Donal, We are happy to hear that the worst is behind you. Now you have the prayers and support of all of us as you go forward. Sue

Dear Donal, Add my prayers and good wishes to the list! You are always so informative and give us much to think about. Take care. Ginny H ----- Original Message ----- From: "donal O'Siodhachain" <dospoet@gmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Our friend Donal is not well > Thanks Bill and friends of Beara your prayers and good wishes are most > welcome. High risk surgery on emergency basis was required on Sunday > night, no time for cardiac preparation, I had to go for surgery as I > was. Last rites of RC church and Thanks be to God, we were able to > calmy plan for a worst case scenario. > > Worst is over, the rest can be done on a planned basis. A few more > serious procedures ahead but at much reduced risk, the cardiac > problems are scheduled for correction prior to the bowel tumor > removal. While it is quite advanced, as it had not shown up on regular > blood tests, so things are looking good. > > Feeling good also, even allowing for the fact that I have enough drugs > in my system to keep a small drug store in business, I have been off > form for over two years and it is such a relief to know both the cause > and the probable success of the corrective procedure. Moral is good > and the mood is positive. Thanks again for your prayers and good > wishes. > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O > > On 4/24/12, Rbortolan@yahoo.com <rbortolan@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Prayers are on their way. Catch them! >> Ruth Bortolan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: >> >>> Dear friends of Beara, >>> >>> I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal >>> O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical >>> operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while >>> longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having >>> fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions >>> here soon. >>> >>> If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his >>> doctors would not be amiss. >>> >>> -- Bill >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Donal: Great news that the serious surgery is over and you are feeling ok! Recovery will probably be slow, but not to worry, with the prayers from this group, you will be fit as a fiddle before you know it. Have been down this road myself as the care giver of my husband and he is also good. Recently had a carotid artery cleaned out...much thicker plaque that we knew, but he came through fine and is now back to normal after three weeks....not as serious as yours, but he has had his moments too. Prayers will pull you through like they did my darlin', so take your time to recover and we all look forward to see your name again on a regular routine. God Bless you and your family and do what the doctor tells you and just hang in there and soon all will be well. Best wishes from Boston, Maureen Maloney On 04/24/12, donal O'Siodhachain wrote: Thanks Bill and friends of Beara your prayers and good wishes are most welcome. High risk surgery on emergency basis was required on Sunday night, no time for cardiac preparation, I had to go for surgery as I was. Last rites of RC church and Thanks be to God, we were able to calmy plan for a worst case scenario. Worst is over, the rest can be done on a planned basis. A few more serious procedures ahead but at much reduced risk, the cardiac problems are scheduled for correction prior to the bowel tumor removal. While it is quite advanced, as it had not shown up on regular blood tests, so things are looking good. Feeling good also, even allowing for the fact that I have enough drugs in my system to keep a small drug store in business, I have been off form for over two years and it is such a relief to know both the cause and the probable success of the corrective procedure. Moral is good and the mood is positive. Thanks again for your prayers and good wishes. Slan is beannacht, Donal O On 4/24/12, Rbortolan@yahoo.com <rbortolan@yahoo.com> wrote: > Prayers are on their way. Catch them! > Ruth Bortolan > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > >> Dear friends of Beara, >> >> I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal >> O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical >> operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while >> longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having >> fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions >> here soon. >> >> If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his >> doctors would not be amiss. >> >> -- Bill >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Bill and friends of Beara your prayers and good wishes are most welcome. High risk surgery on emergency basis was required on Sunday night, no time for cardiac preparation, I had to go for surgery as I was. Last rites of RC church and Thanks be to God, we were able to calmy plan for a worst case scenario. Worst is over, the rest can be done on a planned basis. A few more serious procedures ahead but at much reduced risk, the cardiac problems are scheduled for correction prior to the bowel tumor removal. While it is quite advanced, as it had not shown up on regular blood tests, so things are looking good. Feeling good also, even allowing for the fact that I have enough drugs in my system to keep a small drug store in business, I have been off form for over two years and it is such a relief to know both the cause and the probable success of the corrective procedure. Moral is good and the mood is positive. Thanks again for your prayers and good wishes. Slan is beannacht, Donal O On 4/24/12, Rbortolan@yahoo.com <rbortolan@yahoo.com> wrote: > Prayers are on their way. Catch them! > Ruth Bortolan > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > >> Dear friends of Beara, >> >> I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal >> O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical >> operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while >> longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having >> fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions >> here soon. >> >> If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his >> doctors would not be amiss. >> >> -- Bill >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Good luck Donal,   I miss your historical input, and may you be up and rallying again soon!   May you win your physical battles and be back with us quickly, and I look forward to future verbal skirmishes - they certainly give food for thought and bits of history not well known outside of Ireland, and the debates you raise are brilliant - we all react to them, whether for or against the viewpoints presented!  The pen is mightier than the sword!   Our thoughts and prayers are with you. Good Luck & Best Wishes!   Mary Funnell Brighton England ________________________________ From: Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 24 April 2012, 14:12 Subject: [BEARA] Our friend Donal is not well Dear friends of Beara, I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal  O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical  operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while  longer.  He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having  fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions  here soon. If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his  doctors would not be amiss. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Prayers and good thoughts to you, Donal. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> To: beara <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 12:20 pm Subject: Re: [BEARA] Our friend Donal is not well Thanks Bill and friends of Beara your prayers and good wishes are most elcome. High risk surgery on emergency basis was required on Sunday ight, no time for cardiac preparation, I had to go for surgery as I as. Last rites of RC church and Thanks be to God, we were able to almy plan for a worst case scenario.

Prayers are on their way. Catch them! Ruth Bortolan Sent from my iPad On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > Dear friends of Beara, > > I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal > O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical > operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while > longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having > fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions > here soon. > > If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his > doctors would not be amiss. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear friends of Beara, I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions here soon. If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his doctors would not be amiss. -- Bill

ALL THE BEST, Donal. Canadian prayers, too! Reg ----- Original Message ----- From: "kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com" <kerrykuzzin@dslextreme.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Our friend Donal is not well > My prayers are with you, Donal. > > Marge > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > >> Dear friends of Beara, >> >> I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal >> O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical >> operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while >> longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having >> fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions >> here soon. >> >> If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his >> doctors would not be amiss. >> >> -- Bill >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > O'Connor in Kerry > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut > Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney > in > Kildare > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

My prayers are with you, Donal. Marge On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:12 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > Dear friends of Beara, > > I learned yesterday that our frequent contributor, Donal > O'Siodhachain, is facing the grim prospect of two major medical > operations that may, if all goes well, keep him with us for a while > longer. He asked me to let you all know the reason for his having > fallen silent, and he hopes to be able to return to the discussions > here soon. > > If you're of the praying persuasion, a prayer for Donal and his > doctors would not be amiss. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney in Kildare

THE LANDLORD Long ago there lived in a townland in Beara a man named Wardin. He was a Landlord, and the Parish Priest were always disagreeing. Wardin was strict with his tenants. One day he evicted a very poor man off the land on account of not being being able to pay the rent. He would not even let him build a little thatch hut on any part of his property. The Parish Priest gave the poor man permission to build a liitle hut in the Church yard. The Landlord wanted to evict the poor man out of the Church yard, but the Parish Priest would not allow him. The Landlord then wanted to evict the poor man from the Church yard, but the Parish Priest told the Landlord that he had no claim over it. Both of them then were disputing over it. The Parish Priest preached from the altar that he would make an example of the Landlord. He did. Soon after that, the Landlord got sick, and he was made deaf and dumb and crippled. As it is said: "The ways of God grind slowly ---- but surely." The first man in to the new Landlord's small field was the poor man who had previously been evicted. HEADED FOR BUTTE, MONTANA Mike Riney/Rahilly had a disagreement with his neighbour, so he"cleared" to Ardgroom, sold his horse, and headed off to the Copper Mines in Butte, Montana. Eventually Riney got to be Supt. of the mines. Michael Duggan's uncle Johnny became Shift Boss under Mike Riney. Mike Riney had a daughter who married an American, and Mike made him a Shift Boss also. Mike's farm in the western part of Urhan, Eyeries Parish, fell to Mike Shea's people, and later a Dutchman had it. It would be interesting if any of Mike Riney's descendants are still living around the Butte area. ----- Riobard.

