My grandmother Marianne O'Sullivan Sheehan had a brother, Eugene (Gene) O'Sullivan. He was born in April of 1872. He married Johanna (Andy) Sullivan (Kilaugh). More to follow if this interests you. Barbara Neus<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here.<BR> (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)</HTML>

Hi, Val, I don't know Irish geography well, but do be suspicious that the place name was taken down correctly. I have an ancestor relation who appeared in the 1861 English census as having been born in the Irish town of "Kibbercen". There is no such town, but there is one called Skibbereen. I later found evidence to support that he indeed was born in or near Skibbereen. Perhaps someone took notes in the field, then later transcribed them incorrectly onto the final census sheet. Who knows? Of course, I have not seen the record you cite, but I do know penmanship in census records varies wildly. An 'e' can sometimes look like an 'i', especially if there is a stray mark near it that resembles a proper dot. Best wishes, Kevin in MO, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Messer" <valmess@b130.aone.net.au> To: <BEARA@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2008 10:38 PM Subject: [BEARA] Kinmare or Kenmare > Hi from Qld., Australia, > > In England Census records of 1851 and 1861 the place of birth for my > gggrandmother, Ellen Morrissey nee Sullivan, appears to be KINMARE. > However, when I googled for some information about the place I was asked > 'Do > you mean KENMARE?' > > The Census record definitely shows KINMARE as the dot is clearly above the > letter 'i.' Or is it a case of confusion in hearing the Irish accent? > > Could someone please enlighten me - Which should it be? Or are they two > separate places in Co Kerry? > > Regards > Val. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.7/1628 - Release Date: 22.08.2008 > 18:32 > > >

I would like to get in touch with anyone having ancestors who lived in Leadville, Lake county, Colorado. Especially with the surnames Sullivan or Harrington. I need to try backing up through other routes towards my Mary Sullivan. Trying to root her out in other ways have met with little success.   ~~ C Sullivan

Have been reading about all looking for Sullivans. Could resist any more, even if I have almost nothing concrete to start with. My grandmother Mary Ann Murphy had a brother Patriack Daniel Murphy, married to Mary Ann Sullivan in St Patrick's Town of Lebanon Waupaca Co Wisconsin , January 1887, and later lived in Outagamie County Wi She had a sister Anna Sullivan who was a teacher of the deaf in this part of Wisconsin. Mary Ann died leaving 6 childdren, and Anna helped take over the raising of these children, the youngest 2 yrs old. Mary Ann and Anna were daughters of Jeremy Timothy Sullivan and Mary Ellen Harrington. Does this fit into anyone else's tree? Kathleen Devine Curry kathymdc@athenet.net

John Eccles to Mary Ann O'Keeffe; Frederick Theodore Caurter to Kate Eccles; Samuel Vickery to Sarah Anne Vickery; William McKenzie to Jane Morris Chute; William Ward to Kate Mathews; Joseph Moore to Avisis Skuse; Jacob Ruttle to Kate Moriarty; William Harman to Eliza Skuse; William Bevin to Mary Levis; Robert William Delacour to Frances Dorothy White; George Jennings to Fanny Skuse; Jeremiah Sullivan to Diana Levis; Charles W. Bowlby to Fanny S.A.K. White; John Sullivan to Elizabeth Levis; William Mills to Louisa Hurly; Charles W.H. Bremer to Mae Summers Beacham; Charles Sullivan to Mary Bevan; Michael Sullivan to Jennie Bevan; John NcDougall Haskard to Alicia Isabella Hutchins; George Bevin to Sarah Bevan; Robert Hall to May Bannon Stocken; William Warner to Esther Mary Warner; George Henry Gibson to Lily Brooks; Richard Emmanuel Harman to Martha Jane Skuce; Henry William Ward to Mary Margaret Hadnett; Joseph Warner to Frances Hester Shannon; Paul Kingston to Genevia Catherine Augusta Skuce; William Stanley Roe to Aubrey Inis Haydon Dunne; Patrick Nettles Allen to June Margaret Phyllis Harbord; Kenneth William Morden Harbord to Oonagh Denise Wray. They were from Cork City, Glengarriff Castle, Tedagh (Parish of Durrus), Coomhola, Bantry, London, Whiddy Island, Glasgow, Caheragh, Ballydehob, Whitegate, Bandon, and many parts of Glengarriff. Among the men: a Gentleman, a Farmer & Teacher, a Lieut. in the Connaught Rangers, a Carpenter, a Hotel Keeper, an Engineer, a Coachman, a Sub-Constable R.I.C., a Chauffeur, a Gardiner, a Merchant, a Rubber Planter, a Fruit Farmer, and a Surgeon. Among the women: a School Mistress, a Lady, a Dressmaker, and a Surgeon. ------- Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1525 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Dear Riobard: May I have your opinion on this issue? I have a found a son born to Eugene Sullivan in Barnagearagh in March 1881 and a Eugene Sullivan listed as a Blacksmith in Glengariff in Slatter's Directory 1881. Are these Eugene's likely to be two different people or could they be the same? Thanks. Marge

Hi Margaret, Are you related to any of the Sullivans in Taunton, Mass. or Powers? My gt grandmother was Mary Fitzgerald Sullivan of Taunton and was the mother of my grandmother Katherine Sullivan Connolly of Warren Pennsylvaniaalso of many in Taunton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret O'Neill" <mtmm@comcast.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: [BEARA] Meavaun > Hello all, My grandmother, Maggie Powers, of Rossmacowen used to love to > eat dried seaweed. She called it meavaun. I looked up on the internet > and found the term dulse. Dulse is a course reddish seaweed. The old > Irish "duilesc", a edible red alga. > I wondered if any of you have heard of meavaun? Can one purchase dulse > these days? I imagine my grandmother used meavaun, as a > multi-vitamin/mineral tab?? > Looking forward to reading responses. Thank you. > Margaret O'Neill > East Taunton, Mass. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

hi margaret, --- On Fri, 8/22/08, LT REED <mreed99439@verizon.net> wrote: From: LT REED <mreed99439@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Meavaun To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, August 22, 2008, 6:29 PM Hi Margaret,dulse is a product of nova socia and can be bought in most irish specialty stores. jim sullivan falmouth mass Are you related to any of the Sullivans in Taunton, Mass. or Powers? My gt grandmother was Mary Fitzgerald Sullivan of Taunton and was the mother of my grandmother Katherine Sullivan Connolly of Warren Pennsylvaniaalso of many in Taunton. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret O'Neill" <mtmm@comcast.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:11 AM Subject: [BEARA] Meavaun > Hello all, My grandmother, Maggie Powers, of Rossmacowen used to love to > eat dried seaweed. She called it meavaun. I looked up on the internet > and found the term dulse. Dulse is a course reddish seaweed. The old > Irish "duilesc", a edible red alga. > I wondered if any of you have heard of meavaun? Can one purchase dulse > these days? I imagine my grandmother used meavaun, as a > multi-vitamin/mineral tab?? > Looking forward to reading responses. Thank you. > Margaret O'Neill > East Taunton, Mass. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Geraldine, thank you very much for eliminating Victoria from my searches. Judith ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Slattery" <jslattery@bigpond.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey > Hi Judith, > I have checked the BDM's for Victoria, Australia, and can't find anything > that fits those names and dates, so that's one less for you to have to > try. > Sorry it wasn't more successful. > > Geraldine Slattery. > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Judith Casey > Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 9:47 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey > > Hello everybody, > > I am still trying to trace: > > 1. Patsy (Patrick) Casey born March 1867, Filane, Castletownbere. He was > the > > son of Mick Casey (Filane) and Julia (nee O'Sullivan (Keagh) ) > > He was the brother of my grandfather, Michael Casey (Filane) born May > 1881. > > My Uncle in Cork says he went to Australia, never married, ploughed the > land > > and died there. Riobard's book says he went to Butte, Montana. > > 2. Mary Patricia Casey, born March 1919, Filane Castletownbere. > > She was the daughter of Michael Casey & Agnes (nee Hanley). She died as a > child, but I have not been able to find any record of her birth or death. > > I have had no luck whatsoever, so if anybody could please help me I would > be > > extremely grateful. > > Judith Casey > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 > 8:12 AM > >

I'm gonna make that challenge then, but right now must wait as life has interceded with another hurdle to jump at the moment. I'll be less cryptic when I have more than a quick moment to converse on the subject (Roger's father John O'Sullivan linage back possibly to the Beare himself). Be back in a little over a week, til then, passing out your books from the Island, :) Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 2:38 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! Dear Lisa, I'm up for any challenge as long as I know what I am being challenged about. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > Well happy to see you 'sound' like you wish to get back on the horse! I > hope you are!! Interested? Cause I would like to trace my O'Sullivan's > back to the Bear. Since I now have the island family well established, > you > up for a challenge, hehe? > > Let me know. I may be in your neck of the woods for the Christmas > holidays > ( a week or two before or after). > > Hugs to you and yours, > > Lisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:21 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > > This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to > the > world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers > to > the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years > of > research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully > there > will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that > you > will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to > trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. > Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village > the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, > thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic > Games. > ----- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Riobard O'Dwyer > To: Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. > > > Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries > over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that > I > research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork > (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including > DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish > (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also > includes > the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between > Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). > The address to which you can write is:- > Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). > Eyeries Village, > Beara Peninsula, > Co. Cork, > Ireland, > or you can email me at:- > Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of > the above Parishes. > When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are > certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you > are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the > olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, > but > with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority > of > cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were > put > into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 > different > Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you > weren't > aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon > Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that > ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the > Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a > family > in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in > a > few different Parishes! > , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to > townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; > or > a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. > Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically > impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from > some > part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into > Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my > greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to > which > one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". > At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors > were > married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out > that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people > think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the > parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate > that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was > actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had > emigrated. > Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in > Castletownbere, > but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been > born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. > Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from > marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming > to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior > research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform > miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go > on. > Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their > ancestors > would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off > the > mark. > The vitally necessary basic information to send with your > query > to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the > ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the > mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if > you > have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date > of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- > in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to > what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what > part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, > and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially > if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who > he/she married). > The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory > information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, > etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry > is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their > ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, > unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if > they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their > ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional > joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually > contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family > reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are > becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to > travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., > relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! > aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven > seas" > and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be > thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would > make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula > --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled > the > full circle. > ----- > Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1503 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. 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Hi Riobard- I have seen many emails to an from you regarding Irish Ancestry and hoping that you might be able to point me in the right direction as well.? My family surname is LYONS.? My?ggggrandfather was Jeremiah Lyons, his wife's name was Margarett.? They had at least 1 son that I am aware of, my ggggrandfather, William, born @1812 in Cork (not sure whether that's county or city).? William married Roseanna Armshaw, born @1812 in Tipperary.? William was Catholic and a?mason by trade.? They emigrated to America @ sometime before 1846 as all 6 children were born in NY.??My research has proven that they were somewhere in NY, I'm guessing NYC, and moved to New London, Ct. as I've found them on the census of 1850 but find them in 1860 on the 1860 Census in Sag Harbor, NY.? My family lives in that area today!? I travelled to Ireland in 2006 and felt so connected yet unable to find the ancestral home.?That being my objective - perhaps you could recommend some resources in Cork that I might p! ursue.? Once I have that...I will return to Ireland...in hopes of discovering other brothers and sisters?to William. Thanks for listening! Pam Greenport, LI, ?New York -----Original Message----- From: Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 12:08 pm Subject: [BEARA] Phone first. Sometimes I am not at home when people call to my door looking for help in tracing their ancestors. For instance, yesterday somebody in Castletownbere sent people out 5 miles to Eyeries to me to help them ----- but it was a wasted journey, as I happened to be about 100 miles away in Cork City at the time. It is better to phone (74015) from any part of Beara, Co. Cork South-West, first. Even if I'm not at home, a message can be left (plus email, if possible). If calling from any part of Ireland outside of the Bantry/Beara areas, the phone is (027)74015. If wanting to get in touch with me from the U.S.A., etc., it would be easier first to email me. If writing, don't forget to enclose your email. I suppose I'm getting a bit lazy with old age !! ----- Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1512 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

G Whittington: She sent it to the entire Beara list. Since she included the original email she was replying to, it was obvious she was letting us all know that she got Geraldine Slattery's email, and was thanking her. Susan On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:26 AM, geraldine whittington <gwhittington@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Your thank you reached the wrong Geraldine! > I am G Whittington not Slattery. > >> From: judith@judithcasey.plus.com >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:10:31 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey >> >> Hello Geraldine, >> thank you very much for eliminating Victoria from my searches. >> Judith >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Slattery" <jslattery@bigpond.com> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:43 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey >> >> >> > Hi Judith, >> > I have checked the BDM's for Victoria, Australia, and can't find anything >> > that fits those names and dates, so that's one less for you to have to >> > try. >> > Sorry it wasn't more successful. >> > >> > Geraldine Slattery. >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >> > Behalf Of Judith Casey >> > Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 9:47 PM >> > To: beara@rootsweb.com >> > Subject: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey >> > >> > Hello everybody, >> > >> > I am still trying to trace: >> > >> > 1. Patsy (Patrick) Casey born March 1867, Filane, Castletownbere. He was >> > the >> > >> > son of Mick Casey (Filane) and Julia (nee O'Sullivan (Keagh) ) >> > >> > He was the brother of my grandfather, Michael Casey (Filane) born May >> > 1881. >> > >> > My Uncle in Cork says he went to Australia, never married, ploughed the >> > land >> > >> > and died there. Riobard's book says he went to Butte, Montana. >> > >> > 2. Mary Patricia Casey, born March 1919, Filane Castletownbere. >> > >> > She was the daughter of Michael Casey & Agnes (nee Hanley). She died as a >> > child, but I have not been able to find any record of her birth or death. >> > >> > I have had no luck whatsoever, so if anybody could please help me I would >> > be >> > >> > extremely grateful. >> > >> > Judith Casey >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> > in >> > the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > No virus found in this incoming message. >> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 >> > 8:12 AM >> > >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows(R). > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Your thank you reached the wrong Geraldine! I am G Whittington not Slattery. > From: judith@judithcasey.plus.com > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:10:31 +0100 > Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey > > Hello Geraldine, > thank you very much for eliminating Victoria from my searches. > Judith > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Slattery" <jslattery@bigpond.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 1:43 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey > > > > Hi Judith, > > I have checked the BDM's for Victoria, Australia, and can't find anything > > that fits those names and dates, so that's one less for you to have to > > try. > > Sorry it wasn't more successful. > > > > Geraldine Slattery. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Judith Casey > > Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 9:47 PM > > To: beara@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey > > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I am still trying to trace: > > > > 1. Patsy (Patrick) Casey born March 1867, Filane, Castletownbere. He was > > the > > > > son of Mick Casey (Filane) and Julia (nee O'Sullivan (Keagh) ) > > > > He was the brother of my grandfather, Michael Casey (Filane) born May > > 1881. > > > > My Uncle in Cork says he went to Australia, never married, ploughed the > > land > > > > and died there. Riobard's book says he went to Butte, Montana. > > > > 2. Mary Patricia Casey, born March 1919, Filane Castletownbere. > > > > She was the daughter of Michael Casey & Agnes (nee Hanley). She died as a > > child, but I have not been able to find any record of her birth or death. > > > > I have had no luck whatsoever, so if anybody could please help me I would > > be > > > > extremely grateful. > > > > Judith Casey > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.6.6/1623 - Release Date: 8/20/2008 > > 8:12 AM > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get thousands of games on your PC, your mobile phone, and the web with Windows®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108588800/direct/01/

Sometimes I am not at home when people call to my door looking for help in tracing their ancestors. For instance, yesterday somebody in Castletownbere sent people out 5 miles to Eyeries to me to help them ----- but it was a wasted journey, as I happened to be about 100 miles away in Cork City at the time. It is better to phone (74015) from any part of Beara, Co. Cork South-West, first. Even if I'm not at home, a message can be left (plus email, if possible). If calling from any part of Ireland outside of the Bantry/Beara areas, the phone is (027)74015. If wanting to get in touch with me from the U.S.A., etc., it would be easier first to email me. If writing, don't forget to enclose your email. I suppose I'm getting a bit lazy with old age !! ----- Riobard. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1512 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

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Hi Judith, I have checked the BDM's for Victoria, Australia, and can't find anything that fits those names and dates, so that's one less for you to have to try. Sorry it wasn't more successful. Geraldine Slattery. -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Judith Casey Sent: Wednesday, 20 August 2008 9:47 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] 1. Patsy Casey 2. Mary Patricia Casey Hello everybody, I am still trying to trace: 1. Patsy (Patrick) Casey born March 1867, Filane, Castletownbere. He was the son of Mick Casey (Filane) and Julia (nee O'Sullivan (Keagh) ) He was the brother of my grandfather, Michael Casey (Filane) born May 1881. My Uncle in Cork says he went to Australia, never married, ploughed the land and died there. Riobard's book says he went to Butte, Montana. 2. Mary Patricia Casey, born March 1919, Filane Castletownbere. She was the daughter of Michael Casey & Agnes (nee Hanley). She died as a child, but I have not been able to find any record of her birth or death. I have had no luck whatsoever, so if anybody could please help me I would be extremely grateful. Judith Casey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everybody, I am still trying to trace: 1. Patsy (Patrick) Casey born March 1867, Filane, Castletownbere. He was the son of Mick Casey (Filane) and Julia (nee O'Sullivan (Keagh) ) He was the brother of my grandfather, Michael Casey (Filane) born May 1881. My Uncle in Cork says he went to Australia, never married, ploughed the land and died there. Riobard's book says he went to Butte, Montana. 2. Mary Patricia Casey, born March 1919, Filane Castletownbere. She was the daughter of Michael Casey & Agnes (nee Hanley). She died as a child, but I have not been able to find any record of her birth or death. I have had no luck whatsoever, so if anybody could please help me I would be extremely grateful. Judith Casey

Dear Lisa, I'm up for any challenge as long as I know what I am being challenged about. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > Well happy to see you 'sound' like you wish to get back on the horse! I > hope you are!! Interested? Cause I would like to trace my O'Sullivan's > back to the Bear. Since I now have the island family well established, > you > up for a challenge, hehe? > > Let me know. I may be in your neck of the woods for the Christmas > holidays > ( a week or two before or after). > > Hugs to you and yours, > > Lisa > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 10:21 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > > This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to > the > world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers > to > the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years > of > research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully > there > will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that > you > will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to > trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. > Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village > the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, > thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic > Games. > ----- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Riobard O'Dwyer > To: Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. > > > Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries > over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that > I > research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork > (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including > DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish > (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also > includes > the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between > Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). > The address to which you can write is:- > Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). > Eyeries Village, > Beara Peninsula, > Co. Cork, > Ireland, > or you can email me at:- > Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of > the above Parishes. > When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are > certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you > are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the > olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, > but > with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority > of > cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were > put > into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 > different > Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you > weren't > aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon > Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that > ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the > Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a > family > in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in > a > few different Parishes! > , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to > townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; > or > a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. > Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically > impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from > some > part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into > Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my > greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to > which > one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". > At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors > were > married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out > that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people > think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the > parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate > that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was > actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had > emigrated. > Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in > Castletownbere, > but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been > born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. > Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from > marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming > to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior > research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform > miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go > on. > Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their > ancestors > would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off > the > mark. > The vitally necessary basic information to send with your > query > to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the > ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the > mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if > you > have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date > of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- > in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to > what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what > part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, > and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially > if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who > he/she married). > The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory > information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, > etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry > is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their > ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, > unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if > they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their > ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional > joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually > contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family > reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are > becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to > travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., > relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! > aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven > seas" > and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be > thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would > make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula > --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled > the > full circle. > ----- > Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1503 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Dear Reg, That genealogist is still there. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Volk" <regvolk1@uniserve.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > Riobard > > Gad you were running up and down the village! I wish you many more years > of > the same. If only Ireland had more dedicated researchers like you! I did > try the email for the researcher you sent me re the Bantry/Cork area. > Thanks very much-unfortunately -no response. > Do you know if she is still around? > > On a cheerful note, I was in your neck of the woods the last two weeks of > July but decided not to bother you as you have lots of enquiries > anyway--more to come now? > And my family does not seem to be from your area. A couple of '31st > cousins' did help me with research at Bantry-getting close now but NOT > 100%! > Need to find some records specific to the 1860's for that area which seems > very difficult. > > Anywise, glad you are back at it. If the tourists/genealogists bother you > too much > Just take them on a run through town!! > > CHEERS-Reg (O'Regan) Volk-Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: August 18, 2008 8:21 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > > This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to > the > world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers > to > the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years > of > research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully > there > will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that > you > will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to > trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. > Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village > the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, > thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic > Games. > ----- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Riobard O'Dwyer > To: Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. > > > Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries > over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that > I > research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork > (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including > DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish > (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also > includes > the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between > Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). > The address to which you can write is:- > Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). > Eyeries Village, > Beara Peninsula, > Co. Cork, > Ireland, > or you can email me at:- > Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of > the above Parishes. > When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are > certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you > are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the > olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, > but > with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority > of > cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were > put > into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 > different > Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you > weren't > aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon > Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that > ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the > Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a > family > in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in > a > few different Parishes! > , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to > townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; > or > a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. > Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically > impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from > some > part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into > Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my > greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to > which > one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". > At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors > were > married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out > that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people > think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the > parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate > that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was > actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had > emigrated. > Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in > Castletownbere, > but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been > born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. > Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from > marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming > to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior > research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform > miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go > on. > Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their > ancestors > would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off > the > mark. > The vitally necessary basic information to send with your > query > to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the > ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the > mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if > you > have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date > of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- > in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to > what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what > part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, > and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially > if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who > he/she married). > The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory > information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, > etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry > is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their > ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, > unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if > they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their > ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional > joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually > contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family > reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are > becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to > travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., > relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! > aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven > seas" > and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be > thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would > make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula > --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled > the > full circle. > ----- > Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 1503 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

I have some births and a marriage with names of witnesses from the Bantry area from 1862-1879--my families are Sullivan and Connor. I'd be happy to share information if you would care to share. M. W. Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Volk" <regvolk1@uniserve.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > Riobard > > Gad you were running up and down the village! I wish you many more years > of > the same. If only Ireland had more dedicated researchers like you! I did > try the email for the researcher you sent me re the Bantry/Cork area. > Thanks very much-unfortunately -no response. > Do you know if she is still around? > > On a cheerful note, I was in your neck of the woods the last two weeks of > July but decided not to bother you as you have lots of enquiries > anyway--more to come now? > And my family does not seem to be from your area. A couple of '31st > cousins' did help me with research at Bantry-getting close now but NOT > 100%! > Need to find some records specific to the 1860's for that area which seems > very difficult. > > Anywise, glad you are back at it. If the tourists/genealogists bother you > too much > Just take them on a run through town!! > > CHEERS-Reg (O'Regan) Volk-Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: August 18, 2008 8:21 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Researching again. Can't stay away from it !! > > This should be of some help to those of Beara ancestry who are "lost to > the > world" trying to find out who their ancestors were. Just to let newcomers > to > the List know that even though my hair is going grey after circa 50 years > of > research (although I'll be getting a new haircut tomorrow), hopefully > there > will be another few years in me before I kick the bucket !! After that > you > will have a bit of a job endeavouring to trace those you may be able to > trace easier now. Anyhow, over to you. Hope you are keeping well. > Thankfully, I'm feeling o.k. again. I was running up and down the village > the day before I got the "virus" that flattened me temporarily. But, > thankfully, I'm on the gallop again ---- ready for the next Olympic > Games. > ----- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Riobard O'Dwyer > To: Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 6:13 PM > Subject: Necessary background information re. genealogical queries. > > > Having received a considerable number of genealogical queries > over the years about many parts of Ireland, I would like to emphasise that > I > research ONLY the genealogical ancestries of the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork > (South-West);- ADRIGOLE Parish, ALLIHIES (Copper Mines) Parish (including > DURSEY ISLAND), BERE ISLAND Parish, CASTLETOWNBERE Parish, EYERIES Parish > (including INISFERNARD ISLAND), and GLENGARRIFF Parish (which also > includes > the various townlands of the BONANE area, Co. Kerry ----- situated between > Glengarriff and Kenmare (on the Kenmare, Co. Kerry, side of the tunnel). > The address to which you can write is:- > Riobard O'Dwyer (Genealogist). > Eyeries Village, > Beara Peninsula, > Co. Cork, > Ireland, > or you can email me at:- > Beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net > ONLY if you feel reasonably sure that your ancestors were from any one of > the above Parishes. > When forwarding queries to me, what you need to send are > certain basic things that might help track down the particular family you > are trying to find ----- especially here in Beara (sometimes known in the > olden days as Berehaven) where not alone are you dealing with surnames, > but > with several Branch-Names of a number of those surnames. In the majority > of > cases in the olden days it was with Branch-Names ONLY that children were > put > into the Parish Records. For instance, there are approximately 80 > different > Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Names in the Beara Peninsula, and if you > weren't > aware of what they were, you may as well be searching through the Amazon > Jungle, or looking for a needle in a haystack for your O'Sullivan, if that > ancestor was not put into the Parish Records originally under the > Sullivan/O'Sullivan surname as such. At times a researcher may find a > family > in about four or five different townlands within a Parish, or sometimes in > a > few different Parishes! > , because in the olden days tenants were switched around from townland to > townland or from Parish to Parish by order of the Landlord or his Agent; > or > a Tradesman looking for work might move around in similar fashion. > Vagueness of information sent with the queries is practically > impossible to deal with, e.g. "My grandmother Mary Harrington came from > some > part of County Cork"; "My grandfather Patrick O'Sullivan threw stones into > Bantry Bay"; "Remember I wrote to you 12 years ago about my > greatgreatgrandfather John O'Shea (giving no further information as to > which > one of several hundred John O'Sheas was the man in question)". > At times, people would have the idea that their ancestors > were > married in Beara before they emigrated to the States, whereas it turns out > that they married in the States after emigrating. At times, also, people > think that the first child of their ancestors was born in Beara before the > parents emigrated to the States, etc., but further research might indicate > that the parents were married in Beara alright, but the first child was > actually born in the States, etc., shortly after the parents had > emigrated. > Several people have the idea that their ancestor was born in > Castletownbere, > but often that is only a guide to the fact of their ancestor having been > born in SOME part of the Beara Peninsula. > Many people don't do enough research on their own first (from > marriage records, birth/baptismal records, obituaries, etc.) before coming > to a genealogist looking for further-back data. Many people do no prior > research ---- but arrive at a genealogist's door expecting him to perform > miracles at the drop of a hat, and giving him practically nothing to go > on. > Sometimes the "ages" or "years of birth" they would have for their > ancestors > would prove later (after alot of needlessly wasted time) to be years off > the > mark. > The vitally necessary basic information to send with your > query > to a genealogist would be the name and approx. date of birth of the > ancestor; the Christian name of the father and the MAIDEN name of the > mother; the name of the ancestral parish in Beara, and better still (if > you > have it) the townland within that parish; the MAIDEN name and approx. date > of birth of the ancestor's wife (and any basic details on her parents ---- > in case they also may have come from some part of the Beara Peninsula); to > what part of the States or elsewhere did the ancestor emigrate, or in what > part settle down; names and approx. dates of birth of ancestor's siblings, > and any bit of information on them (marriage or otherwise), and especially > if any sibling settled down in the home farm, or nearby, in Beara (and who > he/she married). > The reason for all this type of necessary preparatory > information is:- if a link can be made (for example) between the States, > etc. and a particular part of the Beara Peninsula, then (when the ancestry > is all sorted out) people can at least visit the home area of their > ancestors (even if those families are long gone from the area which, > unfortunately, due to emigration, or eviction, was often the case); or, if > they are lucky, be able to see and stand inside even the ruins of their > ancestral home ---- and I have seen many tears of understandably emotional > joy shed on such occasions; or, if luckier still, be able to eventually > contact and visit relatives in the Beara Peninsula (organised family > reunions of relatives from many parts of the world of Beara ancestry are > becoming more and more popular); and even if they are not in a position to > travel, they would still be able to contact by letter, email, phone, etc., > relatives all over the world, because of all the pl! > aces in Ireland, our ancestors from Beara must have sailed "the seven > seas" > and travelled to every continent on God's earth. Still out there must be > thousands who may yet be lucky enough to find the little link that would > make the all-important connection to the beautiful, scenic Beara Peninsula > --- and to their ancestral home. The wheel at last would have travelled > the > full circle. > ----- > Riobard. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message