Hi Jim, Betty et al, I hoped that you'd get in on this Jim, as being a little older than me you'd know more than just the Leary connection. One thing that struck me to tell Betty is that where she sees Cloghlin, it is an old spelling or mis-recording of where you and I Jim, call Cloughland - there are many spellings I've found - and that Cloughland is a 'townland' on Bere Island, which of course is in Berehaven !! As you say - Up Bere Island !! Cheers - Ann Berry - O'Sullivan-Og of The Strand, Cloughland, Bere Island. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of greenane via Sent: 17 January 2016 15:01 To: elizabeth lawrence; beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley Hi Elizabeth, a relative of yours was my first teacher in grade school in Bere Island back in the thirties. Her name was Helen Crowley ,she became Mrs Draper later. She had two brothers that settled in the Island Denis who married a distant cousin of mine and who's son still lives on the Island being married to the nurse. Mike whose daughter is married to another cousin of mine(there is alot of that in the Island). Mike's daughter 's name is Catherine and her son Dermot is a nut on Geneology especially the Argentina end of it. With your permission I can send him your e-mail There were two Leary families living in cloughland when I was growing up but I couldnt tie the names you gave to either one According to Riobard's book most of Mike & Denis's siblings went to the Boston area. I've lived in the Boston area for 66 years and I never met any of themand I was a member of the old Boston Beara club and the newer Boston Beara society I hope this is helpful to you and if there's a! nything I can do let me know. I had a bunch of relatives that went to Argentina also Up Bere Island Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "elizabeth lawrence via" <beara@rootsweb.com> To: "BEARA@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:00:27 PM Subject: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley My maternal great grandparents went to Argentina from County Cork: Cornelius O’Leary, born August 24, 1845, from Cloghlin [or some records say from Berehaven] and Catherine Crowley, born June 1859 in Derrycreveen, Bere Island. They were married in Ireland February 5, 1877 and went to Argentina that same year. The family lore is that he was the black sheep and she had been forbidden from marrying him. He was 32 at the time, and she only 18. They eloped by hopping on the first ship they could, or so I was told. Cornelius' parents were Quinlan Leary and Mary McCarthy, and Catherine's parents were Jeremiah Crowley and Catherine Quill [or Johanna Quinn?]—all four seemed to have remained in Ireland. Records show the name as Quinlan Leary, not O’Leary. Jeremiah Crowley seems to have married twice: first to Johanna Harrington, with whom he had six children, and then to Johanna “Jane” Quille, with whom he had six more children. I believe all twelve of the offspring went to Argentina, and only one, Denis, returned to Bere Island. I would love to hear from anyone who knows anything about these families. Thanks! Betty Lawrence ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jim and Ann, Thanks for the quick response. Jim, please pass my email on to Dermot [or anyone else who knows of the Argentine connection]. I would love to hear from him. In addition to the O'Leary/Crowley/McCarthy/Quill connection to Beara, my mother's paternal grandparents also went from Ireland to Argentina. They were from County Wexford--the McDonnells and O'Connors. The O'Leary/Crowley and McDonnelll/O'Connor marriages each produced 11 or 12 children, and those kids married Irish-Argentines -- so there are Cummins, and Foxes, and Morrows, Fallons, and McLaughlins...I grew up [in California] believing that most of Argentina was populated by the Irish! Ann, thanks for the tip on spelling. It does get confusing to this novice! Betty Lawrence > From: anniechilts@gmail.com > To: greenane@comcast.net; beara@rootsweb.com; elawrencedcb@hotmail.com > Subject: RE: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:24:28 +0000 > > Hi Jim, Betty et al, > > I hoped that you'd get in on this Jim, as being a little older than me you'd know more than just the Leary connection. One thing that struck me to tell Betty is that where she sees Cloghlin, it is an old spelling or mis-recording of where you and I Jim, call Cloughland - there are many spellings I've found - and that Cloughland is a 'townland' on Bere Island, which of course is in Berehaven !! As you say - Up Bere Island !! > > Cheers - Ann Berry - O'Sullivan-Og of The Strand, Cloughland, Bere Island. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of greenane via > Sent: 17 January 2016 15:01 > To: elizabeth lawrence; beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley > > Hi Elizabeth, a relative of yours was my first teacher in grade school in Bere Island back in the thirties. Her name was Helen Crowley ,she became Mrs Draper later. She had two brothers that settled in the Island Denis who married a distant cousin of mine and who's son still lives on the Island being married to the nurse. Mike whose daughter is married to another cousin of mine(there is alot of that in the Island). Mike's daughter 's name is Catherine and her son Dermot is a nut on Geneology especially the Argentina end of it. With your permission I can send him your e-mail There were two Leary families living in cloughland when I was growing up but I couldnt tie the names you gave to either one According to Riobard's book most of Mike & Denis's siblings went to the Boston area. I've lived in the Boston area for 66 years and I never met any of themand I was a member of the old Boston Beara club and the newer Boston Beara society I hope this is helpful to you and if there's anything I can do let me know. > I had a bunch of relatives that went to Argentina also Up Bere Island Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "elizabeth lawrence via" <beara@rootsweb.com> > To: "BEARA@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:00:27 PM > Subject: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley > > > > My maternal great grandparents went to Argentina from County > Cork: Cornelius O’Leary, born August 24, 1845, from Cloghlin [or some records say from Berehaven] and Catherine Crowley, born June 1859 in Derrycreveen, Bere Island. > They were married in Ireland February 5, 1877 and went to Argentina that same year. The family lore is that he was the black sheep and she had been forbidden from marrying him. He was 32 at the time, and she only 18. They eloped by hopping on the first ship they could, or so I was told. > > Cornelius' parents were Quinlan Leary and Mary McCarthy, and Catherine's parents were Jeremiah Crowley and Catherine Quill [or Johanna Quinn?]