Lisa, When looking at the Valuations, look at any of the names of his sons. By the typical naming pattern, the oldest son would have been named after the father's father and the next son after the mother's father. NOT ALWAYS, but usually. So look at ALL of the names of his sons and see where those same names might turn up. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan in Kildare Lisa O > Pam, I think you were looking at Marge's reply to me. If I have any Fee's > in my family I do not know it. I am looking for the family of William > Logan, who with his wife and children lived in Baltimore, Cork, in 1901. > William was born about 1850 in Leitrim per the census, as well as 2 of his > children. So we know he was born, raised, married and had children in > Leitrim before making the move to Baltimore. > > Now we are trying to find his parents and siblings. Since he would be too > young to own land during the Eval., I was hoping to find his dad. But > William is all I have to go on, and don't know if he is named after his > dad. > Guess I will try to find his marriage record and birth/baptism and his two > children (I have more info obviously on them) when I take my trip, > although > I also don't know the 'townland', so seems pretty daunting to me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of jd11946@aol.com > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:24 AM > To: kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com; beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > > Hi Lisa- > > I saw your email and noted that you too are looking for FEE. My > g-grandfather, Richard Lyons, married an Elizabeth Fee whose father was > John Fee. I believe Elizabeth was one of 13 children and they lived in > Bridgehampton, a neighboring town. > I don't know where in Ireland the Fees are from do you? There was quite a > large contingent of Fees who lived in the area. > > Pam in New York > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:54 pm > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > > > > > isa, > There is approximately a fifty year difference between Griffiths and the > 901 census. Since there are very few other records for the time period > round 1850, Griffiths helps to identify where our families were and > ossibly other males in the family. If a woman was listed, she was > robably a widow, so that would tells us that the husband had died before > he valuations were done. > In my case, due to lack of records, we know of a Patrick Golden living in > nockaneyouloo in Kerry around the time of Griffiths' Valuation. We do not > now who his parents were. We know from his family history that Patrick > ad a brother John and a sister Deborah. > Now, my great grandfather was John Golden living in the townland of > appamore in 1871 (right next to Knockaneyouloo). In Griffiths we see > ohn, Patrick, and a Denis we did not know about all living in > nockaneyouloo (and no Goldens in Cappamore). So we now know where John > as then and have another > name, Denis. Was he another brother or the > ather? Further research will hopefully give us some answers, but in the > eantime one of Patrick's descendants and I are convinced that my John and > er Patrick were indeed brothers. > Slán, > arge in Southern California > Searching: > olden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > 'Connor in Kerry > ee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > ynch in Limerick and Connecticut > alsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan in Kildare > > Lisa O > I take it there is a thread about this in the archives? I just don't get > how to use the 'Evaluation'. I searched for William Logan in Antrim and > got > 11 hits, but don't see anything helpful. I have he and his family on the > 1901 census in Baltimore, Cork. The first 2 children (unless I'm > mistaken > at the time) were both born in Antrim, so thought I'd look there for the > family. > > What good are these 11 hits to me searching? Seems only gives addy info > if > you ALREADY know where the family was... am I missing something? > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:15 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > > > That's funny - because I am looking for Timothy Tade OSullivan in > Adrigole, > the townland. I tried entering just Adrigole yesterday, and it wasn't in > the drop down menu. Guess I just enter it? I will try later. Thanks. > >>From:20"John Caffrey" <jcbeara@gmail.com> >>Reply-To: beara@rootsweb.com >>To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths >>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:33:48 -0400 >> >>If it is just the townland you are interested in, then all you need do is >>enter Adrigole in the field asking for the "place-name". >> >>To Riobard's point though, Adrigole is also a parish with many townlands. >>As >>a brief aside, I had to laugh when I looked up Coolieragh (in the >> Adrigole >>parish). There were 14 individuals, 11 of which were Sullivan, and 5 of >>them >>were Timothy. It gives great appreciation for all the work Riobard has >>done, >>sorting these families out. >> >>This might help if you are looking for a different townland, but in the >>Adrigole area -> http://www.seanruad.com/ >> >>John >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon >>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:22 PM >>To: beara@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [BEARA] Griffiths >> >>Anyone know how I would search the townland of Adrigole on Griffith's? Is >>it >> >>even available? Thx >> >> >>http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_place_search_form.php >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in >>the subject and the body of the message >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 >>5:54 AM >> >> >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

