Clanlaurence is the old name for Adrigole Parish. ----- Original Message ----- From: Coletta<mailto:ColettaD@cox.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com<mailto:beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 32 for Ed Foley Jack, In your below message for Ed you mention Clanlawrence. My O'Sullivan's (Suonish) from Bere Island originated with a Jack Suonish from "Clanlawras". Do you know if Clanlawrence and Clanlawras are different references for the same location? I have also seen "Clanlaura" in reference to the same Adrigole area of "O'Sullivan Country". Jack Suonish was born in 1745 according to one family tree. Do you have more information or history of this branch name? Or do you know of other Suonish family from that mid 1700's era? My family from Bere Island (Cloughland and Rerrin) seem to have bucked the Fall River trend and settled in Cleveland, and later Akron, Ohio. Regards, Coletta in Arizona -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com<mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com> [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John E. Mansfield Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:35 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com<mailto:beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 32 for Ed Foley >>> <beara-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:beara-request@rootsweb.com>> 1/30/2012 3:00 AM >>> Today's Topics: 1. Beara familes in Fall River (EFoley1@aol.com<mailto:EFoley1@aol.com>) Ed--Here is one more for you, Cornelius Sullivan from Clanlawrence (old name for Adrigole) Jack "LDS 1 871 509 No 3973 Final Application and Naturalization of Cornelius Sullivan Second District Court of Bristol, Fall River, Mass. Filed September 29, 93 Admitted as a citizen October 17, 1893 A.B. Leonard, clerk. Recd. $2 Sept. 29,93 COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS To Josiah C. Blaisdell, Esquire, Justice of the Second District Court of Bristol in the City of Fall River, in the County of Bristol, on the thirteenth day of September in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and ninety RESPECTFULLY REPRESENTS Cornelius Sullivan, by occupation a laborer, an alien and a free white person, now residing at No. 7 Fourth Street, in Fall River, in said County, that he was born at Kaenlarence, in the County of Cork in Ireland, on or about the first day of January, in the year eighteen hundred and fifty-two ....." I will send cull text to yr aol account. Jack ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
All sounds very interesting. Although I haven't found anything about my great grandmother (Georgina Sheehan) living there, she had a sister (Elizabeth Sheehan) and a brother Patrick Sheehan (who died in the Philippines in the Army in 1912) living in Fall River and both were buried there. I would also be interested in reading that article too ________________________________ From: Susan Haines <sehaines42@gmail.com> To: Jane Sullivan <fishsull2@yahoo.com>; beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Beara familes in Fall River Jane, do you know how one can read this article? I had a cousin living in Fall River in 1890-1920 or so, and working in the mills. She did not come from Beara, I think, but was from Kerry (Elizabeth O'Neil; he daughter was a nurse also in Fall River). Sue On 1/30/2012 9:59 AM, Jane Sullivan wrote: > Ed, Your info on FR Beara immigrants sounds very interesting! I did some research in the 1870, 1880 and 1900 census and found many women from Beara working in the cotton mills in FR. I used the names Sullivan and Harrington since nearly everyone with these names was from Beara. I was also able to use Riobard's books to make some family connections but it is hard due to the repetitive use of first names!! > I wrote a short article for IRISH ROOTS magazine called AT WORK IN FALL RIVER MASS ( 2004 Fourth Quarter, issue no.52), focusing on the women in the mills. I grew up in FR and had both Irish and English grandparents who worked in the mills. By 1900, more Beara women worked as domestics , dressmakers and clerks rather than in the mills. Many of their daughters became teachers and nurses. > I know you sent me information on your family as did many other folks.I hope to some more research after I retire in May. Keep us posted! Jane Sullivan > > From: "EFoley1@aol.com"<EFoley1@aol.com> > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:34 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Beara familes in Fall River > > > > For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall > River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the > Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara > men. > The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter > part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants > listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, > their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going > through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall > River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to > me. > Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked > at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as > home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, > Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any > case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found > for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 > total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the > Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was > also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. > If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization > records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you > have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the > 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the > Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side > by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial > revolution in textile manufacturing. > I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble > these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using > Riobard’s work. > Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that > someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of > 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. > Regards > ED FOLEY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you, Daniel. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Shea Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:10 AM To: Colettad@cox.net; beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 32 for Ed Foley Clanlaurence is the old name for Adrigole Parish.
