Riobard, Thank you so much for this! It explains some of the Irish words in parentheses in your book Who Were My Ancestors...I was unable to find a translation for these anywhere...and I did not think to ask you directly... I am very grateful for all you share and have shared that has helped so many get to know our ancestors! Susan Twomey from northern California (Holland, Hampston, Harrington, Sullivan) On Oct 23, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Riobard O' Dwyer via wrote: > I still get requests for help from people. No rest for the wicked !! > For instance, because of the fact that Gaelic/Irish was spoken by > practically all the people around here in the olden days, the Priests, > in those times, when writing down the Records of Birth and Baptism, > wrote down the Surnames of the children in the Gaelic Language. > Nowadays, a person whose Surname in the States was, let us say: > Reilly, would then, when trying to trace an ancestor, find it put down > as Rahilly in the Parish Records. Likewise, the Gaelic version of > Mullins would be written as Mulliheen; the version of Holland in > Gaelic was Wholihan; the version of Driscoll/O'Driscoll was Minihane; > etc., etc. Riney was a Co. Kerry version of O'Neill ---- which found > its way occasionally to Beara; which is beside a part of its border > with Kerry. > The olden trades like Miller, Weaver, Tinsmith, Ropemaker (from the > remains of old fir trees), Boatbuilder, Blacksmith, Cooper, are gone > here, and the only Shoemaker now left in all of Beara is, as far as I > know, Jim Blake of Adrigole. > A Great Grandmother of mine, Maire Uonhi ( in her case Uonhi would > now be kown as Harrington), was born next to a forge in Eyeries, as > her father was a Blacksmith who gave Maire an iron gate as her fortune > when she got married. Her father was later evicted from their house > because he was, like many people around here in those times, evicted > because he was unable to pay the "rack rent" to the greedy Landlord. > You had about 30 odd versions of Sullivan/O'Sullivan who were put down > with their Branch-Names only. You often had the words "cliamhain > isteach" (= a man settling down in his wife's farm as a son-in-law to > her father ---- cliamhain = a son-in-law; isteach ( [coming] in. > A man was often known with an addition of his father's Christian name > e.g. Tade Philly (= Timothy, the son of Philip). Also Jackessy Mike = > John, the son of Michael; George Silvy (= George, the son of > Silvester); Quin Mag Jack (Quinlan, the son of Margaret, the daughter > of John); Dan Nell (=Daniel, the son of Ellen); Dan Donal Thaidhg > (Daniel, the son of Daniel, and the Grandson of Timothy); Batty Murt > (=Bartholomew, the son of Mortimor). On the feminine side, you had > Catherine Doncha Eoin (= Catherine, the daughter of Denis, and the > granddaughter of Eugene); Betty Phadraig (= Elizabeth, the daughter of > Patrick), and so on. > As boys often married young, and as girls often married younger, they > had big families. One time, again as of the olden days, I heard the > story of a woman who had a very big family. When a neighbour said to > her that she should take a "break" from the "activities" of her > husband, she replied: "Poor Mike, sure 'tis the only pastime he has" > !! > Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message From the... Music Studio of Susan Twomey 89 - 12th Street Arcata, CA 95521 tel. 707-826-0920
Hi!!! Always grand to "see" you. Quin -----Original Message----- From: Jane Sullivan via <beara@rootsweb.com> To: Bill Gawne <wcgawne@gmail.com>; beara <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2015 11:58 am Subject: Re: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? I have a paper map of the Ordinance Survey of Ireland and it shows Inches south of Eyries village , as Bill says, and just east of Coulagh townland.Jane Sullivan On Monday, October 19, 2015 11:33 AM, Bill Gawne via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Jack, all, If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217c0 It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located. Look a bit southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with Inches below that in italics. Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Mansfield via Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I have a paper map of the Ordinance Survey of Ireland and it shows Inches south of Eyries village , as Bill says, and just east of Coulagh townland.Jane Sullivan On Monday, October 19, 2015 11:33 AM, Bill Gawne via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Jack, all, If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217c0 It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located. Look a bit southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with Inches below that in italics. Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Mansfield via Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2015, at 9:54 AM, James P Murphy via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello, Tim -- > > Thank you for sharing your discoveries which I'm sure will be helpful to > many. > > My grandfather was born in Allihies area, son of Timothy Murphy (Reentrisk) > and Catherine Sullivan (Allihies). "Cate" moved to Fall River c. 1875. By > the 1880 Census she was a widow. Surnames mentioned by you that appear in my > research include (besides Murphy) Sullivan, Leary and O'Neil. In the 1900 > Census my grandfather, James P. Murphy, was outside Pittsburgh on his way to > West Virginia where he was an independent oil well driller. ("Above-ground" > mining, perhaps) > > If you have not consulted them already, the books of Riobard O'Dwyer will > surely help you connect some of the dots on the families you mention. > > James P. Murphy > Stuart, Fla. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of beara-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:00 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine (Tim King) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:24:06 -0400 > From: "Tim King" <tking53@comcast.net>
