Bill a chara, my people lived through it and take it from me, from the family lore accounts it did feel more like the 109 than the 9 to them as I am sure that it did to the other victims! Slan is beannacht, Donal On 5/9/12, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > Of course the subject line should read 1595-1603, not 1703. It wasn't > the 109 years war. > > Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> writes: > >> Dear friends of Beara, >> >> While this first podcast focuses on Dublin, it discusses the Nine >> Years War which affected everyone in Ireland at the time. >> >> http://irishhistorypodcast.ie/2012/05/09/special-the-nine-years-war-and-the-great-dublin-explosion-of-1597/ >> >> In Beara, the Irish forces rallied to the MacCarthy clan. >> >> http://www.theirishstory.com/2011/04/13/the-maccarthys-and-the-nine-years-war-in-munster-1595-1603/#.T6rZa8VeCSp >> >> -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Aye Bill, and some that are writing too! Slan is beannacht, Donal. On 5/9/12, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > Hello all, > > For those who might want the book without having to pay the high > postage, I note that new and used copies are also available through > amazon.com and bookfinder.com > > Not wishing to deny the good people at O'Mahoney's the business, but I > suspect a good many of us reading this need to save whatever pennies > we can. > > Best, > > Bill Gawne > > donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> writes: > >> Hi Folks, another resource for you : O'Mahoney's is a small Munster >> based bookshop chain, I am posting the reference here as one of their >> branches service University College, Limerick. >> >> http://www.omahonys.ie/catalog/index.php?l=t >> >> To-day I see a new batch of An Duanaire, poems of the dispossessed >> 1600-1900 in stock in their college book shop. There are about 100 >> poems in Gaelic with facing page English translation, there is a fine >> introduction and some good footnotes. It is the voice of the Gael in >> decline and presents a unique overview of a vanishing Ireland as both >> chronicled and lamented over by the Irish poets of the day. >> >> The price is EUR 15, which is quite reasonable, but postage >> unfortunately costs the same ammount again bringing the total cost to >> EUR 30 which, while not cheap, is never the less good value in regard to >> contents for any interested.It was first published in 1981 and has >> become a standard reference work. >> >> The revised edition is over A5 in size and has around 400 pages. >> >> Slan is beannacht, Donal O >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- Bill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Of course the subject line should read 1595-1603, not 1703. It wasn't the 109 years war. Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> writes: > Dear friends of Beara, > > While this first podcast focuses on Dublin, it discusses the Nine > Years War which affected everyone in Ireland at the time. > > http://irishhistorypodcast.ie/2012/05/09/special-the-nine-years-war-and-the-great-dublin-explosion-of-1597/ > > In Beara, the Irish forces rallied to the MacCarthy clan. > > http://www.theirishstory.com/2011/04/13/the-maccarthys-and-the-nine-years-war-in-munster-1595-1603/#.T6rZa8VeCSp > > -- Bill

Dear friends of Beara, While this first podcast focuses on Dublin, it discusses the Nine Years War which affected everyone in Ireland at the time. http://irishhistorypodcast.ie/2012/05/09/special-the-nine-years-war-and-the-great-dublin-explosion-of-1597/ In Beara, the Irish forces rallied to the MacCarthy clan. http://www.theirishstory.com/2011/04/13/the-maccarthys-and-the-nine-years-war-in-munster-1595-1603/#.T6rZa8VeCSp -- Bill

