Hi Beara listers— I’m looking (still) for information about my Sullivan-Hanley-Casey branches. I was on the Beara list-serve about 15 years ago and was helped with Riobard’s amazing work and an concert in his kitchen, but didn’t have as much information then to find them as I’ve uncovered since then. I do have the “Who are my ancestors?” book for Castletownbeare, but not the others. And I’m still looking. I thought I’d put the newest info I have out here and see if anyone has any ideas. I have lots of potential connections, but every time I think I’ve found the record I need to pull everything together, it doesn’t exist or there is a weird story to accompany why it doesn’t exist. And every generation repeated the same names….. My great great great grandfather is Daniel Sullivan married to Honora Hanley some time before or around the 1830s. The only record I’ve come across for a couple with the same names is from Reentrisk in Allihies. As far as I know, they had at least four children who went to the Boston area (Charlestown, Fall River, Lawrence): Jeremiah (my line) , James, Ellen and Mary. Jeremiah— born in Ireland around early 1830s, supposedly came to Boston around 1850, married Johanna Casey around 1860, had three children—Daniel, Mary and Francis deSales. They lived in Charlestown MA, Fall River MA in the Corky Row area, and Manchester NH. Jeremiah is always listed in records as a grocer. He died in NH in 1872. Daniel died as an infant in Fall River and is buried there. Mary died at age 11 and is buried in NH. Johanna and Francis returned to Charlestown in the mid 1880s. Francis went on to play semipro baseball in the Boston area then went on to work in City Hall. Weird thing I found in the 1880 census is that Johanna’s mother was living with them—Honora Sullivan Casey, born in Ireland around 1800 and married to either James or John Casey. Johanna may have had a brother James Patrick or Patrick James. Johanna claimed on a census record to have been born in 1841 and to have arrived in the US in 1846. Not sure about her other siblings or where they! are from. Honora was buried in a plot owned by an O’Leary family and later moved. Not sure if the O’Learys are related or not. Francis was my great-grandfather, and he kept a daily diary from 1913 to 1940, so I was able to get some family connections from that, along with vivid descriptions of every Red Sox game he attended. James—James was married to Catherine Murphy and had their first child John in Ireland in 1847. There is a record for a birth matching this one in the Allihies record—could be them? They ended up in Fall River MA and had about 6 children. Don’t know anything about them or what became of them. There are multiple couples in Fall River at the time named James Sullivan and Catherine Murphy with kids all having similar names, so I can’t tell (after 1860) which family is the right one. Ellen—Ellen married a James O’Neil in Lawrence MA and they both worked in the mills there. They had a son Robert Emmett who died at age 4 in 1886 and was buried in Fall River, but I can’t find where. Lawrence and Fall River are about three hours apart today by car, so I can’t imagine taking a body from one to the other in the 1880s. They also had a daughter Margaret who went on to be a teacher in Lawrence. Sad thing about them—James abandoned the family at some point. Ellen continued working in the mills and died in a horrible accident in 1890 where her hair got caught in an overhead twisting machine—it pulled her scalp off and she suffered for two weeks before she passed away. There is no official record of her death in MA, probably because the mill hid it. Mary—Mary married a John Sullivan, but I’m not sure when or where. He must have died young, she never remarried and had no children. But, in 1870 she was living with Jeremiah in NH, and he left instructions in his will that his $700 debt to her be paid! She also ended up raising her sister Ellen’s daughter Margaret after Ellen’s death. She remained in Lawrence until she died in 1927 at the age of 97. She worked as a dressmaker and seamstress. But—there’s more! Also living in Charlestown at the time was another Sullivan family that may be connected to the above family, but I can’t figure out what the connection is yet. Daniel Sullivan and Mary Walsh married in Charlestown in 1841 and had 6 children. Both parents died within months of each other in 1862, leaving the children. In the 1865 Massachusetts census, the 6 children are living with my Jeremiah and his family—they must have been related?? The two families continue to sponsor each other’s weddings and baptisms down the road. Daniel’s parents were Eugene Sullivan and