Thank you for taking your time and writing about the sullivan/o'sullivans. I have enjoyed learning about the history of the names and where they come from, since part of my family ( the O'sullivan/McCarthy) came from Bere Island and castletownbere I been trying to find out about my Irish histroy and this writing has been wonderful to read. I do not mean to bother you, you have been so helpful, my mother told us we were part black irish, what does that mean, she said that is why my grandmother had blue-black hair, hazle eyes, her family also came from county cork, not bere island but north of bantry, I am just curious about what my mother ment. Out of 6 children I am the only one that has the very dark hair, but very fair skin and blue eyes, one sister has the hazle eyes and the darker skin, the rest are fair hair and blue eyes, fair skin Thank you very much margaret > From: beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:24:58 +0000 > Subject: [BEARA] Sullivans/O'Sullivans (Continued). > > Other ways of differentiating Sullivans from one another would be Bernie (Den Mick) of Cahermore, Patrick (Stephen Paddy) from Urhan, or the Jers of Derryconnery, the Larrys of Faha, the Batts of Dromlave, the Rogers of Barrakilla, the Morgans of Bonane, etc. > Other branch-names. SUONISH means peacful, tranquil, easy-going. A Crohur Suonish one time expressed his unhappiness with a few of his neighbours in the following terms:- "They are jealous of me because they cannot display the lofty traits of character which I possess ". Then there is SHEARHIG, CLUOSY, COORNEENAGH, BACHELOR, CHANCE, GOUGH, GARSOON, GAORAGH, GOULA, DEEL, DOROHY, REAGH (meaning Royalty,originally from the Tuosist Parish, Co. Kerry), McTIGUE, McSHANE (came in the early days of the copper mines), HURRIG, SKILTY, DUDLEY, BISHOP, CAIRDE, SHANDON (from a Sullivan man in the Eyeries Parish who boasted that his horse was the only one from home who could pull the load of butter all the way to the market at the top of Shandon Street, Cork City), SHAMROCK, GASTA, DRUMMOND, BARRUIL, RABACH. CUMBA/CUMBAW, sometimes written in the Church Records as COMBOY/COMEBOY is said to have originated with a section of Sullivans from Beara and South Kerry who fought as pa! > rt of the Irish Brigade in the French Army about 300 years ago. Combat (pronouncd Cumba) is, or so I am told, the French word for fight; the same meaning as the English word combat. A few years ago I came across the name COMBO which was being used as a surname in a part of Montana. I said to myself "This surely must have been, at one time, the branch-name CUMBA/CUMBAW." So, as is my wont when something is puzzling me, I got stuck in. I searched and searched and searched, and I eventually found them. They were people from the Allihies Parish who had gone out mining to Butte, and later moved further north in Montana. > ------ Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme

Dear Margaret, Duve (the "e" is silent) in Beara means black-haired or dark-haired. It is usually associated with a branch of Harringtons, but then colours can also vary. Bawn (or in reality fair-haired). The Branch-name Bawn can also be associated with Murphy, O'Shea, O'Neill, Hartnett, Downey/Downing, or Sullivan/O'Sullivan depending on where in the Beara Peninsula those Bawns were living. It can also come from the townland of Bawn in the Adrigole Parish. I would presume that "Black Irish" coming from north of Bantry would mean very dark-haired. ---- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret stein" <maggiern99@hotmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Sullivans/O'Sullivans (Continued). Thank you for taking your time and writing about the sullivan/o'sullivans. I have enjoyed learning about the history of the names and where they come from, since part of my family ( the O'sullivan/McCarthy) came from Bere Island and castletownbere I been trying to find out about my Irish histroy and this writing has been wonderful to read. I do not mean to bother you, you have been so helpful, my mother told us we were part black irish, what does that mean, she said that is why my grandmother had blue-black hair, hazle eyes, her family also came from county cork, not bere island but north of bantry, I am just curious about what my mother ment. Out of 6 children I am the only one that has the very dark hair, but very fair skin and blue eyes, one sister has the hazle eyes and the darker skin, the rest are fair hair and blue eyes, fair skin Thank you very much margaret > From: beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:24:58 +0000 > Subject: [BEARA] Sullivans/O'Sullivans (Continued). > > Other ways of differentiating Sullivans from one another would > be Bernie (Den Mick) of Cahermore, Patrick (Stephen Paddy) from Urhan, or > the Jers of Derryconnery, the Larrys of Faha, the Batts of Dromlave, the > Rogers of Barrakilla, the Morgans of Bonane, etc. > Other branch-names. SUONISH means peacful, tranquil, > easy-going. A Crohur Suonish one time expressed his unhappiness with a few > of his neighbours in the following terms:- "They are jealous of me because > they cannot display the lofty traits of character which I possess ". Then > there is SHEARHIG, CLUOSY, COORNEENAGH, BACHELOR, CHANCE, GOUGH, GARSOON, > GAORAGH, GOULA, DEEL, DOROHY, REAGH (meaning Royalty,originally from the > Tuosist Parish, Co. Kerry), McTIGUE, McSHANE (came in the early days of > the copper mines), HURRIG, SKILTY, DUDLEY, BISHOP, CAIRDE, SHANDON (from a > Sullivan man in the Eyeries Parish who boasted that his horse was the only > one from home who could pull the load of butter all the way to the market > at the top of Shandon Street, Cork City), SHAMROCK, GASTA, DRUMMOND, > BARRUIL, RABACH. CUMBA/CUMBAW, sometimes written in the Church Records as > COMBOY/COMEBOY is said to have originated with a section of Sullivans from > Beara and South Kerry who fought as pa! > rt of the Irish Brigade in the French Army about 300 years ago. Combat > (pronouncd Cumba) is, or so I am told, the French word for fight; the same > meaning as the English word combat. A few years ago I came across the name > COMBO which was being used as a surname in a part of Montana. I said to > myself "This surely must have been, at one time, the branch-name > CUMBA/CUMBAW." So, as is my wont when something is puzzling me, I got > stuck in. I searched and searched and searched, and I eventually found > them. They were people from the Allihies Parish who had gone out mining to > Butte, and later moved further north in Montana. > ------ Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail®. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message