Wow--you guys are GREAT geographers! Thanks Jack John E. Mansfield, Ph. D. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of beara-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 1:09 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 100 Today's Topics: 1. Re: BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 (James P Murphy) 2. Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? (John Mansfield) 3. Re: Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? (Bill Gawne) 4. Re: Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? (Jane Sullivan) 5. Re: Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine (Bill Gawne) 6. Re: Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? (kerstentm@snowcrest.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 09:54:26 -0400 From: "James P Murphy" <jpmurphy@jpmurphy.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002501d10a75$ab0ad400$01207c00$@jpmurphy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, Tim -- Thank you for sharing your discoveries which I'm sure will be helpful to many. My grandfather was born in Allihies area, son of Timothy Murphy (Reentrisk) and Catherine Sullivan (Allihies). "Cate" moved to Fall River c. 1875. By the 1880 Census she was a widow. Surnames mentioned by you that appear in my research include (besides Murphy) Sullivan, Leary and O'Neil. In the 1900 Census my grandfather, James P. Murphy, was outside Pittsburgh on his way to West Virginia where he was an independent oil well driller. ("Above-ground" mining, perhaps) If you have not consulted them already, the books of Riobard O'Dwyer will surely help you connect some of the dots on the families you mention. James P. Murphy Stuart, Fla. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of beara-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:00 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 Today's Topics: 1. Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine (Tim King) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:24:06 -0400 From: "Tim King" <tking53@comcast.net> Subject: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6E993858598F448E8D27C97B64EA8B12@DebbKingPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I found a brief biography of Dennis J. Murphy of Portsmouth, RI in Representative Men and Old Families of Rhode Island. It is interesting because it also describes the ancestry of his parents coming from Beara, County Cork. Dennis J Murphy?s father came from near Castletown and was also named Dennis Murphy. The notes on the findagrave site says Killlawrence? The father was born in 1815 (again according to the gravestone. It also says that Dennis J. Murphy?s grandfather was Jeremiah Murphy. The biography goes on to say that Dennis Murphy (the senior) became an orphan in his early years, went to Wales to be with his sisters and left Wales for Newport, RI to be with his cousin Patrick Murphy. Dennis J. Murphy?s mother was Margaret Harrington who came from Barre [sic] Island near Castletown. Margaret was born in 1830 (again per findagrave) and her parents were Cornelius Harrington and Margaret McCarthy. Cornelius dies during the Famine and the rest of the family (the biography doesn?t name them) came to the US by way of St. John, New Brunswick in 1847, arriving in Newport, RI. In the mid-1850?s Dennis Murphy (the senior) moves his family to Carmel, Maine where there is a nascent Irish Settlement. The first group of Carmel, Irish Settlement residents were Patrick Murphy, Patrick Harrington, Daniel O?Neil, and Daniel Casey (born abt 1790) and his wife Ellen Carroll (born abt 1785) who arrived in Bangor, Maine about 1833-1835. Patrick Harrington marries Daniel Casey?s daughter Mary Clarissa Casey in 1835 in Bangor, Maine. Daniel O?Neil (born 1802/1804) marries Daniel Casey?s daughter Johannah in 1837 also in Bangor, Maine. All four families show up in the 1840 US Census for Carmel, Maine. Much later Patrick Harrington?s gravestone at Mt Pleasant Cemetery in Bangor, Maine (see findagrave) states that he came from Ereies Bear Haven Co. of Cork, Ireland [sic]. Patrick was born in 1812 and dies 1 Feb 1889. His wife Mary Casey?s gravestone states that she was a native of Castletown Bear Haven Co of Cork, Ireland. Mary was born Jul 1813 and dies 5 Apr 1873. Patrick Murphy is an interesting family. I have very information about him except he was widowed by 1850 lived to be 100 (according to the 1880 US Census for Carmel, ME) and may be related to John Murphy (shown below), or possibly the cousin referred to in Dennis Murphy?s biography. Two families came to Carmel from Cork County by way of New York in 1838 and settle in Carmel, Maine by 1840 including Phillip Harrington (b:1801/1802 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b: 1807 in New York) They marry in New York John McCarty (b:1805 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b:1820 Ireland). Mary is a widow by the 1860 Census. Shortly after 1840 they are joined by several families several of whom came by way of Newport, RI or Fall River, MA. Several of these families came from the Beara Peninsula area (I believe) including; James Sullivan and Mary Hanley (my ancestors), Daniel Harrington (b: between 1790 and 1800) and his wife Johannah Sulllivan (b: between 1780 and 179) and their adult sons Dennis Harrington and his wife Mary O?Neil, and Timothy Harrington Dennis Leary (or O?Leary) b: 1800 and his wife Abigail Harrington (daughter of Michael Harrington and ???) born in 1810. John Murphy (b: 1795 in Ireland) and Mary Ellen Sullivan (b: 1800 in Ireland) A couple of other families came at the same time. William Hews (Hewes/Hughes) and his wife Bridget Milady came to Carmel, ME before 1850 by way of Newport, RI but both were born in County Longford, Ireland. Philip Hynes and his wife Mary were also born in Ireland and arrived in Carmel, Maine before 1850 but I don?t know if they came by way of Newport, RI or what part of Ireland they were born. Michael Connor and his wife Joanna both born about 1800 in Ireland. They are not in the 1860 Census. Later arrivals in Carmel between 1850-1860 include Dennis Murphy (described in the beginning of this narrative), Patrick Bowen, Edward Murphy. I am interested in finding if anyone has an information on the Irish ancestry of any of these families that may connect them in any way particularly the Sullivans, Harringtons, Murphys, O?Neils, and Caseys. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to BEARA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:56:28 -0400 From: John Mansfield <jmansfie@outlook.com> Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BLU182-DS8359F330BA45888449504CD3A0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:33:33 -0400 From: "Bill Gawne" <wcgawne@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? To: "'John Mansfield'" <jmansfie@outlook.com>, <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <027401d10a83$841f91b0$8c5eb510$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Jack, all, If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217c0 It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located. Look a bit southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with Inches below that in italics. Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Mansfield via Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:57:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Jane Sullivan <fishsull2@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? To: Bill Gawne <wcgawne@gmail.com>, "beara@rootsweb.com" <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <1904197634.2570345.1445270240867.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I have a paper map of the Ordinance Survey of Ireland and it shows Inches south of Eyries village , as Bill says, and just east of Coulagh townland.Jane Sullivan On Monday, October 19, 2015 11:33 AM, Bill Gawne via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: Hello Jack, all, If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217c0 It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located.? Look a bit southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with Inches below that in italics.? Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Mansfield via Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? Or what are the townlands around it?? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:16:48 -0400 From: "Bill Gawne" <wcgawne@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine To: "'Tim King'" <tking53@comcast.net>, <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <034e01d10a89$8e764d10$ab62e730$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello Tim, all, I may have found something of use to you, Tim. Have a look at this http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/c236a80533944 It's the marriage record of Cornelius and Margaret Harrington, of Bere Island, on 21 Feb 1819. This may be the parents of your Margaret Harrington. I was not able to find a baptismal record for her, but if you're willing to cast a wider net throughout the diocese of Kerry you may find her somewhere other than Castletownbere parish. Keep in mind as you search that men named Jeremiah in civil records frequently appear as Darby or Dermot or Diarmuid in church records. I looked through all three volumes of The Annals of Beara yesterday evening, and couldn't find the specific names you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. Perhaps Riobard's excellent memory will be tickled by the names you've mentioned, and he'll be able to suggest where additional information may be found. (Though it may require a trip to the Massachusetts Historical Society.) Best of luck with your research, and if you find something do please let us know. Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim King via Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 8:24 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine I found a brief biography of Dennis J. Murphy of Portsmouth, RI in Representative Men and Old Families of Rhode Island. It is interesting because it also describes the ancestry of his parents coming from Beara, County Cork. Dennis J Murphy?s father came from near Castletown and was also named Dennis Murphy. The notes on the findagrave site says Killlawrence? The father was born in 1815 (again according to the gravestone. It also says that Dennis J. Murphy?s grandfather was Jeremiah Murphy. The biography goes on to say that Dennis Murphy (the senior) became an orphan in his early years, went to Wales to be with his sisters and left Wales for Newport, RI to be with his cousin Patrick Murphy. Dennis J. Murphy?s mother was Margaret Harrington who came from Barre [sic] Island near Castletown. Margaret was born in 1830 (again per findagrave) and her parents were Cornelius Harrington and Margaret McCarthy. Cornelius dies during the Famine and the rest of the family (the biography doesn?t name them) came to the US by way of St. John, New Brunswick in 1847, arriving in Newport, RI. In the mid-1850?s Dennis Murphy (the senior) moves his family to Carmel, Maine where there is a nascent Irish Settlement. The first group of Carmel, Irish Settlement residents were Patrick Murphy, Patrick Harrington, Daniel O?Neil, and Daniel Casey (born abt 1790) and his wife Ellen Carroll (born abt 1785) who arrived in Bangor, Maine about 1833-1835. Patrick Harrington marries Daniel Casey?s daughter Mary Clarissa Casey in 1835 in Bangor, Maine. Daniel O?Neil (born 1802/1804) marries Daniel Casey?s daughter Johannah in 1837 also in Bangor, Maine. All four families show up in the 1840 US Census for Carmel, Maine. Much later Patrick Harrington?s gravestone at Mt Pleasant Cemetery in Bangor, Maine (see findagrave) states that he came from Ereies Bear Haven Co. of Cork, Ireland [sic]. Patrick was born in 1812 and dies 1 Feb 1889. His wife Mary Casey?s gravestone states that she was a native of Castletown Bear Haven Co of Cork, Ireland. Mary was born Jul 1813 and dies 5 Apr 1873. Patrick Murphy is an interesting family. I have very information about him except he was widowed by 1850 lived to be 100 (according to the 1880 US Census for Carmel, ME) and may be related to John Murphy (shown below), or possibly the cousin referred to in Dennis Murphy?s biography. Two families came to Carmel from Cork County by way of New York in 1838 and settle in Carmel, Maine by 1840 including Phillip Harrington (b:1801/1802 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b: 1807 in New York) They marry in New York John McCarty (b:1805 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b:1820 Ireland). Mary is a widow by the 1860 Census. Shortly after 1840 they are joined by several families several of whom came by way of Newport, RI or Fall River, MA. Several of these families came from the Beara Peninsula area (I believe) including; James Sullivan and Mary Hanley (my ancestors), Daniel Harrington (b: between 1790 and 1800) and his wife Johannah Sulllivan (b: between 1780 and 179) and their adult sons Dennis Harrington and his wife Mary O?Neil, and Timothy Harrington Dennis Leary (or O?Leary) b: 1800 and his wife Abigail Harrington (daughter of Michael Harrington and ???) born in 1810. John Murphy (b: 1795 in Ireland) and Mary Ellen Sullivan (b: 1800 in Ireland) A couple of other families came at the same time. William Hews (Hewes/Hughes) and his wife Bridget Milady came to Carmel, ME before 1850 by way of Newport, RI but both were born in County Longford, Ireland. Philip Hynes and his wife Mary were also born in Ireland and arrived in Carmel, Maine before 1850 but I don?t know if they came by way of Newport, RI or what part of Ireland they were born. Michael Connor and his wife Joanna both born about 1800 in Ireland. They are not in the 1860 Census. Later arrivals in Carmel between 1850-1860 include Dennis Murphy (described in the beginning of this narrative), Patrick Bowen, Edward Murphy. I am interested in finding if anyone has an information on the Irish ancestry of any of these families that may connect them in any way particularly the Sullivans, Harringtons, Murphys, O?Neils, and Caseys. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:08:54 -0700 (PDT) From: kerstentm@snowcrest.net Subject: Re: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? To: "Bill Gawne" <wcgawne@gmail.com>, beara@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <49527.76.105.7.80.1445274534.squirrel@webmail.snowcrest.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Bill, Wow, Google maps has covered the whole area. You can use the street view option to go up and down the roads! I know what our Harrington farm looks like and our Murphy family house (no longer in the family), so am planning on driving around online tonight and seeing what the area looks like. For folks who aren't familiar with the new Google maps function, you click on a town on the map or on a road and it will give you a satellite view, then you take the little yellow man from the lower right hand corner and drag him to the area that you want to see and it switches to street view and you can use the arrows to drive up and down the roads and look on either side. Very cool! Thanks, Theresa > Hello Jack, all, > > If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. > 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217 > c0 > > It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located. Look a > bit southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with > Inches below that in italics. > > Bill Gawne > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of John Mansfield via > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? > > Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who > moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. 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Hello Tim, all, I may have found something of use to you, Tim. Have a look at this http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/c236a80533944 It's the marriage record of Cornelius and Margaret Harrington, of Bere Island, on 21 Feb 1819. This may be the parents of your Margaret Harrington. I was not able to find a baptismal record for her, but if you're willing to cast a wider net throughout the diocese of Kerry you may find her somewhere other than Castletownbere parish. Keep in mind as you search that men named Jeremiah in civil records frequently appear as Darby or Dermot or Diarmuid in church records. I looked through all three volumes of The Annals of Beara yesterday evening, and couldn't find the specific names you mentioned, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. Perhaps Riobard's excellent memory will be tickled by the names you've mentioned, and he'll be able to suggest where additional information may be found. (Though it may require a trip to the Massachusetts Historical Society.) Best of luck with your research, and if you find something do please let us know. Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim King via Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2015 8:24 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine I found a brief biography of Dennis J. Murphy of Portsmouth, RI in Representative Men and Old Families of Rhode Island. It is interesting because it also describes the ancestry of his parents coming from Beara, County Cork. Dennis J Murphy’s father came from near Castletown and was also named Dennis Murphy. The notes on the findagrave site says Killlawrence? The father was born in 1815 (again according to the gravestone. It also says that Dennis J. Murphy’s grandfather was Jeremiah Murphy. The biography goes on to say that Dennis Murphy (the senior) became an orphan in his early years, went to Wales to be with his sisters and left Wales for Newport, RI to be with his cousin Patrick Murphy. Dennis J. Murphy’s mother was Margaret Harrington who came from Barre [sic] Island near Castletown. Margaret was born in 1830 (again per findagrave) and her parents were Cornelius Harrington and Margaret McCarthy. Cornelius dies during the Famine and the rest of the family (the biography doesn’t name them) came to the US by way of St. John, New Brunswick in 1847, arriving in Newport, RI. In the mid-1850’s Dennis Murphy (the senior) moves his family to Carmel, Maine where there is a nascent Irish Settlement. The first group of Carmel, Irish Settlement residents were Patrick Murphy, Patrick Harrington, Daniel O’Neil, and Daniel Casey (born abt 1790) and his wife Ellen Carroll (born abt 1785) who arrived in Bangor, Maine about 1833-1835. Patrick Harrington marries Daniel Casey’s daughter Mary Clarissa Casey in 1835 in Bangor, Maine. Daniel O’Neil (born 1802/1804) marries Daniel Casey’s daughter Johannah in 1837 also in Bangor, Maine. All four families show up in the 1840 US Census for Carmel, Maine. Much later Patrick Harrington’s gravestone at Mt Pleasant Cemetery in Bangor, Maine (see findagrave) states that he came from Ereies Bear Haven Co. of Cork, Ireland [sic]. Patrick was born in 1812 and dies 1 Feb 1889. His wife Mary Casey’s gravestone states that she was a native of Castletown Bear Haven Co of Cork, Ireland. Mary was born Jul 1813 and dies 5 Apr 1873. Patrick Murphy is an interesting family. I have very information about him except he was widowed by 1850 lived to be 100 (according to the 1880 US Census for Carmel, ME) and may be related to John Murphy (shown below), or possibly the cousin referred to in Dennis Murphy’s biography. Two families came to Carmel from Cork County by way of New York in 1838 and settle in Carmel, Maine by 1840 including Phillip Harrington (b:1801/1802 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b: 1807 in New York) They marry in New York John McCarty (b:1805 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b:1820 Ireland). Mary is a widow by the 1860 Census. Shortly after 1840 they are joined by several families several of whom came by way of Newport, RI or Fall River, MA. Several of these families came from the Beara Peninsula area (I believe) including; James Sullivan and Mary Hanley (my ancestors), Daniel Harrington (b: between 1790 and 1800) and his wife Johannah Sulllivan (b: between 1780 and 179) and their adult sons Dennis Harrington and his wife Mary O’Neil, and Timothy Harrington Dennis Leary (or O’Leary) b: 1800 and his wife Abigail Harrington (daughter of Michael Harrington and ???) born in 1810. John Murphy (b: 1795 in Ireland) and Mary Ellen Sullivan (b: 1800 in Ireland) A couple of other families came at the same time. William Hews (Hewes/Hughes) and his wife Bridget Milady came to Carmel, ME before 1850 by way of Newport, RI but both were born in County Longford, Ireland. Philip Hynes and his wife Mary were also born in Ireland and arrived in Carmel, Maine before 1850 but I don’t know if they came by way of Newport, RI or what part of Ireland they were born. Michael Connor and his wife Joanna both born about 1800 in Ireland. They are not in the 1860 Census. Later arrivals in Carmel between 1850-1860 include Dennis Murphy (described in the beginning of this narrative), Patrick Bowen, Edward Murphy. I am interested in finding if anyone has an information on the Irish ancestry of any of these families that may connect them in any way particularly the Sullivans, Harringtons, Murphys, O’Neils, and Caseys. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Jack, all, If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217c0 It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located. Look a bit southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with Inches below that in italics. Bill Gawne -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Mansfield via Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there Jack Mansfield
Bill, Wow, Google maps has covered the whole area. You can use the street view option to go up and down the roads! I know what our Harrington farm looks like and our Murphy family house (no longer in the family), so am planning on driving around online tonight and seeing what the area looks like. For folks who aren't familiar with the new Google maps function, you click on a town on the map or on a road and it will give you a satellite view, then you take the little yellow man from the lower right hand corner and drag him to the area that you want to see and it switches to street view and you can use the arrows to drive up and down the roads and look on either side. Very cool! Thanks, Theresa > Hello Jack, all, > > If you'll point your browser of choice toward this link: > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eyeries,+Co.+Cork,+Ireland/@51.6901989,-9. > 9715547,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x48457dfa6bec0633:0xa00c7a9973217c0 > > It will show you exactly where Inches, Eyeries, is located. Look a bit > southeast of Eyeries village for a place labeled Eyeries Beg, with Inches > below that in italics. > > Bill Gawne > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of John Mansfield via > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 10:56 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Where on the map is Inches, Kilcatherine parish? > > Or what are the townlands around it? Riobard has a Batt Buaig who moved > from Inches to Inchinteskin. Who's our geographer out there > > Jack Mansfield > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net
Hello, Tim -- Thank you for sharing your discoveries which I'm sure will be helpful to many. My grandfather was born in Allihies area, son of Timothy Murphy (Reentrisk) and Catherine Sullivan (Allihies). "Cate" moved to Fall River c. 1875. By the 1880 Census she was a widow. Surnames mentioned by you that appear in my research include (besides Murphy) Sullivan, Leary and O'Neil. In the 1900 Census my grandfather, James P. Murphy, was outside Pittsburgh on his way to West Virginia where he was an independent oil well driller. ("Above-ground" mining, perhaps) If you have not consulted them already, the books of Riobard O'Dwyer will surely help you connect some of the dots on the families you mention. James P. Murphy Stuart, Fla. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of beara-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 3:00 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 Today's Topics: 1. Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine (Tim King) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 08:24:06 -0400 From: "Tim King" <tking53@comcast.net> Subject: [BEARA] Beara Peninsula Irish to Carmel, Maine To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <6E993858598F448E8D27C97B64EA8B12@DebbKingPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I found a brief biography of Dennis J. Murphy of Portsmouth, RI in Representative Men and Old Families of Rhode Island. It is interesting because it also describes the ancestry of his parents coming from Beara, County Cork. Dennis J Murphy?s father came from near Castletown and was also named Dennis Murphy. The notes on the findagrave site says Killlawrence? The father was born in 1815 (again according to the gravestone. It also says that Dennis J. Murphy?s grandfather was Jeremiah Murphy. The biography goes on to say that Dennis Murphy (the senior) became an orphan in his early years, went to Wales to be with his sisters and left Wales for Newport, RI to be with his cousin Patrick Murphy. Dennis J. Murphy?s mother was Margaret Harrington who came from Barre [sic] Island near Castletown. Margaret was born in 1830 (again per findagrave) and her parents were Cornelius Harrington and Margaret McCarthy. Cornelius dies during the Famine and the rest of the family (the biography doesn?t name them) came to the US by way of St. John, New Brunswick in 1847, arriving in Newport, RI. In the mid-1850?s Dennis Murphy (the senior) moves his family to Carmel, Maine where there is a nascent Irish Settlement. The first group of Carmel, Irish Settlement residents were Patrick Murphy, Patrick Harrington, Daniel O?Neil, and Daniel Casey (born abt 1790) and his wife Ellen Carroll (born abt 1785) who arrived in Bangor, Maine about 1833-1835. Patrick Harrington marries Daniel Casey?s daughter Mary Clarissa Casey in 1835 in Bangor, Maine. Daniel O?Neil (born 1802/1804) marries Daniel Casey?s daughter Johannah in 1837 also in Bangor, Maine. All four families show up in the 1840 US Census for Carmel, Maine. Much later Patrick Harrington?s gravestone at Mt Pleasant Cemetery in Bangor, Maine (see findagrave) states that he came from Ereies Bear Haven Co. of Cork, Ireland [sic]. Patrick was born in 1812 and dies 1 Feb 1889. His wife Mary Casey?s gravestone states that she was a native of Castletown Bear Haven Co of Cork, Ireland. Mary was born Jul 1813 and dies 5 Apr 1873. Patrick Murphy is an interesting family. I have very information about him except he was widowed by 1850 lived to be 100 (according to the 1880 US Census for Carmel, ME) and may be related to John Murphy (shown below), or possibly the cousin referred to in Dennis Murphy?s biography. Two families came to Carmel from Cork County by way of New York in 1838 and settle in Carmel, Maine by 1840 including Phillip Harrington (b:1801/1802 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b: 1807 in New York) They marry in New York John McCarty (b:1805 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b:1820 Ireland). Mary is a widow by the 1860 Census. Shortly after 1840 they are joined by several families several of whom came by way of Newport, RI or Fall River, MA. Several of these families came from the Beara Peninsula area (I believe) including; James Sullivan and Mary Hanley (my ancestors), Daniel Harrington (b: between 1790 and 1800) and his wife Johannah Sulllivan (b: between 1780 and 179) and their adult sons Dennis Harrington and his wife Mary O?Neil, and Timothy Harrington Dennis Leary (or O?Leary) b: 1800 and his wife Abigail Harrington (daughter of Michael Harrington and ???) born in 1810. John Murphy (b: 1795 in Ireland) and Mary Ellen Sullivan (b: 1800 in Ireland) A couple of other families came at the same time. William Hews (Hewes/Hughes) and his wife Bridget Milady came to Carmel, ME before 1850 by way of Newport, RI but both were born in County Longford, Ireland. Philip Hynes and his wife Mary were also born in Ireland and arrived in Carmel, Maine before 1850 but I don?t know if they came by way of Newport, RI or what part of Ireland they were born. Michael Connor and his wife Joanna both born about 1800 in Ireland. They are not in the 1860 Census. Later arrivals in Carmel between 1850-1860 include Dennis Murphy (described in the beginning of this narrative), Patrick Bowen, Edward Murphy. I am interested in finding if anyone has an information on the Irish ancestry of any of these families that may connect them in any way particularly the Sullivans, Harringtons, Murphys, O?Neils, and Caseys. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ------------------------------ To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to BEARA@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of BEARA Digest, Vol 10, Issue 99 *************************************
I found a brief biography of Dennis J. Murphy of Portsmouth, RI in Representative Men and Old Families of Rhode Island. It is interesting because it also describes the ancestry of his parents coming from Beara, County Cork. Dennis J Murphy’s father came from near Castletown and was also named Dennis Murphy. The notes on the findagrave site says Killlawrence? The father was born in 1815 (again according to the gravestone. It also says that Dennis J. Murphy’s grandfather was Jeremiah Murphy. The biography goes on to say that Dennis Murphy (the senior) became an orphan in his early years, went to Wales to be with his sisters and left Wales for Newport, RI to be with his cousin Patrick Murphy. Dennis J. Murphy’s mother was Margaret Harrington who came from Barre [sic] Island near Castletown. Margaret was born in 1830 (again per findagrave) and her parents were Cornelius Harrington and Margaret McCarthy. Cornelius dies during the Famine and the rest of the family (the biography doesn’t name them) came to the US by way of St. John, New Brunswick in 1847, arriving in Newport, RI. In the mid-1850’s Dennis Murphy (the senior) moves his family to Carmel, Maine where there is a nascent Irish Settlement. The first group of Carmel, Irish Settlement residents were Patrick Murphy, Patrick Harrington, Daniel O’Neil, and Daniel Casey (born abt 1790) and his wife Ellen Carroll (born abt 1785) who arrived in Bangor, Maine about 1833-1835. Patrick Harrington marries Daniel Casey’s daughter Mary Clarissa Casey in 1835 in Bangor, Maine. Daniel O’Neil (born 1802/1804) marries Daniel Casey’s daughter Johannah in 1837 also in Bangor, Maine. All four families show up in the 1840 US Census for Carmel, Maine. Much later Patrick Harrington’s gravestone at Mt Pleasant Cemetery in Bangor, Maine (see findagrave) states that he came from Ereies Bear Haven Co. of Cork, Ireland [sic]. Patrick was born in 1812 and dies 1 Feb 1889. His wife Mary Casey’s gravestone states that she was a native of Castletown Bear Haven Co of Cork, Ireland. Mary was born Jul 1813 and dies 5 