Hello Patty, all, I'm sure everyone misses things. Since I don't have any control over the external website I posted the link to, I can't edit it. But there may be contact information for the site owner there if you wish to inform them of the oversights. Given that the site is attempting to provide a comprehensive listing of the Lowneys from Beara, I feel sure they'd appreciate having this information. Bill Gawne Patty Gregory <pattygregory@yahoo.com> writes: >  Hi Bill - This Lowney information is very interesting/  However I > didn't see any reference to the John Lowney that immigrated to Upper > Peninsula in Michigan with his wife Margaret and Chiuldren John and > Mary ca 1878.  He later remarried and had 5 more children.  I have  > information on the descendants. I  am his great granddaughter > Patricia Carroll Lowney Gregory. > His sons > John and Dan came to Folsom, California ca 1912-1918.  The following > is from Riobard research. > > John Lowney & Margaret O'Sullivan (Suonish)(Allihies) > John, a Miner and a native of the townland of > Allihies, was son of Michael Lowney, a Miner. > Margaret, who was living in Coom prior to her > marriage, was daughter of Daniel O'Sullivan (Suonish), > a Miner.   > Children: John (Apr. 1868), Mary (Mar1870, Mary as > mother). WHO WERE MY ANCESTORS? Genealogy (Family > Trees) Of The Allihies (Copper Mines) Parish, County > Cork, Ireland.  Riobard O'Dwyer N.T. > > Family lore  revealed > >   > that John 'Died in the Mine' (Copper Country, Houghton Co., MI) apparently in > an accident sometime between 1892 and 1900.  The Census of 1900 shows his 2nd > wife, Katheryn as 'Head of the House' w/seven children at home.  MTU did not > find an accident report, and I wondered if you might have some reference  in > your files of this type of accident occurring between 1892-1900.  The Lowney > family lived first in Calumet and then in Houghton, MI.    > > Thank you! Patty > > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:26 PM > Subject: [BEARA] For the Lowney researchers > > Dear friends of Beara, especially those researching Lowney ancestors, > > This website looks pretty good.  It's worth a gander if you have a few  > minutes. > > http://creativegraces.net/genindex/lowney.html >       The LOWNEY Family of C18th-C21st Castletownbere, SW County > Cork, Ireland > - Present day County Cork, Wexford & USA >       - Updated June 2012 - > > -- Bill -- Bill

Tami, You might try the Griffith's Valuation maps: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml Marge On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Tami Gilbert <tami41262@msn.com> wrote: > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare

Well for what it is worth our family lived in peat houses - when my sister and I were in Allihies 10 years ago we combed the fields near and far from the mine! Good luck! Patty Lowney Gregory ________________________________ From: Ann Chilton <anniechilts@gmail.com> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil Hi Tami, I've had a bit of a look through the families listed in the hopes that I would find (by looking at their profession) a Publican or someone similar, then you would have a starting point to walk down the road (Google Maps are fantastic in this area), but the only Profession I found by cherry picking at the names were all officers in the coastguard, so I guess you are near the sea at this point ??  I have been to Allihies, but don't know it well enough to pin point where this would be.  If Riobard is 'listening' he would know straight away, but you would have to respect his wish to stay 'retired'.  Good luck with the search. Regards - Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <tami41262@msn.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:27 AM Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census?  Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

 Hi Bill - This Lowney information is very interesting/  However I didn't see any reference to the John Lowney that immigrated to Upper Peninsula in Michigan with his wife Margaret and Chiuldren John and Mary ca 1878.  He later remarried and had 5 more children.  I have  information on the descendants. I  am his great granddaughter Patricia Carroll Lowney Gregory. His sons John and Dan came to Folsom, California ca 1912-1918.  The following is from Riobard research. John Lowney & Margaret O'Sullivan (Suonish)(Allihies) John, a Miner and a native of the townland of Allihies, was son of Michael Lowney, a Miner. Margaret, who was living in Coom prior to her marriage, was daughter of Daniel O'Sullivan (Suonish), a Miner.   Children: John (Apr. 1868), Mary (Mar1870, Mary as mother). WHO WERE MY ANCESTORS? Genealogy (Family Trees) Of The Allihies (Copper Mines) Parish, County Cork, Ireland.  Riobard O'Dwyer N.T. Family lore  revealed   that John 'Died in the Mine' (Copper Country, Houghton Co., MI) apparently in an accident sometime between 1892 and 1900.  The Census of 1900 shows his 2nd wife, Katheryn as 'Head of the House' w/seven children at home.  MTU did not find an accident report, and I wondered if you might have some reference  in your files of this type of accident occurring between 1892-1900.  The Lowney family lived first in Calumet and then in Houghton, MI.    Thank you! Patty ________________________________ From: Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 12:26 PM Subject: [BEARA] For the Lowney researchers Dear friends of Beara, especially those researching Lowney ancestors, This website looks pretty good.  It's worth a gander if you have a few  minutes. http://creativegraces.net/genindex/lowney.html       The LOWNEY Family of C18th-C21st Castletownbere, SW County Cork, Ireland - Present day County Cork, Wexford & USA       - Updated June 2012 - -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would suggest you contact Riobard O'Dwyer who lives and is and expert in this area. That failing, pehaps a real estate person could help: http://www.myhome.ie/residential/estate-agents/j-j-o-sullivan-beara-estate-agent-11129 The house may still be standing! Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <tami41262@msn.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Beara friends A late night sneaking in some researching. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? Tami Gilbert

*Hello to everybody ---- and a very happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year* *--- I'm still alive !! ---- From, Riobard & Joan. * On 1 January 2013 18:10, Tami Gilbert <tami41262@msn.com> wrote: > Thank you Terrance I so enjoy reading everyone's posts. > > Tami Gilbert > > > On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:21 PM, "Terrance O'Dwyer" <tsodwyer@verizon.net> > wrote: > > > To My friends of Beara > > > > My wishes to all for a grand new year; > > for blessings and riches and fame— > > But I ache for you who have lost someone > > For things are not the same. > > > > I wish you courage in the coming days > > And peaceful comfort for when you sleep. > > But most for you I do wish > > The promise of Easter’s Feast. > > > > Tis nearly midnight in my town; > > The celebration gives no cheer. > > For my greatest gift at this age > > Is to have my loved ones near. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:00 AM > > To: beara@rootsweb.com > > Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 (alison reynolds) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:12:39 +0000 > > From: alison reynolds <alisonreynolds1@hotmail.co.uk> > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > > To: "beara@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <DUB002-W123ABDCA1083F1EFC6F8958A13D0@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Thank you very much for this info and all the best for 2013 > > Alison Reynolds > > > >> From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > >> To: beara@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:00:20 -0700 > >> > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: The Shortest Day (Susan Twomey) > >> 2. Re: Irish Christmas Traditions (Bette new email) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:51:06 -0800 > >> From: Susan Twomey <mtpv@arcatanet.com> > >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] The Shortest Day > >> To: beara@rootsweb.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> > >> Message-ID: <A636FB18-16E6-4E78-83ED-AD2A2FE3189C@arcatanet.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> > >> Thanks, Bill, for this Solstice verse...I have shared it with family and > >> friends...much appreciated! > >> > >> All the best for the holidays and 2013! Thanks for all you do for us > >> Beara folks. > >> > >> /Susan Twomey > >> > >>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear friends of Beara, > >>>> > >>>> On this (northern hemisphere) winter solstice day I offer you this > >>>> sweet verse by Susan Cooper: > >>>> > >>>> And so the Shortest Day came and the year died > >>>> And everywhere down the centuries of the snow-white world > >>>> Came people singing, dancing, > >>>> To drive the dark away. > >>>> They lighted candles in the winter trees; > >>>> They hung their homes with evergreen; > >>>> They burned beseeching fires all night long > >>>> To keep the year alive. > >>>> And when the new year's sunshine blazed awake > >>>> They shouted, revelling. > >>>> Through all the frosty ages you can hear them > >>>> Echoing behind us - listen! > >>>> All the long echoes, sing the same delight, > >>>> This Shortest Day, > >>>> As promise wakens in the sleeping land: > >>>> They carol, feast, give thanks, > >>>> And dearly love their friends, > >>>> And hope for peace. > >>>> And now so do we, here, now, > >>>> This year and every year. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- Bill > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:40:43 -0700 > >> From: "Bette new email" <bjlars1@bresnan.net> > >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > >> Message-ID: <C3007B904AF9493385B2593A77991134@JohnandBettePC> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > >> reply-type=original > >> > >> Thank you Bill, We old Irish-Americans are hungry for any information on > >> old > >> Irish customs, poems, letters, books, etc. Beautiful poem. MERRY > CHRISTMAS > >> to all. Bette > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Bill Gawne > >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59 PM > >> To: beara@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > >> > >> Dear friends of Beara, > >> > >> The great thing about our Beara mailing list is the archive that > >> stretches back to August 1998. It yields up all sorts of treasure, > >> including this precious tidbit that Sue Booth-Forbes sent us 12 years > >> ago, in December of 2000. As I look these over, I note that there's a > >> candle (electric) in the window of my home office, just in front of > >> the desk where I am right now, as well as similar candles in the other > >> front windows of my house. There's also an evergreen wreath on my > >> front door. Furthermore, we're in the custom of taking the > >> decorations down on Little Christmas, aka 12th Night. > >> > >> We're not in the custom of celebrating Little Christmas as a women's > >> festival in my community. Do any of you do that? (I'm also thinking > >> this might be an echo of the old Roman festival of the Bona Dea held > >> by Roman women in mid-winter.) > >> > >> Anyhow, enough of speculations and reminiscences. Here you have... > >> > >> IRISH CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> Ireland, like most countries, has a number of Christmas traditions that > >> are all of its own. Many of these customs have their root in the time > when > >> the Gaelic culture and religion of the country were being suppressed and > >> it > >> is perhaps because of this that they have survived into modern times. > >> > >> THE CANDLE IN THE WINDOW > >> > >> The placing of a lighted candle in the window of a house on Christmas > eve > >> is > >> still practised today. It has a number of purposes but primarily it was > a > >> symbol of welcome to Mary and Joseph as they traveled looking for > shelter. > >> The candle also indicated a safe place for priests to perform mass since > >> during Penal Times this was not allowed. A further element of the > >> tradition > >> is that the candle should be lit by the youngest member of the household > >> and > >> only be extinguished by a girl bearing the name 'Mary'. > >> > >> THE LADEN TABLE > >> > >> After evening meal on Christmas eve the kitchen table was again set and > on > >> it were placed a loaf of bread filled with caraway seeds and raisins, a > >> pitcher of milk and a large lit candle. The door to the house was left > >> unlatched so that Mary and Joseph, or any wandering traveler, could > avail > >> of the welcome. > >> > >> THE WREN BOY PROCESSION > >> > >> During Penal Times there was once a plot in a village against the local > >> soldiers. They were surrounded and were about to be ambushed when a > group > >> of > >> wrens pecked on their drums and awakened the soldiers. The plot failed > and > >> the wren became known as 'The Devil's bird'. On St. Stephen's Day a > >> procession takes place where a pole with a holly bush is carried from > >> house > >> to house and families dress up in old clothes and with blackened faces. > In > >> olden times an actual wren would be killed and placed on top of the > pole. > >> This custom has to a large degree disappeared but the tradition of > >> visiting > >> from house to house on St. Stephen's Day has survived and is very much > >> part > >> of Christmas. > >> > >> DECORATIONS > >> > >> The placing of a ring of Holly on doors originated in Ireland as Holly > was > >> one of the main plants that flourished at Christmas time and which gave > >> the > >> poor ample means with which to decorate their dwellings. All decorations > >> are > >> traditionally taken down on Little Christmas (January 6th.) and it is > >> considered to be bad luck to take them down beforehand. > >> > >> LITTLE CHRISTMAS > >> > >> On January 6th, the women of Ireland gather to celebrate the successful > >> completion of the holiday season and their contributions to making it > >> happen. In homes, restaurants, theatres, pubs, and clubs around the > >> country, it is 'women only' night. > >> > >> TRADITIONAL GAELIC SALUTATION > >> > >> The Gaelic greeting for 'Merry Christmas' is: 'Nollaig Shona Duit', > which > >> is pronounced as 'null-ig hunna dwit'. > >> > >> > >> -- Bill > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in > >> the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > >> BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > >> BEARA@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> __________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > >> of the > >> email with no additional text. > >> > >> > >> End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > >> ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 > > ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)*

Thanks Riobard...for the new year wish and for still being alive!!!!...And a Happy New Year to you and Joan and your entire family! Happy New Year to all the Beara Lister! Sandra M Cummings (Harrington FLOR) -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O' Dwyer Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 2:19 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 *Hello to everybody ---- and a very happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year* *--- I'm still alive !! ---- From, Riobard & Joan. * On 1 January 2013 18:10, Tami Gilbert <tami41262@msn.com> wrote: > Thank you Terrance I so enjoy reading everyone's posts. > > Tami Gilbert > > > On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:21 PM, "Terrance O'Dwyer" <tsodwyer@verizon.net> > wrote: > > > To My friends of Beara > > > > My wishes to all for a grand new year; > > for blessings and riches and fame- > > But I ache for you who have lost someone > > For things are not the same. > > > > I wish you courage in the coming days > > And peaceful comfort for when you sleep. > > But most for you I do wish > > The promise of Easter's Feast. > > > > Tis nearly midnight in my town; > > The celebration gives no cheer. > > For my greatest gift at this age > > Is to have my loved ones near. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:00 AM > > To: beara@rootsweb.com > > Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 (alison reynolds) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:12:39 +0000 > > From: alison reynolds <alisonreynolds1@hotmail.co.uk> > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > > To: "beara@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> > > Message-ID: <DUB002-W123ABDCA1083F1EFC6F8958A13D0@phx.gbl> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Thank you very much for this info and all the best for 2013 > > Alison Reynolds > > > >> From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > >> To: beara@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:00:20 -0700 > >> > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Re: The Shortest Day (Susan Twomey) > >> 2. Re: Irish Christmas Traditions (Bette new email) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:51:06 -0800 > >> From: Susan Twomey <mtpv@arcatanet.com> > >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] The Shortest Day > >> To: beara@rootsweb.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> > >> Message-ID: <A636FB18-16E6-4E78-83ED-AD2A2FE3189C@arcatanet.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >> > >> > >> Thanks, Bill, for this Solstice verse...I have shared it with family and > >> friends...much appreciated! > >> > >> All the best for the holidays and 2013! Thanks for all you do for us > >> Beara folks. > >> > >> /Susan Twomey > >> > >>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dear friends of Beara, > >>>> > >>>> On this (northern hemisphere) winter solstice day I offer you this > >>>> sweet verse by Susan Cooper: > >>>> > >>>> And so the Shortest Day came and the year died > >>>> And everywhere down the centuries of the snow-white world > >>>> Came people singing, dancing, > >>>> To drive the dark away. > >>>> They lighted candles in the winter trees; > >>>> They hung their homes with evergreen; > >>>> They burned beseeching fires all night long > >>>> To keep the year alive. > >>>> And when the new year's sunshine blazed awake > >>>> They shouted, revelling. > >>>> Through all the frosty ages you can hear them > >>>> Echoing behind us - listen! > >>>> All the long echoes, sing the same delight, > >>>> This Shortest Day, > >>>> As promise wakens in the sleeping land: > >>>> They carol, feast, give thanks, > >>>> And dearly love their friends, > >>>> And hope for peace. > >>>> And now so do we, here, now, > >>>> This year and every year. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- Bill > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:40:43 -0700 > >> From: "Bette new email" <bjlars1@bresnan.net> > >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > >> Message-ID: <C3007B904AF9493385B2593A77991134@JohnandBettePC> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > >> reply-type=original > >> > >> Thank you Bill, We old Irish-Americans are hungry for any information on > >> old > >> Irish customs, poems, letters, books, etc. Beautiful poem. MERRY > CHRISTMAS > >> to all. Bette > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Bill Gawne > >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59 PM > >> To: beara@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > >> > >> Dear friends of Beara, > >> > >> The great thing about our Beara mailing list is the archive that > >> stretches back to August 1998. It yields up all sorts of treasure, > >> including this precious tidbit that Sue Booth-Forbes sent us 12 years > >> ago, in December of 2000. As I look these over, I note that there's a > >> candle (electric) in the window of my home office, just in front of > >> the desk where I am right now, as well as similar candles in the other > >> front windows of my house. There's also an evergreen wreath on my > >> front door. Furthermore, we're in the custom of taking the > >> decorations down on Little Christmas, aka 12th Night. > >> > >> We're not in the custom of celebrating Little Christmas as a women's > >> festival in my community. Do any of you do that? (I'm also thinking > >> this might be an echo of the old Roman festival of the Bona Dea held > >> by Roman women in mid-winter.) > >> > >> Anyhow, enough of speculations and reminiscences. Here you have... > >> > >> IRISH CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS > >> > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> > >> Ireland, like most countries, has a number of Christmas traditions that > >> are all of its own. Many of these customs have their root in the time > when > >> the Gaelic culture and religion of the country were being suppressed and > >> it > >> is perhaps because of this that they have survived into modern times. > >> > >> THE CANDLE IN THE WINDOW > >> > >> The placing of a lighted candle in the window of a house on Christmas > eve > >> is > >> still practised today. It has a number of purposes but primarily it was > a > >> symbol of welcome to Mary and Joseph as they traveled looking for > shelter. > >> The candle also indicated a safe place for priests to perform mass since > >> during Penal Times this was not allowed. A further element of the > >> tradition > >> is that the candle should be lit by the youngest member of the household > >> and > >> only be extinguished by a girl bearing the name 'Mary'. > >> > >> THE LADEN TABLE > >> > >> After evening meal on Christmas eve the kitchen table was again set and > on > >> it were placed a loaf of bread filled with caraway seeds and raisins, a > >> pitcher of milk and a large lit candle. The door to the house was left > >> unlatched so that Mary and Joseph, or any wandering traveler, could > avail > >> of the welcome. > >> > >> THE WREN BOY PROCESSION > >> > >> During Penal Times there was once a plot in a village against the local > >> soldiers. They were surrounded and were about to be ambushed when a > group > >> of > >> wrens pecked on their drums and awakened the soldiers. The plot failed > and > >> the wren became known as 'The Devil's bird'. On St. Stephen's Day a > >> procession takes place where a pole with a holly bush is carried from > >> house > >> to house and families dress up in old clothes and with blackened faces. > In > >> olden times an actual wren would be killed and placed on top of the > pole. > >> This custom has to a large degree disappeared but the tradition of > >> visiting > >> from house to house on St. Stephen's Day has survived and is very much > >> part > >> of Christmas. > >> > >> DECORATIONS > >> > >> The placing of a ring of Holly on doors originated in Ireland as Holly > was > >> one of the main plants that flourished at Christmas time and which gave > >> the > >> poor ample means with which to decorate their dwellings. All decorations > >> are > >> traditionally taken down on Little Christmas (January 6th.) and it is > >> considered to be bad luck to take them down beforehand. > >> > >> LITTLE CHRISTMAS > >> > >> On January 6th, the women of Ireland gather to celebrate the successful > >> completion of the holiday season and their contributions to making it > >> happen. In homes, restaurants, theatres, pubs, and clubs around the > >> country, it is 'women only' night. > >> > >> TRADITIONAL GAELIC SALUTATION > >> > >> The Gaelic greeting for 'Merry Christmas' is: 'Nollaig Shona Duit', > which > >> is pronounced as 'null-ig hunna dwit'. > >> > >> > >> -- Bill > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > >> in > >> the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > >> BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > >> BEARA@rootsweb.com. > >> > >> __________________________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > >> of the > >> email with no additional text. > >> > >> > >> End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > >> ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > > > __________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the > body > > of the > > email with no additional text. > > > > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 > > ************************************* > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -- *Riobard (O'Dwyer)* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Terrance I so enjoy reading everyone's posts. Tami Gilbert On Dec 31, 2012, at 7:21 PM, "Terrance O'Dwyer" <tsodwyer@verizon.net> wrote: > To My friends of Beara > > My wishes to all for a grand new year; > for blessings and riches and fame— > But I ache for you who have lost someone > For things are not the same. > > I wish you courage in the coming days > And peaceful comfort for when you sleep. > But most for you I do wish > The promise of Easter’s Feast. > > Tis nearly midnight in my town; > The celebration gives no cheer. > For my greatest gift at this age > Is to have my loved ones near. > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:00 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 (alison reynolds) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:12:39 +0000 > From: alison reynolds <alisonreynolds1@hotmail.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > To: "beara@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DUB002-W123ABDCA1083F1EFC6F8958A13D0@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Thank you very much for this info and all the best for 2013 > Alison Reynolds > >> From: beara-request@rootsweb.com >> Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:00:20 -0700 >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: The Shortest Day (Susan Twomey) >> 2. Re: Irish Christmas Traditions (Bette new email) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:51:06 -0800 >> From: Susan Twomey <mtpv@arcatanet.com> >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] The Shortest Day >> To: beara@rootsweb.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> >> Message-ID: <A636FB18-16E6-4E78-83ED-AD2A2FE3189C@arcatanet.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> >> Thanks, Bill, for this Solstice verse...I have shared it with family and >> friends...much appreciated! >> >> All the best for the holidays and 2013! Thanks for all you do for us >> Beara folks. >> >> /Susan Twomey >> >>> On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear friends of Beara, >>>> >>>> On this (northern hemisphere) winter solstice day I offer you this >>>> sweet verse by Susan Cooper: >>>> >>>> And so the Shortest Day came and the year died >>>> And everywhere down the centuries of the snow-white world >>>> Came people singing, dancing, >>>> To drive the dark away. >>>> They lighted candles in the winter trees; >>>> They hung their homes with evergreen; >>>> They burned beseeching fires all night long >>>> To keep the year alive. >>>> And when the new year's sunshine blazed awake >>>> They shouted, revelling. >>>> Through all the frosty ages you can hear them >>>> Echoing behind us - listen! >>>> All the long echoes, sing the same delight, >>>> This Shortest Day, >>>> As promise wakens in the sleeping land: >>>> They carol, feast, give thanks, >>>> And dearly love their friends, >>>> And hope for peace. >>>> And now so do we, here, now, >>>> This year and every year. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- Bill >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:40:43 -0700 >> From: "Bette new email" <bjlars1@bresnan.net> >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <C3007B904AF9493385B2593A77991134@JohnandBettePC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Thank you Bill, We old Irish-Americans are hungry for any information on >> old >> Irish customs, poems, letters, books, etc. Beautiful poem. MERRY CHRISTMAS >> to all. Bette >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Bill Gawne >> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59 PM >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions >> >> Dear friends of Beara, >> >> The great thing about our Beara mailing list is the archive that >> stretches back to August 1998. It yields up all sorts of treasure, >> including this precious tidbit that Sue Booth-Forbes sent us 12 years >> ago, in December of 2000. As I look these over, I note that there's a >> candle (electric) in the window of my home office, just in front of >> the desk where I am right now, as well as similar candles in the other >> front windows of my house. There's also an evergreen wreath on my >> front door. Furthermore, we're in the custom of taking the >> decorations down on Little Christmas, aka 12th Night. >> >> We're not in the custom of celebrating Little Christmas as a women's >> festival in my community. Do any of you do that? (I'm also thinking >> this might be an echo of the old Roman festival of the Bona Dea held >> by Roman women in mid-winter.) >> >> Anyhow, enough of speculations and reminiscences. Here you have... >> >> IRISH CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> Ireland, like most countries, has a number of Christmas traditions that >> are all of its own. Many of these customs have their root in the time when >> the Gaelic culture and religion of the country were being suppressed and >> it >> is perhaps because of this that they have survived into modern times. >> >> THE CANDLE IN THE WINDOW >> >> The placing of a lighted candle in the window of a house on Christmas eve >> is >> still practised today. It has a number of purposes but primarily it was a >> symbol of welcome to Mary and Joseph as they traveled looking for shelter. >> The candle also indicated a safe place for priests to perform mass since >> during Penal Times this was not allowed. A further element of the >> tradition >> is that the candle should be lit by the youngest member of the household >> and >> only be extinguished by a girl bearing the name 'Mary'. >> >> THE LADEN TABLE >> >> After evening meal on Christmas eve the kitchen table was again set and on >> it were placed a loaf of bread filled with caraway seeds and raisins, a >> pitcher of milk and a large lit candle. The door to the house was left >> unlatched so that Mary and Joseph, or any wandering traveler, could avail >> of the welcome. >> >> THE WREN BOY PROCESSION >> >> During Penal Times there was once a plot in a village against the local >> soldiers. They were surrounded and were about to be ambushed when a group >> of >> wrens pecked on their drums and awakened the soldiers. The plot failed and >> the wren became known as 'The Devil's bird'. On St. Stephen's Day a >> procession takes place where a pole with a holly bush is carried from >> house >> to house and families dress up in old clothes and with blackened faces. In >> olden times an actual wren would be killed and placed on top of the pole. >> This custom has to a large degree disappeared but the tradition of >> visiting >> from house to house on St. Stephen's Day has survived and is very much >> part >> of Christmas. >> >> DECORATIONS >> >> The placing of a ring of Holly on doors originated in Ireland as Holly was >> one of the main plants that flourished at Christmas time and which gave >> the >> poor ample means with which to decorate their dwellings. All decorations >> are >> traditionally taken down on Little Christmas (January 6th.) and it is >> considered to be bad luck to take them down beforehand. >> >> LITTLE CHRISTMAS >> >> On January 6th, the women of Ireland gather to celebrate the successful >> completion of the holiday season and their contributions to making it >> happen. In homes, restaurants, theatres, pubs, and clubs around the >> country, it is 'women only' night. >> >> TRADITIONAL GAELIC SALUTATION >> >> The Gaelic greeting for 'Merry Christmas' is: 'Nollaig Shona Duit', which >> is pronounced as 'null-ig hunna dwit'. >> >> >> -- Bill >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in >> the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to >> BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to >> BEARA@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body >> of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 >> ************************************* > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 > ************************************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Terrance O'Dwyer <tsodwyer@verizon.net> writes: > To My friends of Beara > > My wishes to all for a grand new year; > for blessings and riches and fame— > But I ache for you who have lost someone > For things are not the same. > > I wish you courage in the coming days > And peaceful comfort for when you sleep. > But most for you I do wish > The promise of Easter’s Feast. > > Tis nearly midnight in my town; > The celebration gives no cheer. > For my greatest gift at this age > Is to have my loved ones near. Thank you Terrance. As you might guess, this one goes right to my heart. -- Bill

You've said it all, Terrance. Thank you for sharing. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Terrance O'Dwyer <tsodwyer@verizon.net> To: beara <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Dec 31, 2012 10:20 pm Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 To My friends of Beara My wishes to all for a grand new year; for blessings and riches and fame— But I ache for you who have lost someone For things are not the same. I wish you courage in the coming days And peaceful comfort for when you sleep. But most for you I do wish The promise of Easter’s Feast. Tis nearly midnight in my town; The celebration gives no cheer. For my greatest gift at this age Is to have my loved ones near.

To My friends of Beara My wishes to all for a grand new year; for blessings and riches and fame— But I ache for you who have lost someone For things are not the same. I wish you courage in the coming days And peaceful comfort for when you sleep. But most for you I do wish The promise of Easter’s Feast. Tis nearly midnight in my town; The celebration gives no cheer. For my greatest gift at this age Is to have my loved ones near. -----Original Message----- From: beara-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 3:00 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 Today's Topics: 1. Re: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 (alison reynolds) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 13:12:39 +0000 From: alison reynolds <alisonreynolds1@hotmail.co.uk> Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 To: "beara@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DUB002-W123ABDCA1083F1EFC6F8958A13D0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thank you very much for this info and all the best for 2013 Alison Reynolds > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:00:20 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The Shortest Day (Susan Twomey) > 2. Re: Irish Christmas Traditions (Bette new email) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:51:06 -0800 > From: Susan Twomey <mtpv@arcatanet.com> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] The Shortest Day > To: beara@rootsweb.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> > Message-ID: <A636FB18-16E6-4E78-83ED-AD2A2FE3189C@arcatanet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Thanks, Bill, for this Solstice verse...I have shared it with family and > friends...much appreciated! > > All the best for the holidays and 2013! Thanks for all you do for us > Beara folks. > > /Susan Twomey > > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > > > >> Dear friends of Beara, > >> > >> On this (northern hemisphere) winter solstice day I offer you this > >> sweet verse by Susan Cooper: > >> > >> And so the Shortest Day came and the year died > >> And everywhere down the centuries of the snow-white world > >> Came people singing, dancing, > >> To drive the dark away. > >> They lighted candles in the winter trees; > >> They hung their homes with evergreen; > >> They burned beseeching fires all night long > >> To keep the year alive. > >> And when the new year's sunshine blazed awake > >> They shouted, revelling. > >> Through all the frosty ages you can hear them > >> Echoing behind us - listen! > >> All the long echoes, sing the same delight, > >> This Shortest Day, > >> As promise wakens in the sleeping land: > >> They carol, feast, give thanks, > >> And dearly love their friends, > >> And hope for peace. > >> And now so do we, here, now, > >> This year and every year. > >> > >> > >> -- Bill > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:40:43 -0700 > From: "Bette new email" <bjlars1@bresnan.net> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C3007B904AF9493385B2593A77991134@JohnandBettePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you Bill, We old Irish-Americans are hungry for any information on > old > Irish customs, poems, letters, books, etc. Beautiful poem. MERRY CHRISTMAS > to all. Bette > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Gawne > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > > Dear friends of Beara, > > The great thing about our Beara mailing list is the archive that > stretches back to August 1998. It yields up all sorts of treasure, > including this precious tidbit that Sue Booth-Forbes sent us 12 years > ago, in December of 2000. As I look these over, I note that there's a > candle (electric) in the window of my home office, just in front of > the desk where I am right now, as well as similar candles in the other > front windows of my house. There's also an evergreen wreath on my > front door. Furthermore, we're in the custom of taking the > decorations down on Little Christmas, aka 12th Night. > > We're not in the custom of celebrating Little Christmas as a women's > festival in my community. Do any of you do that? (I'm also thinking > this might be an echo of the old Roman festival of the Bona Dea held > by Roman women in mid-winter.) > > Anyhow, enough of speculations and reminiscences. Here you have... > > IRISH CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Ireland, like most countries, has a number of Christmas traditions that > are all of its own. Many of these customs have their root in the time when > the Gaelic culture and religion of the country were being suppressed and > it > is perhaps because of this that they have survived into modern times. > > THE CANDLE IN THE WINDOW > > The placing of a lighted candle in the window of a house on Christmas eve > is > still practised today. It has a number of purposes but primarily it was a > symbol of welcome to Mary and Joseph as they traveled looking for shelter. > The candle also indicated a safe place for priests to perform mass since > during Penal Times this was not allowed. A further element of the > tradition > is that the candle should be lit by the youngest member of the household > and > only be extinguished by a girl bearing the name 'Mary'. > > THE LADEN TABLE > > After evening meal on Christmas eve the kitchen table was again set and on > it were placed a loaf of bread filled with caraway seeds and raisins, a > pitcher of milk and a large lit candle. The door to the house was left > unlatched so that Mary and Joseph, or any wandering traveler, could avail > of the welcome. > > THE WREN BOY PROCESSION > > During Penal Times there was once a plot in a village against the local > soldiers. They were surrounded and were about to be ambushed when a group > of > wrens pecked on their drums and awakened the soldiers. The plot failed and > the wren became known as 'The Devil's bird'. On St. Stephen's Day a > procession takes place where a pole with a holly bush is carried from > house > to house and families dress up in old clothes and with blackened faces. In > olden times an actual wren would be killed and placed on top of the pole. > This custom has to a large degree disappeared but the tradition of > visiting > from house to house on St. Stephen's Day has survived and is very much > part > of Christmas. > > DECORATIONS > > The placing of a ring of Holly on doors originated in Ireland as Holly was > one of the main plants that flourished at Christmas time and which gave > the > poor ample means with which to decorate their dwellings. All decorations > are > traditionally taken down on Little Christmas (January 6th.) and it is > considered to be bad luck to take them down beforehand. > > LITTLE CHRISTMAS > > On January 6th, the women of Ireland gather to celebrate the successful > completion of the holiday season and their contributions to making it > happen. In homes, restaurants, theatres, pubs, and clubs around the > country, it is 'women only' night. > > TRADITIONAL GAELIC SALUTATION > > The Gaelic greeting for 'Merry Christmas' is: 'Nollaig Shona Duit', which > is pronounced as 'null-ig hunna dwit'. > > > -- Bill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > ************************************* ------------------------------ To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to BEARA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 253 *************************************

On 29/12/2012 20:26, Bill Gawne wrote: > Dear friends of Beara, especially those researching Lowney ancestors, > > This website looks pretty good. It's worth a gander if you have a few > minutes. > > http://creativegraces.net/genindex/lowney.html > The LOWNEY Family of C18th-C21st Castletownbere, SW County Cork, Ireland > - Present day County Cork, Wexford & USA > - Updated June 2012 - > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Dear Bill, wonderful site. Thank you very much. Judith Casey

Interesting site, Bill. The surname is apparently from the Laune river, unusually topographical for Irish, and the family looks to be a branch of O'Sullivan Beare of Kilorgin, County Kerry. Wondering in constructing a family tree, whether Maurice Launey (circa 1759-1810) and Elizabeth Leahy (circa 1760-1810) can be considered as common ancestors for all Lowney descendants in Cork at that time, or are there any other known families who relocated there? On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 6:21 AM, Judith Casey <judith@judithcasey.plus.com>wrote: > On 29/12/2012 20:26, Bill Gawne wrote: > > Dear friends of Beara, especially those researching Lowney ancestors, > > > > This website looks pretty good. It's worth a gander if you have a few > > minutes. > > > > http://creativegraces.net/genindex/lowney.html > > The LOWNEY Family of C18th-C21st Castletownbere, SW County Cork, > Ireland > > - Present day County Cork, Wexford & USA > > - Updated June 2012 - > > > > -- Bill > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > Dear Bill, > wonderful site. Thank you very much. > Judith Casey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Michael O'Hearn

Thank you very much for this info and all the best for 2013 Alison Reynolds > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2012 01:00:20 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: The Shortest Day (Susan Twomey) > 2. Re: Irish Christmas Traditions (Bette new email) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 17:51:06 -0800 > From: Susan Twomey <mtpv@arcatanet.com> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] The Shortest Day > To: beara@rootsweb.com, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> > Message-ID: <A636FB18-16E6-4E78-83ED-AD2A2FE3189C@arcatanet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > Thanks, Bill, for this Solstice verse...I have shared it with family and friends...much appreciated! > > All the best for the holidays and 2013! Thanks for all you do for us Beara folks. > > /Susan Twomey > > > On Dec 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> wrote: > > > >> Dear friends of Beara, > >> > >> On this (northern hemisphere) winter solstice day I offer you this > >> sweet verse by Susan Cooper: > >> > >> And so the Shortest Day came and the year died > >> And everywhere down the centuries of the snow-white world > >> Came people singing, dancing, > >> To drive the dark away. > >> They lighted candles in the winter trees; > >> They hung their homes with evergreen; > >> They burned beseeching fires all night long > >> To keep the year alive. > >> And when the new year's sunshine blazed awake > >> They shouted, revelling. > >> Through all the frosty ages you can hear them > >> Echoing behind us - listen! > >> All the long echoes, sing the same delight, > >> This Shortest Day, > >> As promise wakens in the sleeping land: > >> They carol, feast, give thanks, > >> And dearly love their friends, > >> And hope for peace. > >> And now so do we, here, now, > >> This year and every year. > >> > >> > >> -- Bill > >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 19:40:43 -0700 > From: "Bette new email" <bjlars1@bresnan.net> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <C3007B904AF9493385B2593A77991134@JohnandBettePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thank you Bill, We old Irish-Americans are hungry for any information on old > Irish customs, poems, letters, books, etc. Beautiful poem. MERRY CHRISTMAS > to all. Bette > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bill Gawne > Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 3:59 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Irish Christmas Traditions > > Dear friends of Beara, > > The great thing about our Beara mailing list is the archive that > stretches back to August 1998. It yields up all sorts of treasure, > including this precious tidbit that Sue Booth-Forbes sent us 12 years > ago, in December of 2000. As I look these over, I note that there's a > candle (electric) in the window of my home office, just in front of > the desk where I am right now, as well as similar candles in the other > front windows of my house. There's also an evergreen wreath on my > front door. Furthermore, we're in the custom of taking the > decorations down on Little Christmas, aka 12th Night. > > We're not in the custom of celebrating Little Christmas as a women's > festival in my community. Do any of you do that? (I'm also thinking > this might be an echo of the old Roman festival of the Bona Dea held > by Roman women in mid-winter.) > > Anyhow, enough of speculations and reminiscences. Here you have... > > IRISH CHRISTMAS TRADITIONS > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Ireland, like most countries, has a number of Christmas traditions that > are all of its own. Many of these customs have their root in the time when > the Gaelic culture and religion of the country were being suppressed and it > is perhaps because of this that they have survived into modern times. > > THE CANDLE IN THE WINDOW > > The placing of a lighted candle in the window of a house on Christmas eve is > still practised today. It has a number of purposes but primarily it was a > symbol of welcome to Mary and Joseph as they traveled looking for shelter. > The candle also indicated a safe place for priests to perform mass since > during Penal Times this was not allowed. A further element of the tradition > is that the candle should be lit by the youngest member of the household and > only be extinguished by a girl bearing the name 'Mary'. > > THE LADEN TABLE > > After evening meal on Christmas eve the kitchen table was again set and on > it were placed a loaf of bread filled with caraway seeds and raisins, a > pitcher of milk and a large lit candle. The door to the house was left > unlatched so that Mary and Joseph, or any wandering traveler, could avail > of the welcome. > > THE WREN BOY PROCESSION > > During Penal Times there was once a plot in a village against the local > soldiers. They were surrounded and were about to be ambushed when a group of > wrens pecked on their drums and awakened the soldiers. The plot failed and > the wren became known as 'The Devil's bird'. On St. Stephen's Day a > procession takes place where a pole with a holly bush is carried from house > to house and families dress up in old clothes and with blackened faces. In > olden times an actual wren would be killed and placed on top of the pole. > This custom has to a large degree disappeared but the tradition of visiting > from house to house on St. Stephen's Day has survived and is very much part > of Christmas. > > DECORATIONS > > The placing of a ring of Holly on doors originated in Ireland as Holly was > one of the main plants that flourished at Christmas time and which gave the > poor ample means with which to decorate their dwellings. All decorations are > traditionally taken down on Little Christmas (January 6th.) and it is > considered to be bad luck to take them down beforehand. > > LITTLE CHRISTMAS > > On January 6th, the women of Ireland gather to celebrate the successful > completion of the holiday season and their contributions to making it > happen. In homes, restaurants, theatres, pubs, and clubs around the > country, it is 'women only' night. > > TRADITIONAL GAELIC SALUTATION > > The Gaelic greeting for 'Merry Christmas' is: 'Nollaig Shona Duit', which > is pronounced as 'null-ig hunna dwit'. > > > -- Bill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 248 > *************************************

Dear friends of Beara, especially those researching Lowney ancestors, This website looks pretty good. It's worth a gander if you have a few minutes. http://creativegraces.net/genindex/lowney.html The LOWNEY Family of C18th-C21st Castletownbere, SW County Cork, Ireland - Present day County Cork, Wexford & USA - Updated June 2012 - -- Bill

Thank you, Bill for forwarding that link - we like the song. And, after "The Wren, the wren" my husband and I, driving from MA to ME listened to all the other Clancey Brothers songs that seemed to be linked! A great way to pas the time in the car. Sue

Bill, I didn't know that a wren was actually hurt in the process. For me, it's not Christmas until I've pulled out my Bells of Dublin CD by the Chieftains and listened to the Wren song. It's such a chipper piece of music. Theresa > Dear friends of Beara, > > It's Saint Stephen's Day. Time to go out, find a little bird, and beat > it to death with sticks. Then carry it around asking people to donate > money for the funeral. > > [Copied from Wistorical, by Turtle Bunbury] > > THE SONG OF THE WREN > > ?The wren, the wren, the king of all birds, > St. Stephen's day was caught in the furze?. > > For most people in Ireland, the day after Christmas is St. Stephen?s > Day, named for the ill-fated deacon of Jerusalem who was stoned to > death a year or so after the crucifixion of Christ. > > For those of a British persuasion, the 26th December is Boxing Day, > named for an old English tradition of gifting presents to one?s staff > and servants known as a "Christmas box". > > But for many who live in old world Ireland, it is ?Wren Day?, so named > for the ancient tradition where young boys clad in masks and straw > suits would set off on a musical march through the parishes, > collecting money for charity, ideally with a luckless wren bird pinned > to the Wren leader?s musical pole. > > So if the weather looks ripe, why not gather together a posse of > likely youngsters and set off on the rounds. > > Or you could just listen to this recording of ?The Wran Song? by an > iconic union of The Clancy Brothers and The Furey Brothers - > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX7icoFY0U0 > > -- Bill > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net

Dear friends of Beara, It's Saint Stephen's Day. Time to go out, find a little bird, and beat it to death with sticks. Then carry it around asking people to donate money for the funeral. [Copied from Wistorical, by Turtle Bunbury] THE SONG OF THE WREN ?The wren, the wren, the king of all birds, St. Stephen's day was caught in the furze?. For most people in Ireland, the day after Christmas is St. Stephen?s Day, named for the ill-fated deacon of Jerusalem who was stoned to death a year or so after the crucifixion of Christ. For those of a British persuasion, the 26th December is Boxing Day, named for an old English tradition of gifting presents to one?s staff and servants known as a "Christmas box". But for many who live in old world Ireland, it is ?Wren Day?, so named for the ancient tradition where young boys clad in masks and straw suits would set off on a musical march through the parishes, collecting money for charity, ideally with a luckless wren bird pinned to the Wren leader?s musical pole. So if the weather looks ripe, why not gather together a posse of likely youngsters and set off on the rounds. Or you could just listen to this recording of ?The Wran Song? by an iconic union of The Clancy Brothers and The Furey Brothers - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX7icoFY0U0 -- Bill

Wishing all of the Beara members a fantastic Christmas day and a Happy and Healthy 2013. >From Ann Chilton (O'Sullivan-Og of Bere Island and Oxford, England)