Daniel Sullivan, Timothy Sullivan, James Spraggs, Thomas Jones, Samuel Watson, Robert Watson, John Sullivan, John Lavellan Puxley, Thomas Gill, Richard Hodges, Patrick Cronin, Philip Armstrong, Charles Lewis, William Boxwille, Samuel Surry, William Carter, Richard Oborn, Miles Elliott, Alexander Moore, Henry Puxley, Patrick Darmody Thomas Warner, Philip White, James Jackson Ferrall, John Richards Reed, Thomas Gloster, William Gillman, William Baker, William Williams, John Henry, Tobias Switzer, Thomas Johnson, Edward James Grimston, William Samuel Tisdall, Richard Hodges, William Martin Carter, Garret Wellesby Parkinson. ------- Riobard.

This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to the world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers to the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years of research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully there will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that you will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic Games. ----- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: Riobard O'Dwyer To: Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that I research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also includes the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). The address to which you can write is:- Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). Eyeries Village, Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork, Ireland, or you can email me at:- Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of the above Parishes. When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, but with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority of cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were put into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 different Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you weren't aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a family in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in a few different Parishes, because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; or a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from some part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to which one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors were married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had emigrated. Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in Castletownbere, but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go on. Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their ancestors would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off the mark. The vitally necessary basic information to send with your query to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if you have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who he/she married). The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., relatives all over the world, because of all the places in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven seas" and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled the full circle. ----- Riobard.

1850-1859 James White, George Gatt, Patrick Cronin, Rev. Thomas O'Grady, John Nicholson, Christopher George, Thomas Hungerford, Daniel O'Sullivan, Joseph Burchell. James Shaw Kennedy, Patrick Scanlon, Absolom Halmon, Philip Armstrong, Robert Jeffers, Supt. John Reed (of the Mines), Patrick Sullivan, Thomas Millar, Cornelius Lowney, Thomas Warner, James Spraggs, Samuel Surrey, Charles Sidney Carr, Mathew Bagnel Lefebure, Thomas Gill, William Baker, John Moriarty, John Wagner, Thomas Grigg Hastings, John Bailey, Denis Murphy, William Harvey Church, Benjamin Hayes Jagoe, Henry Higgins, Thomas Burchell, William Townsend, John Boyd, James Hazlitt, John Somers, William Henry Martin, Thomas Miller, Alexander Montgomery, Supt. John Richards Reed (of the Mines), Michael McNally, William Boxwille, William Martin Carter, Edward Murphy, Thomas Gill, Henry Pascoe, Thomas Jenkins, Andrew Gilbert Allen, Patrick Darmody, John Sullivan, William Gillman, Thomas Jones, William Williams, Charles Lewis, James Seagrove, Timothy Sullivan, William Nelson. ------ Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1500 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Well happy to see you 'sound' like you wish to get back on the horse! I hope you are!! Interested? Cause I would like to trace my O'Sullivan's back to the Bear. Since I now have the island family well established, you up for a challenge, hehe? Let me know. I may be in your neck of the woods for the Christmas holidays ( a week or two before or after). Hugs to you and yours, Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:21 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to the world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers to the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years of research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully there will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that you will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic Games. ----- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: Riobard O'Dwyer To: Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that I research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also includes the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). The address to which you can write is:- Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). Eyeries Village, Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork, Ireland, or you can email me at:- Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of the above Parishes. When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, but with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority of cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were put into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 different Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you weren't aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a family in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in a few different Parishes! , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; or a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from some part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to which one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors were married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had emigrated. Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in Castletownbere, but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go on. Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their ancestors would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off the mark. The vitally necessary basic information to send with your query to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if you have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who he/she married). The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven seas" and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled the full circle. ----- Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Riobard Gad you were running up and down the village! I wish you many more years of the same. If only Ireland had more dedicated researchers like you! I did try the email for the researcher you sent me re the Bantry/Cork area. Thanks very much-unfortunately -no response. Do you know if she is still around? On a cheerful note, I was in your neck of the woods the last two weeks of July but decided not to bother you as you have lots of enquiries anyway--more to come now? And my family does not seem to be from your area. A couple of '31st cousins' did help me with research at Bantry-getting close now but NOT 100%! Need to find some records specific to the 1860's for that area which seems very difficult. Anywise, glad you are back at it. If the tourists/genealogists bother you too much Just take them on a run through town!! CHEERS-Reg (O'Regan) Volk-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: August 18, 2008 8:21 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to the world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers to the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years of research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully there will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that you will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic Games. ----- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: Riobard O'Dwyer To: Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that I research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also includes the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). The address to which you can write is:- Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). Eyeries Village, Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork, Ireland, or you can email me at:- Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of the above Parishes. When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, but with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority of cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were put into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 different Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you weren't aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a family in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in a few different Parishes! , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; or a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from some part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to which one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors were married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had emigrated. Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in Castletownbere, but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go on. Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their ancestors would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off the mark. The vitally necessary basic information to send with your query to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if you have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who he/she married). The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven seas" and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled the full circle. ----- Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

1842-1849 John Fitzgerald Doherty, George Gatt, Thomas Seely, Rev. Thomas O'Grady, Valentine Gannon, Edward Jeffers, William Webb, John Grimsted/Grimston, William Congdon, William Reed, Richard Puxley, Robert Jeffers, Patrick Sullivan, John Sullivan, Peter Armor, John Willis, Samuel Jagoe, Richard Bennet, John Howell, Richard Seymour, Robert Thomas Everson, Joseph Piper, Mathew Silvester, Anthony Nicholson, Josiah May, Absolom Halmon, Valentine French, Doctor Matthew Bagnell Lefebure, John Willis, John Halmon/Holman, James Faull, William Williams, Thomas Trewella, Edward Morisson, Thomas Hastings, William Far, John Connell, Eugene Green, Joseph Burchell. Humphry Murphy, Timothy Shea, Michael McNally, Silvester Sullivan, William Carter, John Howell, Richard Jagoe, Thomas Hastings, Edward Murphy, John Greenway, Patrick Madden, William Baker, James Rodwell, Thomas Hungerford, Thomas Millar, and William Nelson. ------ Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1500 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

1837-1841 Captain William Reed, Edward Roberts, Denis Long, Patrick Madden, Absolom Holmon, Joseph Martin, James Burke, John Sullivan, Josiah May, Joseph Ennor, Joseph Calloway, Thomas Chivers, Timothy Harrington, James Toukin, David Hanrahan, John Holmon, Captain William Tamblyn, William Carter, Henry Coffin (otherwise Knott), James Tonkin, Edward Lavery, Rev. Thomas O'Grady, Richard Ducket, Dr. M.B. Lefebure, John Bamford Fitzgerald, Robert Stubbs, Valentine Gannon, Edward Jeffers, John Grimsted, George Wade, James Watson, John Howel, Thomas Lane, John Magee, William Webb, Valentine French, Patrick Sullivan, Lieut. William Congdon, William Forsaght. The Church Wardens at the time were John Nicholson and Solomon Ronnds. ------- Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1497 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

1825-1833 Charles Hampton, John Kirkwood, Henry McBride, Joseph Bowden, William Davis, Mark Hollows, Robert Coote, Artillery Sergeant Younie, William Haywood, Stephen Hazelgrove, Captain Martin (of the Mines), J. Dunster, Lieut George Bowdler, Captain John Reed (of the Mines), Robert Kelly, Richard Cordon, Archibald McKenry, Sergeant Calladen, John Nicholson, Captain Mark Reed (of the Mines), Matthew McCue, John Rogers, Alleyn Evanson, William Mealy, John Sullivan. No Baptisms are recorded in 1834, 1835 or 1836. ----- Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1497 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

1815-1824 Fathers:- William Pierce, James Kelly, George Christie, William O'Keefe, William Moffatt, William Richardson, Archibold McKendry, James Moriarty, Stephen Pepper. Thomas Williamson, Simon Tilford, Jonas Hinds, John Davis, Humphry Grey, Archibold Stewart, Robert Turner, Alexander Thomas, James Kilday, William Taylor, Alexander Huston, William Maturin, Mark Harrington, Robert Williamson, William Smart, Richard Martin, Joseph Packer, John Richards Reed (Captain of the Mines), Thomas Bannastor, John Simpson, William Mealy, William Jennings, Useford Wrestlin, Matthew Fletcher, Thomas Williams, John McClelland, Robert Hicks, H. Westling, John Stubbs, James Smyth, Peter Karr, Charles Hampton, William Wills, Henry McBride, Thomas Birch, Captain Martin (Captain of the Mines), Sergeant Wilin, Lieut. Batt, Paul Roach, Joseph Giddings, John Scantleberry, Dr. Power, Charles Walker, George Bowdler, Rev.Henry Cox Harris, Thomas Philips, Mark Reed (Captain of the Mines), Corporal Scott, William Fegus, Alcock Wall, & Thomas Lewis. ------ Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1490 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Dear Riobard, I would like to order your books. I have hit a huge wall trying to find my great grandparents and I believe your research will hold the key. Please let me know how I can order. Regards, Lynn K -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 5:16 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Church of Ireland Baptisms. Having spent several years researching the Baptisms in Berehaven of children of the Church of Ireland Faith, I will now give their fathers' names ;mothers' surnames used not be given ---- but I have alot of them due to researching the families. FROM 1787 to 1799 Robert Simpson, Samuel Blake, James Henery/Henry, Samuel Baylie, Richard Kempdon, Richard Walsh, William Crispin, Joseph Burchel/Burchill, Thomas Grier, William Simpson, Dominic Gillespy, John Bray, Thomas Wales, Hugh McCarthy, Silverter Carolan, William Trenwith, Robert Bishop, Revd. John Beamish. FROM 1800 to and including 1814 James Henry, Samuel Baylie, James Gilgin, Henry Lego, Thomas Burchel, Ellis Huddart, John Morgan, Abraham Morgan, William Marshal, Hugh Morrow, Allen Taylor, Mathias Deleval O'Meara, William Hynes, Thomas Branson, Michael Quail, John Reynolds, Robert Aikin, James Packer, Joseph Packer, Samuel Corkaran, Ellis Studdard, Angus McDonald, John Garvin, Francis Davis, Jame Segar, Joseph Harrison, William Farmer, William Deans, Timothy Casey, Rees Arthur, John Thomas, William W. Mealy, James Martin, Robert Evans, Peter McNabore/Pater McNebo, William Edwards, Robert Daw, William Gourley, James Willis, John McGregor, Humphrey Grey, Robert McCarthy, James Rolleston, James Gibson, Robert Williamson, Thomas Williamson, Archibold Savage, Richard Battals, Recce Arthur, Edward Shannon, James Sweeney, James Ballantine, Thomas Philips, James Kelly, William Jeanes, Frederick Bull, John Porter, Peter Seabourn, James Moriarty, John Midlam, Simon Gelford, Jasper Still, James Black, Archibald M! cKendry, Richard Hulley, Jonas Hinds, John Frost, Robert Salter, George Harrison, Archibold Stewart, Morty Downing, Alliardice Robinson, Jesse Soames, David Perry, Samuel Slaughter, Alexander Huston, Thomas Antwistle, Robert Turner, Joseph Sibly, William Moffit, John Smith and William Savage. ------ Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 5:54 AM

The first time I visited Newgrange there was nothing much, just a parking lot and a ticket office where the tours began. The first time I visited Knowth there was even less. You parked your car, paid a small admission charge and escorted yourself around. No signs, no nothing. There were excavations going on in the biggest mound. Since I'd prepared with guidebooks and such, I still got a lot out of it. In fact, I got more out of it than nowadays, where both sites are strictly controlled and escorted, with lots of information being thrown around. I kind of liked the old style, laissez-faire sites, even though I understand that it is probably better for the sites nowadays. Tara will probably go the same way and power mowers will replace the sheep. Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Volk" <regvolk1@uniserve.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry --FindingSt.Finnian'sWell > Wow! > > Great to hear from such erudite people! > > Please note that I am a Canadian and not an American. > Canadians, even generically, do not like to be referred to as Americans. > > Neither am I a "city or suburban bred folk" I live on 14 horse acres in > the > Country and pick up horse puckies regularly. I am NOT squeamish about > POOP!! > > How is it that New Grange is so magnificently done up but there is nothing > much at Tara?? The outside signs were barely even readable. What power > is > there in undescribed mounds? And believe me, I know the history of the > site > well. > > I realize that Ireland is awash with sites and have no objections to "au > naturel" > As long as it seems respectful. I am NOT sure that about 100 sheep is > that? > > Tara seemed to have NOTHING for security and there was a small hole being > dug in the Hill of Hostages. (Perhaps there was a good reason?) I could > supply a photo. It all seemed very casual to me, a casual Canadian, for a > major historical site!. I did enjoy the protesters at the > entrance-something Canadians are good at!! LOL - and have sent them > supportive messages. > > I met other tourists who were totally lost, trying to find described minor > sites. > Sheep's Head was vey confusing even with maps! > > AND sometimes also very confusing was-were you allowed to go on the castle > site or not? Did you have to seek permission? Some were fenced tight all > the way around. AND I state again, the sites were one of the main reasons > I > came to Ireland along with some genealogy. Signs, if there were any, were > often faded, worn and sometimes hard to read. e.g Lough Gur. Respectful? > In the great beyond, the their residents can decide!? > > It is probably the ONLY time I will ever get to Tara and Ireland and I > would > only SUGGEST a greater measure of RESPECT!! > > CHEERS-from CANADA-Reg Volk > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of William Mulligan Jr. > Sent: August 10, 2008 1:00 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- > FindingSt.Finnian'sWell > > The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as > are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal > interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a > guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is > very knowledgeable. > > When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was > very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the > tour > was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard > to > impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the > site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. > > There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I > guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to > graze, > funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic > sites, > is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow > pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There > were > sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper > mines in Allihies. > > I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the > minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to > protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but > for Ireland pragmatic. > > Bill > > William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. > Professor of History > Graduate Program Coordinator > Murray State University > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA > Office: 1-270-809-6571 > Fax: 1-270-809-6587 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Reg Volk > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding > St.Finnian'sWell > > Thanks, Bill > > Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. > > Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of > Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. > > However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites > are > being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the > average "tourist"! > We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on > Sheep's Head! > > The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as > there > was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the > place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that > someone > had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with > maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough > Gur > was dominated by cows! > > But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and > maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was > delightful! > > CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Bill Gawne > Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. > Finnian'sWell > > Friends of Beara, > > Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where > she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html > > Eventually, she found it. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count > y.html > > Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very > long. Go take a look. I think you'll like them. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Yes. Visitors to Newgrange should be aware that you may not get to the actual sites during the summer as the line ups are long. Very disappointing if you have come from a long ways. Perhaps try booking ahead of time. However, Newgange also has an excellent inside visual tour which will give you the gist of what is going on outside. Who cares about the kind of mowers-show the sites some respect! Reg Volk-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Duffy Sent: August 10, 2008 7:43 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry--FindingSt.Finnian'sWell The first time I visited Newgrange there was nothing much, just a parking lot and a ticket office where the tours began. The first time I visited Knowth there was even less. You parked your car, paid a small admission charge and escorted yourself around. No signs, no nothing. There were excavations going on in the biggest mound. Since I'd prepared with guidebooks and such, I still got a lot out of it. In fact, I got more out of it than nowadays, where both sites are strictly controlled and escorted, with lots of information being thrown around. I kind of liked the old style, laissez-faire sites, even though I understand that it is probably better for the sites nowadays. Tara will probably go the same way and power mowers will replace the sheep. Maggie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Volk" <regvolk1@uniserve.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry --FindingSt.Finnian'sWell > Wow! > > Great to hear from such erudite people! > > Please note that I am a Canadian and not an American. > Canadians, even generically, do not like to be referred to as Americans. > > Neither am I a "city or suburban bred folk" I live on 14 horse acres in > the > Country and pick up horse puckies regularly. I am NOT squeamish about > POOP!! > > How is it that New Grange is so magnificently done up but there is nothing > much at Tara?? The outside signs were barely even readable. What power > is > there in undescribed mounds? And believe me, I know the history of the > site > well. > > I realize that Ireland is awash with sites and have no objections to "au > naturel" > As long as it seems respectful. I am NOT sure that about 100 sheep is > that? > > Tara seemed to have NOTHING for security and there was a small hole being > dug in the Hill of Hostages. (Perhaps there was a good reason?) I could > supply a photo. It all seemed very casual to me, a casual Canadian, for a > major historical site!. I did enjoy the protesters at the > entrance-something Canadians are good at!! LOL - and have sent them > supportive messages. > > I met other tourists who were totally lost, trying to find described minor > sites. > Sheep's Head was vey confusing even with maps! > > AND sometimes also very confusing was-were you allowed to go on the castle > site or not? Did you have to seek permission? Some were fenced tight all > the way around. AND I state again, the sites were one of the main reasons > I > came to Ireland along with some genealogy. Signs, if there were any, were > often faded, worn and sometimes hard to read. e.g Lough Gur. Respectful? > In the great beyond, the their residents can decide!? > > It is probably the ONLY time I will ever get to Tara and Ireland and I > would > only SUGGEST a greater measure of RESPECT!! > > CHEERS-from CANADA-Reg Volk > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of William Mulligan Jr. > Sent: August 10, 2008 1:00 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- > FindingSt.Finnian'sWell > > The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as > are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal > interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a > guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is > very knowledgeable. > > When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was > very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the > tour > was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard > to > impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the > site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. > > There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I > guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to > graze, > funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic > sites, > is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow > pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There > were > sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper > mines in Allihies. > > I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the > minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to > protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but > for Ireland pragmatic. > > Bill > > William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. > Professor of History > Graduate Program Coordinator > Murray State University > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA > Office: 1-270-809-6571 > Fax: 1-270-809-6587 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Reg Volk > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding > St.Finnian'sWell > > Thanks, Bill > > Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. > > Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of > Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. > > However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites > are > being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the > average "tourist"! > We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on > Sheep's Head! > > The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as > there > was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the > place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that > someone > had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with > maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough > Gur > was dominated by cows! > > But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and > maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was > delightful! > > CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Bill Gawne > Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. > Finnian'sWell > > Friends of Beara, > > Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where > she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html > > Eventually, she found it. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count > y.html > > Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very > long. Go take a look. I think you'll like them. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suspect you're getting tripped up on "parish". In Griffith's, Adrigole would be in the Civil Parish of Kilkaskan. In the RC Diocese of Kerry, the Parish would be Adrigole. It's all about the context. John On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Kevin MacKinnon <kevmac90@msn.com> wrote: > I am definitely looking for Adrigole, within Adrigole parish. When I > search > by place name, I get what I believe is another Adrigole - but also in Cork. > Anyone know? > > > >From: "John Caffrey" <jcbeara@gmail.com> > >Reply-To: beara@rootsweb.com > >To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths > >Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:33:48 -0400 > > > >If it is just the townland you are interested in, then all you need do is > >enter Adrigole in the field asking for the "place-name". > > > >To Riobard's point though, Adrigole is also a parish with many townlands. > >As > >a brief aside, I had to laugh when I looked up Coolieragh (in the Adrigole > >parish). There were 14 individuals, 11 of which were Sullivan, and 5 of > >them > >were Timothy. It gives great appreciation for all the work Riobard has > >done, > >sorting these families out. > > > >This might help if you are looking for a different townland, but in the > >Adrigole area -> http://www.seanruad.com/ > > > >John > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > >Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon > >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:22 PM > >To: beara@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [BEARA] Griffiths > > > >Anyone know how I would search the townland of Adrigole on Griffith's? Is > >it > > > >even available? Thx > > > > > >http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_place_search_form.php > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in > >the subject and the body of the message > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 > >5:54 AM > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry, too, Bill! I think it was "Margaret" who used some of the terms I mentioned. Her email arrived at the same time, so I referred to BOTH of them With no FOOTNOTES or a BIBLIOGRAPHY!! Yiii!! Reg-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William Mulligan Jr. Sent: August 10, 2008 4:28 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry--FindingSt.Finnian'sWell I do not see where I referred to you as an American even generically; really very sorry if that offends you in some way, it was not my intention --or as city or suburban bred. I guess I am both of those being from the NYC suburbs and having attended high school in Manhattan. I have many Canadian friends. I'll take erudite as a compliment, although I have doubts as to how it was meant. The digging is an archaeological excavation, as I understand it--standard thing to do. Archeological digs are more interesting for visitors if they are active, but again funding plays a role. When I was there, there were staff and I talked with them -- something I recommend when visiting historic sites, even if there is no tour. There is a great deal going on in the vicinity of Tara due to the ongoing and, frankly, destructive motorway construction. Hence, the protesters--my students saw them outside the Oireachtas the day before we went to Tara. It added quite a bit to their experience. There are actually very few "outside signs" at New Grange as I recall, but each group is part of a guided tour there--that is not the case at Tara. Maybe it should be. The visitor centre at Bru na Boine is also much more developed and does not rely as much on a video to convey information. That is probably why the one experience seemed better than the other did and it is a very legitimate criticism. Could OPW do better? YES. I am not a big fan of OPW. There interpretation is much too uneven. I am really sorry if I seemed to be unsympathetic to your concerns, that was not my intention. I did not want to send a long, involved post. Whether or not to put up signs is an issue debated in the museum/historic site community. Signs vs. people is the main issue. People interacting with visitors are best, but very expensive vs. signs. I guess my students and I had the advantage of a good tour guide and, as some of them said--and I add this immodestly--they had me. CHEERS from West Kentucky. Bill Mulligan William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Graduate Program Coordinator Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Office: 1-270-809-6571 Fax: 1-270-809-6587 -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reg Volk Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 5:30 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry --FindingSt.Finnian'sWell Wow! Great to hear from such erudite people! Please note that I am a Canadian and not an American. Canadians, even generically, do not like to be referred to as Americans. Neither am I a "city or suburban bred folk" I live on 14 horse acres in the Country and pick up horse puckies regularly. I am NOT squeamish about POOP!! How is it that New Grange is so magnificently done up but there is nothing much at Tara?? The outside signs were barely even readable. What power is there in undescribed mounds? And believe me, I know the history of the site well. I realize that Ireland is awash with sites and have no objections to "au naturel" As long as it seems respectful. I am NOT sure that about 100 sheep is that? Tara seemed to have NOTHING for security and there was a small hole being dug in the Hill of Hostages. (Perhaps there was a good reason?) I could supply a photo. It all seemed very casual to me, a casual Canadian, for a major historical site!. I did enjoy the protesters at the entrance-something Canadians are good at!! LOL - and have sent them supportive messages. I met other tourists who were totally lost, trying to find described minor sites. Sheep's Head was vey confusing even with maps! AND sometimes also very confusing was-were you allowed to go on the castle site or not? Did you have to seek permission? Some were fenced tight all the way around. AND I state again, the sites were one of the main reasons I came to Ireland along with some genealogy. Signs, if there were any, were often faded, worn and sometimes hard to read. e.g Lough Gur. Respectful? In the great beyond, the their residents can decide!? It is probably the ONLY time I will ever get to Tara and Ireland and I would only SUGGEST a greater measure of RESPECT!! CHEERS-from CANADA-Reg Volk -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William Mulligan Jr. Sent: August 10, 2008 1:00 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- FindingSt.Finnian'sWell The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is very knowledgeable. When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the tour was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard to impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to graze, funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic sites, is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There were sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper mines in Allihies. I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but for Ireland pragmatic. Bill William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Graduate Program Coordinator Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Office: 1-270-809-6571 Fax: 1-270-809-6587 -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reg Volk Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St.Finnian'sWell Thanks, Bill Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites are being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the average "tourist"! We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on Sheep's Head! The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as there was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that someone had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough Gur was dominated by cows! But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was delightful! CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gawne Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. Finnian'sWell Friends of Beara, Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html Eventually, she found it. http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count y.html Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very long. Go take a look. I think you'll like them. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I do not see where I referred to you as an American even generically; really very sorry if that offends you in some way, it was not my intention --or as city or suburban bred. I guess I am both of those being from the NYC suburbs and having attended high school in Manhattan. I have many Canadian friends. I'll take erudite as a compliment, although I have doubts as to how it was meant. The digging is an archaeological excavation, as I understand it--standard thing to do. Archeological digs are more interesting for visitors if they are active, but again funding plays a role. When I was there, there were staff and I talked with them -- something I recommend when visiting historic sites, even if there is no tour. There is a great deal going on in the vicinity of Tara due to the ongoing and, frankly, destructive motorway construction. Hence, the protesters--my students saw them outside the Oireachtas the day before we went to Tara. It added quite a bit to their experience. There are actually very few "outside signs" at New Grange as I recall, but each group is part of a guided tour there--that is not the case at Tara. Maybe it should be. The visitor centre at Bru na Boine is also much more developed and does not rely as much on a video to convey information. That is probably why the one experience seemed better than the other did and it is a very legitimate criticism. Could OPW do better? YES. I am not a big fan of OPW. There interpretation is much too uneven. I am really sorry if I seemed to be unsympathetic to your concerns, that was not my intention. I did not want to send a long, involved post. Whether or not to put up signs is an issue debated in the museum/historic site community. Signs vs. people is the main issue. People interacting with visitors are best, but very expensive vs. signs. I guess my students and I had the advantage of a good tour guide and, as some of them said--and I add this immodestly--they had me. CHEERS from West Kentucky. Bill Mulligan William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Graduate Program Coordinator Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Office: 1-270-809-6571 Fax: 1-270-809-6587 -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reg Volk Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 5:30 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry --FindingSt.Finnian'sWell Wow! Great to hear from such erudite people! Please note that I am a Canadian and not an American. Canadians, even generically, do not like to be referred to as Americans. Neither am I a "city or suburban bred folk" I live on 14 horse acres in the Country and pick up horse puckies regularly. I am NOT squeamish about POOP!! How is it that New Grange is so magnificently done up but there is nothing much at Tara?? The outside signs were barely even readable. What power is there in undescribed mounds? And believe me, I know the history of the site well. I realize that Ireland is awash with sites and have no objections to "au naturel" As long as it seems respectful. I am NOT sure that about 100 sheep is that? Tara seemed to have NOTHING for security and there was a small hole being dug in the Hill of Hostages. (Perhaps there was a good reason?) I could supply a photo. It all seemed very casual to me, a casual Canadian, for a major historical site!. I did enjoy the protesters at the entrance-something Canadians are good at!! LOL - and have sent them supportive messages. I met other tourists who were totally lost, trying to find described minor sites. Sheep's Head was vey confusing even with maps! AND sometimes also very confusing was-were you allowed to go on the castle site or not? Did you have to seek permission? Some were fenced tight all the way around. AND I state again, the sites were one of the main reasons I came to Ireland along with some genealogy. Signs, if there were any, were often faded, worn and sometimes hard to read. e.g Lough Gur. Respectful? In the great beyond, the their residents can decide!? It is probably the ONLY time I will ever get to Tara and Ireland and I would only SUGGEST a greater measure of RESPECT!! CHEERS-from CANADA-Reg Volk -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William Mulligan Jr. Sent: August 10, 2008 1:00 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- FindingSt.Finnian'sWell The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is very knowledgeable. When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the tour was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard to impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to graze, funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic sites, is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There were sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper mines in Allihies. I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but for Ireland pragmatic. Bill William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Graduate Program Coordinator Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Office: 1-270-809-6571 Fax: 1-270-809-6587 -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reg Volk Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St.Finnian'sWell Thanks, Bill Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites are being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the average "tourist"! We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on Sheep's Head! The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as there was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that someone had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough Gur was dominated by cows! But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was delightful! CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gawne Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. Finnian'sWell Friends of Beara, Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html Eventually, she found it. http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count y.html Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very long. Go take a look. 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To all of BEARA-L   How about that PADRAIG HARRINGTON ?   THREE CHEERS OR MANY MORE !!!!!   Bill Sullivan

I am definitely looking for Adrigole, within Adrigole parish. When I search by place name, I get what I believe is another Adrigole - but also in Cork. Anyone know? >From: "John Caffrey" <jcbeara@gmail.com> >Reply-To: beara@rootsweb.com >To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [BEARA] Griffiths >Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 09:33:48 -0400 > >If it is just the townland you are interested in, then all you need do is >enter Adrigole in the field asking for the "place-name". > >To Riobard's point though, Adrigole is also a parish with many townlands. >As >a brief aside, I had to laugh when I looked up Coolieragh (in the Adrigole >parish). There were 14 individuals, 11 of which were Sullivan, and 5 of >them >were Timothy. It gives great appreciation for all the work Riobard has >done, >sorting these families out. > >This might help if you are looking for a different townland, but in the >Adrigole area -> http://www.seanruad.com/ > >John > >-----Original Message----- >From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >Behalf Of Kevin MacKinnon >Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 6:22 PM >To: beara@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BEARA] Griffiths > >Anyone know how I would search the townland of Adrigole on Griffith's? Is >it > >even available? Thx > > >http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_place_search_form.php > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in >the subject and the body of the message > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.12/1597 - Release Date: 8/7/2008 >5:54 AM > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message

I agree with Bill Mulligan. Real historical sites aren't like Disneyland, they're real, they're alive. Indeed, cows and sheep may have been grazing on the old Irish sites even in their historical heyday. In the great cathedrals and churches you might find that services are being conducted, just like always. In addition, I think the grazing sheep on Tara are more than just pragmatic. They're a metaphor for the passage of time, as are the cows on other sites. Who knows, one day the great historical sites of today may be pastures for cows. In 18th and 19th century Rome cows grazed at the Colosseum and the Forum. Not practical with today's traffic perhaps, but they added an element of elegy to the scene of fallen grandeur. City and suburban bred folks are sometimes far too squamish about animal byproducts. It's one of the reasons (the other being climate) why Ireland is so green. Just wear appropriate shoes. Maggie Duffy (abd, NYU, History of Art) NY, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Mulligan Jr." <billmulligan@murray-ky.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- FindingSt.Finnian'sWell > The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as > are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal > interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a > guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is > very knowledgeable. > > When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was > very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the > tour > was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard > to > impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the > site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. > > There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I > guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to > graze, > funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic > sites, > is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow > pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There > were > sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper > mines in Allihies. > > I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the > minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to > protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but > for Ireland pragmatic. > > Bill > > William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. > Professor of History > Graduate Program Coordinator > Murray State University > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA > Office: 1-270-809-6571 > Fax: 1-270-809-6587 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Reg Volk > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding > St.Finnian'sWell > > Thanks, Bill > > Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. > > Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of > Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. > > However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites > are > being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the > average "tourist"! > We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on > Sheep's Head! > > The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as > there > was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the > place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that > someone > had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with > maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough > Gur > was dominated by cows! > > But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and > maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was > delightful! > > CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Bill Gawne > Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. > Finnian'sWell > > Friends of Beara, > > Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where > she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html > > Eventually, she found it. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count > y.html > > Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very > long. Go take a look. I think you'll like them. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

AND...I have NEVER been to Disneyland, or for that matter Disneyworld, so would have NO basis for comparison. Reg Volk-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Margaret Duffy Sent: August 10, 2008 1:19 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry --FindingSt.Finnian'sWell I agree with Bill Mulligan. Real historical sites aren't like Disneyland, they're real, they're alive. Indeed, cows and sheep may have been grazing on the old Irish sites even in their historical heyday. In the great cathedrals and churches you might find that services are being conducted, just like always. In addition, I think the grazing sheep on Tara are more than just pragmatic. They're a metaphor for the passage of time, as are the cows on other sites. Who knows, one day the great historical sites of today may be pastures for cows. In 18th and 19th century Rome cows grazed at the Colosseum and the Forum. Not practical with today's traffic perhaps, but they added an element of elegy to the scene of fallen grandeur. City and suburban bred folks are sometimes far too squamish about animal byproducts. It's one of the reasons (the other being climate) why Ireland is so green. Just wear appropriate shoes. Maggie Duffy (abd, NYU, History of Art) NY, NY ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Mulligan Jr." <billmulligan@murray-ky.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- FindingSt.Finnian'sWell > The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as > are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal > interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a > guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is > very knowledgeable. > > When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was > very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the > tour > was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard > to > impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the > site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. > > There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I > guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to > graze, > funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic > sites, > is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow > pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There > were > sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper > mines in Allihies. > > I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the > minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to > protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but > for Ireland pragmatic. > > Bill > > William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. > Professor of History > Graduate Program Coordinator > Murray State University > Murray KY 42071-3341 USA > Office: 1-270-809-6571 > Fax: 1-270-809-6587 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Reg Volk > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding > St.Finnian'sWell > > Thanks, Bill > > Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. > > Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of > Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. > > However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites > are > being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the > average "tourist"! > We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on > Sheep's Head! > > The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as > there > was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the > place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that > someone > had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with > maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough > Gur > was dominated by cows! > > But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and > maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was > delightful! > > CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Bill Gawne > Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. > Finnian'sWell > > Friends of Beara, > > Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where > she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html > > Eventually, she found it. > > http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count > y.html > > Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very > long. Go take a look. I think you'll like them. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow! Great to hear from such erudite people! Please note that I am a Canadian and not an American. Canadians, even generically, do not like to be referred to as Americans. Neither am I a "city or suburban bred folk" I live on 14 horse acres in the Country and pick up horse puckies regularly. I am NOT squeamish about POOP!! How is it that New Grange is so magnificently done up but there is nothing much at Tara?? The outside signs were barely even readable. What power is there in undescribed mounds? And believe me, I know the history of the site well. I realize that Ireland is awash with sites and have no objections to "au naturel" As long as it seems respectful. I am NOT sure that about 100 sheep is that? Tara seemed to have NOTHING for security and there was a small hole being dug in the Hill of Hostages. (Perhaps there was a good reason?) I could supply a photo. It all seemed very casual to me, a casual Canadian, for a major historical site!. I did enjoy the protesters at the entrance-something Canadians are good at!! LOL - and have sent them supportive messages. I met other tourists who were totally lost, trying to find described minor sites. Sheep's Head was vey confusing even with maps! AND sometimes also very confusing was-were you allowed to go on the castle site or not? Did you have to seek permission? Some were fenced tight all the way around. AND I state again, the sites were one of the main reasons I came to Ireland along with some genealogy. Signs, if there were any, were often faded, worn and sometimes hard to read. e.g Lough Gur. Respectful? In the great beyond, the their residents can decide!? It is probably the ONLY time I will ever get to Tara and Ireland and I would only SUGGEST a greater measure of RESPECT!! CHEERS-from CANADA-Reg Volk -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of William Mulligan Jr. Sent: August 10, 2008 1:00 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- FindingSt.Finnian'sWell The Hill of Tara is in the care of the Office of Public Works, as are many of Ireland's important historic sites. The principal interpretation there is the video in the visitors' centre and there is a guided tour, which may have to scheduled or requested. But the staff is very knowledgeable. When I was there in May, with a group of students from the US, I was very impressed with the quality of the video and the guide who gave the tour was first rate. Since this is an area I used to teach, I am pretty hard to impress--and I was impressed. I was also quite moved by the power of the site, one I had not visited previously. Most of my students were too. There are sheep and the inevitable sheep by-products at Tara. I guess I see that as pragmatic--grass has to kept down, sheep need to graze, funds need to be found, etc. That, grazing animals on large historic sites, is not uncommon in Ireland. St. James Monastery in Cashel is in a cow pasture, for example, you do need to be careful where you step. There were sheep and goats I recall when Riobard and I visited the site of the copper mines in Allihies. I am reminded of a remark by Sile de Valera when she was the minister responsible for Heritage that the government could not afford to protect every fourteenth-century ruin. Hard to grasp as an American, but for Ireland pragmatic. Bill William H. Mulligan, Jr., Ph.D. Professor of History Graduate Program Coordinator Murray State University Murray KY 42071-3341 USA Office: 1-270-809-6571 Fax: 1-270-809-6587 -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Reg Volk Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:45 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St.Finnian'sWell Thanks, Bill Delightful hunt/pictures, Sue. Have just returned from Southern Ireland. Very much enjoyed the Ring of Beara and Dingle peninsula. Would love to go back again. However, I do wonder how carefully some of these great historical sites are being protected and /or signed? They are often very hard to find for the average "tourist"! We hiked for hours but never found tombsites near Finn McCool's seat on Sheep's Head! The Hill of Tara was NOT hard to find but was a big disappointment as there was no outside signage to explain much and sheep droppings all over the place! Not to mention sheep (natural maintenance?) and the fact that someone had been digging? in the Hill of the Hostages. Who is charged with maintenance/security at these sites? The Mesolithic stone ring at Lough Gur was dominated by cows! But I did get to see what I wanted and met some 31st cousins in Bantry and maybe THE O'Regan home site I was looking for!! AND the weather was delightful! CHEERS-Reg Volk-Canada -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gawne Sent: August 8, 2008 6:50 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Latest Ring of Beara blog entry -- Finding St. Finnian'sWell Friends of Beara, Sue Iles has another post in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog, where she goes looking for St. Finnian's Well. http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/hunting-for-holy-well.html Eventually, she found it. http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/08/stfinnians-well-castletownbere-count y.html Both articles have lovely pictures. They're neither of them very long. Go take a look. I think you'll like them. -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message