Riobard, yes I have been very stumped on my grandfather. In reading your email I don't know whether to cry or jump up and down or maybe both! All out of joy and other emotions I can't label. Is the information in your books and I haven't came across it or some other source? 50 years of this bug could leave you chronically sleep deprived. :). I thought maybe it was just a passing phase for me and I'm sure my family wishes it was. However, I now know it will be a life-long journey and one that comes with ups and downs. This is definitely an up moment. Thank you for your vast amount of research and expertise! Tami Gilbert On Oct 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, "Riobard O' Dwyer" <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Tami, > I also caught the bug, but whereas yours was only recently, > mine was only about 50 years ago. > You seem to be puzzled very much about your grandfather > Timothy Harrington whose parents were Cornelius Harrington & Margaret > Cumba. I could go further ---- to Timothy's grandparents who were 2nd > cousins and had 7 children. There's nothing to it. It is very easy !!! Your > greatfather Cornelius Harrington was born just before the Famine. He and > his wife Margaret also had 7 children --- 4 boys & 3 girls. Cornelius had a > brother who also married a 2nd cousin. Genealogy is great fun, coupled, as > you say, with late nights. I had 50 years of those late nights ---- and I'm > still battling on (Just about !!!). > ---- Riobard. > > On 27 October 2012 19:36, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I recently caught the genealogy bug. Ouch! What a mixed blessing of the >> thrill and heart warmth it has brought to learn about my ancestry coupled >> with the late nights and seemingly all too early work mornings. I had no >> idea of the addictive nature it was to have on me. With the help of >> Riobard’s books, Butte archives, and lucky hits finding obituaries in >> Newspaper Archives I am convinced at this point I can track my >> grandmother’s family to Coulagh house 15 on the 1901 census and house 16 >> Coulagh, Cork on the 1911 census. Coulagh is the Oneill home but I have >> not found if James and Johanna lived somewhere else. On my bucket list >> someday would be to travel to this area. Would this information get me >> close to where they lived or would I be able to google earth now? >> >> I would also love to connect with anyone that knows information about >> these Lowney’s and Oneill’s. From Riobard’s book I found my great >> grandmother Johanna Shea, Lowney, Oneill who married James Lowney and after >> his death (1896 – 1899) she married John Oneill. My grandmother is Mary >> Lowney Harrington (1885) who went to Butte in 1904 and married Timothy C >> Harrington in 1906. My mother is their youngest daughter Agatha M >> Harrington Rawls. >> >> Children of Johanna Shea, Lowney, Oneill were I believe as follows: >> >> John Lowney 1884 who married Brigid Hanley (thanks Riobard) (godparents >> Patrick Shea & Honora Shea) >> >> Patrick Lowney 1894 – 1931 who I was lucky enough to find his obituary in >> a Butte newspaper stating my grandmother Mrs. T Harrington in Black >> Diamond, Washington as his sister. His obituary also noted 3 brothers and >> 1 sister in New York and two brothers and a sister in County Cork. This is >> where I’m stuck on just who might be in Ireland and who might be in New >> York. Perhaps from the information below someone will be able to give me >> some information? >> >> Julia Lowney Griffin, Crilly 6/3/1895 who also moved to Butte and passed >> in 5/19/1959 . Again lucky to get her obituary (Dooneen) >> >> Johanna lowney 3/8/1890 (godparents Killian Shea & Bridget Shea) >> >> Elizabeth Oneill 8/10/1902 who pasted 1977 in Butte who my family visited >> on occasion. (godparents Patrick Shea & Mary Shea) >> >> Michael ONeill 12/1903 >> >> Timothy Oneill 1853 >> >> JohnONeill 1888 >> >> Jerry ONeill 1899 (godparents Richard Dwyer & Catherine Shea) >> >> Honora Neill 1900 (godparents John Sullivan & Mary Lowney) >> >> My Grandfather Timothy C. Harrington family is a total mystery at this >> point except that his father was Cornelius Harrington and his Mother was >> Margaret Cumba. Timothy (1877-1879) His obituary says 1877 but a military >> registration