What is the second generation rule? ________________________________ From: Lisa O <ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:14:34 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 How DO you submit a request for an Irish passport/Foreign Birth Registration? My husband is second generation and I would like to request one for him. Does anyone know if once he has one the 2 generation 'rule' begins again? Just wondering if his registration would later entitle our grandchildren to one as well. I guess I'm putting the horse before the cart as I have yet to get an official birth certificate or baptism for his grandfather as well. Did they issue birth certificates as of 1895? John and Bridget were born and buried on Bere Island. I have checked and see the closest Irish Embassy to me is in Houston, TX. Do I physically have to go there? I have done a bit of internet searching, but find nothing particular to USA residents, though I have emailed the London FBR office for assistance as well. Lisa O'Sullivan Texas -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Slattery Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:53 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 Kevin, I had no trouble four years ago submitting a Baptism certificate for my grandfather,(from Waterford City - 1850),as this was all that was available for that period; so hopefully, they would accept Church certification of the Baptism as a replacement for a missing Birth certificate. Geraldine Slattery, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2008 1:17 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 I have tried twice now to get a birth certificate for my g-grandmother Catharine O'Sullivan (born in Adrigole 1978) without success. They told me that its likely that the birth was never registered. If that is the case, is an Irish passport for my father out of the question?? I know (thru Riobard) that her baptismal records are available. Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The special law which authorized Irish citizenship, passed in 1955, applied to children of people whose parents were born in Ireland. It was changed for clarification in 1959 because they found that the next, third generation was found to be included under certain interpretations of the original law. The revision made it clear that the law applies only to the second generation, those whose grandparents were born in Ireland. The second generation does not need this avenue. They are automatically Irish citizens if at least one of their parents was born in Ireland. When I sought such recognition for an aunt of mine, I asked the Chicago Consul to give me a simple letter for her. Of course I provided the name and birth date of her father who was born in Kildare. I provided him with a copy of the baptismal certificate which I had found in the chapel of the Curragh Camp in Kildare. He sent a nice letter, confirming that she was an Irish citizen. I gave it to her as a 90th birthay present. This is not the only way to become an Irish citizen. If someone immigrates to Ireland and lives there a required time, makes application and fulfils all requirements they can achieve citizenship the old fashioned way. It is over 50 years since I went thru the quickie process ( second generation), so its quite possible that I may out of date. You should contact the Irish Embassy or any Consulate office to learn up-to-date rules and get the documents you need to make application. Bill Sullivan ________________________________ From: Maggie Appleton <asyoulikeit@snet.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 2:57:33 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 What is the second generation rule? ________________________________ From: Lisa O <ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 3:14:34 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 How DO you submit a request for an Irish passport/Foreign Birth Registration? My husband is second generation and I would like to request one for him. Does anyone know if once he has one the 2 generation 'rule' begins again? Just wondering if his registration would later entitle our grandchildren to one as well. I guess I'm putting the horse before the cart as I have yet to get an official birth certificate or baptism for his grandfather as well. Did they issue birth certificates as of 1895? John and Bridget were born and buried on Bere Island. I have checked and see the closest Irish Embassy to me is in Houston, TX. Do I physically have to go there? I have done a bit of internet searching, but find nothing particular to USA residents, though I have emailed the London FBR office for assistance as well. Lisa O'Sullivan Texas -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Slattery Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 3:53 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 Kevin, I had no trouble four years ago submitting a Baptism certificate for my grandfather,(from Waterford City - 1850),as this was all that was available for that period; so hopefully, they would accept Church certification of the Baptism as a replacement for a missing Birth certificate. Geraldine Slattery, Australia. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon Sent: Thursday, 18 December 2008 1:17 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Birth Certificate - 1878 I have tried twice now to get a birth certificate for my g-grandmother Catharine O'Sullivan (born in Adrigole 1978) without success. They told me that its likely that the birth was never registered. If that is the case, is an Irish passport for my father out of the question?? I know (thru Riobard) that her baptismal records are available. Thanks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message