I'm gonna make that challenge then, but right now must wait as life has interceded with another hurdle to jump at the moment. I'll be less cryptic when I have more than a quick moment to converse on the subject (Roger's father John O'Sullivan linage back possibly to the Beare himself). Be back in a little over a week, til then, passing out your books from the Island, :) Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:38 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! Dear Lisa, I'm up for any challenge as long as I know what I am being challenged about. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > Well happy to see you 'sound' like you wish to get back on the horse! I > hope you are!! Interested? Cause I would like to trace my O'Sullivan's > back to the Bear. Since I now have the island family well established, > you > up for a challenge, hehe? > > Let me know. I may be in your neck of the woods for the Christmas > holidays > ( a week or two before or after). > > Hugs to you and yours, > > Lisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:21 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > > This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to > the > world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers > to > the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years > of > research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully > there > will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that > you > will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to > trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. > Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village > the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, > thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic > Games. > ----- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Riobard O'Dwyer > To: Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. > > > Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries > over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that > I > research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork > (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including > DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish > (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also > includes > the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between > Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). > The address to which you can write is:- > Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). > Eyeries Village, > Beara Peninsula, > Co. Cork, > Ireland, > or you can email me at:- > Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of > the above Parishes. > When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are > certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you > are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the > olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, > but > with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority > of > cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were > put > into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 > different > Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you > weren't > aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon > Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that > ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the > Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a > family > in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in > a > few different Parishes! > , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to > townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; > or > a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. > Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically > impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from > some > part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into > Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my > greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to > which > one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". > At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors > were > married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out > that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people > think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the > parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate > that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was > actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had > emigrated. > Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in > Castletownbere, > but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been > born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. > Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from > marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming > to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior > research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform > miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go > on. > Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their > ancestors > would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off > the > mark. > The vitally necessary basic information to send with your > query > to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the > ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the > mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if > you > have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date > of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- > in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to > what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what > part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, > and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially > if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who > he/she married). > The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory > information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, > etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry > is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their > ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, > unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if > they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their > ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional > joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually > contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family > reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are > becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to > travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., > relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! > aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven > seas" > and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be > thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would > make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula > --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled > the > full circle. > ----- > Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1503 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. 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