which is verified with his address of 13 Cora Terrace >> Walkerville (Butte) Montana says 3/15/1879. He immigrated 1890 and >> naturalized Oct 24 1898 witnesses John Cumba & James Holland. He worked in >> the Badger State Mine. Cain and Catherine Holland my mothers godparents feb >> 1920 at St Lawrence church. >> >> Timothy and Mary (my Nana & grandpa) moved separately to Butte and then to >> Park City Utah in 1910. They then moved back to Butte with known address >> 13 Cora Terrace which I was again lucky to come across a front page >> newspaper (Anaconda Standard) article describing the devastating fire my >> family talked about. It started in my grandmother stove and took 7 >> buildings on Cora street in Centerville. Their family of 5 girls and 1 son >> left Butte area and moved to Black Diamond Washington to the coal mines. >> Sadly Timothy died 1924 of pulmonary hemorrhage leaving Mary with a family >> to raise. My mother was the youngest at 4 years old. Amazing women! >> >> I would be very appreciative of any information or advice as I am a >> dedicated rookie. >> >> Tami Gilbert, Mount Vernon Washington >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tami, Let me get you out of your suffering !! You cry with joy, or jump up and down. I once or twice have had a moist eye when the solution to something I had not expected to happen turned up out of the blue. And, as regards to jumping up and down, I am well used to that as well, as I have won 7 All-Ireland triple jump Championships in my time. Now, to get down to business. I have written what is known as "The Annals of Beara" which covers the children born in the Beara Peninsula in Co. Cork over the last almost 200 years [apart from some of the townlands of Bonane, Co. Kerry, which I have researched and sent on to Boston]. I don't think such research in detail has never been done in Ireland before. It took me "only" circa 50 years or so of tough going ---- but it will help many people in at last finding out their ancestors, and will now be there for everybody to be able to trace long after I have passed to my eternal reward ---- whether up or down. It probably will be down if the wishes of some of the women I have divulged their proper ages are listened to by the Man or Woman above !! Your grandfather Timothy Harrington, son of Curly (or Cornelius) Harrington (Trocaire --- a Harrington branch-name) & Margaret O'Sullivan (Cumba ---- one of about 25 O'Sullivan branch-names in Beara) was born in a lttle townland called Cloghane Lower in the Parish of Allihies. Mag (or Margaret) Cumba was born in a small townland called Coom, also in th Allihies Parish. The parents of Cornelius (born in April 1843, just before the terrible Famine in Ireland) were Tadhg Harrington (Trocaire) of Cloghane Lower & his 2nd cousin Mary Murphy (Maheesh ---- a Murphy branch-name) of the small townland of Knockrua, also in the Allihies Parish. All those are very, very detailed in Volume 1 of my 3-Volumed book, "The Annals of Beara", which is available from http:/www.lulu.com/ Very best wishes, Riobard. On 28 October 2012 22:22, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > Riobard, yes I have been very stumped on my grandfather. In reading your > email I don't know whether to cry or jump up and down or maybe both! All > out of joy and other emotions I can't label. Is the information in your > books and I haven't came across it or some other source? > > 50 years of this bug could leave you chronically sleep deprived. :). I > thought maybe it was just a passing phase for me and I'm sure my family > wishes it was. However, I now know it will be a life-long journey and one > that comes with ups and downs. This is definitely an up moment. > > Thank you for your vast amount of research and expertise! > > Tami Gilbert > > > On Oct 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, "Riobard O' Dwyer" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Dear Tami, > > I also caught the bug, but whereas yours was only recently, > > mine was only about 50 years ago. > > You seem to be puzzled very much about your grandfather > > Timothy Harrington whose parents were Cornelius Harrington & Margaret > > Cumba. I could go further ---- to Timothy's grandparents who were 2nd > > cousins and had 7 