Ellen Downey, and Mary’s parents were Richard Walsh and Ellen Sweeney. I have no idea where Mary is from or if she had other family here—there are other Walshes in the parish registers. By the turn of the century, some of Daniel and Mary’s granddaughters were written up in the Boston Globe for having entertained their “cousins from New Bedford, Easton and Taunton”, all towns around Fall River. I have no idea who they would be, but it keeps a link to some family in Fall River. And, there is also a group of Sidleys (Daniel, Patrick and Tim) interacting with both groups of Sullivans as witnesses. Tim Sidley and Dan Sullivan both contributed a $1 to the Bunker Hill Repealers in 1845 according to a newspaper article. Tim Sidley also sponsored Jeremiah’s naturalization papers. The Sidleys and Sullivans also often lived in the same house or on the same street at different times. I have lots of info on the Sidleys but can’t figure out if they were just good neighbors or related to the Sullivans. And there are some other names as sponsors in the Charlestown parish registers that could be relations—Hanleys, Murphys, other Sullivans, O’Learys, and Caseys. Lots of info here, but after about 20 years of working on this, I’ve hit a wall. Some of the connections may just be coincidences, but I want to check them out to make sure. I did do the AncestryDNA test and just got my results. I’m still going through the matches (4th cousins and further back), and I am finding lots of Beara place names in common with other matches. So, thank you for reading through this! If you have any bells going off in your head, let me know. Sometimes I think my Sullivans don’t want to be found…. Thanks, Christine (Sullivan) Kelley Chelsea, MA
Hi Christine, I don't have any matches in my tree but I had other Sullivans from Allihies that were buried in St. Patrick's Cemetery in Fall River (established in 1876). It may be worth trying there for Robert Emmett, Ph (508)679-2535 they were helpful to me when I visited. Good Luck, Julie Mc On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Christine Kelley via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Beara listers— > > I’m looking (still) for information about my Sullivan-Hanley-Casey > branches. I was on the Beara list-serve about 15 years ago and was helped > with Riobard’s amazing work and an concert in his kitchen, but didn’t have > as much information then to find them as I’ve uncovered since then. I do > have the “Who are my ancestors?” book for Castletownbeare, but not the > others. > And I’m still looking. I thought I’d put the newest info I have out here > and see if anyone has any ideas. I have lots of potential connections, but > every time I think I’ve found the record I need to pull everything > together, it doesn’t exist or there is a weird story to accompany why it > doesn’t exist. And every generation repeated the same names….. > > > My great great great grandfather is Daniel Sullivan married to Honora > Hanley some time before or around the 1830s. The only record I’ve come > across for a couple with the same names is from Reentrisk in Allihies. > As far as I know, they had at least four children who went to the Boston > area (Charlestown, Fall River, Lawrence): > Jeremiah (my line) , James, Ellen and Mary. > > Jeremiah— born in Ireland around early 1830s, supposedly came to Boston > around 1850, married Johanna Casey around 1860, had three children—Daniel, > Mary and Francis deSales. They lived in Charlestown MA, Fall River MA in > the Corky Row area, and Manchester NH. Jeremiah is always listed in > records as a grocer. He died in NH in 1872. Daniel died as an infant in > Fall River and is buried there. Mary died at age 11 and is buried in NH. > Johanna and Francis returned to Charlestown in the mid 1880s. Francis went > on to play semipro baseball in the Boston area then went on to work in City > Hall. Weird thing I found in the 1880 census is that Johanna’s mother was > living with them—Honora Sullivan Casey, born in Ireland around 1800 and > married to either James or John Casey. Johanna may have had a brother > James Patrick or Patrick James. Johanna claimed on a census record to have > been born in 1841 and to have arrived in the US in 1846. Not sure about her > other siblings or where they are from. Honora was buried in a plot owned > by an O’Leary family and later moved. Not sure if the O’Learys are related > or not. Francis was my great-grandfather, and he kept a daily diary from > 1913 to 1940, so I was able to get some family connections from that, along > with vivid descriptions of every Red Sox game he attended. > > James—James was married to Catherine Murphy and had their