Hello all, For those who might want the book without having to pay the high postage, I note that new and used copies are also available through amazon.com and bookfinder.com Not wishing to deny the good people at O'Mahoney's the business, but I suspect a good many of us reading this need to save whatever pennies we can. Best, Bill Gawne donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> writes: > Hi Folks, another resource for you : O'Mahoney's is a small Munster > based bookshop chain, I am posting the reference here as one of their > branches service University College, Limerick. > > http://www.omahonys.ie/catalog/index.php?l=t > > To-day I see a new batch of An Duanaire, poems of the dispossessed > 1600-1900 in stock in their college book shop. There are about 100 > poems in Gaelic with facing page English translation, there is a fine > introduction and some good footnotes. It is the voice of the Gael in > decline and presents a unique overview of a vanishing Ireland as both > chronicled and lamented over by the Irish poets of the day. > > The price is EUR 15, which is quite reasonable, but postage > unfortunately costs the same ammount again bringing the total cost to > EUR 30 which, while not cheap, is never the less good value in regard to > contents for any interested.It was first published in 1981 and has > become a standard reference work. > > The revised edition is over A5 in size and has around 400 pages. > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Bill

Hi Folks, another resource for you : O'Mahoney's is a small Munster based bookshop chain, I am posting the reference here as one of their branches service University College, Limerick. http://www.omahonys.ie/catalog/index.php?l=t To-day I see a new batch of An Duanaire, poems of the dispossessed 1600-1900 in stock in their college book shop. There are about 100 poems in Gaelic with facing page English translation, there is a fine introduction and some good footnotes. It is the voice of the Gael in decline and presents a unique overview of a vanishing Ireland as both chronicled and lamented over by the Irish poets of the day. The price is € 15, which is quite reasonable, but postage unfortunately costs the same ammount again bringing the total cost to € 30 which, while not cheap, is never the less good value in regard to contents for any interested.It was first published in 1981 and has become a standard reference work. The revised edition is over A5 in size and has around 400 pages. Slan is beannacht, Donal O

Bill a chara uasal, re Kinsale circa 1518 you are correct of course re 'The Planter' town reference : it's down to nomenclature. The Gaelic poets such a O'Rallaigh described The Normans and those to The Elizabethan stock as 'Old foreigners' while the post Elizabethans were the 'New Foreigners' He also referred to the Cromwellian as 'Na Diabhail Nua'...... the new devils as distinct from the 'Old Devils' of the Norman period. This was pretty much the Gaelic Ireland outlook until the United Irishmen changed the cultural landscape and attempted to mid-wife their vision of a new United Ireland of Catholic, Protestant and dissenter. The young Irelanders of the next generation took things another turn, they by in large were responsible for inventing 'The Normans' in that to the Desmond Rebellion and the Elizabethan Wars, there were 'good' colonizers, and in forging a new Nationalist identify they re-wrote the past and as it suited IRB propaganda needs, the latter took up the image and ran with it. So back to Kinsale : when I described the walled town of the period as a 'Planter Town', it would have been more correct to have described as an Anglo/Norman, English settler Town with a Gaelic Irish and mixed-race presence! ( Of course to the visitors it was in Ireland and therefore an Irish Town !) Slan is beannacht, Donal On 5/8/12, psregister <psregister@comcast.net> wrote: >  I was in Kisale recently.  According to the history provided with the town > map, "the earliest records show that a small walled area was founded as the > town of Kinsale in the 12th century by the Anglo-Normans.  By the time it > received it's first charter from Edward III of England in 1334, Kinsale was > already a thriving town and port" > > We also visited the well done mine museum in Ahillies.  The most striking > display for me was the panel which spoke to the very meger means from which > they existed and the general absence of reading and writing in the 1800's. > > Patrick > > Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote:Hello Donal, all, > > donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> writes: > >> Hi folks : posted this last night but fort some reason it is not showing >> up! > > I got both copies.  They're showing up in the list archives too.  So I > have no idea why they haven't made their way back to Donal's mailbox. > Perhaps they'll have appeared by now. > >> Apparently some are not finding the CELT site as easy to >> navigate as I thought they could. > > It seems pretty straightforward to me.  But if anybody is having > difficulty and would like a plain text transcript of the account, I > can create one.  Just let me know. > > [...] >> I should also have drawn attention to the fact that Kinsale was at >> that time a  Planter Garrison Walled Town and as such of English >> rather than Irish character, with 'The Irish' present probably in the >> main, representative of the servant class and the lower strata of >> Irish society. > > For those interested in what, exactly, a "Planter Garrison Walled > Town" was, this Wikipedia article is reasonably good: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland > > However, I'm a bit surprised that Kinsale would have been a Planter > Garrison as early as 1518, when Vitale's account was written.  My > understanding is that the earliest plantations began in the 1550s, a > good 30 years later.  I'm wondering if Kinsale was something like > Limerick, a walled town with a trade-based economy that had > connections to the Norse fleets?  Perhaps someone with more knowledge > of the local history can elaborate?  All the "history of Kinsale" > websites I can find seem to think that History began in Kinsale in > 1601, with the famous battle. > > > -- Bill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

 I was in Kisale recently.  According to the history provided with the town map, "the earliest records show that a small walled area was founded as the town of Kinsale in the 12th century by the Anglo-Normans.  By the time it received it's first charter from Edward III of England in 1334, Kinsale was already a thriving town and port" We also visited the well done mine museum in Ahillies.  The most striking display for me was the panel which spoke to the very meger means from which they existed and the general absence of reading and writing in the 1800's.   Patrick Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote:Hello Donal, all, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> writes: > Hi folks : posted this last night but fort some reason it is not showing up! I got both copies.  They're showing up in the list archives too.  So I  have no idea why they haven't made their way back to Donal's mailbox.   Perhaps they'll have appeared by now. > Apparently some are not finding the CELT site as easy to > navigate as I thought they could. It seems pretty straightforward to me.  But if anybody is having  difficulty and would like a plain text transcript of the account, I  can create one.  Just let me know. [...] > I should also have drawn attention to the fact that Kinsale was at > that time a  Planter Garrison Walled Town and as such of English > rather than Irish character, with 'The Irish' present probably in the > main, representative of the servant class and the lower strata of > Irish society. For those interested in what, exactly, a "Planter Garrison Walled  Town" was, this Wikipedia article is reasonably good:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland However, I'm a bit surprised that Kinsale would have been a Planter  Garrison as early as 1518, when Vitale's account was written.  My  understanding is that the earliest plantations began in the 1550s, a  good 30 years later.  I'm wondering if Kinsale was something like  Limerick, a walled town with a trade-based economy that had  connections to the Norse fleets?  Perhaps someone with more knowledge  of the local history can elaborate?  All the "history of Kinsale"  websites I can find seem to think that History began in Kinsale in  1601, with the famous battle. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks; for those who may be interested or have need of this, there is a very good Gaelic / English dictionary also available on line from the UCC, CELT resource. http://www.ucc.ie/celt/Dinneen1sted.pdf Cannon Dineen, the compiler, was from the Sliabh Luachra area, his family lived between Millstreet and Rathmore in Co Kerry along the foothills of the Mountains. He became a Jesuit Priest and was closely associated with some of the leading figures of the 1916 Rising. The Military Council of the IRB, the body that actually planned the Insurrection held their meetings in his rooms which had been made available by him. The dictionary is not alone a good resource for translation, but also when certain simple words such as 'Briseadh' or 'buailim' etc are examined and seen in the context of some of their possible ramifications, then something of the depth and sophistication and richness of the Irish Language become apparent. For those not conversant with Gaelic, try scrolling down the word listings and examine in detail any word with a dozen or more different applications. This exercise repeated will quickly build up an appreciation in the reader and provide a window into Gaelic Culture. Slan is beannacht, Donal O'

Hi folks : posted this last night but fort some reason it is not showing up! Apparently some are not finding the CELT site as easy to navigate as I thought they could. This is the actual article referred to on the Irish Times site in my ems earlier to-night. I should also have drawn attention to the fact that Kinsale was at that time a Planter Garrison Walled Town and as such of English rather than Irish character, with 'The Irish' present probably in the main, representative of the servant class and the lower strata of Irish society. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0505/1224315650653.html Here also is another article that may also be of interest to some of you that I had also taken a cut & paste of from the Irish Times. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/0505/1224315628956.html Enjoy! Slan is beannacht, Donal O'

Hello Donal, all, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> writes: > Hi folks : posted this last night but fort some reason it is not showing up! I got both copies. They're showing up in the list archives too. So I have no idea why they haven't made their way back to Donal's mailbox. Perhaps they'll have appeared by now. > Apparently some are not finding the CELT site as easy to > navigate as I thought they could. It seems pretty straightforward to me. But if anybody is having difficulty and would like a plain text transcript of the account, I can create one. Just let me know. [...] > I should also have drawn attention to the fact that Kinsale was at > that time a Planter Garrison Walled Town and as such of English > rather than Irish character, with 'The Irish' present probably in the > main, representative of the servant class and the lower strata of > Irish society. For those interested in what, exactly, a "Planter Garrison Walled Town" was, this Wikipedia article is reasonably good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland However, I'm a bit surprised that Kinsale would have been a Planter Garrison as early as 1518, when Vitale's account was written. My understanding is that the earliest plantations began in the 1550s, a good 30 years later. I'm wondering if Kinsale was something like Limerick, a walled town with a trade-based economy that had connections to the Norse fleets? Perhaps someone with more knowledge of the local history can elaborate? All the "history of Kinsale" websites I can find seem to think that History began in Kinsale in 1601, with the famous battle. -- Bill

Hello all, and especially Donal, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> writes: > As my friend the late Sean McCarthy ( of Shanagolden and all those > fine songs fame) said in similar situation when faced with the > possibility of a stoma operation himself " Sweet Loving heart of > J......, but don't it bate wearing a wooden overcoat " ? It certainly > do, true I will not be doing any mountain climbing in the near future > but I just had a very pleasant afternoon walking around in town. I suspect most things this side of the grave beat a wooden overcoat, but yes, it's good to have Donal O here with us, telling tales and entertaining us in his fine bardic manner. May there be many more of those pleasant afternoon walks, and if they sometimes inspire another tale, all the better. [...] > I have been lined up for a few more of these exercises. Remember that > old Johnny Cash song ' I am the linesman for the County?' While Johnny Cash did cover it, I have to note that it was originally recorded by Glen Campbell and written by Jimmy Webb (the songwriter, not the senator from Virginia.) But of course that's beside the point of Donal's story. It's just my compulsive nature to make sure singers and songwriters get the credit they're due. > Seems I have a new interim post, ex-officio, I am now apparently > 'The Bag Man for the County! They always leave you holding the bag, eh? Yes, I can see this as a source of endless humor. -- Bill

Thanks for the links, Donal! It's a fun read. For those like myself, that haven't mastered the French language, here is the link to the translated diary pages... http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/T500000-001/ (Apologies if this was previously sent.) John

Thank you, Donal. What a wonderful treasure trove! I'm really looking forward to exploring. Maggie Duffy ----- Original Message ----- From: "donal O'Siodhachain" <dospoet@gmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 5:49 PM Subject: [BEARA] (no subject) > Hi Folks : time to start a new thread here as 'our friend Donal' is > well, very well indeed under the circumstances! > > As my friend the late Sean McCarthy ( of Shanagolden and all those > fine songs fame) said in similar situation when faced with the > possibility of a stoma operation himself " Sweet Loving heart of > J......, but don't it bate wearing a wooden overcoat " ? It certainly > do, true I will not be doing any mountain climbing in the near future > but I just had a very pleasant afternoon walking around in town. > > Life is good and relatively pain free TG. Last week I was asked to > volunteer to be one of the subjects for a fourth year medical students > examination exercise, I agreed and last Thursday I had around twenty > trainee doctors doing their bit. for five minutes at three minute > intervals. Would not be fair to those concerned to detail the > experience, but they were and indeed are, a fine bunch of young people > and a credit to our University Of Limerick. > > I have been lined up for a few more of these exercises. Remember that > old Johnny Cash song ' I am the linesman for the County?' Seems I > have a new interim post, ex-officio, I am now apparently 'The Bag Man > for the County! > > Medical up-date over, now down to the real business, here is a fine > resource for all interested in a bit of history, I may have already > given it, if so no harm in repeating it. http://www.ucc.ie/celt/ > > The 'Irishman's Diary in the Irish Times usually carry a succinct and > engaging 1,000 word or so historical or other vignette, > fmcnally@irish times.com to-days was based on the following > cited entry. > > Briefly a ship with the Arch Duke Ferdinand, teenage brother of > Charles V of Spain got blown off course and sheltered in Kinsale in > 1518 and his retinue included a diarist, Vital. This diary entry of > his inadvertent Irish visit was for various reasons virtually unknown, > but has recently been translated and is of enormous interest. > > Among other things it records that Irish Females of the period went > around with their shirts open to the waist and with their breasts > exposed. He even went into some detail on the shape, texture and feel > of these same breasts! ( Hey...... just got a great idea for a > historical festival theme for Kinsale, !) Following is the source for > article referred to. > > This is the specific reference to the diary entries. Enjoy! > > http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/F500000-001/text001.html > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks : apparently some are not finding the CELT site as easy to navigate as I thought they could. This is the actual article referred to on the Irish Times site in my ems earlier to-night. I should also have drawn attention to the fact that Kinsale was at that time a Planter Garrison Walled Town and as such of English rather than Irish character, with 'The Irish' present probably in the main, representative of the servant class and the lower strata of Irish society. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2012/0505/1224315650653.html Here also is another article that may also be of interest to some of you that I had also taken a cut & paste of from the Irish Times. http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/weekend/2012/0505/1224315628956.html Enjoy! Slan is beannacht, Donal O'

Correction on irish Times em address... regrets for error, DOS! The 'Irishman's Diary in the Irish Times usually carry a succinct and engaging 1,000 word or so historical or other vignette, fmcnally@irishtimes.com to-days was based on the following cited entry. On 5/5/12, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Folks : time to start a new thread here as 'our friend Donal' is > well, very well indeed under the circumstances! > > As my friend the late Sean McCarthy ( of Shanagolden and all those > fine songs fame) said in similar situation when faced with the > possibility of a stoma operation himself " Sweet Loving heart of > J......, but don't it bate wearing a wooden overcoat " ? It certainly > do, true I will not be doing any mountain climbing in the near future > but I just had a very pleasant afternoon walking around in town. > > Life is good and relatively pain free TG. Last week I was asked to > volunteer to be one of the subjects for a fourth year medical students > examination exercise, I agreed and last Thursday I had around twenty > trainee doctors doing their bit. for five minutes at three minute > intervals. Would not be fair to those concerned to detail the > experience, but they were and indeed are, a fine bunch of young people > and a credit to our University Of Limerick. > > I have been lined up for a few more of these exercises. Remember that > old Johnny Cash song ' I am the linesman for the County?' Seems I > have a new interim post, ex-officio, I am now apparently 'The Bag Man > for the County! > > Medical up-date over, now down to the real business, here is a fine > resource for all interested in a bit of history, I may have already > given it, if so no harm in repeating it. http://www.ucc.ie/celt/ > > The 'Irishman's Diary in the Irish Times usually carry a succinct and > engaging 1,000 word or so historical or other vignette, > fmcnally@irish times.com to-days was based on the following > cited entry. > > Briefly a ship with the Arch Duke Ferdinand, teenage brother of > Charles V of Spain got blown off course and sheltered in Kinsale in > 1518 and his retinue included a diarist, Vital. This diary entry of > his inadvertent Irish visit was for various reasons virtually unknown, > but has recently been translated and is of enormous interest. > > Among other things it records that Irish Females of the period went > around with their shirts open to the waist and with their breasts > exposed. He even went into some detail on the shape, texture and feel > of these same breasts! ( Hey...... just got a great idea for a > historical festival theme for Kinsale, !) Following is the source for > article referred to. > > This is the specific reference to the diary entries. Enjoy! > > http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/F500000-001/text001.html > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Folks : time to start a new thread here as 'our friend Donal' is well, very well indeed under the circumstances! As my friend the late Sean McCarthy ( of Shanagolden and all those fine songs fame) said in similar situation when faced with the possibility of a stoma operation himself " Sweet Loving heart of J......, but don't it bate wearing a wooden overcoat " ? It certainly do, true I will not be doing any mountain climbing in the near future but I just had a very pleasant afternoon walking around in town. Life is good and relatively pain free TG. Last week I was asked to volunteer to be one of the subjects for a fourth year medical students examination exercise, I agreed and last Thursday I had around twenty trainee doctors doing their bit. for five minutes at three minute intervals. Would not be fair to those concerned to detail the experience, but they were and indeed are, a fine bunch of young people and a credit to our University Of Limerick. I have been lined up for a few more of these exercises. Remember that old Johnny Cash song ' I am the linesman for the County?' Seems I have a new interim post, ex-officio, I am now apparently 'The Bag Man for the County! Medical up-date over, now down to the real business, here is a fine resource for all interested in a bit of history, I may have already given it, if so no harm in repeating it. http://www.ucc.ie/celt/ The 'Irishman's Diary in the Irish Times usually carry a succinct and engaging 1,000 word or so historical or other vignette, fmcnally@irish times.com to-days was based on the following cited entry. Briefly a ship with the Arch Duke Ferdinand, teenage brother of Charles V of Spain got blown off course and sheltered in Kinsale in 1518 and his retinue included a diarist, Vital. This diary entry of his inadvertent Irish visit was for various reasons virtually unknown, but has recently been translated and is of enormous interest. Among other things it records that Irish Females of the period went around with their shirts open to the waist and with their breasts exposed. He even went into some detail on the shape, texture and feel of these same breasts! ( Hey...... just got a great idea for a historical festival theme for Kinsale, !) Following is the source for article referred to. This is the specific reference to the diary entries. Enjoy! http://www.ucc.ie/celt/published/F500000-001/text001.html Slan is beannacht, Donal O

Hi Phil, Ginny and all : there is a very good reason as to why discussions on religion and politics are banned in Masonic Loges and Pubs, people can have strong views on both subjects. ( Incidently turned 63 at 4.45 this May Morning and it good to be alive and well TG ) I find it hilarious that some English friends can tolerate my IRA past and the fact that I was on a hunger and thirst strike as a political prisoner in Britain easier than they can the fact that I am a believing Catholic prepared to defend and articulate the Celtic and Western Christian belief and tradition. When I gave a provisional farewell ( no pun intended) on Sunday morning, the 16th last, during an interrupted lecture and said that if the worst came to the worst, it was still the best for me and I was going home in every sense of the word. I know that some were thinking as they applauded,.... " What a brave chap, golly good form what, pity he is so hung up and deluded in this Irish Catholic thing ! " As my late mother would say " Just wait until they wake up dead some monday morning and they will have their eyes opened about a few things "! Incidently the man who drove me to the airport is Chris Miller who was more infamously known as Rat Scabies in the Punk Rock era when at the end of his act he always set fire to his drums...... until he burned down a bloody stage and that finished that ! His parents are leading figures in our Sauniere Society. I hope that Bill forgives this digression, I am aware of the primary purpose of this page, a history, religious or other vignette may be of interest to a broad readership, a detailed mini essay on the same subject probably is not and it is for this reason that I suggested, and Bill kindly agreed our sister page. Now that I am again starting to fire on all cylinders, I will continue the vignettes here and do a proper academic mini essay on the sister page where a follow up will seem warranted. ( Henry Lincoln is a personal friend as is Robert Feather, Clive Prince, Lynn Pickett, Andrew St Clair and dozens of other writers/ researchers in this whole Da V. code area. I am available to all for Celtic Church, Celtic Civilization matters, I am sure that there are dozens out there interested in these areas also but it is not for here in Roots whatever of a digression on the sister page ! ) Again my thanks to all for your prayers and wishes, Slan is beannacht, Donal O On 5/1/12, jay and ginny humling <humling@centurytel.net> wrote: > Doanl, > I hope to have the link as well. > Thanks, ginny h > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Twomey" <mtpv@arcatanet.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Our friend Donal is not well > > >>I also would like this link...thanks so much! >> >> Susan T. >> >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:59 AM, Susan Haines wrote: >> >>> I would be interested, Donal, but would like a link to the "sister >>> site". Thank you. Sue >>> >> >> >>>> ...If there is enough interest I will do an essay on Celtic >>>> Spirituality >>>> for Bill in the sister site, it was for things such as this that the >>>> page was conceived for! >>>> >>>> Slan is beannacht, Donal O >>>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

All, The "sister site" Donal often refers to is http://bearaschildren.blogspot.com/ -- Bill

Thanks, Donal. I'm glad you're "firing on all cylinders" again. Do you have the link for the sister site? Thanks! Phil ---- donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: ============= Hi Phil, Ginny and all : there is a very good reason as to why discussions on religion and politics are banned in Masonic Loges and Pubs, people can have strong views on both subjects. ( Incidently turned 63 at 4.45 this May Morning and it good to be alive and well TG ) I find it hilarious that some English friends can tolerate my IRA past and the fact that I was on a hunger and thirst strike as a political prisoner in Britain easier than they can the fact that I am a believing Catholic prepared to defend and articulate the Celtic and Western Christian belief and tradition. When I gave a provisional farewell ( no pun intended) on Sunday morning, the 16th last, during an interrupted lecture and said that if the worst came to the worst, it was still the best for me and I was going home in every sense of the word. I know that some were thinking as they applauded,.... " What a brave chap, golly good form what, pity he is so hung up and deluded in this Irish Catholic thing ! " As my late mother would say " Just wait until they wake up dead some monday morning and they will have their eyes opened about a few things "! Incidently the man who drove me to the airport is Chris Miller who was more infamously known as Rat Scabies in the Punk Rock era when at the end of his act he always set fire to his drums...... until he burned down a bloody stage and that finished that ! His parents are leading figures in our Sauniere Society. I hope that Bill forgives this digression, I am aware of the primary purpose of this page, a history, religious or other vignette may be of interest to a broad readership, a detailed mini essay on the same subject probably is not and it is for this reason that I suggested, and Bill kindly agreed our sister page. Now that I am again starting to fire on all cylinders, I will continue the vignettes here and do a proper academic mini essay on the sister page where a follow up will seem warranted. ( Henry Lincoln is a personal friend as is Robert Feather, Clive Prince, Lynn Pickett, Andrew St Clair and dozens of other writers/ researchers in this whole Da V. code area. I am available to all for Celtic Church, Celtic Civilization matters, I am sure that there are dozens out there interested in these areas also but it is not for here in Roots whatever of a digression on the sister page ! ) Again my thanks to all for your prayers and wishes, Slan is beannacht, Donal O On 5/1/12, jay and ginny humling <humling@centurytel.net> wrote: > Doanl, > I hope to have the link as well. > Thanks, ginny h > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Twomey" <mtpv@arcatanet.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:07 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Our friend Donal is not well > > >>I also would like this link...thanks so much! >> >> Susan T. >> >> On Apr 30, 2012, at 5:59 AM, Susan Haines wrote: >> >>> I would be interested, Donal, but would like a link to the "sister >>> site". Thank you. Sue >>> >> >> >>>> ...If there is enough interest I will do an essay on Celtic >>>> Spirituality >>>> for Bill in the sister site, it was for things such as this that the >>>> page was conceived for! >>>> >>>> Slan is beannacht, Donal O >>>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message