children. There's nothing to it. It is very easy !!! > Your > > greatfather Cornelius Harrington was born just before the Famine. He and > > his wife Margaret also had 7 children --- 4 boys & 3 girls. Cornelius > had a > > brother who also married a 2nd cousin. Genealogy is great fun, coupled, > as > > you say, with late nights. I had 50 years of those late nights ---- and > I'm > > still battling on (Just about !!!). > > ---- Riobard. > > > > On 27 October 2012 19:36, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Hello All, > >> > >> I recently caught the genealogy bug. Ouch! What a mixed blessing of the > >> thrill and heart warmth it has brought to learn about my ancestry > coupled > >> with the late nights and seemingly all too early work mornings. I had > no > >> idea of the addictive nature it was to have on me. With the help of > >> Riobard’s books, Butte archives, and lucky hits finding obituaries in > >> Newspaper Archives I am convinced at this point I can track my > >> grandmother’s family to Coulagh house 15 on the 1901 census and house > 16 > >> Coulagh, Cork on the 1911 census. Coulagh is the Oneill home but I have > >> not found if James and Johanna lived somewhere else. On my bucket list > >> someday would be to travel to this area. Would this information get me > >> close to where they lived or would I be able to google earth now? > >> > >> I would also love to connect with anyone that knows information about > >> these Lowney’s and Oneill’s. From Riobard’s book I found my great > >> grandmother Johanna Shea, Lowney, Oneill who married James Lowney and > after > >> his death (1896 – 1899) she married John Oneill. My grandmother is Mary > >> Lowney Harrington (1885) who went to Butte in 1904 and married Timothy C > >> Harrington in 1906. My mother is their youngest daughter Agatha M > >> Harrington Rawls. > >> > >> Children of Johanna Shea, Lowney, Oneill were I believe as follows: > >> > >> John Lowney 1884 who married Brigid Hanley (thanks Riobard) (godparents > >> Patrick Shea & Honora Shea) > >> > >> Patrick Lowney 1894 – 1931 who I was lucky enough to find his obituary > in > >> a Butte newspaper stating my grandmother Mrs. T Harrington in Black > >> Diamond, Washington as his sister. His obituary also noted 3 brothers > and > >> 1 sister in New York and two brothers and a sister in County Cork. > This is > >> where I’m stuck on just who might be in Ireland and who might be in New > >> York. Perhaps from the information below someone will be able to give > me > >> some information? > >> > >> Julia Lowney Griffin, Crilly 6/3/1895 who also moved to Butte and passed > >> in 5/19/1959 . Again lucky to get her obituary (Dooneen) > >> > >> Johanna lowney 3/8/1890 (godparents Killian Shea & Bridget Shea) > >> > >> Elizabeth Oneill 8/10/1902 who pasted 1977 in Butte who my family > visited > >> on occasion. (godparents Patrick Shea & Mary Shea) > >> > >> Michael ONeill 12/1903 > >> > >> Timothy Oneill 1853 > >> > >> JohnONeill 1888 > >> > >> Jerry ONeill 1899 (godparents Richard Dwyer & Catherine Shea) > >> > >> Honora Neill 1900 (godparents John Sullivan & Mary Lowney) > >> > >> My Grandfather Timothy C. Harrington family is a total mystery at this > >> point except that his father was Cornelius Harrington and his Mother was > >> Margaret Cumba. Timothy (1877-1879) His obituary says 1877 but a > military > >> registration which is verified with his address of 13 Cora Terrace > >> Walkerville (Butte) Montana says 3/15/1879. He immigrated 1890 and > >> naturalized Oct 24 1898 witnesses John Cumba & James Holland. He > worked in > >> the Badger State Mine. Cain and Catherine Holland my mothers godparents > feb > >> 1920 at St Lawrence church. > >> > >> Timothy and Mary (my Nana & grandpa) moved separately to Butte and then > to > >> Park City Utah in 1910. They then moved back to Butte with known > address > >> 13 Cora Terrace which I was again lucky to come across a front page > >> newspaper (Anaconda Standard) article describing the devastating fire > my > >> family talked about. It started in my grandmother stove and took 7 > >> buildings on Cora street in Centerville. Their family of 5 girls and 1 > son > >> left Butte area and moved to Black Diamond Washington to the coal mines. > >> Sadly Timothy died 1924 of pulmonary hemorrhage leaving Mary with a > family > >> to raise. My mother was the youngest at 4 years old. Amazing women! > >> > >> I would be very appreciative of any information or advice as I am a > >> dedicated rookie. > >> > >> Tami Gilbert, Mount Vernon Washington > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

Riobard, wow you have given me much to chew on. I have all three books as I was on my quest but I kept missing them. I see them now and in the book the arose did Tim marry a Lowney girl from Allihies and yes he did. My grandmother Mary Lowney. I can hardly wait to get off work to go over all the relationships. My what a tangled web marriages. What fun! I can not thank you enough. Tami Gilbert On Oct 29, 2012, at 5:38 AM, "Riobard O' Dwyer" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tami, > Let me get you out of your suffering !! You cry with joy, or > jump up and down. I once or twice have had a moist eye when the solution to > something I had not expected to happen turned up out of the blue. And, as > regards to jumping up and down, I am well used to that as well, as I have > won 7 All-Ireland triple jump Championships in my time. > Now, to get down to business. > I have written what is known as "The Annals of Beara" which > covers the children born in the Beara Peninsula in Co. Cork over the last > almost 200 years [apart from some of the townlands of Bonane, Co. Kerry, > which I have researched and sent on to Boston]. I don't think such research > in detail has never been done in Ireland before. It took me "only" circa 50 > years or so of tough going ---- but it will help many people in at last > finding out their ancestors, and will now be there for everybody to be able > to trace long after I have passed to my eternal reward ---- whether up or > down. It probably will be down if the wishes of some of the women I have > divulged their proper ages are listened to by the Man or Woman above !! > Your grandfather Timothy Harrington, son of Curly (or Cornelius) > Harrington (Trocaire --- a Harrington branch-name) & Margaret O'Sullivan > (Cumba ---- one of about 25 O'Sullivan branch-names in Beara) was born in a > lttle townland called Cloghane Lower in the Parish of Allihies. Mag (or > Margaret) Cumba was born in a small townland called Coom, also in th > Allihies Parish. The parents of Cornelius (born in April 1843, just before > the terrible Famine in Ireland) were Tadhg Harrington (Trocaire) of > Cloghane Lower & his 2nd cousin Mary Murphy (Maheesh ---- a Murphy > branch-name) of the small townland of Knockrua, also in the Allihies > Parish. All those are very, very detailed in Volume 1 of my 3-Volumed book, > "The Annals of Beara", which is available from http:/www.lulu.com/ > Very best wishes, > Riobard. > On 28 October 2012 22:22, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Riobard, yes I have been very stumped on my grandfather. In reading your >> email I don't know whether to cry or jump up and down or maybe both! All >> out of joy and other emotions I can't label. Is the information in your >> books and I haven't came across it or some other source? >> >> 50 years of this bug could leave you chronically sleep deprived. :). I >> thought maybe it was just a passing phase for me and I'm sure my family >> wishes it was. However, I now know it will be a life-long journey and one >> that comes with ups and downs. This is definitely an up moment. >> >> Thank you for your vast amount of research and expertise! >> >> Tami Gilbert >> >> >> On Oct 28, 2012, at 1:56 PM, "Riobard O' Dwyer" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Tami, >>> I also caught the bug, but whereas yours was only recently, >>> mine was only about 50 years ago. >>> You seem to be puzzled very much about your grandfather >>> Timothy Harrington whose parents were Cornelius Harrington & Margaret >>> Cumba. I could go further ---- to Timothy's grandparents who were 2nd >>> cousins and had 7 children. There's nothing to it. It is very easy !!! >> Your >>> greatfather Cornelius Harrington was born just before the Famine. He and >>> his wife Margaret also had 7 children --- 4 boys & 3 girls. Cornelius >> had a >>> brother who also married a 2nd cousin. Genealogy is great fun, coupled, >> as >>> you say, with late nights. I had 50 