That sounds like so much fun. My friend Frances and I (grew up together) were talking yesterday about how much fun we had while in school going to street dances, school dances etc. Now you would have to have armed guards to keep the peace. It is a sad state of affairs that the world has lost the sense of family, church, school and community that ruled in the 50's while I was growing up. I have told our children that if I could turn back the clock I would to the fifties so they could enjoy all that. We didn't have any money to spare but we were fortunate not to ever be hungry. In fact Mom and Daddy did a great job of providing and I didn't realize we were poor until after high school -- most of all the kids in school were the same and we all turned out pretty well and have no regrets about missing anything. Strange how life moves on and not always in the right direction. thanks for sending this. If there is a get together happening next time we are over, could we attend without offending the folks? Had a great day with mom yesterday. Erin, Frances and I sprung her from her re-hab center and took her to lunch and for some shopping. She had a great day and on the way home wanted to stop by McDonald's for an ice cream sunday-- best $1.00 deal around! I will be picking her up on wed. to go home and she is beyond excited. will let you know how that all goes. Thanks for the below post. k -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of donal O'Siodhachain Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 10:07 AM To: beara Subject: [BEARA] A traditional night out. Hi Folks, I send this to someone last night and I thought that I would go 'off thread' and share it with you as well. While it is great to see these things coming back, we need far more of it ! Henry, I just spend the evening from 5PM to 11AM) in a small rural community three quarters of an hour out of the city.. An old, unused farm house in an outlying farm have had three rooms made in to one and the top floor removed making it into a basic hall for the use of the community, while still in the ownership of the family who own the farm. There were about a hundred people there, over a dozen playing music for 'session' and also for traditional dancing, singing and a bit of poetry.. Most coming brought some cakes etc, all there got two or three beers over the evening or soft drinks if preferred and at 9.30PM there was tea, cake and sandwiches before some more music and a wind down. Mainly over fifties but a sprinkling of young married and teens. Just a good natured crowd there for music, dance, song, poetry and general socializing. This was of course common place in my childhood in the pre TV days, in the 'Celtic Tiger' era only a few continued this practice down to core members, but now as such entertainment is very low cost and people have time to socialize instead of traveling for 'away weekends' the people are starting to re-discover these community things. Simple Henry, very simple but unlike 'clubbing' (which I avoid like the plague) this is fine, wholesome entertainment that leaves the body, mind and spirit refreshed. While it was a thoroughly enjoyable night, I was also saddened coming back to the city: so few know of this culture and the very people sustaining it as a sector of the populace are probably those who need it least. For the rest, it is just what the doctor ordered ! However 'clubbing' in the norm with my nieces and nephews : all have regular partners and I suppose that is saying something, but the rest of that culture is heavy drinking to the point of alcohol abuse. To night I heard of some young fellow that drank a a dozen pints, friday night, that is a bloody gallon and a half of Guinness which is heavy going. Too ridiculous for words, ( aside from cost ) but that is life for the young and the indulgence the NWO have foisted on us. Slan is beannacht, Donal O ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jane, do you know how one can read this article? I had a cousin living in Fall River in 1890-1920 or so, and working in the mills. She did not come from Beara, I think, but was from Kerry (Elizabeth O'Neil; he daughter was a nurse also in Fall River). Sue On 1/30/2012 9:59 AM, Jane Sullivan wrote: > Ed, Your info on FR Beara immigrants sounds very interesting! I did some research in the 1870, 1880 and 1900 census and found many women from Beara working in the cotton mills in FR. I used the names Sullivan and Harrington since nearly everyone with these names was from Beara. I was also able to use Riobard's books to make some family connections but it is hard due to the repetitive use of first names!! > I wrote a short article for IRISH ROOTS magazine called AT WORK IN FALL RIVER MASS ( 2004 Fourth Quarter, issue no.52), focusing on the women in the mills. I grew up in FR and had both Irish and English grandparents who worked in the mills. By 1900, more Beara women worked as domestics , dressmakers and clerks rather than in the mills. Many of their daughters became teachers and nurses. > I know you sent me information on your family as did many other folks.I hope to some more research after I retire in May. Keep us posted! Jane Sullivan > > From: "EFoley1@aol.com"<EFoley1@aol.com> > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:34 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Beara familes in Fall River > > > > For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall > River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the > Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara > men. > The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter > part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants > listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, > their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going > through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall > River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to > me. > Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked > at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as > home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, > Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any > case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found > for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 > total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the > Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was > also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. > If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization > records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you > have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the > 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the > Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side > by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial > revolution in textile manufacturing. > I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble > these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using > Riobard’s work. > Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that > someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of > 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. > Regards > ED FOLEY > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Jack, In your below message for Ed you mention Clanlawrence. My O'Sullivan's (Suonish) from Bere Island originated with a Jack Suonish from "Clanlawras". Do you know if Clanlawrence and Clanlawras are different references for the same location? I have also seen "Clanlaura" in reference to the same Adrigole area of "O'Sullivan Country". Jack Suonish was born in 1745 according to one family tree. Do you have more information or history of this branch name? Or do you know of other Suonish family from that mid 1700's era? My family from Bere Island (Cloughland and Rerrin) seem to have bucked the Fall River trend and settled in Cleveland, and later Akron, Ohio. Regards, Coletta in Arizona -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John E. Mansfield Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:35 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 32 for Ed Foley >>> <beara-request@rootsweb.com> 1/30/2012 3:00 AM >>> Today's Topics: 1. Beara familes in Fall River (EFoley1@aol.com) Ed--Here is one more for you, Cornelius Sullivan from Clanlawrence (old name for Adrigole) Jack "LDS 1 871 509 No 3973 Final Application and Naturalization of Cornelius Sullivan Second District Court of Bristol, Fall River, Mass. Filed September 29, 93 Admitted as a citizen October 17, 1893 A.B. Leonard, clerk. Recd. $2 Sept. 29,93 COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS To Josiah C. Blaisdell, Esquire, Justice of the Second District Court of Bristol in the City of Fall River, in the County of Bristol, on the thirteenth day of September in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and ninety RESPECTFULLY REPRESENTS Cornelius Sullivan, by occupation a laborer, an alien and a free white person, now residing at No. 7 Fourth Street, in Fall River, in said County, that he was born at Kaenlarence, in the County of Cork in Ireland, on or about the first day of January, in the year eighteen hundred and fifty-two ....." I will send cull text to yr aol account. Jack ************************************ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
>>> <beara-request@rootsweb.com> 1/30/2012 3:00 AM >>> Today's Topics: 1. Beara familes in Fall River (EFoley1@aol.com) Ed--Here is one more for you, Cornelius Sullivan from Clanlawrence (old name for Adrigole) Jack "LDS 1 871 509 No 3973 Final Application and Naturalization of Cornelius Sullivan Second District Court of Bristol, Fall River, Mass. Filed September 29, 93 Admitted as a citizen October 17, 1893 A.B. Leonard, clerk. Recd. $2 Sept. 29,93 COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS To Josiah C. Blaisdell, Esquire, Justice of the Second District Court of Bristol in the City of Fall River, in the County of Bristol, on the thirteenth day of September in the year of our Lord eighteen hundred and ninety RESPECTFULLY REPRESENTS Cornelius Sullivan, by occupation a laborer, an alien and a free white person, now residing at No. 7 Fourth Street, in Fall River, in said County, that he was born at Kaenlarence, in the County of Cork in Ireland, on or about the first day of January, in the year eighteen hundred and fifty-two ....." I will send cull text to yr aol account. Jack ************************************
Ed, Your info on FR Beara immigrants sounds very interesting! I did some research in the 1870, 1880 and 1900 census and found many women from Beara working in the cotton mills in FR. I used the names Sullivan and Harrington since nearly everyone with these names was from Beara. I was also able to use Riobard's books to make some family connections but it is hard due to the repetitive use of first names!! I wrote a short article for IRISH ROOTS magazine called AT WORK IN FALL RIVER MASS ( 2004 Fourth Quarter, issue no.52), focusing on the women in the mills. I grew up in FR and had both Irish and English grandparents who worked in the mills. By 1900, more Beara women worked as domestics , dressmakers and clerks rather than in the mills. Many of their daughters became teachers and nurses. I know you sent me information on your family as did many other folks.I hope to some more research after I retire in May. Keep us posted! Jane Sullivan From: "EFoley1@aol.com" <EFoley1@aol.com> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:34 AM Subject: [BEARA] Beara familes in Fall River For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara men. The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to me. Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial revolution in textile manufacturing. I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using Riobard’s work. Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. Regards ED FOLEY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Ed It might not be as difficult as you think. Some of our Harringtons started emigrating to Fall River and Anaconda during the 1840s and their descendents continued to emigrate, as well as to many other parts of the USA. Distant relatives are still alive and kicking today in the area and their descendents can be traced back to Beara. I am sure there are many of the families who emigrated still with a continuous line of descendents back in Beara and elsewhere. Would you know if there are any films, photographs etc., especially with named people on them, which are circulating in the annals of the Fall River or Boston Museums etc.? Any links would be helpful, especially if they are online. Thanks in advance, Mary Mary Funnell Brighton, East Sussex, England ________________________________ From: "EFoley1@aol.com" <EFoley1@aol.com> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, 29 January 2012, 15:34 Subject: [BEARA] Beara familes in Fall River For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara men. The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to me. Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial revolution in textile manufacturing. I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using Riobard’s work. Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. Regards ED FOLEY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hope yur work goes well, I am looking for my connection via Mass. Both my greatgrandparents were married and had a son in Mass, either Fall River or Somerset across the bridge. ~~C Sullivan --- On Sun, 1/29/12, EFoley1@aol.com <EFoley1@aol.com> wrote: From: EFoley1@aol.com <EFoley1@aol.com> Subject: [BEARA] Beara familes in Fall River To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, January 29, 2012, 7:34 AM For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara men. The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to me. Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial revolution in textile manufacturing. I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using Riobard’s work. Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. Regards ED FOLEY ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara men. The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to me. Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial revolution in textile manufacturing. I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using Riobard’s work. Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. Regards ED FOLEY
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For those of you with Beara roots whose ancestors came to live in Fall River, Massachusetts, I say you have plenty of company. I spent a day at the Massachusetts archives in Boston last week and discovered a trove of Beara men. The archive has microfilmed the naturalization applications for the latter part of the 1800’s. The applications were only from men. The applicants listed their birthday, current address, day and place they came to the US, their age and the age they were when they immigrated. I spent a day going through the first films available from the 2nd District Court of Fall River. I covered only the years 1886 to 1890. The results were astounding to me. Although I did not keep track of the total number of applications I looked at during these four years I found 30 individuals who claimed the Beara as home. They noted their homes as Bearahaven, Bar Haven, Bear Haven, Castletownbere, Airies Cork, and many other variations, but from the Beara in any case. I did keep track of the number of some surnames in total and found for instance that 88% of the Sullivan applicants for those 4 years (17 total) were from the Beara. 80% (5 total) of all the Harringtons were from the Beara. All of the Leary’s (4) and all of the Shays/Sheas (4). There was also a Sheehan, Toomey and a Foley from the Beara. If you consider the percentages of surnames etc in the naturalization records represent a good sampling of the families in the city at this time, you have many Beara familes there. There were 574 Sullivans listed in the 1890 Fall River City Directory. We can estimate 505 of them were from the Beara. Harringtons, Sheas, Learys, Murphys, Toomey and more area living side by side in these old records, working in this center of the industrial revolution in textile manufacturing. I have been working with the census and immigration manifests to assemble these family groups. Next step will be to match them to their homes using Riobard’s work. Although tedious, with the records now available you can project that someday we will be able to make many connections from this popular center of 1800’s employment in Massachusetts back to the Beara in Ireland. Regards ED FOLEY