—all four seemed to have remained in Ireland. > Records show the name as Quinlan Leary, not O’Leary. Jeremiah Crowley seems to have married > twice: first to Johanna Harrington, with whom he had six children, and then to Johanna “Jane” Quille, with whom he had six more children. I believe all twelve of the offspring went to Argentina, and only one, Denis, returned to Bere Island. I would love to hear from anyone who knows anything about these families. Thanks! > > Betty Lawrence > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Elizabeth, I am Argentine and living here, in Córdoba, Argentina. My ancestors came to Argentina and they were from Bere Island too. Jeremiah Sullivan, born 1853. Some of his sisters and brothers came too. And apparently he came around 1877, I am not sure, but I guess that it could be arount this year because a sister of him (Mary Sullivan) married in Córdoba 1880 to Patrick Murphy, born 1853 in Bere Island too. María Teresa Linares Sullivan 2016-01-17 19:13 GMT-03:00 elizabeth lawrence via <beara@rootsweb.com>: > Hi Jim and Ann, > Thanks for the quick response. Jim, please pass my email on to Dermot [or > anyone else who knows of the Argentine connection]. I would love to hear > from him. > In addition to the O'Leary/Crowley/McCarthy/Quill connection to Beara, my > mother's paternal grandparents also went from Ireland to Argentina. They > were from County Wexford--the McDonnells and O'Connors. > The O'Leary/Crowley and McDonnelll/O'Connor marriages each produced 11 or > 12 children, and those kids married Irish-Argentines -- so there are > Cummins, and Foxes, and Morrows, Fallons, and McLaughlins...I grew up [in > California] believing that most of Argentina was populated by the Irish! > > Ann, thanks for the tip on spelling. It does get confusing to this novice! > > Betty Lawrence > > > From: anniechilts@gmail.com > > To: greenane@comcast.net; beara@rootsweb.com; elawrencedcb@hotmail.com > > Subject: RE: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley > > Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:24:28 +0000 > > > > Hi Jim, Betty et al, > > > > I hoped that you'd get in on this Jim, as being a little older than me > you'd know more than just the Leary connection. One thing that struck me > to tell Betty is that where she sees Cloghlin, it is an old spelling or > mis-recording of where you and I Jim, call Cloughland - there are many > spellings I've found - and that Cloughland is a 'townland' on Bere Island, > which of course is in Berehaven !! As you say - Up Bere Island !! > > > > Cheers - Ann Berry - O'Sullivan-Og of The Strand, Cloughland, Bere > Island. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of greenane via > > Sent: 17 January 2016 15:01 > > To: elizabeth lawrence; beara@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley > > > > Hi Elizabeth, a relative of yours was my first teacher in grade school > in Bere Island back in the thirties. Her name was Helen Crowley ,she became > Mrs Draper later. She had two brothers that settled in the Island Denis who > married a distant cousin of mine and who's son still lives on the Island > being married to the nurse. Mike whose daughter is married to another > cousin of mine(there is alot of that in the Island). Mike's daughter 's > name is Catherine and her son Dermot is a nut on Geneology especially the > Argentina end of it. With your permission I can send him your e-mail There > were two Leary families living in cloughland when I was growing up but I > couldnt tie the names you gave to either one According to Riobard's book > most of Mike & Denis's siblings went to the Boston area. I've lived in the > Boston area for 66 years and I never met any of themand I was a member of > the old Boston Beara club and the newer Boston Beara society I hope this is > helpful to you and if there's anything I can do let me know. > > I had a bunch of relatives that went to Argentina also Up Bere Island Jim > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "elizabeth lawrence via" <beara@rootsweb.com> > > To: "BEARA@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 10:00:27 PM > > Subject: [BEARA] Argentina/O'Leary/Crowley > > > > > > > > My maternal great grandparents went to Argentina from County > > Cork: Cornelius O’Leary, born August 24, 1845, from Cloghlin [or some > records say from Berehaven] and Catherine Crowley, born June 1859 in > Derrycreveen, Bere Island. > > They were married in Ireland February 5, 1877 and went to Argentina that > same year. The family lore is that he was the black sheep and she had been > forbidden from marrying him. He was 32 at the time, and she only 18. They > eloped by hopping on the first ship they could, or so I was told. > > > > Cornelius' parents were Quinlan Leary and Mary McCarthy, and Catherine's > parents were Jeremiah Crowley and Catherine Quill [or Johanna Quinn?]—all > four seemed to have remained in Ireland. > > Records show the name as Quinlan Leary, not O’Leary. Jeremiah Crowley > seems to have married > > twice: first to Johanna Harrington, with whom he had six children, and > then to Johanna “Jane” Quille, with whom he had six more children. I > believe all twelve of the offspring went to Argentina, and only one, Denis, > returned to Bere Island. I would love to hear from anyone who knows > anything about these families. Thanks! > > > > Betty Lawrence > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >