Wow--that sounds like one of those logic puzzle questions! If John's grandfather and the other Sullivan descendant's great grandmother were brother and sister, what does that make John and the other Sullivan? Third cousins once removed? Brian ________________________________________ From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of beth glaser [eaglaser@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane How can a g grandmother and her grandfather be brother and sister? Just real curious. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a > connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan > descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and sisters) > and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before > mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as > being > same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus > contacted me as well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >> >> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs >> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of >> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >> from >> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius >> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >> >> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >> but >> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >> >> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >> were >> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >> laborer >> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >> and >> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >> if >> these are our people or not >> >> Any of this suggest a connection? >> >> Marge Sullivan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>> Mortimer. >>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>> have >>> as >>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>> on >>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>> group. >>> He >>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>> one >>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>> many >>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>> Dear Brian: >>>> Hi Brian: >>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >>>> and >>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>> border >>>> in >>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>> it >>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>> >>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>> >>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>> I've >>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Shelia >>>>>> >>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>> checked >>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>> They >>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>> > more >>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>> > Census. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? 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