Wonderful start to my week, reading a Beara fairy story! And it even featured a Harrington. Thanks so much, Riobard. Jane Harrington

On some of the old USA census records I find the word "do" or the sign " ...meaning "ditto"... written in columns so that the census taker does not have to write the same word many times in a row, eg. place of origin, or occupation, etc. So, to Coletta's post, I say "ditto"! Thank you, Riobard, for sharing your treasures! /Susan Twomey On Apr 14, 2012, at 10:05 AM, Coletta wrote: > Thank you, Riobard. It is always a joy to read your postings. > Coletta >

Thank you, Riobard. It is always a joy to read your postings. Coletta -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O' Dwyer Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:24 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com; bearariobard@gmail.com Subject: [BEARA] The fairies again !! MAIRE NI MHURCHU & THE MAN WITH THE TERRIBLE PAIN IN HIS KNEE. Uu-Uh-Uu. The fairies are after us again. Maire Ni Mhurchu was the Gaelic name for Mary Murphy. She lived in Beara and she was supposed to have supernatural powers given to her by the fairies. Many people in the olden days believed that she had, and they were scared out of their wits of her. But, even so, they went to her whenever they were in distress. Once upon a time, there was a man in Kilcatherine in the Eyeries Parish by the name of Mike Harrington. He was a big, strong man. One day he went cutting timber in a nearby wood so that he could have a bit of a fire for the winter. After a while cutting, he sat down to have a few slices of brown bread and a bottle of milk. When he had eaten, all of a sudden he fell down on the ground with a terrible pain in his knee. He crawled home as best he could. After a while he felt the pain easing, but, all of a sudden, the terrible pain came on him again. It was so bad that he felt that his end was near. One of his neighbours advised Mike's wife to go quickly to Maire Ni Mhurchu. She went there running as fast as she could. "Maire," says she, "Mike is dying with a desperate pain in his knee". Maire said that it was only a waste of time going anywhere else; that it was a fairy pain, and that only she and the fairies had the power to cure it. They went to the graveyard in Kilcatherine. There Maire took a fistfull of earth from Mike's mother's grave and gave it to Mike's wife. "Bring that home", says Maire,"and rub it to Mike's knee". Home with the wife as fast as a squall of wind with the fistfull of earth. She rubbed and rubbed until she had Mike's knee nearly paralysed. Then she heard the voice of Maire Ni Mhurchu from out in the sky. "Stop now" says she, "the fairies have him cured". With that, up with Mike, and danced a tune called The King of the Fairies. He never again got a pain in his knee. ---- Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

MAIRE NI MHURCHU & THE MAN WITH THE TERRIBLE PAIN IN HIS KNEE. Uu-Uh-Uu. The fairies are after us again. Maire Ni Mhurchu was the Gaelic name for Mary Murphy. She lived in Beara and she was supposed to have supernatural powers given to her by the fairies. Many people in the olden days believed that she had, and they were scared out of their wits of her. But, even so, they went to her whenever they were in distress. Once upon a time, there was a man in Kilcatherine in the Eyeries Parish by the name of Mike Harrington. He was a big, strong man. One day he went cutting timber in a nearby wood so that he could have a bit of a fire for the winter. After a while cutting, he sat down to have a few slices of brown bread and a bottle of milk. When he had eaten, all of a sudden he fell down on the ground with a terrible pain in his knee. He crawled home as best he could. After a while he felt the pain easing, but, all of a sudden, the terrible pain came on him again. It was so bad that he felt that his end was near. One of his neighbours advised Mike's wife to go quickly to Maire Ni Mhurchu. She went there running as fast as she could. "Maire," says she, "Mike is dying with a desperate pain in his knee". Maire said that it was only a waste of time going anywhere else; that it was a fairy pain, and that only she and the fairies had the power to cure it. They went to the graveyard in Kilcatherine. There Maire took a fistfull of earth from Mike's mother's grave and gave it to Mike's wife. "Bring that home", says Maire,"and rub it to Mike's knee". Home with the wife as fast as a squall of wind with the fistfull of earth. She rubbed and rubbed until she had Mike's knee nearly paralysed. Then she heard the voice of Maire Ni Mhurchu from out in the sky. "Stop now" says she, "the fairies have him cured". With that, up with Mike, and danced a tune called The King of the Fairies. He never again got a pain in his knee. ---- Riobard.

I want to thank all those on Beara-L who sent kind words for those words and for your prayers. Bill Mulligan

Hi Donal, Actually I'm Patrick (using the wife's computer). I suspect the post civil war period of Irish history lead to a small emigration boom. I actually meant the post to be a little humorous. I have old circa 1900 photos of 2 of my dad's greatuncles who were policeman. One was RIC and the other was in the Dublin Municipal Police. I joke that Constable Sullivan in my earlier post could have been a relative also! I'm a history buff but certainly don't sugar coat the past. Everybody has their own story. I once read a book describing how people in various countries were effected by the First World War. The Irish chapter dealt with Irish soldiers serving in the British Army. These men enlisted believing that they were helping Ireland and were devastated by the Easter Rising. I know that sadly they were written out of Irish history until recently. Like I said time should heal all wounds. I enjoy listening to old people tell stories regardless of their background. I know enough to take the political views with a grain of salt. I'm thrilled when I can compare an old story with a written record. There was a photo of a pretty young cousin hanging in the house. I'd often heard the story of how she was murdered in Cork in the 30's. A few years ago I was at a wake and was told there was an account of the trial in a book by a Kenneth Deale describing notorious Irish murder trials. I promptly ordered it through Amazon. Before reading the book I wrote down the version I was told growing up. Both the similiarities and contradictions were interesting. You caught me at an interesting time. My uncle recently passed away and my sister and I are trying to scan a vast amount of old photos. Unfortunately very few are labeled. I have one of yet another gggrandfather taken abound 1900. I know one of his sons went to Australia and had 8 children. In a relatively short period the Irish spread far and wide. I've seen a family tree done by someone I've never met. Just from my maternal grandfather's siblings till now there are cousins throughout the English speaking world. I was really surprised to see my 2 oldest sons listed. I'll stop rambling now. Have a great Easter Donal! Pat Sullivan On 04/06/12, donal O'Siodhachain<dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Mary : there is one critical issue here........ the narrative of those times! Whoever controls the narrative of the past can distort it to excuse their past actions and sanitize their legacy for acceptance of their legitimacy in contemporary politics. For instance did you know we had hundreds of business taken over by the workers in the 1918/22 period who assumed collective ownership of these business, declared them Soviets and who flew the red flag over them and ran them as communist enterprises? You will not hear too much about that in the poplar official account. Likewise when Herr Hitler was strutting around Germany with his Brownshirts, we had over ten thousand Nazi associated uniformed Irish Blueshirts strutting around Ireland. I have only ever seen and held one genuine Blueshirt tunic. We have had two apologist books on the period where these Fascist admirers politics are played down yet a quick read of the newspapers of thirties period will show that our Irish Fascists were using the same language and had the same views as their continental counterparts. In the early seventies in Cork City Hall at the Leaders speech, in a Fine Gael National Conference, I see some old Blueshirts ( women included) getting carried away and throwing Fascist straight arm salutes and bellowing 'up the Blueshirts' I was there for the speech with my late wife to meet her cousins who were attending, Her father a cousin of Mick Collins was Pro-Treaty and her mother Ant-Treaty! History is seldom clearcut or tidy. The Northern Ireland Conflict Good Friday agreement is less than a decade and a half old, yet Mainstream Republicans control that narrative. Many good sincere Republicans did not agree with the Good Friday Agreement; their voices can be found in various websites, but they are ignored by the mainstream Republican narrative and their voices are marginalized irrespective of how central these dissident figures once were in the mainstream movement. . Likewise back then, if Dev had not constituted these Military Commissions to get the Anti-Treaty side on record, then for future historians the collated and collected Free State accounts would dominate the historical record of these times. Since the I R B were the main instigators of the Easter Rising, my account was from an I R B perspective, that is why I gave the caveat warning and my own background that readers could see that I was articulating a certain perspective. Riobard has had little to say in all of this or I doubt if he will. Those who lived though these momentous times shared a glorious dream that they see become a reality in the First Dail and the birth of a new Republic. Where there is great love and hope, there is also a capacity for great hate when things go wrong. Victor and vanquished Republicans alike were shocked and saddened by the shattering of that dream and children like Riobard took their parents outlook and while prepared to talk about these things among their own extended families and like minded neighbors, they too like their parents before held silence in public so that the hate and hurt of the period could wither and die. Noble sentiments indeed! Slan is beannacht, Donal O' On 4/6/12, Mary Sullivan <[1]mpdsull@verizon.net> wrote: > > I stumbled accross a booklet "The Boys of the Millstreet Battalion." The > book covered the area where my maternal grandparents lived. There was a > witness statement from my Grandpa's older brother. Nothing dramatic but > interesting to family anyway. The witness statement covered the period of > the 1916 rising. Poor Denis, the company captain, was one of the few men > to > show up because as you know signals got crossed. They waited awhile and > went > on the run. The statement says the RIC came by the farm and my > greatgrandmother asked what they wanted with Denis to which Constable > Sullivan replied "to give him the lead." > I heard countless stories from my grandmother about those times. She told > how she hid another of my granduncles in her house one night. He said he > had > a bad feeling and went to hide in the fields just before the soldiers > came. > Of course as a young kid I was led to believe it was always the Black and > Tans. As I got older I found out some of the "enemy" (including the above > soldiers) were fellow Irish fighting for the Free State. Time heals all > wounds (or should) but Grandma could carry a grudge. I was at her house > when > one of Grandpa's nieces visited from Ireland. She was ecstatic about the > soon to be out Michael Collins movie with Liam Neeson. I thought Grandma > would choke. > After the Civil War a lot of that generation of my family came to the US. > Several returned to Ireland a few years later. Does that fit your family > also Riobard? > > Pat > > On 04/04/12, Riobard O' Dwyer<[2]bearariobard@gmail.com> wrote: > > My father, Liam O'Dwyer, was eventually Battalion Commandant of the 3rd > West Cork Brigade. He took the anti-Treaty side in the Civil War. But, he > bore no grievance against anybody when the War was over. He felt that he > was right; others felt that they were right. That is the worst of a Civil > War. > ---- Riobard. > On 4 April 2012 16:42, Judith Casey <[1][3]judith@judithcasey.plus.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lisa, > > please will you send me a copy to. > > Many thanks. > > Judith. > > > > On 04/04/2012 00:28, Lisa OSullivan wrote: > > > > > > Riobard, > > > > > > I just received the Witness Statement of Liam O'Dwyer of Ardgroom, > Co. > > Co., C/C > > > Castletownbere Battalion, Cork 111 Brigade, IRA. > > > > > > He notes his uncle Liam who was a teacher in Eyries National School. > > > > > > Surely, you've already seen all these records, but if you'd like a > copy > > of this > > > statement for yourself, please e-mail me and I will send it to you. > > > > > > For all, these names are listed as officers of the company. > > > > > > O/C John O'Driscoll > > > 1st Lt. Dan Harrington (Causky) > > > 2nd Lt. Robert O'Dwyer (brother) > > > > > > I just recieved about 10 witness statements from the Castletown > Brigade, > > I still > > > need to look at and will post associated names as I review. > > > > > > > > > Lisa O'Sullivan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [2][4]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [3][5]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [4][6]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. 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Dear Lisa, Yes. Thanks. You can post or email it to me ---- whichever is easier for you. Best wishes, Riobard. On 7 April 2012 10:14, Lisa OSullivan <ohlisao@att.net> wrote: > I knew I recognized it! I have a digital copy I'll be happy to email you > directly. Shall I post it to bearariobard@gmail.com? > > Lisa > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com> > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wed, April 4, 2012 4:42:03 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] To Riobard... don't you have a relation to Liam > O'Dwyer? > > Dear Lisa, > If it wouldn't be putting you to too much trouble, I would > like if you posted me on that statement; also the statement of the about 10 > witnesses (when you are ready). > My address is: > Riobard O'Dwyer, > Eyeries Village, > Beara Peninsula, > Co. Cork. > > ---- Riobard. > > On 4 April 2012 00:28, Lisa OSullivan <ohlisao@att.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Riobard, > > > > I just received the Witness Statement of Liam O'Dwyer of Ardgroom, Co. > > Co., C/C > > Castletownbere Battalion, Cork 111 Brigade, IRA. > > > > He notes his uncle Liam who was a teacher in Eyries National School. > > > > Surely, you've already seen all these records, but if you'd like a copy > of > > this > > statement for yourself, please e-mail me and I will send it to you. > > > > For all, these names are listed as officers of the company. > > > > O/C John O'Driscoll > > 1st Lt. Dan Harrington (Causky) > > 2nd Lt. Robert O'Dwyer (brother) > > > > I just recieved about 10 witness statements from the Castletown Brigade, > I > > still > > need to look at and will post associated names as I review. > > > > > > Lisa O'Sullivan > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

Hi Mary : there is one critical issue here........ the narrative of those times! Whoever controls the narrative of the past can distort it to excuse their past actions and sanitize their legacy for acceptance of their legitimacy in contemporary politics. For instance did you know we had hundreds of business taken over by the workers in the 1918/22 period who assumed collective ownership of these business, declared them Soviets and who flew the red flag over them and ran them as communist enterprises? You will not hear too much about that in the poplar official account. Likewise when Herr Hitler was strutting around Germany with his Brownshirts, we had over ten thousand Nazi associated uniformed Irish Blueshirts strutting around Ireland. I have only ever seen and held one genuine Blueshirt tunic. We have had two apologist books on the period where these Fascist admirers politics are played down yet a quick read of the newspapers of thirties period will show that our Irish Fascists were using the same language and had the same views as their continental counterparts. In the early seventies in Cork City Hall at the Leaders speech, in a Fine Gael National Conference, I see some old Blueshirts ( women included) getting carried away and throwing Fascist straight arm salutes and bellowing 'up the Blueshirts' I was there for the speech with my late wife to meet her cousins who were attending, Her father a cousin of Mick Collins was Pro-Treaty and her mother Ant-Treaty! History is seldom clearcut or tidy. The Northern Ireland Conflict Good Friday agreement is less than a decade and a half old, yet Mainstream Republicans control that narrative. Many good sincere Republicans did not agree with the Good Friday Agreement; their voices can be found in various websites, but they are ignored by the mainstream Republican narrative and their voices are marginalized irrespective of how central these dissident figures once were in the mainstream movement. . Likewise back then, if Dev had not constituted these Military Commissions to get the Anti-Treaty side on record, then for future historians the collated and collected Free State accounts would dominate the historical record of these times. Since the I R B were the main instigators of the Easter Rising, my account was from an I R B perspective, that is why I gave the caveat warning and my own background that readers could see that I was articulating a certain perspective. Riobard has had little to say in all of this or I doubt if he will. Those who lived though these momentous times shared a glorious dream that they see become a reality in the First Dail and the birth of a new Republic. Where there is great love and hope, there is also a capacity for great hate when things go wrong. Victor and vanquished Republicans alike were shocked and saddened by the shattering of that dream and children like Riobard took their parents outlook and while prepared to talk about these things among their own extended families and like minded neighbors, they too like their parents before held silence in public so that the hate and hurt of the period could wither and die. Noble sentiments indeed! Slan is beannacht, Donal O' On 4/6/12, Mary Sullivan <mpdsull@verizon.net> wrote: > > I stumbled accross a booklet "The Boys of the Millstreet Battalion." The > book covered the area where my maternal grandparents lived. There was a > witness statement from my Grandpa's older brother. Nothing dramatic but > interesting to family anyway. The witness statement covered the period of > the 1916 rising. Poor Denis, the company captain, was one of the few men > to > show up because as you know signals got crossed. They waited awhile and > went > on the run. The statement says the RIC came by the farm and my > greatgrandmother asked what they wanted with Denis to which Constable > Sullivan replied "to give him the lead." > I heard countless stories from my grandmother about those times. She told > how she hid another of my granduncles in her house one night. He said he > had > a bad feeling and went to hide in the fields just before the soldiers > came. > Of course as a young kid I was led to believe it was always the Black and > Tans. As I got older I found out some of the "enemy" (including the above > soldiers) were fellow Irish fighting for the Free State. Time heals all > wounds (or should) but Grandma could carry a grudge. I was at her house > when > one of Grandpa's nieces visited from Ireland. She was ecstatic about the > soon to be out Michael Collins movie with Liam Neeson. I thought Grandma > would choke. > After the Civil War a lot of that generation of my family came to the US. > Several returned to Ireland a few years later. Does that fit your family > also Riobard? > > Pat > > On 04/04/12, Riobard O' Dwyer<bearariobard@gmail.com> wrote: > > My father, Liam O'Dwyer, was eventually Battalion Commandant of the 3rd > West Cork Brigade. He took the anti-Treaty side in the Civil War. But, he > bore no grievance against anybody when the War was over. He felt that he > was right; others felt that they were right. That is the worst of a Civil > War. > ---- Riobard. > On 4 April 2012 16:42, Judith Casey <[1]judith@judithcasey.plus.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Lisa, > > please will you send me a copy to. > > Many thanks. > > Judith. > > > > On 04/04/2012 00:28, Lisa OSullivan wrote: > > > > > > Riobard, > > > > > > I just received the Witness Statement of Liam O'Dwyer of Ardgroom, > Co. > > Co., C/C > > > Castletownbere Battalion, Cork 111 Brigade, IRA. > > > > > > He notes his uncle Liam who was a teacher in Eyries National School. > > > > > > Surely, you've already seen all these records, but if you'd like a > copy > > of this > > > statement for yourself, please e-mail me and I will send it to you. > > > > > > For all, these names are listed as officers of the company. > > > > > > O/C John O'Driscoll > > > 1st Lt. Dan Harrington (Causky) > > > 2nd Lt. Robert O'Dwyer (brother) > > > > > > I just recieved about 10 witness statements from the Castletown > Brigade, > > I still > > > need to look at and will post associated names as I review. > > > > > > > > > Lisa O'Sullivan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [2]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [3]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [4]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. mailto:judith@judithcasey.plus.com > 2. mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > 3. mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > 4. mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

He will be remembered, my sympathy to you and your family.  May he rest in peace. Lisa O' ________________________________ From: Bill Mulligan <billmulligan@murray-ky.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, April 5, 2012 6:02:42 PM Subject: [BEARA] Request As many of you know, I have no Beara roots myself, but an interest in the experience of Beara emigrants in the US.  Please remember my father, William H. Mulligan, Sr.,  in your prayers.  He died on March 29th two weeks short of his 89th birthday and was buried Monday April 2.  He was proud of his Irish roots and passed that pride on to me. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message