first child John > in Ireland in 1847. There is a record for a birth matching this one in the > Allihies record—could be them? They ended up in Fall River MA and had > about 6 children. Don’t know anything about them or what became of them. > There are multiple couples in Fall River at the time named James Sullivan > and Catherine Murphy with kids all having similar names, so I can’t tell > (after 1860) which family is the right one. > > Ellen—Ellen married a James O’Neil in Lawrence MA and they both worked in > the mills there. They had a son Robert Emmett who died at age 4 in 1886 > and was buried in Fall River, but I can’t find where. Lawrence and Fall > River are about three hours apart today by car, so I can’t imagine taking a > body from one to the other in the 1880s. They also had a daughter Margaret > who went on to be a teacher in Lawrence. Sad thing about them—James > abandoned the family at some point. Ellen continued working in the mills > and died in a horrible accident in 1890 where her hair got caught in an > overhead twisting machine—it pulled her scalp off and she suffered for two > weeks before she passed away. There is no official record of her death in > MA, probably because the mill hid it. > > Mary—Mary married a John Sullivan, but I’m not sure when or where. He > must have died young, she never remarried and had no children. But, in > 1870 she was living with Jeremiah in NH, and he left instructions in his > will that his $700 debt to her be paid! She also ended up raising her > sister Ellen’s daughter Margaret after Ellen’s death. She remained in > Lawrence until she died in 1927 at the age of 97. She worked as a > dressmaker and seamstress. > > But—there’s more! > Also living in Charlestown at the time was another Sullivan family that > may be connected to the above family, but I can’t figure out what the > connection is yet. > > Daniel Sullivan and Mary Walsh married in Charlestown in 1841 and had 6 > children. Both parents died within months of each other in 1862, leaving > the children. In the 1865 Massachusetts census, the 6 children are living > with my Jeremiah and his family—they must have been related?? The two > families continue to sponsor each other’s weddings and baptisms down the > road. Daniel’s parents were Eugene Sullivan and Ellen Downey, and Mary’s > parents were Richard Walsh and Ellen Sweeney. I have no idea where Mary is > from or if she had other family here—there are other Walshes in the parish > registers. > By the turn of the century, some of Daniel and Mary’s granddaughters were > written up in the Boston Globe for having entertained their “cousins from > New Bedford, Easton and Taunton”, all towns around Fall River. I have no > idea who they would be, but it keeps a link to some family in Fall River. > > And, there is also a group of Sidleys (Daniel, Patrick and Tim) > interacting with both groups of Sullivans as witnesses. Tim Sidley and Dan > Sullivan both contributed a $1 to the Bunker Hill Repealers in 1845 > according to a newspaper article. Tim Sidley also sponsored Jeremiah’s > naturalization papers. The Sidleys and Sullivans also often lived in the > same house or on the same street at different times. I have lots of info > on the Sidleys but can’t figure out if they were just good neighbors or > related to the Sullivans. > > And there are some other names as sponsors in the Charlestown parish > registers that could be relations—Hanleys, Murphys, other Sullivans, > O’Learys, and Caseys. > > Lots of info here, but after about 20 years of working on this, I’ve hit a > wall. Some of the connections may just be coincidences, but I want to > check them out to make sure. I did do the AncestryDNA test and just got my > results. I’m still going through the matches (4th cousins and further > back), and I am finding lots of Beara place names in common with other > matches. > > So, thank you for reading through this! If you have any bells going off > in your head, let me know. Sometimes I think my Sullivans don’t want to be > found…. > > Thanks, > > Christine (Sullivan) Kelley > Chelsea, MA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Christine -- Here is some information I have found some of which you probably already have. I am sending Johanna Casey Sullivan's Death Certificate directly to you. 1860 USC Name: Jeremiah Sullivan Age: 28 Birth Year: abt 1832 Gender: Male Birth Place: Ireland Home in 1860: Charlestown, Middlesex, Massachusetts Post Office: Charlestown Family Number: 3823 Value of Real Estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Jeremiah Sullivan 28 Joanna F Sullivan 24 1870 USC Name: Jerry Sullivan Age in 1870: 40 Birth Year: abt 1830 Birthplace: Ireland Home in 1870: Manchester Ward 5, Hillsborough, New Hampshire Race: White Gender: Male Post Office: Manchester Value of Real Estate: View image Household Members: Name Age Jerry Sullivan 40 Johannah Sullivan 35 Frank Sullivan 7 Mary Sullivan 4 Mary Sullivan 37 Massachusetts, Death Records, 1841-1915 Name: Johanna F Sullivan [Johanna F Casey] Gender: Female Birth Date: abt 1843 Birth Place: Ireland Death Date: 3 May 1904 Death Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA Age at Death: 61 Father: James Casey Massachusetts, Death Index, 1901-1980 Name: Francis D Sullivan Death Date: 1940 Death Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA Volume Number: 7 Page Number: 548 Index Volume Number: 99 Reference Number: F63.M363 v.99 Name Frank Desale Sullivan Gender Male Birth Date 28 Apr 1863 Birthplace Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts Father's Name Jeremiah Sullivan Mother's Name Joanna Citing this Record "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHTS-DMG : accessed 9 January 2016), Frank Desale Sullivan, 28 Apr 1863; citing Charlestown, Suffolk, Massachusetts, Vol 6; FHL microfilm 859,617. Name Frank De Sales Sullivan Gender Male Birth Date 28 Apr 1863 Birthplace CHARLESTOWN,SUFFOLK,MASSACHUSETTS Father's Name Jeremiah Sullivan Mother's Name Joanna Citing this Record "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FCPX-BJF : accessed 9 January 2016), Frank De Sales Sullivan, 28 Apr 1863; citing CHARLESTOWN,SUFFOLK,MASSACHUSETTS, ; FHL microfilm 859,617. Name Francis D. Sullivan Birth Date 1864 Age 38 Spouse's Name Lillian M. Carroll Spouse's Birth Date 1875 Spouse's Age 27 Event Date 05 Jan 1902 Event Place Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts Father's Name Jeremiah F. Sullivan Mother's Name Johanna F. Casey Spouse's Father's Name Bernard Carroll Spouse's Mother's Name Hannah M. Hogan Citing this Record "Massachusetts Marriages, 1695-1910," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHFQ-373 : accessed 9 January 2016), Jeremiah F. Sullivan in entry for Francis D. Sullivan and Lillian M. Carroll, 05 Jan 1902; citing reference 45; FHL microfilm 824,990. Name Mary Sullivan Gender Female Birth Date 26 Apr 1866 Birthplace Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts Father's Name Jeremiah Mother's Name Joanna Casey Citing this Record "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZHC-CQS : accessed 9 January 2016), Mary Sullivan, 26 Apr 1866; citing Fall River, Bristol, Massachusetts, ; FHL microfilm 1,428,037. Mike On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Christine Kelley via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi Beara listers— > > I’m looking (still) for information about my Sullivan-Hanley-Casey > branches. I was on the Beara list-serve about 15 years ago and was helped > with Riobard’s amazing work and an concert in his kitchen, but didn’t have > as much information then to find them as I’ve uncovered since then. I do > have the “Who are my ancestors?” book for Castletownbeare, but not the > others. > And I’m still looking. I thought I’d put the newest info I have out here > and see if anyone has any ideas. I have lots of potential connections, but > every time I think I’ve found the record I need to pull everything > together, it doesn’t exist or there is a weird story to accompany why it > doesn’t exist. And every generation repeated the same names….. > > > My great great great grandfather is Daniel Sullivan married to Honora > Hanley some time before or around the 1830s. The only record I’ve come > across for a couple with the same names is from Reentrisk in Allihies. > As far as I know, they had at least four children who went to the Boston > area (Charlestown, Fall River, Lawrence): > Jeremiah (my line) , James, Ellen and Mary. > > Jeremiah— born in Ireland around early 1830s, supposedly came to Boston > around 1850, married Johanna Casey around 1860, had three children—Daniel, > Mary and Francis deSales. They lived in Charlestown MA, Fall River MA in > the Corky Row area, and Manchester NH. Jeremiah is always listed in > records as a grocer. He died in NH in 1872. Daniel died as an infant in > Fall River and is buried there. Mary died at age 11 and is buried in NH. > Johanna and Francis returned to Charlestown in the mid 1880s. Francis went > on to play semipro baseball in the Boston area then went on to work in City > Hall. Weird thing I found in the 1880 census is that Johanna’s mother was > living with them—Honora Sullivan Casey, born in Ireland around 1800 and > married to either James or John Casey. Johanna may have had a brother > James Patrick or Patrick James. Johanna claimed on a census record to have > been born in 1841 and to have arrived in the US in 1846. Not sure about her > other siblings or where they are from. Honora was buried in a plot owned > by an O’Leary family and later moved. Not sure if the O’Learys are related > or not. Francis was my great-grandfather, and he kept a daily diary from > 1913 to 1940, so I was able to get some family connections from that, along > with vivid descriptions of every Red Sox game he attended. > > James—James was married to Catherine Murphy and had their first child John > in Ireland in 1847. There is a record for a birth matching this one in the > Allihies record—could be them? They ended up in Fall River MA and had > about 6 children. Don’t know anything about them or what became of them. > There are multiple couples in Fall River at the time named James Sullivan > and Catherine Murphy with kids all having similar names, so I can’t tell > (after 1860) which family is the right one. > > Ellen—Ellen married a James O’Neil in Lawrence MA and they both worked in > the mills there. They had a son Robert Emmett who died at age 4 in 1886 > and was buried in Fall River, but I can’t find where. Lawrence and Fall > River are about three hours apart today by car, so I can’t imagine taking a > body from one to the other in the 1880s. They also had a daughter Margaret > who went on to be a teacher in Lawrence. Sad thing about them—James > abandoned the family at some point. Ellen continued working in the mills > and died in a horrible accident in 1890 where her hair got caught in an > overhead twisting machine—it pulled her scalp off and she suffered for two > weeks before she passed away. There is no official record of her death in > MA, probably because the mill hid it. > > Mary—Mary married a John Sullivan, but I’m not sure when or where. He > must have died young, she never remarried and had no children. But, in > 1870 she was living with Jeremiah in NH, and he left instructions in his > will that his $700 debt to her be paid! She also ended up raising her > sister Ellen’s daughter Margaret after Ellen’s death. She remained in > Lawrence until she died in 1927 at the age of 97. She worked as a > dressmaker and seamstress. > > But—there’s more! > Also living in Charlestown at the time was another Sullivan family that > may be connected to the above family, but I can’t figure out what the > connection is yet. > > Daniel Sullivan and Mary Walsh married in Charlestown in 1841 and had 6 > children. Both parents died within months of each other in 1862, leaving > the children. In the 1865 Massachusetts census, the 6 children are living > with my Jeremiah and his family—they must have been related?? The two > families continue to sponsor each other’s weddings and baptisms down the > road. Daniel’s parents were Eugene Sullivan and Ellen Downey, and Mary’s > parents were Richard Walsh and Ellen Sweeney. I have no idea where Mary is > from or if she had other family here—there are other Walshes in the parish > registers. > By the turn of the century, some of Daniel and Mary’s granddaughters were > written up in the Boston Globe for having entertained their “cousins from > New Bedford, Easton and Taunton”, all towns around Fall River. I have no > idea who they would be, but it keeps a link to some family in Fall River. > > And, there is also a group of Sidleys (Daniel, Patrick and Tim) > interacting with both groups of Sullivans as witnesses. Tim Sidley and Dan > Sullivan both contributed a $1 to the Bunker Hill Repealers in 1845 > according to a newspaper article. Tim Sidley also sponsored Jeremiah’s > naturalization papers. The Sidleys and Sullivans also often lived in the > same house or on the same street at different times. I have lots of info > on the Sidleys but can’t figure out if they were just good neighbors or > related to the Sullivans. > > And there are some other names as sponsors in the Charlestown parish > registers that could be relations—Hanleys, Murphys, other Sullivans, > O’Learys, and Caseys. > > Lots of info here, but after about 20 years of working on this, I’ve hit a > wall. Some of the connections may just be coincidences, but I want to > check them out to make sure. I did do the AncestryDNA test and just got my > results. I’m still going through the matches (4th cousins and further > back), and I am finding lots of Beara place names in common with other > matches. > > So, thank you for reading through this! If you have any bells going off > in your head, let me know. Sometimes I think my Sullivans don’t want to be > found…. > > Thanks, > > Christine (Sullivan) Kelley > Chelsea, MA > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >