Donal. Put together ar fheabhas. Hope you are well on the way to recovery. Riobard. On 20 July 2012 20:42, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > Riobard and friends : good story about the horse; brings to mind something > something similar from the last quarter of the 19th, century in Rathmore Co > Kerry. > > > "They were doing fine with writing out the Report until they came to the > word Aluminum [by the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]." > > In the old days a tailor's iron was called a 'goose'. One of the village > tailor was a man that was a bit touchy and sensitive about his dignity, > which of course meant that the 'prime boys' were always pulling pranks on > him and sending him up to 'get a rise out of him' and they were seldom > disappointed! > > One evening while reading the newspaper he see tailors irons on offer at a > good price in Dublin and he decided to order two. " Woman. pen, ink and > paper" came the command, his wife obliged he began writing , scribed away > in silence and then cleared his throat. " Dear sirs, in response to your > advertised offer re tailors accouterments, please find enclosed money and > dispatch to me for personal collection at Rathmore Railway Station, two > tailors geese. Signed Thimoty, Joseph Moriarity, Gentleman's Tailor, > Rathmore, Co Kerry. Well what do you think of that woman, straight and to > the point isn't it "? > > Wife, " I do not know Tim, are two irons together called geese" ? A bit of > head scratching " Do you know woman you could be right" , letter thrown on > the fire and off he went again, then read out the second attempt. Wife " > That's worse Tim, two gooses sound definitely wrong, even I know that" > > " Well, well woman I have enough here laughing at me around here without > adding Dublin caboges to the list " More head scratching, more thinking and > the writing started again. Then he read out the completed draft. > > " Dear sirs, in response to your advertised offer, please find enclosed > money and dispatch to me for personal collection at Rathmore Railway > Station, one tailors goose. Signed Thimoty, Joseph Moriarity, Gentleman's > Tailor, Rathmore, Co Kerry. > > PS : sure when you are sending one you may as well send another and I am > enclosing money for two ! > > As the local Seanachai ( storyteller) uses to say tapping his head " Up > here for thinking " and then pointing to his feet " Down there for dancing" > ! > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Dear Dr. Dan, > > Seeing that they were two strong men, they must have > been > > from Beara. Oh, what I would give to be in Butte for the St. Patrick's > Day > > celebrations. I would love to be filling in, in place of those mighty > > well-loved people, the late John "the Yank" and Fr. Sarsfield O'Sullivan. > > When I was alot younger, I was absolutely thrilled when I went on my trip > > to Butte. The people of Butte were, as they say, "the salt of the earth". > > But, age has taken over from me. I can no longer leap as far in the hop, > > step, & jump (or triple jump). So, all I can do now is to dream of the > > times that were. > > You are all very welcome to drop in to my home in > Eyeries > > whenever you come to Ireland, and, don't worry, I will play a few lively > > jigs for you on my faithful accordion. > > All the best, > > Riobard (and Joan). > > > > > > On 19 July 2012 21:30, Dr. Dan Harrington <dan@destinyuniversity.edu.lc > > >wrote: > > > > > Hi Riobard; > > > > > > As I think you know, that is a long haul, pulling a horse, and it's up > > > hill!!! > > > > > > I hope to see you in Butte one of these days. You would make a GREAT > > head > > > of the St. Patrick > > > s day celebration, or anything else in Butte. You are probably one of > > the > > > best known people in the Mining City. > > > > > > Barbara and I enjoyed our visit with you at your home in County Cork > > > several years ago, and I always enjoy your posts to this group. Keep > > them > > > coming. > > > > > > Dan Harrington > > > Butte > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Riobard O' Dwyer > > > <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > > > I have read over and over that absolutely excellent book: "Butte; > > > memories > > > > of a mining camp" by Jim Edwards and Kevin Shannon. It was an > education > > > to > > > > get the real meaning of the various Butte mining words. Despite the > > > > extremely strenuous and dangerous work of the miners, several of whom > > > went > > > > there from Beara (and many of whom never again were to see home due > to > > > > deaths from terrible mining accidents, T.B., etc.), there were some > > > > absolutely humorous stories, highlight of whom to me was that about > the > > > two > > > > men who were sent by Jere "the Wise" Murphy, the Chief of the Police > > > there > > > > during the Depression Years of the 1930's, to go down to Aluminum > > Street > > > to > > > > write a report on a horse that was killed by a car there. They were > > doing > > > > fine with writing out the Report until they came to the word Aluminum > > [by > > > > the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]. They weren't able to > > > spell > > > > the word Aliminum, so, in order to explain properly about the > accident > > to > > > > the Police, they dragged the dead horse all the way up Aluminum > Street > > to > > > > Park Street !!! > > > > ---- Riobard. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes > > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