Apr 1873. Patrick Murphy is an interesting family. I have very information about him except he was widowed by 1850 lived to be 100 (according to the 1880 US Census for Carmel, ME) and may be related to John Murphy (shown below), or possibly the cousin referred to in Dennis Murphy’s biography. Two families came to Carmel from Cork County by way of New York in 1838 and settle in Carmel, Maine by 1840 including Phillip Harrington (b:1801/1802 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b: 1807 in New York) They marry in New York John McCarty (b:1805 Ireland) and his wife Mary (b:1820 Ireland). Mary is a widow by the 1860 Census. Shortly after 1840 they are joined by several families several of whom came by way of Newport, RI or Fall River, MA. Several of these families came from the Beara Peninsula area (I believe) including; James Sullivan and Mary Hanley (my ancestors), Daniel Harrington (b: between 1790 and 1800) and his wife Johannah Sulllivan (b: between 1780 and 179) and their adult sons Dennis Harrington and his wife Mary O’Neil, and Timothy Harrington Dennis Leary (or O’Leary) b: 1800 and his wife Abigail Harrington (daughter of Michael Harrington and ???) born in 1810. John Murphy (b: 1795 in Ireland) and Mary Ellen Sullivan (b: 1800 in Ireland) A couple of other families came at the same time. William Hews (Hewes/Hughes) and his wife Bridget Milady came to Carmel, ME before 1850 by way of Newport, RI but both were born in County Longford, Ireland. Philip Hynes and his wife Mary were also born in Ireland and arrived in Carmel, Maine before 1850 but I don’t know if they came by way of Newport, RI or what part of Ireland they were born. Michael Connor and his wife Joanna both born about 1800 in Ireland. They are not in the 1860 Census. Later arrivals in Carmel between 1850-1860 include Dennis Murphy (described in the beginning of this narrative), Patrick Bowen, Edward Murphy. I am interested in finding if anyone has an information on the Irish ancestry of any of these families that may connect them in any way particularly the Sullivans, Harringtons, Murphys, O’Neils, and Caseys. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
Yesterday's Doc on One is The Anaconda Road Massacre. It visits Butte and Allihies looking at the Thomas Manning story. It can be it can be replayed on the website of RTE 1. http://www.rte.ie/radio1/doconone/2015/1009/733538-the-anaconda-road-massacre/ Cheers, Julie Sent from my Phone
As far as I know, the film: "From Beara to Butte", used to/can be purchased from The Radharc Trust, 43 Mount Merrion Ave., Blackrock, Co. Dublin, Ireland. It was made in 1995. I think that it is 25 minutes 20 seconds long, and tells of the stories of the emigrants from the Allihies Copper Mines in Beara to the Mines in Butte, Montana, USA. It is an excellent film. It was one of the Radharc series of films called Stories from America. Reference Number for the >From Beara to Butte film is, as far as I can remember, 370. The film is in DVD. One of the many writers, Susan Twomey, in California, said: "I appreciate the thrilling feeling this film conveys". It would be widely welcomed if it were shown on Irish Television again ----- 20 years later. ----- as the descendants of those emigrants are now spread all over the world ----- especially in the USA, in England, and in Ireland. Help in this can also be obtained from the Butte-Silver Bow Public Archives in Butte. Montana. Riobard.
The rate of childbirth in Beara during the 19th century ran about one birth every two years for women of childbearing age. A space of three years would suggest a miscarriage between the two live births. On Oct 10, 2015 3:02 PM, "Donald and Teresa Sullivan via" < beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Two of my husband's great grandfather's sisters found on the Irish records > were Margaret born in 1830 and Julia (who I first wrote about) in 1833. > Daniel (ggrandfather) was born in 1836. Does this seem about right with a > child born every three years in that time period? A side note, the records > say they were from Gooseberry Hill and in searching the internet found that > this town is noted for its horses. Daniel came to the US in about 1867 so > he would have been around horses apparently. This area was also a place > for slate mining and when he came to the US they went to Portland Conn. and > on census he was noted as a quarry laborer. > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Marge Rossini via <beara@rootsweb.com> > wrote: > > > I agree with Mike, the child was named after the mother. Many priests > used > > abbreviations for names. I see Jude for Judith. In my family I have seem > > Margt (sometimes just Marg and the g looks like a y, so it looks like > Mary) > > for Margaret, Wm for William, Michl or Mich for Michael, etc. > > > > Marge > > > > > > From: "Beara List" <beara@rootsweb.com> > > To: "Donald and Teresa Sullivan" <dsull88075@gmail.com> > > Cc: "Beara List" <beara@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 7:07:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [BEARA] NLI records > > > > It appears the child is named after her mother "Judi" or Judith Sullivan > -- > > Mike > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Two of my husband's great grandfather's sisters found on the Irish records were Margaret born in 1830 and Julia (who I first wrote about) in 1833. Daniel (ggrandfather) was born in 1836. Does this seem about right with a child born every three years in that time period? A side note, the records say they were from Gooseberry Hill and in searching the internet found that this town is noted for its horses. Daniel came to the US in about 1867 so he would have been around horses apparently. This area was also a place for slate mining and when he came to the US they went to Portland Conn. and on census he was noted as a quarry laborer. On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Marge Rossini via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I agree with Mike, the child was named after the mother. Many priests used > abbreviations for names. I see Jude for Judith. In my family I have seem > Margt (sometimes just Marg and the g looks like a y, so it looks like Mary) > for Margaret, Wm for William, Michl or Mich for Michael, etc. > > Marge > > > From: "Beara List" <beara@rootsweb.com> > To: "Donald and Teresa Sullivan" <dsull88075@gmail.com> > Cc: "Beara List" <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 7:07:22 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] NLI records > > It appears the child is named after her mother "Judi" or Judith Sullivan -- > Mike > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >
Julia/Jude might also be down as the Gaelic version: Sile/Sheila. Riobard. On 10 October 2015 at 03:35, Susan Twomey via <beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I found a Baptismal record for an ancestor of mine in Kerry, a daughter named Jude - who was baptized about that time...evidently a common girl's name at the time. > > Susan > > > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:07 PM, Mike Saunders via wrote: > >> It appears the child is named after her mother "Judi" or Judith Sullivan -- >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Donald and Teresa Sullivan < >> dsull88075@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This film is rather confusing because it back tracks a bit. The film is >>> "baptisms 1821- Dec 24, 1833" page 88, Newmarket diocese of Cloyne. Thanks >>> for looking. >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Mike Saunders <csaunders65@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't find him in the Feb. 25. 1833 baptismal records for this parish. >>>> Suggest you post a link. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Donald and Teresa Sullivan via < >>>> beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> This is not Berra but if someone has a spare minute, I would like to see >>>>> if >>>>> you see what I see on a record >>>>> Parish is Newmarket diocese of Cloyne. >>>>> Baptism is Feb 25. 1833 and definitely says Tim Sullivan and I think >>>>> Julia >>>>> Murphy. Name of child ????. This is my husbands family and I found his >>>>> great grandfather's baptism on Nov 3, 1836, and his parents marriage on >>>>> Jan >>>>> 17, 1830. >>>>> >>>>> These records are just fabulous and this parish is full of McAulliffes >>>>> and >>>>> O'Keefes. >>>>> Thanks oddles >>>>> Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >From the... > Music Studio of Susan Twomey > 89 - 12th Street > Arcata, CA 95521 > tel. 707-826-0920 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Riobard (O'Dwyer)
Wow Mike, that was a great find for Eleanor! Wouldn't we all love to have that first person account of our great or grgrgrandfather's life. Fabulous. I'd be jumping up and down. Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: Mike Saunders via <beara@rootsweb.com> To: beara <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 6, 2015 4:19 pm Subject: [BEARA] Fwd: Harrington Harrington To: Eleanor Simmons <lpn_simmons@yahoo.com> Here is a good link for you to his grave site in Canada which includes links to his wife and children. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=113698959&ref=acom Name: Henry Harrington > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I agree with Mike, the child was named after the mother. Many priests used abbreviations for names. I see Jude for Judith. In my family I have seem Margt (sometimes just Marg and the g looks like a y, so it looks like Mary) for Margaret, Wm for William, Michl or Mich for Michael, etc. Marge From: "Beara List" <beara@rootsweb.com> To: "Donald and Teresa Sullivan" <dsull88075@gmail.com> Cc: "Beara List" <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 7:07:22 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] NLI records It appears the child is named after her mother "Judi" or Judith Sullivan -- Mike
It appears the child is named after her mother "Judi" or Judith Sullivan -- Mike On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:44 PM, Donald and Teresa Sullivan < dsull88075@gmail.com> wrote: > This film is rather confusing because it back tracks a bit. The film is > "baptisms 1821- Dec 24, 1833" page 88, Newmarket diocese of Cloyne. Thanks > for looking. > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Mike Saunders <csaunders65@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I don't find him in the Feb. 25. 1833 baptismal records for this parish. >> Suggest you post a link. >> >> Mike >> >> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Donald and Teresa Sullivan via < >> beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> This is not Berra but if someone has a spare minute, I would like to see >>> if >>> you see what I see on a record >>> Parish is Newmarket diocese of Cloyne. >>> Baptism is Feb 25. 1833 and definitely says Tim Sullivan and I think >>> Julia >>> Murphy. Name of child ????. This is my husbands family and I found his >>> great grandfather's baptism on Nov 3, 1836, and his parents marriage on >>> Jan >>> 17, 1830. >>> >>> These records are just fabulous and this parish is full of McAulliffes >>> and >>> O'Keefes. >>> Thanks oddles >>> Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >
This film is rather confusing because it back tracks a bit. The film is "baptisms 1821- Dec 24, 1833" page 88, Newmarket diocese of Cloyne. Thanks for looking. On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Mike Saunders <csaunders65@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't find him in the Feb. 25. 1833 baptismal records for this parish. > Suggest you post a link. > > Mike > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Donald and Teresa Sullivan via < > beara@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> This is not Berra but if someone has a spare minute, I would like to see >> if >> you see what I see on a record >> Parish is Newmarket diocese of Cloyne. >> Baptism is Feb 25. 1833 and definitely says Tim Sullivan and I think Julia >> Murphy. Name of child ????. This is my husbands family and I found his >> great grandfather's baptism on Nov 3, 1836, and his parents marriage on >> Jan >> 17, 1830. >> >> These records are just fabulous and this parish is full of McAulliffes and >> O'Keefes. >> Thanks oddles >> Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >