murray) on the 23th December 1775 one day before his 26th Birthday she was only 16 at the time.   I am not sure with town they live in, but it was still within the area.  John and Ellen had 11 children which were as followed Murtagh (Morty)  was born 16th February 1776 Cork County Ellen was born 1st February 1777 Cork County She died 7th August 1781 Fever Thomas was born 8th March 1778 Cork County he died 12th May 1778  he was a sickly babe Thomas was born 16th March 1779 Cork County he died 30th July  1781 Fever Mary was born 17th February 1780 Cork County she died 2nd August 1781 fever Maragret was born 21st January 1781 Cork County she died 31st July 1781 Fever Thomas was born  9th May 1783 Cork County he died 11th January 1789 fall from cart whilst it was moving Ellen was born 1st January 1785 Cork County Mary was born 2nd January 1786 Cork County Margaret was born 10th January 1789 Cork County John was Born 12th March 1800 Cork ( it John that my line stems from)   It is possible his grandson also called John born 1800 was living in Skibreene in the early 1800s.   My family were great at recording dates of births and names but not until the generations born in the last half of the 1800's did anyone think to add townland and parishes.   thanks in advance all the best Terry     ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message