years of those late nights ---- and >> I'm >>> still battling on (Just about !!!). >>> ---- Riobard. >>> >>> On 27 October 2012 19:36, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All, >>>> >>>> I recently caught the genealogy bug. Ouch! What a mixed blessing of the >>>> thrill and heart warmth it has brought to learn about my ancestry >> coupled >>>> with the late nights and seemingly all too early work mornings. I had >> no >>>> idea of the addictive nature it was to have on me. With the help of >>>> Riobard’s books, Butte archives, and lucky hits finding obituaries in >>>> Newspaper Archives I am convinced at this point I can track my >>>> grandmother’s family to Coulagh house 15 on the 1901 census and house >> 16 >>>> Coulagh, Cork on the 1911 census. Coulagh is the Oneill home but I have >>>> not found if James and Johanna lived somewhere else. On my bucket list >>>> someday would be to travel to this area. Would this information get me >>>> close to where they lived or would I be able to google earth now? >>>> >>>> I would also love to connect with anyone that knows information about >>>> these Lowney’s and Oneill’s. From Riobard’s book I found my great >>>> grandmother Johanna Shea, Lowney, Oneill who married James Lowney and >> after >>>> his death (1896 – 1899) she married John Oneill. My grandmother is Mary >>>> Lowney Harrington (1885) who went to Butte in 1904 and married Timothy C >>>> Harrington in 1906. My mother is their youngest daughter Agatha M >>>> Harrington Rawls. >>>> >>>> Children of Johanna Shea, Lowney, Oneill were I believe as follows: >>>> >>>> John Lowney 1884 who married Brigid Hanley (thanks Riobard) (godparents >>>> Patrick Shea & Honora Shea) >>>> >>>> Patrick Lowney 1894 – 1931 who I was lucky enough to find his obituary >> in >>>> a Butte newspaper stating my grandmother Mrs. T Harrington in Black >>>> Diamond, Washington as his sister. His obituary also noted 3 brothers >> and >>>> 1 sister in New York and two brothers and a sister in County Cork. >> This is >>>> where I’m stuck on just who might be in Ireland and who might be in New >>>> York. Perhaps from the information below someone will be able to give >> me >>>> some information? >>>> >>>> Julia Lowney Griffin, Crilly 6/3/1895 who also moved to Butte and passed >>>> in 5/19/1959 . Again lucky to get her obituary (Dooneen) >>>> >>>> Johanna lowney 3/8/1890 (godparents Killian Shea & Bridget Shea) >>>> >>>> Elizabeth Oneill 8/10/1902 who pasted 1977 in Butte who my family >> visited >>>> on occasion. (godparents Patrick Shea & Mary Shea) >>>> >>>> Michael ONeill 12/1903 >>>> >>>> Timothy Oneill 1853 >>>> >>>> JohnONeill 1888 >>>> >>>> Jerry ONeill 1899 (godparents Richard Dwyer & Catherine Shea) >>>> >>>> Honora Neill 1900 (godparents John Sullivan & Mary Lowney) >>>> >>>> My Grandfather Timothy C. Harrington family is a total mystery at this >>>> point except that his father was Cornelius Harrington and his Mother was >>>> Margaret Cumba. Timothy (1877-1879) His obituary says 1877 but a >> military >>>> registration which is verified with his address of 13 Cora Terrace >>>> Walkerville (Butte) Montana says 3/15/1879. He immigrated 1890 and >>>> naturalized Oct 24 1898 witnesses John Cumba & James Holland. He >> worked in >>>> the Badger State Mine. Cain and Catherine Holland my mothers godparents >> feb >>>> 1920 at St Lawrence church. >>>> >>>> Timothy and Mary (my Nana & grandpa) moved separately to Butte and then >> to >>>> Park City Utah in 1910. They then moved back to Butte with known >> address >>>> 13 Cora Terrace which I was again lucky to come across a front page >>>> newspaper (Anaconda Standard) article describing the devastating fire >> my >>>> family talked about. It started in my grandmother stove and took 7 >>>> buildings on Cora street in Centerville. Their family of 5 girls and 1 >> son >>>> left Butte area and moved to Black Diamond Washington to the coal mines. >>>> Sadly Timothy died 1924 of pulmonary hemorrhage leaving Mary with a >> family >>>> to raise. My mother was the youngest at 4 years old. Amazing women! >>>> >>>> I would be very appreciative of any information or advice as I am a >>>> dedicated rookie. >>>> >>>> Tami Gilbert, Mount Vernon Washington >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message