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    1. Re: [BEARA] my family's loss
    2. Jane Sullivan
    3. Bill, So sory to hear this.As a parent, I know it is harder to see your child suffer  tha to do so yourself. will kep all of you, especially your daughter, in my thoughts. ane Sullivan ________________________________ From: Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] my family's loss Dear friends of Beara, Yes, it's true.  I suppose one doesn't tell a poet a story and not  expect the story to be retold.  So events unfolded in the manner Donal  related, and my darling firstborn is now a young widow. It's a story her ancestors from Beara knew all too well.  Fortunately  it's far less common today, but young people in the prime of life are  still sometimes cut down, leaving their loved ones to get on as best  they may. I'll thank you in advance for whatever condolences you wish to offer. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/26/2012 06:23:08
    1. [BEARA] (no subject)
    2. donal O'Siodhachain
    3. Dear friends of Beara : Bill Gwane sudden family tragedy ! I just had an em from Bill G., his family have been struck with a terrible tragedy in recent weeks, so while I may be breaking a confidence in going public, I also know that all of you like me will want to wish Bill and his daughter every sympathy and support in this harrowing time. Bill's son-in-law and husband of his daughter Grace went to the doctor and then hospital just over two weeks ago with some pain in the abdomen area and this was dealt with in a routine way to begin with. When they got to the stage of exploratory surgery after some days a perforated and leaking bowel was discovered and this in turn had caused serious problems. Post Op he was in Critical Care. Following a severe fever of a few days the patients heart stopped, he was revived but when the second cardiac event happened they could not get the heart restarted. Bill's darling Grace is now a widow at thirty-four and herself and all are in shock, grief and trauma at this turn of events. So for the believing Christians among you all, on what is a sunny, smiling Sunday morning here in Ireland, your fervent prayers please for Grace, Bill and all grief stricken by this tragic event. As I said in opening I know that the rest of our Beara community will also want to extend their support and sympathy whether inside or outside of the religious sphere. As already privately expressed, my own em to him he has my prayers and sympathy for him self and his daughter at this trying time for both themselves and all the rest of their grieving, extended family. Siochan De ar a h-Anam uasal ! Slan is beannacht, Donal O'

    08/26/2012 03:35:57
    1. Re: [BEARA] my family's loss
    2. Karen J Farmer
    3. Bill and Family, I am so saddened to hear of your loss. My thoughts and prayers are with you all. Karen in Colorado -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gawne Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 4:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] my family's loss Dear friends of Beara, Yes, it's true. I suppose one doesn't tell a poet a story and not expect the story to be retold. So events unfolded in the manner Donal related, and my darling firstborn is now a young widow. It's a story her ancestors from Beara knew all too well. Fortunately it's far less common today, but young people in the prime of life are still sometimes cut down, leaving their loved ones to get on as best they may. I'll thank you in advance for whatever condolences you wish to offer. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/26/2012 03:33:11
    1. Re: [BEARA] my family's loss
    2. Sandra Cummings
    3. So sorry for your family's loss...you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers Sandra M Cummings (Harrington FLOR) -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gawne Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2012 6:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] my family's loss Dear friends of Beara, Yes, it's true. I suppose one doesn't tell a poet a story and not expect the story to be retold. So events unfolded in the manner Donal related, and my darling firstborn is now a young widow. It's a story her ancestors from Beara knew all too well. Fortunately it's far less common today, but young people in the prime of life are still sometimes cut down, leaving their loved ones to get on as best they may. I'll thank you in advance for whatever condolences you wish to offer. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/26/2012 02:13:34
    1. Re: [BEARA] my family's loss
    2. Bill Gawne
    3. Dear friends of Beara, Yes, it's true. I suppose one doesn't tell a poet a story and not expect the story to be retold. So events unfolded in the manner Donal related, and my darling firstborn is now a young widow. It's a story her ancestors from Beara knew all too well. Fortunately it's far less common today, but young people in the prime of life are still sometimes cut down, leaving their loved ones to get on as best they may. I'll thank you in advance for whatever condolences you wish to offer. -- Bill

    08/26/2012 12:47:12
    1. [BEARA] Jim Ahearn query.
    2. Riobard O' Dwyer
    3. I had mentioned to Jim to try the Mallow Heritage Centre. ---- Riobard. -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

    08/19/2012 06:50:26
    1. [BEARA] Query Re. Jim Ahearn ?
    2. Riobard O' Dwyer
    3. Would Jim Ahearn who phoned me at about 10.20 this morning, and said his ancestor may be from North Cork, please phone me again ----- or if anybody knows Jim, or heard of him, please ask him to phone me. His phone was not checkable. ----- Riohard.

    08/19/2012 06:46:12
    1. Re: [BEARA] Drowning
    2. Judith Casey
    3. On 17/08/2012 21:38, Riobard O' Dwyer wrote: > My sincere sympathy to the family of Pearse Lyne (R.I.P) who was drowned > when his boat overturned in Pulleen Harbour , Castletownbere, earlier > today. Pearse was formerly Principal Teacher of Castletownbere Boys' > National/Primary School. A prominent footballer in his day, I had the > pleasure of playing with Pearse when Beara won the Cork County Senior > Football Championship in 1967, and the Munster S.F.C. in 1968. Ar dheis De > go mbeidh a anam. > ---- Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > My sincere condolences to the Lyne family are offered to. May Pearse Rest in Peace. Judith Casey

    08/19/2012 06:05:58
    1. Re: [BEARA] Drowning
    2. donal O'Siodhachain
    3. I had not heard : I can but echo your sentiments Riobard. I sail myself, usually single handed in a small yacht and the water can be unforgiving, one mistake is all it takes. Even without human error there is always the unexpected ! However like Johnny, I also know the trill of the rudder to hand, a full sail, the song of the water on the hull and a good run before the wind when life has that special jest ! God Rest them both. On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > My sincere sympathy to the family of Pearse Lyne (R.I.P) who was drowned > when his boat overturned in Pulleen Harbour , Castletownbere, earlier > today. Pearse was formerly Principal Teacher of Castletownbere Boys' > National/Primary School. A prominent footballer in his day, I had the > pleasure of playing with Pearse when Beara won the Cork County Senior > Football Championship in 1967, and the Munster S.F.C. in 1968. Ar dheis De > go mbeidh a anam. > ---- Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/17/2012 04:50:35
    1. [BEARA] Drowning
    2. Riobard O' Dwyer
    3. My sincere sympathy to the family of Pearse Lyne (R.I.P) who was drowned when his boat overturned in Pulleen Harbour , Castletownbere, earlier today. Pearse was formerly Principal Teacher of Castletownbere Boys' National/Primary School. A prominent footballer in his day, I had the pleasure of playing with Pearse when Beara won the Cork County Senior Football Championship in 1967, and the Munster S.F.C. in 1968. Ar dheis De go mbeidh a anam. ---- Riobard.

    08/17/2012 03:38:01
    1. Re: [BEARA] John O'Leary, poet & scholar, RIP
    2. donal O'Siodhachain
    3. Riobard : "He was like a furze bush with glasses on top !!" That's definitely in contention with the " Oh you would remember him if you met him, he is devoid of hair from the eyebrows up and nothing but hair from the nose down" !, Listowel remark ! D.O'S. PS : Must have caused a bit of head scratching and bemusement for Johnny up there to find that his first literary eulogy was given not alone by a former Militant Republican but also a good practicing Catholic to boot ! ( Well practicing anyway ) As one of our own crowd remarked after reading a Beal Na Blath diatribe during the height of the Cosgrave / Cooney era " There is no doubt about it but there is no end to the indignities that the memories of the dead must suffer " On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com>wrote: > My sympathy also to the family of John O'Leary R.I.P. Practically "a native > of Beara" because of his long years here, everybody knew him as an > absolutely brilliant man of learning ---- a genius. If he were alive today, > he would been amused (knowing that he was quite bald, with stacks of hair > standing up on both sides of his head), with a Garnish (Allihies Parish, > Beara) character who said: "He was like a furze bush with glasses on top > !!" > ---- Riobard. > > On 16 August 2012 02:38, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Friends of Beara : your kind indulgence please as I go off topic for a > few > > brief paragraphs to mark the passing of a fellow poet and man of > letters, > > John O'Leary of Boston USA and for over thirty years, of Beara, Ireland. > > > > John was out sailing some days ago with his teenage son in a 16' sailboat > > which overturned, both father and son clung on for four hours, thanks to > > our poor summer there were no other boats in the vicinity, they decided > to > > swim for shore but only his son Christie made it. John's body was > > thankfully recovered by the rescue services the following day. > > > > John was a very distinguished man of letters who specialized in Irish > > Studies. His own extensive education ended at Trinity College, Dublin and > > his talents and abilities were quickly appreciated in the Academic World. > > As a visiting professor back home in the US he had the best of both > worlds, > > his birth and life to teens in the US made him a natural insider part of > > the American Ethos while his ongoing Irish life and involvements allowed > > him the bring rich and rewarding insights of Irish traits, character and > > history based on his own life experiences here to bear on his subject > > matter. His writings and studies have an insightful vibrance that few of > > his peer group in the Irish Studies field could even aspire to, never > mind > > match. > > > > Then again how could they : how many more Irish Studies fellow Academics > > spend part of the year lecturing a university class and the other part of > > the year sheep farming and raising horses in a remote, mountainy region > and > > a full part of the community back in Ireland ? At Listowel Writers Week > > some years back his name was mentioned in a writer's circle and someone > > there wondered aloud if they perhaps had met him and asked what he > looked > > like. The immediate reply " Oh you would remember him if you met him, he > is > > devoid of hair from the eyebrows up and nothing but hair from the nose > > down" ! A little exaggerated perhaps, he had quite a bit of hair about > the > > ears and back of his head as well, but it did rather summarized his full > > bearded, bald crown, distinctive appearance. > > > > Earlier to-night I had the privilege of delivering a short eulogy for > > Johnny at the White House poetry night in Limerick and this was followed > by > > a minutes silence in his honor. I was also tasked by the assembled poets > > following my address to pass on the sympathy of the Limerick White House > > Poets to John's friends and family : this forum is an appropriate place > to > > do so and I now pass on our respects and sympathy to Johnny's family, > > friends, neighbors and his peers in the irish Studies academic world. > > John's passing will leave a lasting void for all that will never be > > filled. > > > > Beara has lost a true son who loved every rock, field, stream and bay of > > her magnificent region as the beautiful graphics of his site for the > > writing school convey. > > http://www.anamcararetreat.com/beara-writing-experience.html I will > sign > > off with Irish historic expression that is appropriate : ' May the sod > rest > > lightly on his breast and the Peace Of God be with his brave soul!' > > > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/16/2012 07:08:01
    1. Re: [BEARA] John O'Leary, poet & scholar, RIP
    2. Riobard O' Dwyer
    3. My sympathy also to the family of John O'Leary R.I.P. Practically "a native of Beara" because of his long years here, everybody knew him as an absolutely brilliant man of learning ---- a genius. If he were alive today, he would been amused (knowing that he was quite bald, with stacks of hair standing up on both sides of his head), with a Garnish (Allihies Parish, Beara) character who said: "He was like a furze bush with glasses on top !!" ---- Riobard. On 16 August 2012 02:38, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > Friends of Beara : your kind indulgence please as I go off topic for a few > brief paragraphs to mark the passing of a fellow poet and man of letters, > John O'Leary of Boston USA and for over thirty years, of Beara, Ireland. > > John was out sailing some days ago with his teenage son in a 16' sailboat > which overturned, both father and son clung on for four hours, thanks to > our poor summer there were no other boats in the vicinity, they decided to > swim for shore but only his son Christie made it. John's body was > thankfully recovered by the rescue services the following day. > > John was a very distinguished man of letters who specialized in Irish > Studies. His own extensive education ended at Trinity College, Dublin and > his talents and abilities were quickly appreciated in the Academic World. > As a visiting professor back home in the US he had the best of both worlds, > his birth and life to teens in the US made him a natural insider part of > the American Ethos while his ongoing Irish life and involvements allowed > him the bring rich and rewarding insights of Irish traits, character and > history based on his own life experiences here to bear on his subject > matter. His writings and studies have an insightful vibrance that few of > his peer group in the Irish Studies field could even aspire to, never mind > match. > > Then again how could they : how many more Irish Studies fellow Academics > spend part of the year lecturing a university class and the other part of > the year sheep farming and raising horses in a remote, mountainy region and > a full part of the community back in Ireland ? At Listowel Writers Week > some years back his name was mentioned in a writer's circle and someone > there wondered aloud if they perhaps had met him and asked what he looked > like. The immediate reply " Oh you would remember him if you met him, he is > devoid of hair from the eyebrows up and nothing but hair from the nose > down" ! A little exaggerated perhaps, he had quite a bit of hair about the > ears and back of his head as well, but it did rather summarized his full > bearded, bald crown, distinctive appearance. > > Earlier to-night I had the privilege of delivering a short eulogy for > Johnny at the White House poetry night in Limerick and this was followed by > a minutes silence in his honor. I was also tasked by the assembled poets > following my address to pass on the sympathy of the Limerick White House > Poets to John's friends and family : this forum is an appropriate place to > do so and I now pass on our respects and sympathy to Johnny's family, > friends, neighbors and his peers in the irish Studies academic world. > John's passing will leave a lasting void for all that will never be > filled. > > Beara has lost a true son who loved every rock, field, stream and bay of > her magnificent region as the beautiful graphics of his site for the > writing school convey. > http://www.anamcararetreat.com/beara-writing-experience.html I will sign > off with Irish historic expression that is appropriate : ' May the sod rest > lightly on his breast and the Peace Of God be with his brave soul!' > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

    08/16/2012 06:13:43
    1. Re: [BEARA] Missing relative
    2. Barbara Neus
    3. Hi Marge, I heard from my Butte, MT cousin. She relates that her mother (b. 1901) would talk about a Katie Downing Harrington in Butte. She suggests that you contact the Butte Archives for more info. Best. Barbara On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Margie <mwipper@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > My research of family- the downings of castletownbere had hit a wall when > I lost my great uncle, Valentine David Downing, born in Castletownbere in > 1861. > > I have followed his journey through the US from the time he traveled back > to the US with the rest of his family in 1882. The ship's records show that > he was a citizen of the US at that point. I do not know when he first > arrived in the US with his brother, my grandfather, Patrick Galway Downing. > > I have found his home in Providence, RI, his marriage to Margaret > Harrington , his travel to Kansas City Missouri and the birth of his first > child in Margaret Downing in 1887, his travel to Butte Montana and the > birth of his second child, Irene Downing in 1891. > > Apparently, while in Butte, his wife Margaret died (cannot find this > record) but he is next found in Providence RI where he married Marie Kate > O'Sullivan and had a son, Richard O'Sullivan Downing in 1895. > > I lose all three of these individuals until I just found that the son, > Richard O Downing returned to NY from Ireland on May 8th 1922. Going to > Uncle Daniel Sullivan in Brooklyn NY. > > Does anyone know if Valentine David Downing actually did eturn to Ireland > after the birth of his son in 1895? > Did he and or his wife, Marie Kate die there? If so, when? Where is he > buried? > > My daughter is planning a trip to Ireland in September and would love to > follow up on this research. > I thank you for any help you might give me. > Margie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/16/2012 12:04:26
    1. [BEARA] John O'Leary, poet & scholar, RIP
    2. donal O'Siodhachain
    3. Friends of Beara : your kind indulgence please as I go off topic for a few brief paragraphs to mark the passing of a fellow poet and man of letters, John O'Leary of Boston USA and for over thirty years, of Beara, Ireland. John was out sailing some days ago with his teenage son in a 16' sailboat which overturned, both father and son clung on for four hours, thanks to our poor summer there were no other boats in the vicinity, they decided to swim for shore but only his son Christie made it. John's body was thankfully recovered by the rescue services the following day. John was a very distinguished man of letters who specialized in Irish Studies. His own extensive education ended at Trinity College, Dublin and his talents and abilities were quickly appreciated in the Academic World. As a visiting professor back home in the US he had the best of both worlds, his birth and life to teens in the US made him a natural insider part of the American Ethos while his ongoing Irish life and involvements allowed him the bring rich and rewarding insights of Irish traits, character and history based on his own life experiences here to bear on his subject matter. His writings and studies have an insightful vibrance that few of his peer group in the Irish Studies field could even aspire to, never mind match. Then again how could they : how many more Irish Studies fellow Academics spend part of the year lecturing a university class and the other part of the year sheep farming and raising horses in a remote, mountainy region and a full part of the community back in Ireland ? At Listowel Writers Week some years back his name was mentioned in a writer's circle and someone there wondered aloud if they perhaps had met him and asked what he looked like. The immediate reply " Oh you would remember him if you met him, he is devoid of hair from the eyebrows up and nothing but hair from the nose down" ! A little exaggerated perhaps, he had quite a bit of hair about the ears and back of his head as well, but it did rather summarized his full bearded, bald crown, distinctive appearance. Earlier to-night I had the privilege of delivering a short eulogy for Johnny at the White House poetry night in Limerick and this was followed by a minutes silence in his honor. I was also tasked by the assembled poets following my address to pass on the sympathy of the Limerick White House Poets to John's friends and family : this forum is an appropriate place to do so and I now pass on our respects and sympathy to Johnny's family, friends, neighbors and his peers in the irish Studies academic world. John's passing will leave a lasting void for all that will never be filled. Beara has lost a true son who loved every rock, field, stream and bay of her magnificent region as the beautiful graphics of his site for the writing school convey. http://www.anamcararetreat.com/beara-writing-experience.html I will sign off with Irish historic expression that is appropriate : ' May the sod rest lightly on his breast and the Peace Of God be with his brave soul!' Slan is beannacht, Donal O'

    08/15/2012 08:38:27
    1. [BEARA] appreciation
    2. Terrance O'Dwyer
    3. In Japan & Korea, the newest employee is expected to stay at worl until the elders leave. And so, as the newbie, I may now to this little chorus of thank you’s. One month ago, I noted thay my first post was answered by ‘we O’Dwyers are all cousins’ as a way of saying, ‘failte.’ Them folk down Louisiana way have a phrase, LAISSEZ BON TEMPS ROULEZ—let the good times roll. I’d like to paraphrase LAISSEZ BON HISTOIRES ROULEZ. No translation into Irish, save Laissez bon craic roulez Regards/ Le gach deá ghuí/ Saludos Terrance O'Dwyer

    08/15/2012 04:04:09
    1. [BEARA] Missing Relatives
    2. Margie
    3. Thanks to Riobard and Reg for your prompt replies. Actually I have 2 of Riobard O'Dwyer's > books, "Who Were My Ancestors?" and "Annals of Beara" vol 1. My cousin met > with Mr O'Dwyer some time ago and he added her family updates to the "Who > Were..." book. > At this point I am trying 3 things. My family has been trying to find > Uncle Val for years. Family lore has it that he went back to Ireland to > take care of some real estate issues. When I found that his son returned > from Ireland in 1922, I wondered if Val did, in fact go back to Ireland? > to Castletown? is buried there somewhere?? I am thinking that this info > might be too recent to be any of the books and was wondering how else to > research. Any hints of this? > At the same time, I am trying to find Uncle Val's son to see if we have > any more relatives on this side of the pond. > Finally, I wonder if any of my realtives are still in Ireland. > According to Riobard O'Dwyer, My great great grandparents had 3 sons. I > have found 2 of them and they and their families have come to the US. I > was wondering about the third son and his descendents. I have not started > this search yet. I am very grateful to you for your offer of help and Reg > Volk for introducing me to the web site: > http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie

    08/15/2012 10:07:57
    1. Re: [BEARA] Missing relative
    2. Margie, You can look for him in the 1901 and 1911 Irish census here: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:33 AM, Margie <mwipper@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > My research of family- the downings of castletownbere had hit a wall when > I lost my great uncle, Valentine David Downing, born in Castletownbere in > 1861. > > I have followed his journey through the US from the time he traveled back > to the US with the rest of his family in 1882. The ship's records show that > he was a citizen of the US at that point. I do not know when he first > arrived in the US with his brother, my grandfather, Patrick Galway Downing. > > I have found his home in Providence, RI, his marriage to Margaret > Harrington , his travel to Kansas City Missouri and the birth of his first > child in Margaret Downing in 1887, his travel to Butte Montana and the > birth of his second child, Irene Downing in 1891. > > Apparently, while in Butte, his wife Margaret died (cannot find this > record) but he is next found in Providence RI where he married Marie Kate > O'Sullivan and had a son, Richard O'Sullivan Downing in 1895. > > I lose all three of these individuals until I just found that the son, > Richard O Downing returned to NY from Ireland on May 8th 1922. Going to > Uncle Daniel Sullivan in Brooklyn NY. > > Does anyone know if Valentine David Downing actually did eturn to Ireland > after the birth of his son in 1895? > Did he and or his wife, Marie Kate die there? If so, when? Where is he > buried? > > My daughter is planning a trip to Ireland in September and would love to > follow up on this research. > I thank you for any help you might give me. > Margie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > --

    08/15/2012 05:02:31
    1. Re: [BEARA] Missing relative
    2. Barbara Neus
    3. M...I forwarded your request search to my Butte, Mt cousin. Perhaps???? Best wishes. Barbara Neus On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Margie <mwipper@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > My research of family- the downings of castletownbere had hit a wall when > I lost my great uncle, Valentine David Downing, born in Castletownbere in > 1861. > > I have followed his journey through the US from the time he traveled back > to the US with the rest of his family in 1882. The ship's records show that > he was a citizen of the US at that point. I do not know when he first > arrived in the US with his brother, my grandfather, Patrick Galway Downing. > > I have found his home in Providence, RI, his marriage to Margaret > Harrington , his travel to Kansas City Missouri and the birth of his first > child in Margaret Downing in 1887, his travel to Butte Montana and the > birth of his second child, Irene Downing in 1891. > > Apparently, while in Butte, his wife Margaret died (cannot find this > record) but he is next found in Providence RI where he married Marie Kate > O'Sullivan and had a son, Richard O'Sullivan Downing in 1895. > > I lose all three of these individuals until I just found that the son, > Richard O Downing returned to NY from Ireland on May 8th 1922. Going to > Uncle Daniel Sullivan in Brooklyn NY. > > Does anyone know if Valentine David Downing actually did eturn to Ireland > after the birth of his son in 1895? > Did he and or his wife, Marie Kate die there? If so, when? Where is he > buried? > > My daughter is planning a trip to Ireland in September and would love to > follow up on this research. > I thank you for any help you might give me. > Margie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/15/2012 12:23:21
    1. Re: [BEARA] Missing relative
    2. Riobard O' Dwyer
    3. Dear Margie, Your questions would have been answered by me, one way or another, one time, but my research records are now in Boston. Still, do not give up hope. Contact NEHGS, 101 Newbury St., Boston, Mass., U.S.A. If they can't find the answers, then I doubt if any one else can. ----Riobard. On 14 August 2012 17:33, Margie <mwipper@twcny.rr.com> wrote: > My research of family- the downings of castletownbere had hit a wall when > I lost my great uncle, Valentine David Downing, born in Castletownbere in > 1861. > > I have followed his journey through the US from the time he traveled back > to the US with the rest of his family in 1882. The ship's records show that > he was a citizen of the US at that point. I do not know when he first > arrived in the US with his brother, my grandfather, Patrick Galway Downing. > > I have found his home in Providence, RI, his marriage to Margaret > Harrington , his travel to Kansas City Missouri and the birth of his first > child in Margaret Downing in 1887, his travel to Butte Montana and the > birth of his second child, Irene Downing in 1891. > > Apparently, while in Butte, his wife Margaret died (cannot find this > record) but he is next found in Providence RI where he married Marie Kate > O'Sullivan and had a son, Richard O'Sullivan Downing in 1895. > > I lose all three of these individuals until I just found that the son, > Richard O Downing returned to NY from Ireland on May 8th 1922. Going to > Uncle Daniel Sullivan in Brooklyn NY. > > Does anyone know if Valentine David Downing actually did eturn to Ireland > after the birth of his son in 1895? > Did he and or his wife, Marie Kate die there? If so, when? Where is he > buried? > > My daughter is planning a trip to Ireland in September and would love to > follow up on this research. > I thank you for any help you might give me. > Margie > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

    08/14/2012 04:16:36
    1. Re: [BEARA] Appreciation !!?!!
    2. Riobard O' Dwyer
    3. Donal, a chara (fear nach mbeidh a leithead aris ann ---- [pardun dom --- easpa sinithe fada nach bhfuil ins an computer ata agam], ta an ceart agat. There was no shortage of good wishes like "May you never be in want" !! ----- If all those types of "good wishes" were added up, I would never have to go for a loan to my Bank Manager. ---- Riobard. On 14 August 2012 20:55, donal O'Siodhachain <dospoet@gmail.com> wrote: > Riobard a chara uasal, > > I am reminded of a well known 19th, cen. blacksmith in Sliabh Luachra, one > rather crisp, blustery day he was working outside the door with leathern > apron and bare arms when a customer well wrapped up against the weather > arrived with a small job that would probably not merit payment, and chided > the smith that he was not well enough protected against the cold. > > The Blacksmith stopped, ' rang the anvil', eyed the job and then the man > and remarked " Well now if someone was wished that 'The Lord Spare Them > the Health' as often as I was every time I should have been paid for a job, > then there would be little fear of them if they worked buck naked in black > frost ! " > > Somethings do not change over generations Riobard : 'The Man Upstairs' is > watching and will give you credit for it all when your time comes. I might > even have a word with him myself when I get there to make sure all is ready > and waiting for you ! > > Slan is beannacht, Donal O' > > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 4:30 PM, <ptrckfmrphy@verizon.net> wrote: > > > RIOBARD & JOAN MURPHY, > > > > MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!!!! > THANKS > > FOR EVERYTHING! PFM,CH,SS (CITY HISTORIAN ON SOCIAL SECURITY) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Riobard O' Dwyer > > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 10:24 AM > > To: beara@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Appreciation !!?!! > > > > On 14 August 2012 15:21, Riobard O' Dwyer <bearariobard@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > My research work on the Genealogy of all the Beara Peninsula, which > took > > > me about 50 years to complete, has been sent to one of the biggest > > > libraries in the States ------ the New England Historical Genealogical > > > Society (or NEHGS). 101 Newbury St., Boston, Mass. USA. Now, I am free > to > > > tell of the many, many of my experiences. Several of the people that I > > > came > > > across were lovely, lovely, genuine people. But, unfortunately ---- and > > > which eventually led to my "calling it a day" ---- were the many sad > > > experiences of which I could write a book. I would find it hard to note > > > the > > > number of times that people rang my doorbell without even telling me > that > > > they were coming. I could be right in the middle of my meals, and > without > > > being able to finish what I was eating, they loaded me with many > > questions > > > about which I would have to spend alot of time trying to research, and, > > > even so, they expected to give an answer reasonably quickly. They > didn't > > > mind whether or not I stopped eating, as long as they themselved were > > > satisfied. Appreciation ---- how are you !! I remember one time being > > > woken > > > up about 4 o'clock in the night by a person wondering if I could trace > > his > > > greatgrandfather. The first thing I thought was that a son of mine who > > had > > > travelled up the country was in an accident. Another time spent 3 days > > > researching a man's ancestors in a country thousands of miles from > home. > > > When I was finished, I gave to to him. He told me that I would hear > from > > > him when he got home. He was"delighted with all I had done" for him. I > > > didn't hear from him since ---- and that was 5 years ago. He had got > what > > > he wanted. Goodbye !! A family from abroad rang the doorbell one day > > > without warning, asking me if I could trace the man's ancestors. They > > were > > > obviously wealthy. I invited them in ---- not because of their > standing, > > > but I always gave friendship to everybody, whether rich or poor. My > house > > > was always a welcoming one, as several people can verify. Anyhow, I > spent > > > about an hour and a half with his questions about his Genealogy, and > then > > > telling them all about life in Beara in the olden days, and, added to > > > that, > > > many, many old stories. To be entertaining to them, I took out my > > > accordeon > > > and played for them several jigs, reels, hornpipes, slides and polkas, > > > together with 3 waltzes that I composed myself. Anyhow, eventually they > > > all > > > went off. The principal man, going out, said "You were very good". I > > > didn't > > > hear from them since. They had got what they wanted. Good luck. > > > > > > > > > I won't bother you with any more. > > > Best wishes from Riobard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

    08/14/2012 03:58:51