Riobard and friends : good story about the horse; brings to mind something something similar from the last quarter of the 19th, century in Rathmore Co Kerry. "They were doing fine with writing out the Report until they came to the word Aluminum [by the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]." In the old days a tailor's iron was called a 'goose'. One of the village tailor was a man that was a bit touchy and sensitive about his dignity, which of course meant that the 'prime boys' were always pulling pranks on him and sending him up to 'get a rise out of him' and they were seldom disappointed! One evening while reading the newspaper he see tailors irons on offer at a good price in Dublin and he decided to order two. " Woman. pen, ink and paper" came the command, his wife obliged he began writing , scribed away in silence and then cleared his throat. " Dear sirs, in response to your advertised offer re tailors accouterments, please find enclosed money and dispatch to me for personal collection at Rathmore Railway Station, two tailors geese. Signed Thimoty, Joseph Moriarity, Gentleman's Tailor, Rathmore, Co Kerry. Well what do you think of that woman, straight and to the point isn't it "? Wife, " I do not know Tim, are two irons together called geese" ? A bit of head scratching " Do you know woman you could be right" , letter thrown on the fire and off he went again, then read out the second attempt. Wife " That's worse Tim, two gooses sound definitely wrong, even I know that" " Well, well woman I have enough here laughing at me around here without adding Dublin caboges to the list " More head scratching, more thinking and the writing started again. Then he read out the completed draft. " Dear sirs, in response to your advertised offer, please find enclosed money and dispatch to me for personal collection at Rathmore Railway Station, one tailors goose. Signed Thimoty, Joseph Moriarity, Gentleman's Tailor, Rathmore, Co Kerry. PS : sure when you are sending one you may as well send another and I am enclosing money for two ! As the local Seanachai ( storyteller) uses to say tapping his head " Up here for thinking " and then pointing to his feet " Down there for dancing" ! Slan is beannacht, Donal O' On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > Dear Dr. Dan, > Seeing that they were two strong men, they must have been > from Beara. Oh, what I would give to be in Butte for the St. Patrick's Day > celebrations. I would love to be filling in, in place of those mighty > well-loved people, the late John "the Yank" and Fr. Sarsfield O'Sullivan. > When I was alot younger, I was absolutely thrilled when I went on my trip > to Butte. The people of Butte were, as they say, "the salt of the earth". > But, age has taken over from me. I can no longer leap as far in the hop, > step, & jump (or triple jump). So, all I can do now is to dream of the > times that were. > You are all very welcome to drop in to my home in Eyeries > whenever you come to Ireland, and, don't worry, I will play a few lively > jigs for you on my faithful accordion. > All the best, > Riobard (and Joan). > > > On 19 July 2012 21:30, Dr. Dan Harrington <dan@destinyuniversity.edu.lc > >wrote: > > > Hi Riobard; > > > > As I think you know, that is a long haul, pulling a horse, and it's up > > hill!!! > > > > I hope to see you in Butte one of these days. You would make a GREAT > head > > of the St. Patrick > > s day celebration, or anything else in Butte. You are probably one of > the > > best known people in the Mining City. > > > > Barbara and I enjoyed our visit with you at your home in County Cork > > several years ago, and I always enjoy your posts to this group. Keep > them > > coming. > > > > Dan Harrington > > Butte > > > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Riobard O' Dwyer > > <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > I have read over and over that absolutely excellent book: "Butte; > > memories > > > of a mining camp" by Jim Edwards and Kevin Shannon. It was an education > > to > > > get the real meaning of the various Butte mining words. Despite the > > > extremely strenuous and dangerous work of the miners, several of whom > > went > > > there from Beara (and many of whom never again were to see home due to > > > deaths from terrible mining accidents, T.B., etc.), there were some > > > absolutely humorous stories, highlight of whom to me was that about the > > two > > > men who were sent by Jere "the Wise" Murphy, the Chief of the Police > > there > > > during the Depression Years of the 1930's, to go down to Aluminum > Street > > to > > > write a report on a horse that was killed by a car there. They were > doing > > > fine with writing out the Report until they came to the word Aluminum > [by > > > the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]. They weren't able to > > spell > > > the word Aliminum, so, in order to explain properly about the accident > to > > > the Police, they dragged the dead horse all the way up Aluminum Street > to > > > Park Street !!! > > > ---- Riobard. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes > > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Hi Margaret, I preclude myself at the moment from going any further. It could happen that a ghost would appear to me in the middle of a night saying: "A shut mouth catches no flies". As ever, Riobard. On 20 July 2012 16:19, Margaret Duffy <mmduffy@mindspring.com> wrote: > Hi Riobard, > > I remember my mother telling me about that period in the early 20s when the > PP of Eyeries and the curate were at odds. Wasn't one of them later a > canon > in Castletownbere? > > Maggie Duffy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:53 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula odds & ends. > > > *While cleaning out the cupboard for the Eyeries Festival I found these > bits that may be of interest to your readers: > 1) Dog Licences: Back from 1869 - 1878. the Clerk of Petty Sessions got > £17. 10. O. for the amount received by him for the fees and fines for Dog > Licences, with the promise of an upward revision every third year depending > on the Clerk's own exertions on licensing the greatest number of dogs. The > salary of the Clerk for the years 1879- 1880 was then fixed at £27, plus > £3-4-2 expenses allowance. > 2) For all of 1919 the Parish Priest of Eyeries refused to let his Curate, > enter the Curate's Record of Baptisms into the Eyeries Parish Records book. > The Curate didn't enter his 25 Baptisms of 1919, and 1 of Jan. 6th 1920, > until Jan. 15th 1920 when another Priest had been sent, first as > Administrator and later as P.P. of Eyeries, by the Bishop. Eventually the > former P.P. had to leave the Presbytery in Eyeries after a Court case in > Dublin between the former Parish Priest and the Bishop. Things were fairly > awkward in those days. I came across the story of a Parish Priest of > Eyeries who wasn't "getting on" with his Curate, and the two of them had to > be seperated by the man of the house at a Station (a Mass in the house) in > Urhan (a Townland in the Eyeries Parish). I heard another story of a Parish > Priest of Eyeries who also wasn't "getting on" with his Curate either. > There was a Station Mass in a house in Dromard (a Townland near Ardgroom in > the Eyeries Parish), and the woman of the house had set out a table for the > saying of Mass. The Parish Priest and his Curate started pulling the table > from one another because each one of them wanted to say the Mass first. > That wouldn't happen today. How things have changed !! > 3) In 1819 a Protestant Clergyman was to build a Glebe-House in a part of > Berehaven ---- "the present dwelling being a miserable thatched cabin, and > nearly a ruin". In 1834 the Protestant population of what is now the > present Castletownbere Catholic Parish was 185; two in what is now the > Eyeries Parish; and 93 in what is now the Allihies Parish. In 1837 a Divine > Service was performed in the "village" of Castletown on Sundays; and > occasionally at the Copper Mines in Allihies. In 1841 a new Protestant > Church (of Ireland and England) was built on a new site in > Castletown(bere). In 1845 a house on the Glebe of Allihies was licensed for > Divine Service. > 4) Before the Famine of 1845-1848, the whole population of Beara was almost > 20,000. It is now about a quarter of that. > 5) And, to end on a high note, seeing that a few women are still letting on > to be 3 years or so younger than what they really are ( !! ), a woman one > time, coming to Beara, was asked what age she was (What a question to ask a > lady !!), the answer she gave was: "Well, I suppose you could say that I > am in the youth of my maturity". Well, I suppose that closed the mouth of > the questioner. > ----- Riobard. > * > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
Dear Dr. Dan, Seeing that they were two strong men, they must have been from Beara. Oh, what I would give to be in Butte for the St. Patrick's Day celebrations. I would love to be filling in, in place of those mighty well-loved people, the late John "the Yank" and Fr. Sarsfield O'Sullivan. When I was alot younger, I was absolutely thrilled when I went on my trip to Butte. The people of Butte were, as they say, "the salt of the earth". But, age has taken over from me. I can no longer leap as far in the hop, step, & jump (or triple jump). So, all I can do now is to dream of the times that were. You are all very welcome to drop in to my home in Eyeries whenever you come to Ireland, and, don't worry, I will play a few lively jigs for you on my faithful accordion. All the best, Riobard (and Joan). On 19 July 2012 21:30, Dr. Dan Harrington <dan@destinyuniversity.edu.lc>wrote: > Hi Riobard; > > As I think you know, that is a long haul, pulling a horse, and it's up > hill!!! > > I hope to see you in Butte one of these days. You would make a GREAT head > of the St. Patrick > s day celebration, or anything else in Butte. You are probably one of the > best known people in the Mining City. > > Barbara and I enjoyed our visit with you at your home in County Cork > several years ago, and I always enjoy your posts to this group. Keep them > coming. > > Dan Harrington > Butte > > On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Riobard O' Dwyer > <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > > > I have read over and over that absolutely excellent book: "Butte; > memories > > of a mining camp" by Jim Edwards and Kevin Shannon. It was an education > to > > get the real meaning of the various Butte mining words. Despite the > > extremely strenuous and dangerous work of the miners, several of whom > went > > there from Beara (and many of whom never again were to see home due to > > deaths from terrible mining accidents, T.B., etc.), there were some > > absolutely humorous stories, highlight of whom to me was that about the > two > > men who were sent by Jere "the Wise" Murphy, the Chief of the Police > there > > during the Depression Years of the 1930's, to go down to Aluminum Street > to > > write a report on a horse that was killed by a car there. They were doing > > fine with writing out the Report until they came to the word Aluminum [by > > the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]. They weren't able to > spell > > the word Aliminum, so, in order to explain properly about the accident to > > the Police, they dragged the dead horse all the way up Aluminum Street to > > Park Street !!! > > ---- Riobard. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
*While cleaning out the cupboard for the Eyeries Festival I found these bits that may be of interest to your readers: 1) Dog Licences: Back from 1869 - 1878. the Clerk of Petty Sessions got £17. 10. O. for the amount received by him for the fees and fines for Dog Licences, with the promise of an upward revision every third year depending on the Clerk's own exertions on licensing the greatest number of dogs. The salary of the Clerk for the years 1879- 1880 was then fixed at £27, plus £3-4-2 expenses allowance. 2) For all of 1919 the Parish Priest of Eyeries refused to let his Curate, enter the Curate's Record of Baptisms into the Eyeries Parish Records book. The Curate didn't enter his 25 Baptisms of 1919, and 1 of Jan. 6th 1920, until Jan. 15th 1920 when another Priest had been sent, first as Administrator and later as P.P. of Eyeries, by the Bishop. Eventually the former P.P. had to leave the Presbytery in Eyeries after a Court case in Dublin between the former Parish Priest and the Bishop. Things were fairly awkward in those days. I came across the story of a Parish Priest of Eyeries who wasn't "getting on" with his Curate, and the two of them had to be seperated by the man of the house at a Station (a Mass in the house) in Urhan (a Townland in the Eyeries Parish). I heard another story of a Parish Priest of Eyeries who also wasn't "getting on" with his Curate either. There was a Station Mass in a house in Dromard (a Townland near Ardgroom in the Eyeries Parish), and the woman of the house had set out a table for the saying of Mass. The Parish Priest and his Curate started pulling the table from one another because each one of them wanted to say the Mass first. That wouldn't happen today. How things have changed !! 3) In 1819 a Protestant Clergyman was to build a Glebe-House in a part of Berehaven ---- "the present dwelling being a miserable thatched cabin, and nearly a ruin". In 1834 the Protestant population of what is now the present Castletownbere Catholic Parish was 185; two in what is now the Eyeries Parish; and 93 in what is now the Allihies Parish. In 1837 a Divine Service was performed in the "village" of Castletown on Sundays; and occasionally at the Copper Mines in Allihies. In 1841 a new Protestant Church (of Ireland and England) was built on a new site in Castletown(bere). In 1845 a house on the Glebe of Allihies was licensed for Divine Service. 4) Before the Famine of 1845-1848, the whole population of Beara was almost 20,000. It is now about a quarter of that. 5) And, to end on a high note, seeing that a few women are still letting on to be 3 years or so younger than what they really are ( !! ), a woman one time, coming to Beara, was asked what age she was (What a question to ask a lady !!), the answer she gave was: "Well, I suppose you could say that I am in the youth of my maturity". Well, I suppose that closed the mouth of the questioner. ----- Riobard. *
Hi Riobard, I remember my mother telling me about that period in the early 20s when the PP of Eyeries and the curate were at odds. Wasn't one of them later a canon in Castletownbere? Maggie Duffy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:53 AM Subject: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula odds & ends. *While cleaning out the cupboard for the Eyeries Festival I found these bits that may be of interest to your readers: 1) Dog Licences: Back from 1869 - 1878. the Clerk of Petty Sessions got £17. 10. O. for the amount received by him for the fees and fines for Dog Licences, with the promise of an upward revision every third year depending on the Clerk's own exertions on licensing the greatest number of dogs. The salary of the Clerk for the years 1879- 1880 was then fixed at £27, plus £3-4-2 expenses allowance. 2) For all of 1919 the Parish Priest of Eyeries refused to let his Curate, enter the Curate's Record of Baptisms into the Eyeries Parish Records book. The Curate didn't enter his 25 Baptisms of 1919, and 1 of Jan. 6th 1920, until Jan. 15th 1920 when another Priest had been sent, first as Administrator and later as P.P. of Eyeries, by the Bishop. Eventually the former P.P. had to leave the Presbytery in Eyeries after a Court case in Dublin between the former Parish Priest and the Bishop. Things were fairly awkward in those days. I came across the story of a Parish Priest of Eyeries who wasn't "getting on" with his Curate, and the two of them had to be seperated by the man of the house at a Station (a Mass in the house) in Urhan (a Townland in the Eyeries Parish). I heard another story of a Parish Priest of Eyeries who also wasn't "getting on" with his Curate either. There was a Station Mass in a house in Dromard (a Townland near Ardgroom in the Eyeries Parish), and the woman of the house had set out a table for the saying of Mass. The Parish Priest and his Curate started pulling the table from one another because each one of them wanted to say the Mass first. That wouldn't happen today. How things have changed !! 3) In 1819 a Protestant Clergyman was to build a Glebe-House in a part of Berehaven ---- "the present dwelling being a miserable thatched cabin, and nearly a ruin". In 1834 the Protestant population of what is now the present Castletownbere Catholic Parish was 185; two in what is now the Eyeries Parish; and 93 in what is now the Allihies Parish. In 1837 a Divine Service was performed in the "village" of Castletown on Sundays; and occasionally at the Copper Mines in Allihies. In 1841 a new Protestant Church (of Ireland and England) was built on a new site in Castletown(bere). In 1845 a house on the Glebe of Allihies was licensed for Divine Service. 4) Before the Famine of 1845-1848, the whole population of Beara was almost 20,000. It is now about a quarter of that. 5) And, to end on a high note, seeing that a few women are still letting on to be 3 years or so younger than what they really are ( !! ), a woman one time, coming to Beara, was asked what age she was (What a question to ask a lady !!), the answer she gave was: "Well, I suppose you could say that I am in the youth of my maturity". Well, I suppose that closed the mouth of the questioner. ----- Riobard. * ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have read over and over that absolutely excellent book: "Butte; memories of a mining camp" by Jim Edwards and Kevin Shannon. It was an education to get the real meaning of the various Butte mining words. Despite the extremely strenuous and dangerous work of the miners, several of whom went there from Beara (and many of whom never again were to see home due to deaths from terrible mining accidents, T.B., etc.), there were some absolutely humorous stories, highlight of whom to me was that about the two men who were sent by Jere "the Wise" Murphy, the Chief of the Police there during the Depression Years of the 1930's, to go down to Aluminum Street to write a report on a horse that was killed by a car there. They were doing fine with writing out the Report until they came to the word Aluminum [by the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]. They weren't able to spell the word Aliminum, so, in order to explain properly about the accident to the Police, they dragged the dead horse all the way up Aluminum Street to Park Street !!! ---- Riobard.
Hi Riobard; As I think you know, that is a long haul, pulling a horse, and it's up hill!!! I hope to see you in Butte one of these days. You would make a GREAT head of the St. Patrick s day celebration, or anything else in Butte. You are probably one of the best known people in the Mining City. Barbara and I enjoyed our visit with you at your home in County Cork several years ago, and I always enjoy your posts to this group. Keep them coming. Dan Harrington Butte On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > I have read over and over that absolutely excellent book: "Butte; memories > of a mining camp" by Jim Edwards and Kevin Shannon. It was an education to > get the real meaning of the various Butte mining words. Despite the > extremely strenuous and dangerous work of the miners, several of whom went > there from Beara (and many of whom never again were to see home due to > deaths from terrible mining accidents, T.B., etc.), there were some > absolutely humorous stories, highlight of whom to me was that about the two > men who were sent by Jere "the Wise" Murphy, the Chief of the Police there > during the Depression Years of the 1930's, to go down to Aluminum Street to > write a report on a horse that was killed by a car there. They were doing > fine with writing out the Report until they came to the word Aluminum [by > the way, that's how it was spelled/spelt there]. They weren't able to spell > the word Aliminum, so, in order to explain properly about the accident to > the Police, they dragged the dead horse all the way up Aluminum Street to > Park Street !!! > ---- Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Dear Donal, It is hard to know what to say. I am now retired from the Nursing Profession and have an idea of what you are going through. You are most certainly getting First-Class treatment, and I believe that you have the stamina to turn this prognosis around, Donal. Have faith in the Lord, pray and be yourself. Do what you have to do, be with the ones you love, and know that a lot of people are praying for and with you. Go forward Donal. My prayers and thoughts are with you and yours, Judith E. Casey (Manchester, England) .... Casey/ Sullivan / Hanley / O'Dwyer >> Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my >> current >> medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will >> be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most >> welcome of course. >> >> *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been >> informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five >> years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is >> plus >> 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! >> >> I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery >> to >> remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became >> evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish >> theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, >> would >> just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for >> palliative >> care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried >> out in Ireland. >> >> My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US >> last >> year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours >> in >> theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a >> good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab >> results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of >> all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent >> killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful >> medical intervention. >> >> There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out >> called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to >> 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two >> Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. >> Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European >> countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran >> interned >> with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating >> colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the >> UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. >> My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the >> treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival >> rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear >> friend Riobard. >> >> I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our >> family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating >> whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked >> the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central >> to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked >> that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have >> spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle >> for >> Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing >> Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo >> Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the >> grace >> of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal >> illness. >> >> Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two >> biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And >> People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in >> Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' >> up >> to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From >> Apprentice >> Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging >> Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from >> 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published >> together. >> >> As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for >> most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either >> involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A >> Dr. >> of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record >> these >> insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over >> the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to >> history >> but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my >> past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. >> >> The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called >> out >> only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet >> again ! >> >> My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support >> over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are >> most >> welcome. >> >> Slan is beannacht, Donal O' >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
My prayers are with you and your family. I “googled” you and found you at the Whitehouse Bar in Limerick. What a treat watching and listening to you read your poetry. Thank you for all that you have given to the Beara list. God bless. Karen Sullivan USA
Donal.. Horrendous odds have been overcome through the advances inour medical system combined with the strength of the mind, body and spirit. My thoughts and prayers are with you as you continueto fight the good fight. Carolyn Donal.. Horrendous odds have been overcome through the advances inour medical system combined with the strength of the mind, body and spirit. My thoughts and prayers are with you as you continueto fight the good fight. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> To: beara <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2012 8:48 am Subject: [BEARA] Donal O' Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my current medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most welcome of course. *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is plus 95% chance that I will die within that time frame !
I'm very sorry to hear this, Donal. It parallels so much the experience of two of my friends, one still living and fighting and one now dead. Hang in there. Every day is a gift. Although I've never met you, I feel I know you. You'll be in my prayers. Maggie Duffy ----- Original Message ----- From: "donal O'Siodhachain" <dospoet@gmail.com> To: "beara" <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:46 AM Subject: [BEARA] Donal O' > Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my > current > medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will > be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most > welcome of course. > > *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been > informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five > years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is > plus > 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! > > I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery > to > remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became > evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish > theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, > would > just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for > palliative > care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried > out in Ireland. > > My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US > last > year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours > in > theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a > good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab > results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of > all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent > killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful > medical intervention. > > There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out > called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to > 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two > Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. > Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European > countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran > interned > with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating > colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the > UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. > My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the > treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival > rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear > friend Riobard. > > I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our > family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating > whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked > the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central > to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked > that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have > spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle > for > Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing > Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo > Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the > grace > of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal > illness. > > Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two > biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And > People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in > Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' > up > to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From > Apprentice > Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging > Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from > 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published > together. > > As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for > most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either > involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A > Dr. > of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record > these > insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over > the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to > history > but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my > past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. > > The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called > out > only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet > again ! > > My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support > over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are > most > welcome. > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Donal, You were up there with the people I admire before, but now you're head and shoulders in front of them. May God leave you with us for a long time yet!! Best regards, Ann -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of donal O'Siodhachain Sent: 17 July 2012 13:47 To: beara Subject: [BEARA] Donal O' Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my current medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most welcome of course. *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is plus 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery to remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, would just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for palliative care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried out in Ireland. My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US last year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours in theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful medical intervention. There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran interned with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear friend Riobard. I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle for Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the grace of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal illness. Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' up to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From Apprentice Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published together. As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A Dr. of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record these insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to history but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called out only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet again ! My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are most welcome. Slan is beannacht, Donal O' ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Donal, you are one brave man. ---- Riobard. On 17 July 2012 13:46, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my current > medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will > be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most > welcome of course. > > *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been > informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five > years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is plus > 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! > > I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery to > remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became > evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish > theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, would > just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for palliative > care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried > out in Ireland. > > My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US last > year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours in > theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a > good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab > results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of > all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent > killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful > medical intervention. > > There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out > called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to > 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two > Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. > Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European > countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran interned > with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating > colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the > UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. > My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the > treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival > rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear > friend Riobard. > > I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our > family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating > whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked > the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central > to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked > that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have > spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle for > Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing > Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo > Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the grace > of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal > illness. > > Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two > biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And > People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in > Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' up > to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From Apprentice > Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging > Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from > 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published > together. > > As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for > most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either > involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A Dr. > of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record these > insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over > the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to history > but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my > past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. > > The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called out > only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet > again ! > > My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support > over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are most > welcome. > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*
Continued prayers for you and your family. God bless > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:46:32 +0100 > From: dospoet@gmail.com > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Donal O' > > Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my current > medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will > be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most > welcome of course. > > *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been > informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five > years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is plus > 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! > > I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery to > remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became > evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish > theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, would > just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for palliative > care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried > out in Ireland. > > My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US last > year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours in > theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a > good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab > results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of > all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent > killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful > medical intervention. > > There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out > called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to > 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two > Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. > Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European > countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran interned > with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating > colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the > UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. > My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the > treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival > rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear > friend Riobard. > > I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our > family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating > whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked > the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central > to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked > that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have > spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle for > Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing > Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo > Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the grace > of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal > illness. > > Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two > biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And > People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in > Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' up > to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From Apprentice > Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging > Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from > 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published > together. > > As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for > most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either > involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A Dr. > of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record these > insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over > the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to history > but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my > past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. > > The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called out > only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet > again ! > > My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support > over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are most > welcome. > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my current medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most welcome of course. *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is plus 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery to remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, would just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for palliative care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried out in Ireland. My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US last year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours in theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful medical intervention. There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran interned with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear friend Riobard. I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle for Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the grace of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal illness. Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' up to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From Apprentice Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published together. As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A Dr. of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record these insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to history but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called out only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet again ! My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are most welcome. Slan is beannacht, Donal O'
What a valiant life and perspective on future odds. Best wishes for whatever you choose.Dianna Porter > Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:46:32 +0100 > From: dospoet@gmail.com > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Donal O' > > Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my current > medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will > be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most > welcome of course. > > *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have been > informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five > years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is plus > 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! > > I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery to > remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became > evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish > theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, would > just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for palliative > care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried > out in Ireland. > > My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US last > year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours in > theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a > good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab > results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of > all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the silent > killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful > medical intervention. > > There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out > called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to > 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two > Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. > Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European > countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran interned > with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating > colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the > UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment area. > My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo the > treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival > rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear > friend Riobard. > > I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our > family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating > whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' talked > the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is central > to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked > that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I have > spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle for > Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing > Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo > Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the grace > of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal > illness. > > Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two > biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills And > People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community in > Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' up > to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From Apprentice > Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging > Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. from > 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published > together. > > As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for > most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either > involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A Dr. > of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record these > insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over > the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to history > but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my > past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. > > The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called out > only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet > again ! > > My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your support > over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are most > welcome. > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hang in there, donal. May the good graces of God see you through. I have very much enjoyed our exchanges. Great reading! Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riobard O' Dwyer" <bearariobard@gmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Donal O' > Donal, you are one brave man. > ---- Riobard. > > On 17 July 2012 13:46, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Friends of Beara : rather than post to you individually, this is my >> current >> medical situation, please excuse the long content, from next post it will >> be back to 'business as usual' Your private ems and contact still most >> welcome of course. >> >> *My cancer prognosis is not good, my condition is terminal ! * I have >> been >> informed that there is less than a 5% chance that I will be alive in five >> years........... which is a 'sugar coated' way of saying that there is >> plus >> 95% chance that I will die within that time frame ! >> >> I went into hospital for a planned, relatively routine, keyhole surgery >> to >> remove a bowel cancer growth, once the extent of the cancer spread became >> evident the 'keyhole' gave way to massive open surgery, the average Irish >> theater surgeon, faced with the advanced extent of the cancer spread, >> would >> just ' have made me comfortable ' and I would have been send for >> palliative >> care. Few, very few of these these extensive surgeries have been carried >> out in Ireland. >> >> My surgeon had trained in Cleveland and returned full time from the US >> last >> year, he is now one of Ireland's top bowel specialists. I was five hours >> in >> theater, he removed all visible traces and arrested the spread, I made a >> good recovery and the prognosis was positive. However post-operative lab >> results came back last week my cancer of the 'signet ring' type of 1% of >> all bowel cancers, it is particularly aggressive and known as ' the >> silent >> killer ' as when symptoms manifest it is usually too late for meaningful >> medical intervention. >> >> There is another follow up procedure treatment that can be carried out >> called 'shake and bake', that can increase the 5 year survival chances to >> 50%. It is rare even in the US where it was pioneered and only two >> Consultant surgeons under take the process in Europe, one is in Belgium. >> Only around 100 of these procedures have been carried for all European >> countries in the last ten years. The other expert Dr.Brendan Moran >> interned >> with my surgeon in Limerick Regional and they have remained collaborating >> colleagues and close personal friends since. Dr Moran is now based in the >> UK and he is a recognized world class expert in the cancer treatment >> area. >> My files have been referred to him : if I am suitable and can undergo >> the >> treatment, then I may come within this 50% / 5 year milestone survival >> rate. If I do then I could be around for at least as long as our dear >> friend Riobard. >> >> I am calm, composed and at ease. So is Patricia and all we ask of our >> family, relatives and friends is that they join with us in celebrating >> whatever of my earth life is left as we certainly will be. I have ' >> talked >> the talk' and lectured on the Celtic Sacral Way all my life, it is >> central >> to my poetry and it has shaped my values and faith. I have also ' walked >> that walk' through out my life and will continue to joyfully do so. I >> have >> spend a long and fulfilled life as an Irish Republican in the struggle >> for >> Social Justice and National freedom. I am happy and ready as a practicing >> Christian to deal with whatever awaits in this life and the next. Deo >> Gracias for the earth life I have been privileged to live and for the >> grace >> of this serenity that I have been gifted with during this terminal >> illness. >> >> Meanwhile many things have taken on a new urgency. I have started two >> biographies of the early part of my life, the first *' Of Gentle Hills >> And >> People '* is a 'coming of age' book dealing with my childhood community >> in >> Sliabh Luachra where the community were still in ' The Age Of The Horse' >> up >> to the time I left home at seventeen in 1966. The second *' From >> Apprentice >> Days to Republican Ways' *will cover youth to manhood, the emerging >> Industrial Ireland and the Low Intensity War in Northern Ireland etc. >> from >> 1966 to 1976. As both will cross reference, both will be published >> together. >> >> As a member of the Ard Comhairle ( National Executive ) of Sinn Fein for >> most of the seventies and a founder member of 'The Provos' I had either >> involvement in or a ringside seat for many significant Irish events. A >> Dr. >> of History and a friend agreed an outline with me yesterday to record >> these >> insights and my perspective on these events for the academic record, over >> the coming weeks and months. Seems I have I not only helped make to >> history >> but I am now regarded as history ! I am also working on plans to get my >> past books back in print and do a definitive poetry collection etc. >> >> The ferryman is stating to get annoyed with me, he keeps getting called >> out >> only to get a wave from me across the stream as I begin to walk away yet >> again ! >> >> My sincere thanks to one and all from Patricia and myself for your >> support >> over these past months and your continuing prayers and good wishes are >> most >> welcome. >> >> Slan is beannacht, Donal O' >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
FYI - >From Clare Tuohy on the Tipperary list... <<<If you haven't come across this it may be of interest. _http://flipflashpages.uniflip.com/3/71043/154085/pub/_ (http://flipflashpages.uniflip.com/3/71043/154085/pub/) I think it is a good publication. Clare>>> FYI - This month features Cos. Killarney and Kerry. Next issue comes out on August 6th. Kathleen~CT.
Hi Mary : I would be very interested in any info you may have on 'The Earl of Duhallow' and I would be grateful if you would post it directly to my personal em. I will comment on it later, but for now I do not want to prejudice or color anything that you may say. I am primarily interest in this from a 'Beal Olas'....... Orally transmitted knowledge, folklorist, viewpoint as I want to see how this story travelled in the pre-internet age, what salient features it preserved and what the new perceptions, if any, there were. Thanking you for your time and attention, slan is beannacht, Donal O' On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Mary Sullivan <mpdsull@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > I remember the old folks on moms side talking about the Earl of > Duhallow. > The only thing I recall is that he was supposedly the cause of the > saying > "drunk as a lord." I believe he was from Donal's neck of the woods. > > > > Pat Sullivan > ----------Original Message---------- > From: Mary Sullivan > Date: Jul 12, 2012 1:44:36 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lord Landsdowne question > To: mmduffy@mindspring.com > Cc: beara@rootsweb.com > > Margaret and All, > There is a fascinating article easily Googled entitled "From Famine to > Five > Points: Lord Landsdownes Irish Tenants Encounter North America's Most > Notorious Slum." The author is Tyler Anbinder. The magazine is The > American > Historical Review. April 2002 issue. > Pat Sullivan > On 07/11/12, Margaret Duffy<[1]mmduffy@mindspring.com> wrote: > Thanks to Donal and to the other folks who have contributed > information. It > certainly appears that some Beara ancestors did contribute to the income > that provided the Marquis of Landsdowne (family name Petty-Fitzmaurice) > with > the wherewithal to pay for a townhouse designed by Robert Adam. This > isn't > the Lord Landsdowne who was the War Secretary in Lord Salisbury's > cabinet, > but it was his father or grandfather. The War Secretary Lord Landsdowne > is, > however, the founder of Dereen Gardens at Lauragh. > You can see the Landsdowne House dining room here > [1][2] > http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/galleries/european-sculpture-and- > dec > orative-arts/515 I first discovered it one afternoon when I was 4 or 5 > and > my father and I met my mother (who had a doctor's appointment nearby) > at the > Metropolitan. Wandering the galleries (something I still do quite > often) we > came across it. It really made an impression on me. Something about its > cool > and somewhat remote elegance appealed to me and still does. You can read > more about it here [2][3] > http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/lans/hd_lans.htm > The rest of us seem to have been contributors to Lord Bantry's income > and, > therefore, provided the funds for Bantry House (family name White), > which is > an interesting house to visit and also has a magnificent dining room, > but a > very different one > [3][4] > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dining_Room_Bantry_House.JPG > Maggie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "donal O'Siodhachain" <[4][5]dospoet@gmail.com> > To: <[5][6]beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:13 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lord Landsdowne question > > Hi Margret, > > > > here are some additional, if rather skimpy detail on the second part > of > > your query regarding The Earl Of Bantry Estate. The first reference is > > worth perusal by our general readership also, scroll down to the > extensive > > list of 'Big Houses' and bear in mind that these houses were raised > when > > the mass of the Catholic/ Nationalist Irish people were reduced to > abject > > poverty with every possible last shilling bled out of those in > tenancies > > by rack rents. > > > > > [6][7] > http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.j > sp? > id=2804 > > > > > > The Earl of Bantry's estate was among the principal lessors in the > parishes > > of Fanlobbus, barony of East Carbery, Kilcaskan, Kilcatherine, > > Killaconenagh and Kilnamanagh, barony of Bear and Durrus and > Kilmocomoge, > > barony of Bantry at the same time. In November 1853, over 33,000 > acres of > > the Bantry estate in the baronies of East Carbery, Bantry and Bere, > were > > offered for sale in the Encumbered Estates Court. > > > > My Beara files are in another computer, hopefully this can act as a > > starting point for you. I do have a full list of the Earl of Bantry's > > holdings somewhere but sadly for you it's a case of 'not tonight > > Josephine' ! > > > > Slan is beannacht Donal O' > > > > On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 8:42 PM, LT REED <[7][8] > mreed99439@verizon.net> > wrote: > > > >> Margaret I remember years ago asking Riobard O who was the landlord > in > >> Castletownbere. And I think he told me Lord Bantry. > >> > >> Margaret Reed > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Margaret Duffy" <[8][9]mmduffy@mindspring.com> > >> To: <[9][10]beara@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:24 PM > >> Subject: [BEARA] Lord Landsdowne question > >> > >> > >> > I'm currently reading The Proud Tower Barbara Tuchman's history of > Europe > >> > in the 1890s and have come upon her comments about Lord > Landsdowne, who > >> > was Secretary for War in the cabinet of Lord Salsbury at the time. > The > >> > reference caused me to wonder where the dividing line between the > estates > >> > of Lord Landsdowne (based in Kenmare) and Lord Bantry (based in > Bantry) > >> > was. Does anyone know who was the "landlord" of the areas around > >> > Castletownbere and Eyeries, for instance? > >> > > >> > I've always been a bit curious about this question (sort of in the > back > >> of > >> > my brain) because the nearby Metropolitan Museum has a beautiful > English > >> > period room from Landsdowne House. It's been my favorite among the > >> > English period rooms since I was a small child. And I've often > wondered > >> > if my own ancestors "rents" helped to pay for it. > >> > > >> > Thanks. > >> > > >> > Maggie Duffy, NY and Inchenteskin > >> > > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [10][11]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the > >> quotes > >> > in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [11][12]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the > quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [12][13]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [13][14]BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > References > 1. > [15] > http://www.metmuseum.org/collections/galleries/european-sculpture-and-de > corative-arts/515 > 2. [16]http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/lans/hd_lans.htm > 3. [17] > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dining_Room_Bantry_House.JPG > 4. [18]mailto:dospoet@gmail.com > 5. [19]mailto:beara@rootsweb.com > 6. > [20] > http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie:8080/LandedEstates/jsp/estate-show.jsp > ?id=2804 > 7. [21]mailto:mreed99439@verizon.net > 8. [22]mailto:mmduffy@mindspring.com > 9. [23]mailto:beara@rootsweb.com > 10. [24]mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > 11. [25]mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > 12. [26]mailto:BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > 13. 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