All that information should be on the Glengarriff section of "Annals of Beara" Volume 3; available from http://www.lulu.com/ ___ Riobard. On 27 January 2012 22:23, Susan Haines <sehaines42@gmail.com> wrote: > Riobard, just for curiosity and without too much effort on your part, > would you give the names of these Shea brothers? I am always on the look > out for Shea's, probably Bartholomew, Matthew and/or James. I have not > come upon branch names for them. Thank you. Sue > > On Jan 27, 2012, at 5:17 PM, "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I have spent nearly 3 hours going over the records of 46 copies which > cover > > every part of the Glengarriff Parish (Co. Cork part). As far as I could > > ascertain, there were no Lynchs in those parts having a branch-name. A > > source of amazement to me were 3 families of Sheas (looked very much like > > the families of 3 brothers, as Godparents of a child of one of the > families > > were what looked like two other brothers united). The branch-name of the > > Sheas in all three families in the same townland was normally one > > associated with two completely different families, but it was the first > > time ever to find it associated with the surname Shea. The husband of one > > was born circa 1794; his wife was born circa 1800. I also found in the > > course of my research a Patrick Sarsfield, the same name as one of > > Ireland's famous leaders of years long gone by. > > ---- Riobard. > > > > On 27 January 2012 17:16, Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> wrote: > > > >> I'm wondering this too, as I have the same names in the same area. But > no > >> documentation, or original papers that I have, have any branch names > listed > >> on them. > >> > >> Kitty > >> > >> On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:36 AM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > >> > >>> All I was asking in my original posting is ... do any of the Lynch's > or > >>> Shea's of Glengarriff have any branch names? Thank you. > >>> > >>> Kathleen~CT. > >>> > >>> > >>> In a message dated 1/27/2012 3:04:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > >>> _beara-request@rootsweb.co_ (mailto:beara-request@rootsweb.co) > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 > >>> From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> > >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Branch Names > >>> > >>> I have alot. > >>> Riobard. > >>> > >>> On 26 January 2012 18:47, Marita Meyer <mmarita1@frontier.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from > >>>> Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. > >>>> > >>>> Marita- Seattle > >>>> > >>>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of > >>>>> Glengarriff had a branch name. > >>>>> > >>>>> Kathleen~CT. > >>> > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
I have spent nearly 3 hours going over the records of 46 copies which cover every part of the Glengarriff Parish (Co. Cork part). As far as I could ascertain, there were no Lynchs in those parts having a branch-name. A source of amazement to me were 3 families of Sheas (looked very much like the families of 3 brothers, as Godparents of a child of one of the families were what looked like two other brothers united). The branch-name of the Sheas in all three families in the same townland was normally one associated with two completely different families, but it was the first time ever to find it associated with the surname Shea. The husband of one was born circa 1794; his wife was born circa 1800. I also found in the course of my research a Patrick Sarsfield, the same name as one of Ireland's famous leaders of years long gone by. ---- Riobard. On 27 January 2012 17:16, Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> wrote: > I'm wondering this too, as I have the same names in the same area. But no > documentation, or original papers that I have, have any branch names listed > on them. > > Kitty > > On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:36 AM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > > > All I was asking in my original posting is ... do any of the Lynch's or > > Shea's of Glengarriff have any branch names? Thank you. > > > > Kathleen~CT. > > > > > > In a message dated 1/27/2012 3:04:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > > _beara-request@rootsweb.co_ (mailto:beara-request@rootsweb.co) > > > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 > > From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Branch Names > > > > I have alot. > > Riobard. > > > > On 26 January 2012 18:47, Marita Meyer <mmarita1@frontier.com> wrote: > > > >> I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from > >> Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. > >> > >> Marita- Seattle > >> > >> On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > >> > >>> I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of > >>> Glengarriff had a branch name. > >>> > >>> Kathleen~CT. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
Riobard, just for curiosity and without too much effort on your part, would you give the names of these Shea brothers? I am always on the look out for Shea's, probably Bartholomew, Matthew and/or James. I have not come upon branch names for them. Thank you. Sue On Jan 27, 2012, at 5:17 PM, "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> wrote: > I have spent nearly 3 hours going over the records of 46 copies which cover > every part of the Glengarriff Parish (Co. Cork part). As far as I could > ascertain, there were no Lynchs in those parts having a branch-name. A > source of amazement to me were 3 families of Sheas (looked very much like > the families of 3 brothers, as Godparents of a child of one of the families > were what looked like two other brothers united). The branch-name of the > Sheas in all three families in the same townland was normally one > associated with two completely different families, but it was the first > time ever to find it associated with the surname Shea. The husband of one > was born circa 1794; his wife was born circa 1800. I also found in the > course of my research a Patrick Sarsfield, the same name as one of > Ireland's famous leaders of years long gone by. > ---- Riobard. > > On 27 January 2012 17:16, Kitty <jewelrydolls@verizon.net> wrote: > >> I'm wondering this too, as I have the same names in the same area. But no >> documentation, or original papers that I have, have any branch names listed >> on them. >> >> Kitty >> >> On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:36 AM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: >> >>> All I was asking in my original posting is ... do any of the Lynch's or >>> Shea's of Glengarriff have any branch names? Thank you. >>> >>> Kathleen~CT. >>> >>> >>> In a message dated 1/27/2012 3:04:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>> _beara-request@rootsweb.co_ (mailto:beara-request@rootsweb.co) >>> >>> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 >>> From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Branch Names >>> >>> I have alot. >>> Riobard. >>> >>> On 26 January 2012 18:47, Marita Meyer <mmarita1@frontier.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from >>>> Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. >>>> >>>> Marita- Seattle >>>> >>>> On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of >>>>> Glengarriff had a branch name. >>>>> >>>>> Kathleen~CT. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I'm wondering this too, as I have the same names in the same area. But no documentation, or original papers that I have, have any branch names listed on them. Kitty On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:36 AM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > All I was asking in my original posting is ... do any of the Lynch's or > Shea's of Glengarriff have any branch names? Thank you. > > Kathleen~CT. > > > In a message dated 1/27/2012 3:04:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > _beara-request@rootsweb.co_ (mailto:beara-request@rootsweb.co) > > Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 > From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Branch Names > > I have alot. > Riobard. > > On 26 January 2012 18:47, Marita Meyer <mmarita1@frontier.com> wrote: > >> I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from >> Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. >> >> Marita- Seattle >> >> On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: >> >>> I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of >>> Glengarriff had a branch name. >>> >>> Kathleen~CT. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
All I was asking in my original posting is ... do any of the Lynch's or Shea's of Glengarriff have any branch names? Thank you. Kathleen~CT. In a message dated 1/27/2012 3:04:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, _beara-request@rootsweb.co_ (mailto:beara-request@rootsweb.co) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:54:35 +0000 From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Branch Names I have alot. Riobard. On 26 January 2012 18:47, Marita Meyer <mmarita1@frontier.com> wrote: > I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from > Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. > > Marita- Seattle > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > > > I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of > > Glengarriff had a branch name. > > > > Kathleen~CT.
I have alot. Riobard. On 26 January 2012 18:47, Marita Meyer <mmarita1@frontier.com> wrote: > I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from > Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. > > Marita- Seattle > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of > > Glengarriff had a branch name. > > > > Kathleen~CT. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
You may want to get more specific??: http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/search.jsp?namefm=&namel=Lynch&location=Cahirkeem&dd=&mm=&yy=&submit=Search CHEERS-Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marita Meyer" <mmarita1@frontier.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Branch Names >I would also be interested in any information on the Lynch's from >Glengarriff/ Eyeries/Cahirkeem. > > Marita- Seattle > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 4:15 PM, KTRACY1999@aol.com wrote: > >> >> I would love someone to tell me if the Lynch's or the Shea's of >> Glengarriff had a branch name. >> >> Kathleen~CT. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message