OOOh, thank you for that Marge! Now that makes sense to me!!!!!!!!! And I did screw up...they were born in Antrim not Leitrim as I noted on a prev. email.... -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 4:21 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths Lisa, When looking at the Valuations, look at any of the names of his sons. By the typical naming pattern, the oldest son would have been named after the father's father and the next son after the mother's father. NOT ALWAYS, but usually. So look at ALL of the names of his sons and see where those same names might turn up. Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan in Kildare Lisa O > Pam, I think you were looking at Marge's reply to me. If I have any Fee's > in my family I do not know it. I am looking for the family of William > Logan, who with his wife and children lived in Baltimore, Cork, in 1901. > William was born about 1850 in Leitrim per the census, as well as 2 of his > children. So we know he was born, raised, married and had children in > Leitrim before making the move to Baltimore. > > Now we are trying to find his parents and siblings. Since he would be too > young to own land during the Eval., I was hoping to find his dad. But > William is all I have to go on, and don't know if he is named after his > dad. > Guess I will try to find his marriage record and birth/baptism and his two > children (I have more info obviously on them) when I take my trip, > although > I also don't know the 'townland', so seems pretty daunting to me. > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of jd11946@aol.com > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:24 AM > To: kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com; beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > > Hi Lisa- > > I saw your email and noted that you too are looking for FEE. My > g-grandfather, Richard Lyons, married an Elizabeth Fee whose father was > John Fee. I believe Elizabeth was one of 13 children and they lived in > Bridgehampton, a neighboring town. > I don't know where in Ireland the Fees are from do you? There was quite a > large contingent of Fees who lived in the area. > > Pam in New York > > > -----Original Message----- > From: kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 10:54 pm > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > > > > > isa, > There is approximately a fifty year difference between Griffiths and the > 901 census. Since there are very few other records for the time period > round 1850, Griffiths helps to identify where our families were and > ossibly other males in the family. If a woman was listed, she was > robably a widow, so that would tells us that the husband had died before > he valuations were done. > In my case, due to lack of records, we know of a Patrick Golden living in > nockaneyouloo in Kerry around the time of Griffiths' Valuation. We do not > now who his parents were. We know from his family history that Patrick > ad a brother John and a sister Deborah. > Now, my great grandfather was John Golden living in the townland of > appamore in 1871 (right next to Knockaneyouloo). In Griffiths we see > ohn, Patrick, and a Denis we did not know about all living in > nockaneyouloo (and no Goldens in Cappamore). So we now know where John > as then and have another > name, Denis. Was he another brother or the > ather? Further research will hopefully give us some answers, but in the > eantime one of Patrick's descendants and I are convinced that my John and > er Patrick were indeed brothers. > Slán, > arge in Southern California > Searching: > olden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > 'Connor in Kerry > ee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > ynch in Limerick and Connecticut > alsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan in Kildare > > Lisa O > I take it there is a thread about this in the archives? I just don't get > how to use the 'Evaluation'. I searched for William Logan in Antrim and > got > 11 hits, but don't see anything helpful. I have he and his family on the > 1901 census in Baltimore, Cork. The first 2 children (unless I'm > mistaken > at the time) were both born in Antrim, so thought I'd look there for the > family. > > What good are these 11 hits to me searching? Seems only gives addy info > if > you ALREADY know where the family was... am I missing something? > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 9:15 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > > > That's funny - because I am looking for Timothy Tade OSullivan in > Adrigole, > the townland. I tried entering just Adrigole yesterday, and it wasn't in > the drop down menu. Guess I just enter it? I will try later. Thanks. > >>From:20"John Caffrey" <jcbeara@gmail.com> >>Reply-To: beara@rootsweb.com >>To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths >>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:33:48 -0400 >> >>If it is just the townland you are interested in, then all you need do is >>enter Adrigole in the field asking for the "place-name". >> >>To Riobard's point though, Adrigole is also a parish with many townlands. >>As >>a brief aside, I had to laugh when I looked up Coolieragh (in the >> Adrigole >>parish). There were 14 individuals, 11 of which were Sullivan, and 5 of >>them >>were Timothy. It gives great appreciation for all the work Riobard has >>done, >>sorting these families out. >> >>This might help if you are looking for a different townland, but in the >>Adrigole area -> http://www.seanruad.com/ >> >>John >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon >>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:22 PM >>To: beara@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [BEARA] Griffiths >> >>Anyone know how I would search the townland of Adrigole on Griffith's? Is >>it >> >>even available? Thx >> >> >>http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_place_search_form.php >> >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in >>the subject and the body of the message >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >>Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 >>5:54 AM >> >> >>------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > > he message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message