Hello Mike, thank you for that site re destinations and I also thank you for the one following it - Castle Garden .com Very helpful. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Saunders" <csaunders65@gmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Destination # > Jessie, Take a look at this site > http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/destcodes.htm Mike > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Jessie O'Donnell <jessodonn@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> I found out my ggrandfather arrived in the USA at Castle Garden in the >> Battery of New York City. I found him on their list. It also told me >> his >> destination was 7328. Can anyone tell me how I can find out where that >> might be. I do know he ended up in Houghton,, Michigan, just thought he >> may >> have been sonewhere else for a short time before that. >> >> Jessie >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is the immigration area of NYC that predated Ellis Island. Those passenger manifests are largely available through Ancestry.com. ED In a message dated 7/12/2008 12:16:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jessodonn@hotmail.com writes: I found out my ggrandfather arrived in the USA at Castle Garden in the Battery of New York City. I found him on their list. It also told me his destination was 7328. Can anyone tell me how I can find out where that might be. I do know he ended up in Houghton,, Michigan, just thought he may have been sonewhere else for a short time before that. Jessie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

Hi, I am glad that Riobard is back and I wish you the very best...I have had three hospitalizations and two general anesthetics in the last three weeks. I have made a number of attempts to order Riobard's book but they have all bounced. If I could have an address for the order by ordinary post (I'm in Dublin)and the price including P+P I'll send it immediately. The contributions by Riobard are like a masterclass in genealogy for a novice like me..many thanks Address: dr. finbar o mahony, folkestone House, 44 terenure road east, rathgar, dublin 6 Finbar This message has been scanned for content and viruses by the DIT Information Services E-Mail Scanning Service, and is believed to be clean. http://www.dit.ie

Thanks Mike and Ed. I looked it up and that # has to destinations. One is Hartford, Conn., the other is USA. So it really didn't tell me much. I will check it out on Ancestry.com to see if there is any discrepancy. Jessie > Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 12:43:40 -0500 > From: csaunders65@gmail.com > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Destination # > > Jessie, Take a look at this site > http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/destcodes.htm Mike > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Jessie O'Donnell > wrote: > >> >> >> >> I found out my ggrandfather arrived in the USA at Castle Garden in the >> Battery of New York City. I found him on their list. It also told me his >> destination was 7328. Can anyone tell me how I can find out where that >> might be. I do know he ended up in Houghton,, Michigan, just thought he may >> have been sonewhere else for a short time before that. >> >> Jessie >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Hi Kathy I am related to the Sheas way bak in the early 1800s through my maternal line...Moriarty, Hartnett, MacGillacuddy... all great Kerry names for a Corkonian to have to admit to! That branch of the Sheas were in Cork from the 1700s and were apparently known as Shees...but you will have got all that from the site no doubt. Do you know where you grandmother O Mahony/Mahoney came from? The O Mahony Society would be a good starting point. I would love to know what branch of the clan she came from....look up the O Mahony surname yDNA project...it is coming on nicely. Finbar > > Finbar, > > I've been trying to figure out that Shea Clan has my Dad's family came to > Lawrence, MA from I think Newmarket, Cork, Ireland approx 1880.(Once in > Lawrence there was an ad in the paper for masons for Connelly Bros. in > Beverly > Farms, MA, so they move there. (Grandmother's name was O'Mahoney) > I guess I'll have to review it more. Kathy > > > > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > This message has been scanned for content and viruses by the DIT Information Services E-Mail Scanning Service, and is believed to be clean. http://www.dit.ie

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 1:03 PM, <EFoley1@aol.com> wrote: > This is the immigration area of NYC that predated Ellis Island. Those > passenger manifests are largely available through Ancestry.com. The Castle Garden ship manifests can be freely searched here http://www.castlegarden.org/ or on Steven Morse's web site here http://www.stevemorse.org/index.html Mike

Jessie, Take a look at this site http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/destcodes.htm Mike On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Jessie O'Donnell <jessodonn@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > I found out my ggrandfather arrived in the USA at Castle Garden in the > Battery of New York City. I found him on their list. It also told me his > destination was 7328. Can anyone tell me how I can find out where that > might be. I do know he ended up in Houghton,, Michigan, just thought he may > have been sonewhere else for a short time before that. > > Jessie > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I found out my ggrandfather arrived in the USA at Castle Garden in the Battery of New York City. I found him on their list. It also told me his destination was 7328. Can anyone tell me how I can find out where that might be. I do know he ended up in Houghton,, Michigan, just thought he may have been sonewhere else for a short time before that. Jessie

> > Hi Jessie I was just on to Margaret Jordan today.. she is the webmaster of the site. She really seems to know just about everything about the Shea Clan. My maternal gggggranfather was a Daniel Shea from Cork. his daughter was a Mary Shea... and Margaret and I seem to link up back around 1800. Glad you enjoy it... Finbar > Finbar, > > I don't know if I ever thanked you for your reply and informing me of the > Shea Clan Website. I now have it in my favorites and refer to it often. > > Jessie > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:58:26 +0100 >> From: finbaromahony@dit.ie >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [BEARA] Shea Clan: for Jessie >> >>> Hi Jessie >> >> Have you tried the Shea Clan Website..one of my very distant cousins is >> webmmaster..give it a try. >> >> It is a great site and a is a very active support group. >> >> Finbar >>> >>> No Lorri. I don't know to much about my husbands side of the family, >>> the >>> O'Donnells. I am researching my mothers side, which is Shea. I can't >>> seem to get accross the pond. I know a lot about them when in the USA, >>> but not before. My great grandfather came over in 1951 and worked the >>> mines in Michigan and Colorado. Sorry that I can't help. Jessie >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> From: phillylorri@comcast.net >>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:01:15 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Royal Irish Constabulary Roll >>>> >>>> Jessie, did you have any ODonnell in Phila Pa ? >>>> Lorri >>>> >>>> >>>> E >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Jessie O'Donnell" >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:17 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Royal Irish Constabulary Roll >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just scrolled through that list, My, those were some bloody years. >>>>> >>>>> Jessie O'Donnell >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: EilGrffths@aol.com >>>>>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:03:47 -0400 >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: [BEARA] Royal Irish Constabulary Roll >>>>>> >>>>>> If you put the subject into your search engine you will find a list >>>>>> of >>>>>> those >>>>>> killed, also a list of the Doyles Clan Roll of Honour. >>>>>> >>>>>> John Patrick Griffiths >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> This message has been scanned for content and viruses by the DIT >> Information Services E-Mail Scanning Service, and is believed to be >> clean. http://www.dit.ie >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > This message has been scanned for content and viruses by the DIT Information Services E-Mail Scanning Service, and is believed to be clean. http://www.dit.ie

Finbar, I've been trying to figure out that Shea Clan has my Dad's family came to Lawrence, MA from I think Newmarket, Cork, Ireland approx 1880.(Once in Lawrence there was an ad in the paper for masons for Connelly Bros. in Beverly Farms, MA, so they move there. (Grandmother's name was O'Mahoney) I guess I'll have to review it more. Kathy **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)

i have not got back beyond my grandfather's parents jeremiah sullivan and helela sullivan,although the sponsers at the baptizm were john mcgrath and christine sullivan so i am stuck at about 1870 --- On Fri, 7/11/08, Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> wrote: From: Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, July 11, 2008, 3:19 AM Thanks, Lisa. John, Baptised November 22nd 1856 by Fr. John O'Leary C.C. Godparents:- John Watson & Catherine Sullivan (only Baptismal dates given then) was son of Roger Sullivan (2nd marriage) & Johanna Neill. There was a son John (Baptised December 21st 1841 by Fr. Timothy Enright C.C.) who obviously died young. He was son of Roger Sullivan (1st marriage) & Julia Kelly. You are mixing up the 2 Johns. The Civil Deaths Records didn't start in Ireland until January 1st 1861. The second John (Baptised Nov. 22nd 1856) was known as John (Roger). He and his wife Brigid O'Sullivan(Seer) had 14 children. You can read all about them in my book "Who were my Ancestors ? Bere Island Parish.". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <jpsullivan38@yahoo.com>; <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > > Welcome back Riobard! Glad to hear you're feeling better as well. > > I'm with James, should you find any O'Sullivan's or death dates/locations > for Brigid O'Sullivan b. Feb 1870 Cork and her husband John O'Sullivan b. > Nov 1856 Bere Island or HIS parents Roger O'Sullivan and Julia Kelly > would > love to know more! > > Still looking for descendents of Brigid and John as well, though you have > given me much! I've really been enjoying the Bere Island book as well. > Thanks again for that! > > > > Lisa O' > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of james sullivan > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:47 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > > if you find any sullivans related to jeremiah sullivan and helena sullivan > circa 1870's let me know.. my father told me in the 50's we had relatives > in > fall river in the trucking business.my grandfather was born to jeremiah > and > helena in 1872 in bantry, he came here in 1896 to boston. i am 70 so there > is no one left to ask > > james sullivan > jpsullivan38@yahoo.com > > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, paul.mcdonough@comcast.net > <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> > wrote: > From: paul.mcdonough@comcast.net <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:05 AM > > I want to wish all those linking in well and reach out to Riobard to take > care of himself. I am reconnecting after some absence from the lively > exchanges on this site. Quite recently, I have been able to learn more > about my great grandmother Julia Harrington who migrated with her mother > Honora Kelley Harrington to Fall River Mass in 1892. I have just learned > that her father was Jeremiah Harrington and my suspicion is that he must > have passed away and that led to the emigration. So I now know the names > of > both great great grandparents. And can add that Honora Kelley was born > about 1837. > > Julia Harrington was born in the house that served as the post office in > Castletownebere in 1874. I visited and stayed there with my distant > cousin > Julia Harrington in 1980 (Riobard may recall an exchange of emails on this > topic some years back). That distant cousin has since passed away. > > I am now seeking information on Honora Kelley and Jeremiah Harrington as > well as information on the rest of their children. Family anecdotes > indicate that Julia's grandfather worked in the Alihies copper mines. > > My great grandmother married Eugene Sullivan from Bandon who migrated to > Fall River from Bandon. Trying to piece together that side of the family > tree is quite difficult since there were so many Sullivans in Fall River - > over 350 by 1890. > > For those on the list, the other side of the family tree is composed of > McDonough's and Powers who were already in Fall River by 1870 and some > even > in 1860. I have put together a good part of that family tree - if anyone > is > interested... > > Looking forward to your responses. All the best... > > -- > Paul McDonough > paul.mcdonough@comcast.net > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcdonough > 770-380-6183 > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Back again !! (Riobard O'Dwyer) >> 2. Allihies Parish (DSull88075@aol.com) 3. Re: Back again !! (Jim >> McCarthy) 4. Re: Back again !! (Julie Ohanley) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:39:05 +0100 >> From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" >> Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! >> To: >> Message-ID: <002a01c8e1da$09a1d4e0$9fd4869f@ROD> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, Murly. >> Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the old > records. >> They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were looking for >> one > of >> them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any of the others. > In the >> U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would find all of them >> under > the one >> name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the length of time it takes to > sort them >> out, but, as they say: "Patience and prayers brought the snails to > Jerusalem" >> --- if you work hard enough and long enough at something, you will >> likely eventually get there. >> Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from the >> Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because > people from >> townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to >> Mass in > >> nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of >> Reenmeen > East >> and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, even though > they are >> many miles away from Bantry. >> Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of work > in >> tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the Parishes. > Where, >> say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, or sometimes > just the >> names of people, were given in the books, I now have the name of a >> person, > >> his/her date of birth (from different times in different parishes), >> the > date of >> Baptism, the Priest who performed the ceremony, the godparents; the >> dates > of >> marriages (locally), Priest, and the witnesses. and even all the data >> on > some of >> the marriages performed in places like England and the U.S.A. I am not > working >> as late into the night as I used to, because I had worked myself into >> the ground, and, possibly as a result, had spent about a week in >> Bantry > Hospital >> recently, but I want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, > alot of >> what I have now will probably be gone with me, and then people who > don't get >> their ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> y live to regret it later. >> Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to the >> Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family >> of > 13. I >> found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. She > hadn't been >> recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and the twelve > surviving >> children just disappeared from here. None of them died here. The >> likely > place >> they would have emigrated to would have been the States, and so there >> must > be >> several of their decendants somewhere out there still wondering who >> their ancestors were. >> ------ Riobard. >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:18:13 EDT >> From: DSull88075@aol.com >> Subject: [BEARA] Allihies Parish >> To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I noted in the Kerry papers that Father Liam Comer has been reassigned >> to another parish. Who is the priest now at Allihies? >> >> Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. >> >> >> >> **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music >> scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! >> (www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:32:31 -0400 >> From: "Jim McCarthy" >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! >> To: >> Message-ID: <016601c8e1fa$88159ad0$6501a8c0@mccarthy> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> You found my grandfather Hurley under "Murphy": Patrick, son of > Denis >> Murphy/i.e. Murley and Johanna Toomey; 1857. So even in the 'old' > days you >> were pretty clever. James Hurley McCarthy, [with roots in Allihies, >> Bere Island, Fall River] Somerville, MA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! >> >> >> > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, >> > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in > the >> > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you > were >> > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him > under any >> > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you > would >> > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised > at the >> > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: > "Patience and >> > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard > enough and >> > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. >> > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from >> > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, > because people >> > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go > to >> > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other > side of >> > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry > Parish, >> > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. >> > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > >> > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all > the >> > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of > birth, >> > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now > have >> > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in >> > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed > the >> > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, > and >> > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages > performed in >> > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the > night >> > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, > possibly >> > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but > I >> > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have >> > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their >> > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> > y live to regret it later. >> > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to >> > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a > family >> > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 > years. >> > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the > parents and >> > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of > them >> > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have > been >> > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants > somewhere out >> > there still wondering who their ancestors were. >> > ------ Riobard. >> > >> > -- >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:48:24 -0400 >> From: "Julie Ohanley" >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! >> To: >> Message-ID: <115236E776DE425B8A30E74D785C9031@DaveJuliePC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Riobard, you were kind enough to share your research and wonderful books >> that revealed my ggrandmother Honora Hurley Hanley had such fantastic >> surname recordings with each baptism of her eight children. Very > interesting >> how it ended up as Hurley. From what I read from the Allihies & >> CastletownbereParish books, I don't believe she probably used Hurley > until >> after she emigrated to Fall River. Unfortunately, I do not know much >> about > >> her life here in the States or in Beara, and her son my grandfather > Timothy >> Hanley died when I was but 2. I understand and can follow the logic of >> branch names that became permanent surnames but I wonder if it's only > Murhil >> that underwent spelling variations. I would be interested in learning >> why, > >> if it can be reasoned. Similar to branch names? Or, are there other Beara >> families that spelled their names in various ways? >> >> >> Julie O'Hanley >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! >> >> >> > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, >> > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in > the >> > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you > were >> > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him > under any >> > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you > would >> > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised > at the >> > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: > "Patience and >> > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard > enough and >> > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. >> > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from >> > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, > because people >> > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go > to >> > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other > side of >> > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry > Parish, >> > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. >> > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > >> > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all > the >> > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of > birth, >> > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now > have >> > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in >> > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed > the >> > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, > and >> > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages > performed in >> > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the > night >> > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, > possibly >> > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but > I >> > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have >> > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their >> > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> > y live to regret it later. >> > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to >> > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a > family >> > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 > years. >> > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the > parents and >> > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of > them >> > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have > been >> > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants > somewhere out >> > there still wondering who their ancestors were. >> > ------ Riobard. >> > >> > -- >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to >> BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to >> BEARA@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject > and the body of >> the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 >> ************************************* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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Finbar, I don't know if I ever thanked you for your reply and informing me of the Shea Clan Website. I now have it in my favorites and refer to it often. Jessie > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 21:58:26 +0100 > From: finbaromahony@dit.ie > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Shea Clan: for Jessie > >> Hi Jessie > > Have you tried the Shea Clan Website..one of my very distant cousins is > webmmaster..give it a try. > > It is a great site and a is a very active support group. > > Finbar >> >> No Lorri. I don't know to much about my husbands side of the family, the >> O'Donnells. I am researching my mothers side, which is Shea. I can't >> seem to get accross the pond. I know a lot about them when in the USA, >> but not before. My great grandfather came over in 1951 and worked the >> mines in Michigan and Colorado. Sorry that I can't help. Jessie >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> From: phillylorri@comcast.net >>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:01:15 -0400 >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Royal Irish Constabulary Roll >>> >>> Jessie, did you have any ODonnell in Phila Pa ? >>> Lorri >>> >>> >>> E >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jessie O'Donnell" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:17 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Royal Irish Constabulary Roll >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I just scrolled through that list, My, those were some bloody years. >>>> >>>> Jessie O'Donnell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: EilGrffths@aol.com >>>>> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:03:47 -0400 >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: [BEARA] Royal Irish Constabulary Roll >>>>> >>>>> If you put the subject into your search engine you will find a list of >>>>> those >>>>> killed, also a list of the Doyles Clan Roll of Honour. >>>>> >>>>> John Patrick Griffiths >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > This message has been scanned for content and viruses by the DIT Information Services E-Mail Scanning Service, and is believed to be clean. http://www.dit.ie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Meg. You are spot on. The Gaelic for Hurley is O Muirthille (pronounced like Oh Muirhille). It is easy to go to Murhilly, etc., from there. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mmjjlemul@juno.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Murhil to Hurley? > Hello Riobard, > > Happy to see you back. I too am interested in how Murhil, Murhilly > morphed into Hurley. Does it have something to do with the translation > from the Irish language into English? > Take care of yourself and the best to you and Joan. > > Peace... > Meg Mulvey > > ____________________________________________________________ > Beauty Product Reviews > Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews and Join Our Product Review Team! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7VWGlv929H1RqDWFwdtexvjXQpl6YVCVkpUQHsD1MWh97zt/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1306 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Thanks, Lisa. John, Baptised November 22nd 1856 by Fr. John O'Leary C.C. Godparents:- John Watson & Catherine Sullivan (only Baptismal dates given then) was son of Roger Sullivan (2nd marriage) & Johanna Neill. There was a son John (Baptised December 21st 1841 by Fr. Timothy Enright C.C.) who obviously died young. He was son of Roger Sullivan (1st marriage) & Julia Kelly. You are mixing up the 2 Johns. The Civil Deaths Records didn't start in Ireland until January 1st 1861. The second John (Baptised Nov. 22nd 1856) was known as John (Roger). He and his wife Brigid O'Sullivan(Seer) had 14 children. You can read all about them in my book "Who were my Ancestors ? Bere Island Parish.". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <jpsullivan38@yahoo.com>; <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > > Welcome back Riobard! Glad to hear you're feeling better as well. > > I'm with James, should you find any O'Sullivan's or death dates/locations > for Brigid O'Sullivan b. Feb 1870 Cork and her husband John O'Sullivan b. > Nov 1856 Bere Island or HIS parents Roger O'Sullivan and Julia Kelly > would > love to know more! > > Still looking for descendents of Brigid and John as well, though you have > given me much! I've really been enjoying the Bere Island book as well. > Thanks again for that! > > > > Lisa O' > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of james sullivan > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:47 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > > if you find any sullivans related to jeremiah sullivan and helena sullivan > circa 1870's let me know.. my father told me in the 50's we had relatives > in > fall river in the trucking business.my grandfather was born to jeremiah > and > helena in 1872 in bantry, he came here in 1896 to boston. i am 70 so there > is no one left to ask > > james sullivan > jpsullivan38@yahoo.com > > --- On Thu, 7/10/08, paul.mcdonough@comcast.net > <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> > wrote: > From: paul.mcdonough@comcast.net <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:05 AM > > I want to wish all those linking in well and reach out to Riobard to take > care of himself. I am reconnecting after some absence from the lively > exchanges on this site. Quite recently, I have been able to learn more > about my great grandmother Julia Harrington who migrated with her mother > Honora Kelley Harrington to Fall River Mass in 1892. I have just learned > that her father was Jeremiah Harrington and my suspicion is that he must > have passed away and that led to the emigration. So I now know the names > of > both great great grandparents. And can add that Honora Kelley was born > about 1837. > > Julia Harrington was born in the house that served as the post office in > Castletownebere in 1874. I visited and stayed there with my distant > cousin > Julia Harrington in 1980 (Riobard may recall an exchange of emails on this > topic some years back). That distant cousin has since passed away. > > I am now seeking information on Honora Kelley and Jeremiah Harrington as > well as information on the rest of their children. Family anecdotes > indicate that Julia's grandfather worked in the Alihies copper mines. > > My great grandmother married Eugene Sullivan from Bandon who migrated to > Fall River from Bandon. Trying to piece together that side of the family > tree is quite difficult since there were so many Sullivans in Fall River - > over 350 by 1890. > > For those on the list, the other side of the family tree is composed of > McDonough's and Powers who were already in Fall River by 1870 and some > even > in 1860. I have put together a good part of that family tree - if anyone > is > interested... > > Looking forward to your responses. All the best... > > -- > Paul McDonough > paul.mcdonough@comcast.net > http://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcdonough > 770-380-6183 > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Back again !! (Riobard O'Dwyer) >> 2. Allihies Parish (DSull88075@aol.com) 3. Re: Back again !! (Jim >> McCarthy) 4. Re: Back again !! (Julie Ohanley) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:39:05 +0100 >> From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" >> Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! >> To: >> Message-ID: <002a01c8e1da$09a1d4e0$9fd4869f@ROD> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, Murly. >> Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the old > records. >> They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were looking for >> one > of >> them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any of the others. > In the >> U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would find all of them >> under > the one >> name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the length of time it takes to > sort them >> out, but, as they say: "Patience and prayers brought the snails to > Jerusalem" >> --- if you work hard enough and long enough at something, you will >> likely eventually get there. >> Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from the >> Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because > people from >> townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to >> Mass in > >> nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of >> Reenmeen > East >> and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, even though > they are >> many miles away from Bantry. >> Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of work > in >> tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the Parishes. > Where, >> say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, or sometimes > just the >> names of people, were given in the books, I now have the name of a >> person, > >> his/her date of birth (from different times in different parishes), >> the > date of >> Baptism, the Priest who performed the ceremony, the godparents; the >> dates > of >> marriages (locally), Priest, and the witnesses. and even all the data >> on > some of >> the marriages performed in places like England and the U.S.A. I am not > working >> as late into the night as I used to, because I had worked myself into >> the ground, and, possibly as a result, had spent about a week in >> Bantry > Hospital >> recently, but I want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, > alot of >> what I have now will probably be gone with me, and then people who > don't get >> their ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> y live to regret it later. >> Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to the >> Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family >> of > 13. I >> found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. She > hadn't been >> recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and the twelve > surviving >> children just disappeared from here. None of them died here. The >> likely > place >> they would have emigrated to would have been the States, and so there >> must > be >> several of their decendants somewhere out there still wondering who >> their ancestors were. >> ------ Riobard. >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:18:13 EDT >> From: DSull88075@aol.com >> Subject: [BEARA] Allihies Parish >> To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> I noted in the Kerry papers that Father Liam Comer has been reassigned >> to another parish. Who is the priest now at Allihies? >> >> Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. >> >> >> >> **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live > music >> scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! >> (www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:32:31 -0400 >> From: "Jim McCarthy" >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! >> To: >> Message-ID: <016601c8e1fa$88159ad0$6501a8c0@mccarthy> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> You found my grandfather Hurley under "Murphy": Patrick, son of > Denis >> Murphy/i.e. Murley and Johanna Toomey; 1857. So even in the 'old' > days you >> were pretty clever. James Hurley McCarthy, [with roots in Allihies, >> Bere Island, Fall River] Somerville, MA >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! >> >> >> > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, >> > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in > the >> > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you > were >> > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him > under any >> > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you > would >> > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised > at the >> > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: > "Patience and >> > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard > enough and >> > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. >> > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from >> > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, > because people >> > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go > to >> > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other > side of >> > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry > Parish, >> > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. >> > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > >> > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all > the >> > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of > birth, >> > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now > have >> > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in >> > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed > the >> > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, > and >> > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages > performed in >> > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the > night >> > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, > possibly >> > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but > I >> > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have >> > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their >> > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> > y live to regret it later. >> > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to >> > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a > family >> > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 > years. >> > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the > parents and >> > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of > them >> > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have > been >> > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants > somewhere out >> > there still wondering who their ancestors were. >> > ------ Riobard. >> > >> > -- >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:48:24 -0400 >> From: "Julie Ohanley" >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! >> To: >> Message-ID: <115236E776DE425B8A30E74D785C9031@DaveJuliePC> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Riobard, you were kind enough to share your research and wonderful books >> that revealed my ggrandmother Honora Hurley Hanley had such fantastic >> surname recordings with each baptism of her eight children. Very > interesting >> how it ended up as Hurley. From what I read from the Allihies & >> CastletownbereParish books, I don't believe she probably used Hurley > until >> after she emigrated to Fall River. Unfortunately, I do not know much >> about > >> her life here in the States or in Beara, and her son my grandfather > Timothy >> Hanley died when I was but 2. I understand and can follow the logic of >> branch names that became permanent surnames but I wonder if it's only > Murhil >> that underwent spelling variations. I would be interested in learning >> why, > >> if it can be reasoned. Similar to branch names? Or, are there other Beara >> families that spelled their names in various ways? >> >> >> Julie O'Hanley >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" >> To: >> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! >> >> >> > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, >> > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in > the >> > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you > were >> > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him > under any >> > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you > would >> > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised > at the >> > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: > "Patience and >> > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard > enough and >> > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. >> > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from >> > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, > because people >> > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go > to >> > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other > side of >> > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry > Parish, >> > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. >> > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > >> > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all > the >> > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of > birth, >> > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now > have >> > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in >> > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed > the >> > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, > and >> > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages > performed in >> > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the > night >> > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, > possibly >> > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but > I >> > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have >> > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their >> > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> > y live to regret it later. >> > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to >> > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a > family >> > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 > years. >> > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the > parents and >> > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of > them >> > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have > been >> > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants > somewhere out >> > there still wondering who their ancestors were. >> > ------ Riobard. >> > >> > -- >> > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to >> BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to >> BEARA@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject > and the body of >> the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 >> ************************************* > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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Hello Riobard, Happy to see you back. I too am interested in how Murhil, Murhilly morphed into Hurley. Does it have something to do with the translation from the Irish language into English? Take care of yourself and the best to you and Joan. Peace... Meg Mulvey ____________________________________________________________ Beauty Product Reviews Read Unbiased Beauty Product Reviews and Join Our Product Review Team! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7VWGlv929H1RqDWFwdtexvjXQpl6YVCVkpUQHsD1MWh97zt/

James, I would write, call or email a Fall River librarian and ask them to look up old phone books under "Trucking" for any mention of Sullivans. They should tell you the address they were operating out of, then look up Sullivan in the residential section and see who is listed as a Trucker. Or in some poll books, the occupations are listed next to the person's name, so that might be the way to go. At least this is a way to start the search. Best wishes, Susan On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 3:46 PM, james sullivan <jpsullivan38@yahoo.com> wrote: > if you find any sullivans related to jeremiah sullivan and helena sullivan circa 1870's let me know.. my father told me in the 50's we had relatives in fall river in the trucking business.my grandfather was born to jeremiah and helena in 1872 in bantry, he came here in 1896 to boston. i am 70 so there is no one left to ask > > james sullivan > jpsullivan38@yahoo.com

Welcome back Riobard! Glad to hear you're feeling better as well. I'm with James, should you find any O'Sullivan's or death dates/locations for Brigid O'Sullivan b. Feb 1870 Cork and her husband John O'Sullivan b. Nov 1856 Bere Island or HIS parents Roger O'Sullivan and Julia Kelly would love to know more! Still looking for descendents of Brigid and John as well, though you have given me much! I've really been enjoying the Bere Island book as well. Thanks again for that! Lisa O' -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of james sullivan Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:47 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 if you find any sullivans related to jeremiah sullivan and helena sullivan circa 1870's let me know.. my father told me in the 50's we had relatives in fall river in the trucking business.my grandfather was born to jeremiah and helena in 1872 in bantry, he came here in 1896 to boston. i am 70 so there is no one left to ask james sullivan jpsullivan38@yahoo.com --- On Thu, 7/10/08, paul.mcdonough@comcast.net <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> wrote: From: paul.mcdonough@comcast.net <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:05 AM I want to wish all those linking in well and reach out to Riobard to take care of himself. I am reconnecting after some absence from the lively exchanges on this site. Quite recently, I have been able to learn more about my great grandmother Julia Harrington who migrated with her mother Honora Kelley Harrington to Fall River Mass in 1892. I have just learned that her father was Jeremiah Harrington and my suspicion is that he must have passed away and that led to the emigration. So I now know the names of both great great grandparents. And can add that Honora Kelley was born about 1837. Julia Harrington was born in the house that served as the post office in Castletownebere in 1874. I visited and stayed there with my distant cousin Julia Harrington in 1980 (Riobard may recall an exchange of emails on this topic some years back). That distant cousin has since passed away. I am now seeking information on Honora Kelley and Jeremiah Harrington as well as information on the rest of their children. Family anecdotes indicate that Julia's grandfather worked in the Alihies copper mines. My great grandmother married Eugene Sullivan from Bandon who migrated to Fall River from Bandon. Trying to piece together that side of the family tree is quite difficult since there were so many Sullivans in Fall River - over 350 by 1890. For those on the list, the other side of the family tree is composed of McDonough's and Powers who were already in Fall River by 1870 and some even in 1860. I have put together a good part of that family tree - if anyone is interested... Looking forward to your responses. All the best... -- Paul McDonough paul.mcdonough@comcast.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcdonough 770-380-6183 -------------- Original message -------------- From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Back again !! (Riobard O'Dwyer) > 2. Allihies Parish (DSull88075@aol.com) 3. Re: Back again !! (Jim > McCarthy) 4. Re: Back again !! (Julie Ohanley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:39:05 +0100 > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <002a01c8e1da$09a1d4e0$9fd4869f@ROD> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, Murly. > Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the old records. > They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were looking for > one of > them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any of the others. In the > U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would find all of them > under the one > name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the length of time it takes to sort them > out, but, as they say: "Patience and prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" > --- if you work hard enough and long enough at something, you will > likely eventually get there. > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from the > Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people from > townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > Mass in > nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > Reenmeen East > and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, even though they are > many miles away from Bantry. > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of work in > tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the Parishes. Where, > say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, or sometimes just the > names of people, were given in the books, I now have the name of a > person, > his/her date of birth (from different times in different parishes), > the date of > Baptism, the Priest who performed the ceremony, the godparents; the > dates of > marriages (locally), Priest, and the witnesses. and even all the data > on some of > the marriages performed in places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working > as late into the night as I used to, because I had worked myself into > the ground, and, possibly as a result, had spent about a week in > Bantry Hospital > recently, but I want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > y live to regret it later. > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to the > Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > of 13. I > found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. She hadn't been > recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and the twelve surviving > children just disappeared from here. None of them died here. The > likely place > they would have emigrated to would have been the States, and so there > must be > several of their decendants somewhere out there still wondering who > their ancestors were. > ------ Riobard. > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:18:13 EDT > From: DSull88075@aol.com > Subject: [BEARA] Allihies Parish > To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I noted in the Kerry papers that Father Liam Comer has been reassigned > to another parish. Who is the priest now at Allihies? > > Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:32:31 -0400 > From: "Jim McCarthy" > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <016601c8e1fa$88159ad0$6501a8c0@mccarthy> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > You found my grandfather Hurley under "Murphy": Patrick, son of Denis > Murphy/i.e. Murley and Johanna Toomey; 1857. So even in the 'old' days you > were pretty clever. James Hurley McCarthy, [with roots in Allihies, > Bere Island, Fall River] Somerville, MA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, > > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the > > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were > > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any > > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would > > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the > > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and > > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and > > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. > > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from > > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people > > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, > > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. > > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the > > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, > > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now have > > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in > > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the > > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and > > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed in > > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the night > > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly > > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I > > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have > > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their > > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > > y live to regret it later. > > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to > > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. > > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and > > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them > > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been > > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere out > > there still wondering who their ancestors were. > > ------ Riobard. > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:48:24 -0400 > From: "Julie Ohanley" > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <115236E776DE425B8A30E74D785C9031@DaveJuliePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Riobard, you were kind enough to share your research and wonderful books > that revealed my ggrandmother Honora Hurley Hanley had such fantastic > surname recordings with each baptism of her eight children. Very interesting > how it ended up as Hurley. From what I read from the Allihies & > CastletownbereParish books, I don't believe she probably used Hurley until > after she emigrated to Fall River. Unfortunately, I do not know much about > her life here in the States or in Beara, and her son my grandfather Timothy > Hanley died when I was but 2. I understand and can follow the logic of > branch names that became permanent surnames but I wonder if it's only Murhil > that underwent spelling variations. I would be interested in learning why, > if it can be reasoned. Similar to branch names? Or, are there other Beara > families that spelled their names in various ways? > > > Julie O'Hanley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, > > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the > > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were > > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any > > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would > > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the > > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and > > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and > > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. > > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from > > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people > > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, > > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. > > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the > > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, > > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now have > > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in > > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the > > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and > > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed in > > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the night > > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly > > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I > > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have > > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their > > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > > y live to regret it later. > > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to > > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. > > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and > > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them > > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been > > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere out > > there still wondering who their ancestors were. > > ------ Riobard. > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > ************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I want to wish all those linking in well and reach out to Riobard to take care of himself. I am reconnecting after some absence from the lively exchanges on this site. Quite recently, I have been able to learn more about my great grandmother Julia Harrington who migrated with her mother Honora Kelley Harrington to Fall River Mass in 1892. I have just learned that her father was Jeremiah Harrington and my suspicion is that he must have passed away and that led to the emigration. So I now know the names of both great great grandparents. And can add that Honora Kelley was born about 1837. Julia Harrington was born in the house that served as the post office in Castletownebere in 1874. I visited and stayed there with my distant cousin Julia Harrington in 1980 (Riobard may recall an exchange of emails on this topic some years back). That distant cousin has since passed away. I am now seeking information on Honora Kelley and Jeremiah Harrington as well as information on the rest of their children. Family anecdotes indicate that Julia's grandfather worked in the Alihies copper mines. My great grandmother married Eugene Sullivan from Bandon who migrated to Fall River from Bandon. Trying to piece together that side of the family tree is quite difficult since there were so many Sullivans in Fall River - over 350 by 1890. For those on the list, the other side of the family tree is composed of McDonough's and Powers who were already in Fall River by 1870 and some even in 1860. I have put together a good part of that family tree - if anyone is interested... Looking forward to your responses. All the best... -- Paul McDonough paul.mcdonough@comcast.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcdonough 770-380-6183 -------------- Original message -------------- From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Back again !! (Riobard O'Dwyer) > 2. Allihies Parish (DSull88075@aol.com) > 3. Re: Back again !! (Jim McCarthy) > 4. Re: Back again !! (Julie Ohanley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:39:05 +0100 > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <002a01c8e1da$09a1d4e0$9fd4869f@ROD> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, Murly. > Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the old records. > They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were looking for one of > them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any of the others. In the > U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would find all of them under the one > name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the length of time it takes to sort them > out, but, as they say: "Patience and prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" > --- if you work hard enough and long enough at something, you will likely > eventually get there. > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from the > Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people from > townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to Mass in > nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of Reenmeen East > and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, even though they are > many miles away from Bantry. > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of work in > tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the Parishes. Where, > say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, or sometimes just the > names of people, were given in the books, I now have the name of a person, > his/her date of birth (from different times in different parishes), the date of > Baptism, the Priest who performed the ceremony, the godparents; the dates of > marriages (locally), Priest, and the witnesses. and even all the data on some of > the marriages performed in places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working > as late into the night as I used to, because I had worked myself into the > ground, and, possibly as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital > recently, but I want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > y live to regret it later. > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to the > Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family of 13. I > found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. She hadn't been > recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and the twelve surviving > children just disappeared from here. None of them died here. The likely place > they would have emigrated to would have been the States, and so there must be > several of their decendants somewhere out there still wondering who their > ancestors were. > ------ Riobard. > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:18:13 EDT > From: DSull88075@aol.com > Subject: [BEARA] Allihies Parish > To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I noted in the Kerry papers that Father Liam Comer has been reassigned to > another parish. Who is the priest now at Allihies? > > Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:32:31 -0400 > From: "Jim McCarthy" > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <016601c8e1fa$88159ad0$6501a8c0@mccarthy> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > You found my grandfather Hurley under "Murphy": Patrick, son of Denis > Murphy/i.e. Murley and Johanna Toomey; 1857. So even in the 'old' days you > were pretty clever. James Hurley McCarthy, [with roots in Allihies, Bere > Island, Fall River] Somerville, MA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, > > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the > > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were > > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any > > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would > > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the > > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and > > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and > > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. > > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from > > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people > > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, > > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. > > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the > > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, > > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now have > > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in > > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the > > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and > > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed in > > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the night > > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly > > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I > > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have > > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their > > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > > y live to regret it later. > > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to > > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. > > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and > > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them > > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been > > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere out > > there still wondering who their ancestors were. > > ------ Riobard. > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:48:24 -0400 > From: "Julie Ohanley" > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <115236E776DE425B8A30E74D785C9031@DaveJuliePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Riobard, you were kind enough to share your research and wonderful books > that revealed my ggrandmother Honora Hurley Hanley had such fantastic > surname recordings with each baptism of her eight children. Very interesting > how it ended up as Hurley. From what I read from the Allihies & > CastletownbereParish books, I don't believe she probably used Hurley until > after she emigrated to Fall River. Unfortunately, I do not know much about > her life here in the States or in Beara, and her son my grandfather Timothy > Hanley died when I was but 2. I understand and can follow the logic of > branch names that became permanent surnames but I wonder if it's only Murhil > that underwent spelling variations. I would be interested in learning why, > if it can be reasoned. Similar to branch names? Or, are there other Beara > families that spelled their names in various ways? > > > Julie O'Hanley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, > > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the > > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were > > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any > > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would > > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the > > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and > > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and > > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. > > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from > > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people > > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, > > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. > > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the > > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, > > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now have > > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in > > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the > > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and > > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed in > > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the night > > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly > > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I > > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have > > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their > > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > > y live to regret it later. > > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to > > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. > > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and > > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them > > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been > > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere out > > there still wondering who their ancestors were. > > ------ Riobard. > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > *************************************

if you find any sullivans related to jeremiah sullivan and helena sullivan circa 1870's let me know.. my father told me in the 50's we had relatives in fall river in the trucking business.my grandfather was born to jeremiah and helena in 1872 in bantry, he came here in 1896 to boston. i am 70 so there is no one left to ask james sullivan jpsullivan38@yahoo.com --- On Thu, 7/10/08, paul.mcdonough@comcast.net <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> wrote: From: paul.mcdonough@comcast.net <paul.mcdonough@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [BEARA] BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Thursday, July 10, 2008, 8:05 AM I want to wish all those linking in well and reach out to Riobard to take care of himself. I am reconnecting after some absence from the lively exchanges on this site. Quite recently, I have been able to learn more about my great grandmother Julia Harrington who migrated with her mother Honora Kelley Harrington to Fall River Mass in 1892. I have just learned that her father was Jeremiah Harrington and my suspicion is that he must have passed away and that led to the emigration. So I now know the names of both great great grandparents. And can add that Honora Kelley was born about 1837. Julia Harrington was born in the house that served as the post office in Castletownebere in 1874. I visited and stayed there with my distant cousin Julia Harrington in 1980 (Riobard may recall an exchange of emails on this topic some years back). That distant cousin has since passed away. I am now seeking information on Honora Kelley and Jeremiah Harrington as well as information on the rest of their children. Family anecdotes indicate that Julia's grandfather worked in the Alihies copper mines. My great grandmother married Eugene Sullivan from Bandon who migrated to Fall River from Bandon. Trying to piece together that side of the family tree is quite difficult since there were so many Sullivans in Fall River - over 350 by 1890. For those on the list, the other side of the family tree is composed of McDonough's and Powers who were already in Fall River by 1870 and some even in 1860. I have put together a good part of that family tree - if anyone is interested... Looking forward to your responses. All the best... -- Paul McDonough paul.mcdonough@comcast.net http://www.linkedin.com/in/pmcdonough 770-380-6183 -------------- Original message -------------- From: beara-request@rootsweb.com > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Back again !! (Riobard O'Dwyer) > 2. Allihies Parish (DSull88075@aol.com) > 3. Re: Back again !! (Jim McCarthy) > 4. Re: Back again !! (Julie Ohanley) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 16:39:05 +0100 > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <002a01c8e1da$09a1d4e0$9fd4869f@ROD> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, Murly. > Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the old records. > They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were looking for one of > them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any of the others. In the > U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would find all of them under the one > name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the length of time it takes to sort them > out, but, as they say: "Patience and prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" > --- if you work hard enough and long enough at something, you will likely > eventually get there. > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from the > Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people from > townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to Mass in > nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of Reenmeen East > and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, even though they are > many miles away from Bantry. > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of work in > tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the Parishes. Where, > say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, or sometimes just the > names of people, were given in the books, I now have the name of a person, > his/her date of birth (from different times in different parishes), the date of > Baptism, the Priest who performed the ceremony, the godparents; the dates of > marriages (locally), Priest, and the witnesses. and even all the data on some of > the marriages performed in places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working > as late into the night as I used to, because I had worked myself into the > ground, and, possibly as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital > recently, but I want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of > what I have now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get > their ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > y live to regret it later. > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to the > Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family of 13. I > found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. She hadn't been > recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and the twelve surviving > children just disappeared from here. None of them died here. The likely place > they would have emigrated to would have been the States, and so there must be > several of their decendants somewhere out there still wondering who their > ancestors were. > ------ Riobard. > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 12:18:13 EDT > From: DSull88075@aol.com > Subject: [BEARA] Allihies Parish > To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I noted in the Kerry papers that Father Liam Comer has been reassigned to > another parish. Who is the priest now at Allihies? > > Teresa Sullivan Lincoln Ne. > > > > **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music > scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! > (www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:32:31 -0400 > From: "Jim McCarthy" > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <016601c8e1fa$88159ad0$6501a8c0@mccarthy> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > You found my grandfather Hurley under "Murphy": Patrick, son of Denis > Murphy/i.e. Murley and Johanna Toomey; 1857. So even in the 'old' days you > were pretty clever. James Hurley McCarthy, [with roots in Allihies, Bere > Island, Fall River] Somerville, MA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, > > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the > > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were > > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any > > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would > > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the > > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and > > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and > > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. > > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from > > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people > > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, > > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. > > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the > > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, > > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now have > > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in > > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the > > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and > > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed in > > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the night > > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly > > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I > > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have > > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their > > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > > y live to regret it later. > > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to > > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. > > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and > > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them > > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been > > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere out > > there still wondering who their ancestors were. > > ------ Riobard. > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 20:48:24 -0400 > From: "Julie Ohanley" > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > To: > Message-ID: <115236E776DE425B8A30E74D785C9031@DaveJuliePC> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Riobard, you were kind enough to share your research and wonderful books > that revealed my ggrandmother Honora Hurley Hanley had such fantastic > surname recordings with each baptism of her eight children. Very interesting > how it ended up as Hurley. From what I read from the Allihies & > CastletownbereParish books, I don't believe she probably used Hurley until > after she emigrated to Fall River. Unfortunately, I do not know much about > her life here in the States or in Beara, and her son my grandfather Timothy > Hanley died when I was but 2. I understand and can follow the logic of > branch names that became permanent surnames but I wonder if it's only Murhil > that underwent spelling variations. I would be interested in learning why, > if it can be reasoned. Similar to branch names? Or, are there other Beara > families that spelled their names in various ways? > > > Julie O'Hanley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > > > Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, > > Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the > > old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were > > looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any > > of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would > > find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at the > > length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and > > prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and > > long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. > > Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from > > the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people > > from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to > > Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of > > Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, > > even though they are many miles away from Bantry. > > Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of > > work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the > > Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of birth, > > or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now have > > the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in > > different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the > > ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and > > the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed in > > places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the night > > as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly > > as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I > > want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have > > now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their > > ancestors done while they have the chance ma! > > y live to regret it later. > > Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to > > the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a family > > of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. > > She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and > > the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them > > died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been > > the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere out > > there still wondering who their ancestors were. > > ------ Riobard. > > > > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > > It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. > > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BEARA list administrator, send an email to > BEARA-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BEARA mailing list, send an email to > BEARA@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BEARA Digest, Vol 3, Issue 238 > ************************************* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Julie, There were several variations of spellings in the surnames of various families, especially in the olden days. It was whatever the Priest wrote down. Sometimes you would get a few variations even within the same family. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Ohanley" <johanley@comcast.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Back again !! > Riobard, you were kind enough to share your research and wonderful books > that revealed my ggrandmother Honora Hurley Hanley had such fantastic > surname recordings with each baptism of her eight children. Very > interesting > how it ended up as Hurley. From what I read from the Allihies & > CastletownbereParish books, I don't believe she probably used Hurley until > after she emigrated to Fall River. Unfortunately, I do not know much about > her life here in the States or in Beara, and her son my grandfather > Timothy > Hanley died when I was but 2. I understand and can follow the logic of > branch names that became permanent surnames but I wonder if it's only > Murhil > that underwent spelling variations. I would be interested in learning > why, > if it can be reasoned. Similar to branch names? Or, are there other > Beara > families that spelled their names in various ways? > > > Julie O'Hanley > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> > To: <Beara-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:39 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Back again !! > > >> Would you like to search for Murhil, Murril, Murhill, Murley, >> Murly. Morley, Murrilly, or Murhilly ? They all are down as such in the >> old records. They all are the same name, but, for instance, if you were >> looking for one of them in your computer, you wouldn't find him under any >> of the others. In the U.S.A., and sometimes here much later, you would >> find all of them under the one name: Hurley. You would be surprised at >> the >> length of time it takes to sort them out, but, as they say: "Patience and >> prayers brought the snails to Jerusalem" --- if you work hard enough and >> long enough at something, you will likely eventually get there. >> Sometimes I would get a letter saying "My grandfather was from >> the Glengarriff Parish". That wouldn't always be correct, because people >> from townlands like Esknafeelna, Dromgarriff, and Derreenathirigy go to >> Mass in nearby Glengarriff Church ----- but they are on the other side of >> Reenmeen East and the Barony Bridge, and therefore in the Bantry Parish, >> even though they are many miles away from Bantry. >> Since taking it "easy" some time ago, I have done a pile of >> work in tidying up loose ends in the genealogy of the people of all the >> Parishes. Where, say, the names of people and the month and year of >> birth, >> or sometimes just the names of people, were given in the books, I now >> have >> the name of a person, his/her date of birth (from different times in >> different parishes), the date of Baptism, the Priest who performed the >> ceremony, the godparents; the dates of marriages (locally), Priest, and >> the witnesses. and even all the data on some of the marriages performed >> in >> places like England and the U.S.A. I am not working as late into the >> night >> as I used to, because I had worked myself into the ground, and, possibly >> as a result, had spent about a week in Bantry Hospital recently, but I >> want to work away while I can, because when I'm gone, alot of what I have >> now will probably be gone with me, and then people who don't get their >> ancestors done while they have the chance ma! >> y live to regret it later. >> Yesterday I came across a father and mother who according to >> the Church Records had a family of 12 children. They actually had a >> family >> of 13. I found the 13th in the Civil Records when she died aged 2 years. >> She hadn't been recorded in the Church Records. But then the parents and >> the twelve surviving children just disappeared from here. None of them >> died here. The likely place they would have emigrated to would have been >> the States, and so there must be several of their decendants somewhere >> out >> there still wondering who their ancestors were. >> ------ Riobard. >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. >> It has removed 1298 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >