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Hi Riobard, thanks for pulling me up over my mistaken belief over Ardra/Ardrath and Ardagh being one and the same. That only goes to prove that even with some small knowledge of the Townlands on Beara mistakes and misinterpretations are only to easy to make. I fell in with both feet to the simplest and most common of errors by taking a name and extrapolating it to another spelling. Like the good carpenter, in future Ill measure twice. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: 15 October 2008 16:12 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. I agree with a mighty lot of what John had to say. Just one thing: Ardra/Ardrath and Ardagh are two different townlands in Bere Island. --- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "webmaster" <webmaster@bhs.ie> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa, Ardra is most probably an older spelling of Ardagh and in time you may well find others. Over the centuries place and personal names change for many reasons, maybe the person writing the details mishears a word due to being unable to understand the local dialect or came from another part of the country where the spelling is different. Up until our road signs were changed from Miles to Kilometres just a few years back, many of the road signs across Ireland would have different spellings from the version printed in the State Ordnance Survey, Council planning and road maps, this was mainly due to the fact that in the 19th century when the maps were originally drawn up by the British in Dublin they used Leinster Irish and there would have been spelling variations to the Munster Irish. As Riobard has said many times over the years, just trying to decipher a single word, can on occasion take an age! Take your own family name for instance, over the years I've come across it spelt variously as: - O'Suilleabháin, O'Sullivn, O'Sullyvan, O'Suibhne, O'Suileabhain, O'Sulevane, O'Sullevane, O'Swyllyvan, O'Sylllyan and many others. So I can well understand your confusion, I've been struggling with the Irish words and Placenames of Beara for the past 20 years and still only have but a small understanding, but perseverance pays in the end and it proves that old maxim, when in doubt 'Always go to the horse's mouth', I constantly do. To restate Riobard's advice; Keep away from the 'Pay to find your ancestor's websites'. How on earth can those companies working out of from only God knows where, be able to access documents held in the local Church, Library, Society etc, let alone have the proficiency to interpret places and names in old faded documents without an through understanding of local tradition and the Irish language with all its nuances. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 13 October 2008 06:41 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thank you John, Now I need to understand the term Ardra since this doesn't appear as a townland, is it a family distinction like Seer rather than a location? Sorry for the learning curver.... -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of webmaster Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:04 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa, if you go to http://www.bhs.ie and click on the button marked Townlands then click on Parish Names and finally Bere Island you will find a List of all the townlands on the Island along with their meanings. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 12 October 2008 19:11 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thanks Jim, Are Ardaragh and Ardagh both on Bere Island, where our family is from? And now that I look again, Riobard notes Roger, et al, are from Ardra! Now I'm really confused, hehe. I know we have O'Sullivan SEER in the family too..... Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan>! > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !!> ---- Riobard.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM> Subject: [BEARA] Spelling.> > > > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > > called BLOOKBEA. 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Friends of Beara, Sue Iles has a new post up in her beautiful Ring of Beara blog. This time she visited the Dzogchen Beara Tibetan Buddhist retreat centre outside Castletownbere. As always, Sue includes breathtaking pictures of the Beara countryside. Go have a look: http://ringofbeara.blogspot.com/2008/10/dzogchen-bearatibetan-buddhist-retreat.html -- Bill
I agree with a mighty lot of what John had to say. Just one thing: Ardra/Ardrath and Ardagh are two different townlands in Bere Island. --- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "webmaster" <webmaster@bhs.ie> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa, Ardra is most probably an older spelling of Ardagh and in time you may well find others. Over the centuries place and personal names change for many reasons, maybe the person writing the details mishears a word due to being unable to understand the local dialect or came from another part of the country where the spelling is different. Up until our road signs were changed from Miles to Kilometres just a few years back, many of the road signs across Ireland would have different spellings from the version printed in the State Ordnance Survey, Council planning and road maps, this was mainly due to the fact that in the 19th century when the maps were originally drawn up by the British in Dublin they used Leinster Irish and there would have been spelling variations to the Munster Irish. As Riobard has said many times over the years, just trying to decipher a single word, can on occasion take an age! Take your own family name for instance, over the years I've come across it spelt variously as: - O'Suilleabháin, O'Sullivn, O'Sullyvan, O'Suibhne, O'Suileabhain, O'Sulevane, O'Sullevane, O'Swyllyvan, O'Sylllyan and many others. So I can well understand your confusion, I've been struggling with the Irish words and Placenames of Beara for the past 20 years and still only have but a small understanding, but perseverance pays in the end and it proves that old maxim, when in doubt 'Always go to the horse's mouth', I constantly do. To restate Riobard's advice; Keep away from the 'Pay to find your ancestor's websites'. How on earth can those companies working out of from only God knows where, be able to access documents held in the local Church, Library, Society etc, let alone have the proficiency to interpret places and names in old faded documents without an through understanding of local tradition and the Irish language with all its nuances. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 13 October 2008 06:41 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thank you John, Now I need to understand the term Ardra since this doesn't appear as a townland, is it a family distinction like Seer rather than a location? Sorry for the learning curver.... -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of webmaster Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:04 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa, if you go to http://www.bhs.ie and click on the button marked Townlands then click on Parish Names and finally Bere Island you will find a List of all the townlands on the Island along with their meanings. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 12 October 2008 19:11 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thanks Jim, Are Ardaragh and Ardagh both on Bere Island, where our family is from? And now that I look again, Riobard notes Roger, et al, are from Ardra! Now I'm really confused, hehe. I know we have O'Sullivan SEER in the family too..... Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan>! > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !!> ---- Riobard.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM> Subject: [BEARA] Spelling.> > > > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > > called BLOOKBEA. 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Hi Lisa, Ardra is most probably an older spelling of Ardagh and in time you may well find others. Over the centuries place and personal names change for many reasons, maybe the person writing the details mishears a word due to being unable to understand the local dialect or came from another part of the country where the spelling is different. Up until our road signs were changed from Miles to Kilometres just a few years back, many of the road signs across Ireland would have different spellings from the version printed in the State Ordnance Survey, Council planning and road maps, this was mainly due to the fact that in the 19th century when the maps were originally drawn up by the British in Dublin they used Leinster Irish and there would have been spelling variations to the Munster Irish. As Riobard has said many times over the years, just trying to decipher a single word, can on occasion take an age! Take your own family name for instance, over the years Ive come across it spelt variously as: - O'Suilleabháin, O'Sullivn, O'Sullyvan, OSuibhne, OSuileabhain, OSulevane, OSullevane, OSwyllyvan, OSylllyan and many others. So I can well understand your confusion, Ive been struggling with the Irish words and Placenames of Beara for the past 20 years and still only have but a small understanding, but perseverance pays in the end and it proves that old maxim, when in doubt Always go to the horses mouth, I constantly do. To restate Riobards advice; Keep away from the Pay to find your ancestors websites. How on earth can those companies working out of from only God knows where, be able to access documents held in the local Church, Library, Society etc, let alone have the proficiency to interpret places and names in old faded documents without an through understanding of local tradition and the Irish language with all its nuances. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 13 October 2008 06:41 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thank you John, Now I need to understand the term Ardra since this doesn't appear as a townland, is it a family distinction like Seer rather than a location? Sorry for the learning curver.... -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of webmaster Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:04 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa, if you go to http://www.bhs.ie and click on the button marked Townlands then click on Parish Names and finally Bere Island you will find a List of all the townlands on the Island along with their meanings. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 12 October 2008 19:11 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thanks Jim, Are Ardaragh and Ardagh both on Bere Island, where our family is from? And now that I look again, Riobard notes Roger, et al, are from Ardra! Now I'm really confused, hehe. I know we have O'Sullivan SEER in the family too..... Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan>! > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !!> ---- Riobard.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM> Subject: [BEARA] Spelling.> > > > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > > called BLOOKBEA. 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Dear Jeanine, In another email, I have further information for you. Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JMorey4657@aol.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Needing help > Sorry for the confusion. > > Johannah Downey//Johannah Sullivan/ Johannah Murphy are one and the > same. > > Downey her maiden name > Sullivan from her 1st marriage. > Murphy 2nd marriage. > She (Johannah) is buried in Butte Montana. > I have not been able to trace the names of all her children. The 1880 > Michigan census shows only 3 children. > My grandmother/////and 2 1/2 brothers john and Jim Murphy both died early > from lung problems. They are also buried Butte Mt with Johannah > Johannah is listed as Johannah Sullivan on my grandmothers marriage > certificate. > The death certificates for Johannah only lists Ireland as a place of > birth. > No information was left as to where she was married, or born. I only > know > what I have been told. > I do not know where she married either husband, I have searched the > census > records dating back from 1880 and nothing. > I realize that black hair had nothing to do with place of birth (it was > something my grandmother said quite often). > I may not have enough information to actually find Johanna, I only know > that > The search is exciting and that I appreciate the help. > > Thank You > Jeanine > JMorey4657@aol.com > > > **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your > destination. > Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out > (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for Personal use. SPAMfighter has removed 1803 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Trial and Professional version does not have this message in the email
Thank you John, Now I need to understand the term Ardra since this doesn't appear as a townland, is it a family distinction like Seer rather than a location? Sorry for the learning curver.... -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of webmaster Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:04 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa, if you go to http://www.bhs.ie and click on the button marked Townlands then click on Parish Names and finally Bere Island you will find a List of all the townlands on the Island along with their meanings. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 12 October 2008 19:11 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thanks Jim, Are Ardaragh and Ardagh both on Bere Island, where our family is from? And now that I look again, Riobard notes Roger, et al, are from Ardra! Now I'm really confused, hehe. I know we have O'Sullivan SEER in the family too..... Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan>! > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. 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Hi Lisa, if you go to http://www.bhs.ie and click on the button marked Townlands then click on Parish Names and finally Bere Island you will find a List of all the townlands on the Island along with their meanings. Best Wishes. John -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lisa O Sent: 12 October 2008 19:11 To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Thanks Jim, Are Ardaragh and Ardagh both on Bere Island, where our family is from? And now that I look again, Riobard notes Roger, et al, are from Ardra! Now I'm really confused, hehe. I know we have O'Sullivan SEER in the family too..... Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan>! > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !!> ---- Riobard.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM> Subject: [BEARA] Spelling.> > > > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > > called BLOOKBEA. 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Hi Lisa Need to get my family tree out and look, will do so in the next few days and get back to you. sheila> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 00:31:05 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] O'Sullivan Bere Island & CO Cork> > Hi Sheila,> > I know we've talked before and came to the conclusion that my O'Sullivan's> aren't your O'Sullivan's...but they just MUST be connected, maybe cousins?> I can't help but comment on the S. S. Ierne. John O'Sullivan, b 1895 Bere> Island to John (son of Roger) O'Sullivan & Brigid O'Sullivan (dau of Peter> O'Sullivan and Julia McCarthy) ALSO worked on the S.S. Ierne as a cabin boy> in 1910 alongside his UNCLE Mickey, the chief engineer of the S.S. Ierne,> who got him the job. (This from a family letter). > > Could I have found the connection at last? Could my John's uncle Mikey be> your Michael's father Michael????? Do you know if Michael senior's parents> were Roger O'Sullivan and Johanna O'Neill?? According to Riobard's book> this Michael resided at one time in Plymouth, England and had a daughter,> Bella, who married Dan John Murphy and lived in Portsmouth, England.> > ~Lisa > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of sheila legge> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:21 PM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BEARA] O'Sullivan Bere Island & CO Cork> > > I Hope some one may be able to help I am trying to trace the family of> Michael O'Sullivan (Ukirre)> > Michael was Born in 1909 (also have 1903 as a Birth year) at The Bridge,> Derrycreeveen, Bere Island to Michael O'Sullivan (Ukirre) & Margaret> Harrington (Caobach) Daughter of Timothy Harrington (Caobach) & Mary> O'Sullivan.> Michael died on 14th March 1969 aged 60yrs details from his Mass Card. > > Michael was married to Bridie O'Sullivan Daughter of Pad (or Patrick)> O'Sullivan & Mary Harrington (Trokirre) Knockrua West, Allihies Parish. > > Michael worked as a carpenter on the Irish Lights, and later had a shop at> 40, Shandon St ,Co Cork.> His Father Michael also worked on the Irish Lights vessel S.S Ierne.> > I rember going to see them at the shop when we were on our way back to> England after being on holiday to Bere Island.> > Can anyone tell me if Shandon St is still there and may be the shop (can't> rember what they sold), also how I can go about tracing Michael's family. I> live in Cheshire England, so any searches I do will be on line.> > Has anyone these names in their family tree?> > Thank you> > Sheila> > > _________________________________________________________________> Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda & Live Search and 100’s of Kung> Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in> the subject and the body of the message> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Make a mini you and download it into Windows Live Messenger http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/111354029/direct/01/
Sorry for the confusion. Johannah Downey//Johannah Sullivan/ Johannah Murphy are one and the same. Downey her maiden name Sullivan from her 1st marriage. Murphy 2nd marriage. She (Johannah) is buried in Butte Montana. I have not been able to trace the names of all her children. The 1880 Michigan census shows only 3 children. My grandmother/////and 2 1/2 brothers john and Jim Murphy both died early from lung problems. They are also buried Butte Mt with Johannah Johannah is listed as Johannah Sullivan on my grandmothers marriage certificate. The death certificates for Johannah only lists Ireland as a place of birth. No information was left as to where she was married, or born. I only know what I have been told. I do not know where she married either husband, I have searched the census records dating back from 1880 and nothing. I realize that black hair had nothing to do with place of birth (it was something my grandmother said quite often). I may not have enough information to actually find Johanna, I only know that The search is exciting and that I appreciate the help. Thank You Jeanine JMorey4657@aol.com **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)
Thanks Jim, Are Ardaragh and Ardagh both on Bere Island, where our family is from? And now that I look again, Riobard notes Roger, et al, are from Ardra! Now I'm really confused, hehe. I know we have O'Sullivan SEER in the family too..... Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of James Murphy Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 8:47 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan>! > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !!> ---- Riobard.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM> Subject: [BEARA] Spelling.> > > > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > > called BLOOKBEA. Anyone chance what the place is/and has been called for > > many, many years ?> > ----- Riobard.! > >> > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home user s.> > SPAMfighter has removed 1648 spam emails to date.> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users.> SPAMfighter has removed 1676 spam emails to date.> Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in> the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word '! unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!55 0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Dear Riobard, I have 5 copies of that book, but don't see many stories....come on give us one, you know you want to! Or, since Sheila brought it up, know where I might find stories about and the roster of the S.S. Ierne, Irish Light boat? All my best, Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 4:55 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. Dear Lisa, You will get buckets of stories about Ardagh (one of the townlands of Bere Island) in my book "Who were my Ancestors ? Bere Island Parish" from me here. I thought the books were nearly all gone, but recently I came across a container of them that I had forgotten existed. When they are all gone, everybody will be looking for them, but then it will be too late. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around > the > ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I > tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our > counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than > counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything? > > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere > Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story. > > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I > get > Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the > spelling > of the island also. Am I totally off? > > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll > > Lisa O'Sullivan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. > > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was > actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !! > ---- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: [BEARA] Spelling. > > >> At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when >> researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one >> of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while >> before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was >> called BLOOKBEA. Anyone chance what the place is/and has been called for >> many, many years ? >> ----- Riobard. >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. >> SPAMfighter has removed 1648 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. > SPAMfighter has removed 1676 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for Personal use. SPAMfighter has removed 1799 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Trial and Professional version does not have this message in the email ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi I am looking for any information on my Gr. Grandparents that were married in Cork. My Gr Grandfather was Daniel A. Holland (B) 1850 who married Mary Sullivan (B) 1847. They had to have left Ireland prior to 1871 as that was when my Grandmother was (B) in Boston MA. Any help would be greatly appreciated.I realize there must have been thousands of Mary Sullivans and Daniel Hollands. Thank you and have a great day Joe -- RI
I have sent in so many things to what are probably now in the Beara archives that it would be impossible for me to remember them all. Who were the 18 parents, and in what context ? ---- Riobard O'Dwyer. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:29 AM Subject: [BEARA] Lists of Parents > Hello! Beara archives lists a number of parents --18 to be exact from an > old copy book posted by Riobard Dwyer in Jan. 2007. Were these from a > particular parish or townland in Beara? > > Thanks > > Marge Sullivan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for Personal use. SPAMfighter has removed 1799 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Trial and Professional version does not have this message in the email
Dear Lisa, You will get buckets of stories about Ardagh (one of the townlands of Bere Island) in my book "Who were my Ancestors ? Bere Island Parish" from me here. I thought the books were nearly all gone, but recently I came across a container of them that I had forgotten existed. When they are all gone, everybody will be looking for them, but then it will be too late. Regards, Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa O" <ohlisao@att.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around > the > ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I > tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our > counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than > counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything? > > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere > Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story. > > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I > get > Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the > spelling > of the island also. Am I totally off? > > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll > > Lisa O'Sullivan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. > > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was > actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !! > ---- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM > Subject: [BEARA] Spelling. > > >> At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when >> researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one >> of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while >> before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was >> called BLOOKBEA. Anyone chance what the place is/and has been called for >> many, many years ? >> ----- Riobard. >> >> -- >> I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. >> SPAMfighter has removed 1648 spam emails to date. >> Paying users do not have this message in their emails. >> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. > SPAMfighter has removed 1676 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for Personal use. SPAMfighter has removed 1799 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Trial and Professional version does not have this message in the email
They are lists of parents names from old copy books posted Jan 2007: Here is the link to the last list which has some notes about where they people were from http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Beara/2007-01/1167744135 The listing I'm particularly interested in is this one http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Beara/2007-01/1167744135 The Hurrig and Ukirre Sullivans, as well as some w/o branch names listed but with first names Cornelius, John, Mortimer Any additional information of interest beyond what is posted of interest--particularly if families are known to have left the area and the approximate dates of these records. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lists of Parents > > I have sent in so many things to what are probably now in > the Beara archives that it would be impossible for me to remember them > all. > Who were the 18 parents, and in what context ? > ---- Riobard O'Dwyer. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 1:29 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Lists of Parents > > >> Hello! Beara archives lists a number of parents --18 to be exact from an >> old copy book posted by Riobard Dwyer in Jan. 2007. Were these from a >> particular parish or townland in Beara? >> >> Thanks >> >> Marge Sullivan >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for Personal use. > SPAMfighter has removed 1799 of my spam emails to date. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > The Trial and Professional version does not have this message in the email > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Lisa,I think Ya'll have got the wrong townland.The Roger-Sullivan's lived in Ardaragh not Ardagh-easy to get those mixed up,Either spelling Bere or Beare is correct. I didn't meet any of your husband's relatives while I was there,I guess ya'll will have to go yourself.Take care, Jim.> From: ohlisao@att.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2008 23:22:32 -0500> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the> ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I> tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our> counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than> counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything?> > Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere> Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story.> > And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get> Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling> of the island also. Am I totally off?> > Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll> > Lisa O'Sullivan> > > -----Original Message-----> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On> Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM> To: beara@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling.> > No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually > BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !!> ---- Riobard.> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM> Subject: [BEARA] Spelling.> > > > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > > called BLOOKBEA. Anyone chance what the place is/and has been called for > > many, many years ?> > ----- Riobard.> >> > -- > > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users.> > SPAMfighter has removed 1648 spam emails to date.> > Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users.> SPAMfighter has removed 1676 spam emails to date.> Paying users do not have this message in their emails.> Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in> the subject and the body of the message> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
Hi Sheila, I know we've talked before and came to the conclusion that my O'Sullivan's aren't your O'Sullivan's...but they just MUST be connected, maybe cousins? I can't help but comment on the S. S. Ierne. John O'Sullivan, b 1895 Bere Island to John (son of Roger) O'Sullivan & Brigid O'Sullivan (dau of Peter O'Sullivan and Julia McCarthy) ALSO worked on the S.S. Ierne as a cabin boy in 1910 alongside his UNCLE Mickey, the chief engineer of the S.S. Ierne, who got him the job. (This from a family letter). Could I have found the connection at last? Could my John's uncle Mikey be your Michael's father Michael????? Do you know if Michael senior's parents were Roger O'Sullivan and Johanna O'Neill?? According to Riobard's book this Michael resided at one time in Plymouth, England and had a daughter, Bella, who married Dan John Murphy and lived in Portsmouth, England. ~Lisa -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sheila legge Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 1:21 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] O'Sullivan Bere Island & CO Cork I Hope some one may be able to help I am trying to trace the family of Michael O'Sullivan (Ukirre) Michael was Born in 1909 (also have 1903 as a Birth year) at The Bridge, Derrycreeveen, Bere Island to Michael O'Sullivan (Ukirre) & Margaret Harrington (Caobach) Daughter of Timothy Harrington (Caobach) & Mary O'Sullivan. Michael died on 14th March 1969 aged 60yrs details from his Mass Card. Michael was married to Bridie O'Sullivan Daughter of Pad (or Patrick) O'Sullivan & Mary Harrington (Trokirre) Knockrua West, Allihies Parish. Michael worked as a carpenter on the Irish Lights, and later had a shop at 40, Shandon St ,Co Cork. His Father Michael also worked on the Irish Lights vessel S.S Ierne. I rember going to see them at the shop when we were on our way back to England after being on holiday to Bere Island. Can anyone tell me if Shandon St is still there and may be the shop (can't rember what they sold), also how I can go about tracing Michael's family. I live in Cheshire England, so any searches I do will be on line. Has anyone these names in their family tree? Thank you Sheila _________________________________________________________________ Win a voice over part with Kung Fu Panda & Live Search and 100s of Kung Fu Panda prizes to win with Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571439/direct/01/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
LOL, Riobard! What ever would we do without you! I'm still wet around the ears and trying to figure out the parishes, let alone the town-lands. I tend to liken the Irish counties to our states, your parishes to our counties (except in Louisiana where they too have parishes rather than counties), then town to town, city to city. Am I learning anything? Got any good stories about Ardagh (that's correct, isn't it?) on Bere Island? Doesn't even have to be good :) I'm just hungry for a story. And please explain for novices such as I, is it Bere or Beare? I know I get Beare from O'Sullivan Beare, but thought I'd seen that used as the spelling of the island also. Am I totally off? Happy Weekend from Texas Ya'll Lisa O'Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 10:55 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Spelling. No takers, so I'll tell you. What was written down as Blookbea was actually BALLAUGHBUE in the Allihies Parish.. See how easy it is !! ---- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:59 PM Subject: [BEARA] Spelling. > At times one can get the strangest of spellings of townlands when > researching ---- especially in the olden days. Recently I came across one > of many, which, with all the experience, had me thinking for a while > before it dawned on me. It is here in the Beara Peninsula,and it was > called BLOOKBEA. Anyone chance what the place is/and has been called for > many, many years ? > ----- Riobard. > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. > SPAMfighter has removed 1648 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for home users. SPAMfighter has removed 1676 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello! Beara archives lists a number of parents --18 to be exact from an old copy book posted by Riobard Dwyer in Jan. 2007. Were these from a particular parish or townland in Beara? Thanks Marge Sullivan