Boher appears as a townland in Killaconenagh Parish in the 1852 Griffiths. It does not appear in Sean Ruad's IreAtlas. Can some kind soul (dear Riobard perhaps?) tell me if this Boher is related to current-day Boher Cottage outside Castletownbere? Thanks Jack

SEER comes from the Gaelic for a tradesman, especially in Beara in the line of a carpenter or a boatbuilder. The Gaelic origin is SAOR. There are many specific types that come under the heading of SEER: Saor baid, a boatwright. Saor cairte, a cartwright. Saor brici, a bricklayer. Saor loinge, a ship's carpenter or shipwright. Saor rotha, a wheelwright. Saor adhmaid, a carpenter. Saor muilinn, millwright. Saor cloiche, a stone mason. One marvels at the brilliant work of the stone masone of old who built the small bridges when what were crossing them at the time were mostly horse, pony and donkey carts. Some of those bridges are still in existence, now bearing the huge (for them) weight of big, fully-laden container trucks and oil lorries. They were built with a certain type of arched pointing so that when the weight came down on them, the stones wedged solidly into one another to better bear the brunt. ROCHTIRRE/ROUGHTIRE/ROCHTERY means a land steward. They were land stewards for the O'Sullivan Bere chieftains. COHU means a provider. They were providers or, in more modern terms, quartermasters for O'Sullivan Bere's army. UKERY/UKERRY is a tucker or fuller of cloth, a process of thickening cloth by moistening, heating, and pressing it. TAILOR speaks for itself, and so does SAILOR. O' Sullivan MASTER goes back about 270 years to schoolmasters who lived in the Tuosist Parish, just across the border in County Kerry, and spread out with that profession into parts of Co. Cork, including later down to the Parish of Castletownbere. Another very interesting, if rare, Beara Sullivan/O'Sullivan branch name is RIDER. Their job, somewhat like the original "Pony Express" in America was to carry the mail on horseback from Bantry to Castletownbere. To be continued. ----- Riobard.

Is it possible that the name "Huge" could be derived from a branch name? It appears on our great grandfather Sullivans 1893 birth certificate, shortly after his parents arrived in the States. The family came from the area around Barnagearagh, on the border of Bantry and Beara. Marge Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Sullivan" <bsull1922@yahoo.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com>; "Beara Research ODwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Continued. Riobard and all, When Meriam and I first went to Ireland in 1963, we took a CIE bus tour around the south, and southwest. On the fourth day,while staying in Killarney, they gave us a day off to wander by ourselves. I had prepared ahead of time by writing and talking to the old folks in the family to find out where the Sullivans came from. My grandfather Had emigrated in the 1850's and grandma 10 years later. They were married in Houghton, Michigan. I learned that the old folks used to correspond, way back, with people in Allihies and Gortahig So Meriam and I rented a Renault Dauphine, got a map and headed for ALLIHIES. We went thru Kenmare and followed the coast down to Eyeries. We stopped in the church, lit a candle and said a prayer for the grandparents. >From there we went to Castletownbere and then down to Allihies. There we stopped at the church and repeated the prayers. Leaving the church, we went into a small pub/grocery store close by. It was run by Paddy O'Sullivan and his wife, Peg. We told him we were looking for family; that my Dad's name was Paddy and his father was Jerry, who had emigrated. They took us into the living room just alongside the bar and store room. Paddy asked what the branch name was. I did not know what he was talking about. He explained about branch names and said if we did not have that, we could never trace the family He said his branch name was Rua. Back home, I called my Dad and asked him. He said that way back in the mine where his dad worked, he was called Jerry the Rock, by his Irish friends. I wrote to Paddy Rua and told him. He wrote back and said he thought that was derived from Rockthalia. He did not know any, and guessed that they all must have emigrated. Twenty two years later, on my 3rd trip, I met Riobard O'Dwyer. He immediately corrected me and told me the name was Rochtirre, and that there were Rochtirres still in Beara. I subsequently met two families. You know me. I could go on and on. We have been to Beara about 15 more times since. Thanks to Riobard, we learned a lot more about the O'Sullivan Rochtirre's and grandma's family the Harrington Caobach's of Cahirkeem. Bill Sullivan --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> wrote: From: Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> Subject: [BEARA] Continued. To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 7:07 AM There were cases, especially where there were many Sullivans, of adding mothers' Christian names to their sons' Christian names e.g. Paddy Biddy, Tim Katty. The job a man had was often added on to his Christian name e.g. Paddy the Ambulance, Mick the Cooper (a cooper made hoops for barrels), Paddy the Baker, Sean Saw Bheara (he was in charge of a big sawmill). There were Christian names with miscellaneous connections. One was Donal a Bhearla ---- Donal (or Daniel) of the English Language. In those days people in that particular part of the Parish spoke all Irish (Gaelic), and Donal was the only person there who could speak a little of the English Language. Hence his "christening". There was a well-known man known as Donal na Slinne ---- Daniel of the slate (slinn is the Gaelic for slate). Donal was the first man in the Parish to put a slate roof on his house. Up to then, all the roofs were made of thatch. Christian names associated with Feast Days: Catherine (January 31st when people made the "rounds" saying decades of the Rosary in a field in which there was a Holy Well. The ancient name for the Eyeries Parish ---- the Parish of Catherine ---- is from the Church of Catherine. Cill is an old Irish name for a Church. St.Brigid's Day was February 1st ; of course St. Patrick's Day, March 17th. St. Quinlan's Day, July 8th. The Sullivans/O'Sullivans are the most numerous family in the Beara Peninsula, so we will deal with them first. They were driven out of their territory in South Tipperary by the Normans around 1200 and moved principally to South Kerry and West Cork. What were known as the O'Sullivan Mor settled around the Kenmare-Killarney area and right up along the Iveragh Peninsula from Kenmare to Cahirciveen. They also moved across to the Bantry area. A section of them settled in the Beara Peninsula, and that's why they are known as O'Sullivan Bere/Beare. Unless a person is extremely experenced with the several Branch-Names into which the surname became of necessity divided (and put down as such in Church Records), it would be as difficult to find one as searching for a needle in a haystack. There wouldn't be much sense in arriving here and saying "My great-grandfather was Patrick Sullivan from somewhere in the Beara" and having very little more information. There were hundr! eds of Patrick Sullivans. But if you had the good fortune of hearing somewhere that your ancestor was known as Paddy Mike Dan, or Patsy Cohu, or Patie Ukirre, then you might have a much better chance of tracing him. The maiden name of his ancestors' mother, and if he had any names of any brothers or sisters of his ancestors (and their approx. dates or years of birth) could come in handy. A few weeks ago, a man who had more or less given up all hopes of tracing his ancestors got in touch with me, and within a day I had found them. The lady ancestor wasn't under Sullivan at all --- but under a Sullivan Branch-Name. But, unfortunately, I won't be alive for ever. Anyhow, one happy man has written to the Parish Priest for Baptism Certs for his ancestors, The Catholic births weren't registered in Ireland until from January 1st 1864 on, but his ancestors were born prior to that. To be continued. ---- Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There were cases, especially where there were many Sullivans, of adding mothers' Christian names to their sons' Christian names e.g. Paddy Biddy, Tim Katty. The job a man had was often added on to his Christian name e.g. Paddy the Ambulance, Mick the Cooper (a cooper made hoops for barrels), Paddy the Baker, Sean Saw Bheara (he was in charge of a big sawmill). There were Christian names with miscellaneous connections. One was Donal a Bhearla ---- Donal (or Daniel) of the English Language. In those days people in that particular part of the Parish spoke all Irish (Gaelic), and Donal was the only person there who could speak a little of the English Language. Hence his "christening". There was a well-known man known as Donal na Slinne ---- Daniel of the slate (slinn is the Gaelic for slate). Donal was the first man in the Parish to put a slate roof on his house. Up to then, all the roofs were made of thatch. Christian names associated with Feast Days: Catherine (January 31st when people made the "rounds" saying decades of the Rosary in a field in which there was a Holy Well. The ancient name for the Eyeries Parish ---- the Parish of Catherine ---- is from the Church of Catherine. Cill is an old Irish name for a Church. St.Brigid's Day was February 1st ; of course St. Patrick's Day, March 17th. St. Quinlan's Day, July 8th. The Sullivans/O'Sullivans are the most numerous family in the Beara Peninsula, so we will deal with them first. They were driven out of their territory in South Tipperary by the Normans around 1200 and moved principally to South Kerry and West Cork. What were known as the O'Sullivan Mor settled around the Kenmare-Killarney area and right up along the Iveragh Peninsula from Kenmare to Cahirciveen. They also moved across to the Bantry area. A section of them settled in the Beara Peninsula, and that's why they are known as O'Sullivan Bere/Beare. Unless a person is extremely experenced with the several Branch-Names into which the surname became of necessity divided (and put down as such in Church Records), it would be as difficult to find one as searching for a needle in a haystack. There wouldn't be much sense in arriving here and saying "My great-grandfather was Patrick Sullivan from somewhere in the Beara" and having very little more information. There were hundreds of Patrick Sullivans. But if you had the good fortune of hearing somewhere that your ancestor was known as Paddy Mike Dan, or Patsy Cohu, or Patie Ukirre, then you might have a much better chance of tracing him. The maiden name of his ancestors' mother, and if he had any names of any brothers or sisters of his ancestors (and their approx. dates or years of birth) could come in handy. A few weeks ago, a man who had more or less given up all hopes of tracing his ancestors got in touch with me, and within a day I had found them. The lady ancestor wasn't under Sullivan at all --- but under a Sullivan Branch-Name. But, unfortunately, I won't be alive for ever. Anyhow, one happy man has written to the Parish Priest for Baptism Certs for his ancestors, The Catholic births weren't registered in Ireland until from January 1st 1864 on, but his ancestors were born prior to that. To be continued. ---- Riobard.

Riobard and all,   When Meriam and I first went to Ireland in 1963, we took a CIE bus tour around the south, and southwest. On the fourth day,while staying in Killarney, they gave us a day off to wander by ourselves. I had prepared ahead of time by writing and talking to the old folks in the family to find out where the Sullivans came from. My grandfather Had emigrated in the 1850's and grandma 10 years later. They were married in Houghton, Michigan. I learned that the old folks used to correspond, way back, with people in Allihies and Gortahig   So Meriam and I rented a Renault Dauphine, got a map and headed for ALLIHIES. We went thru Kenmare and followed the coast down to Eyeries. We stopped in the church, lit a candle and said a prayer for the grandparents. From there we went to Castletownbere and then down to Allihies. There we stopped at the church and repeated the prayers. Leaving the church, we went into a small pub/grocery store close by. It was run by Paddy O'Sullivan and his wife, Peg. We told him we were looking for family; that my Dad's name was Paddy and his father was Jerry, who had emigrated. They took us into the living room just alongside the bar and store room. Paddy asked what the branch name was. I did not know what he was talking about. He explained about branch names and said if we did not have that, we could never trace the family He said his branch name was Rua.   Back home, I called my Dad and asked him. He said that way back in the mine where his dad worked, he was called Jerry the Rock, by his Irish friends. I wrote to Paddy Rua and told him. He wrote back and said he thought that was derived from Rockthalia. He did not know any, and guessed that they all must have emigrated.   Twenty two years later, on my 3rd trip, I met Riobard O'Dwyer. He immediately corrected me and told me the name was Rochtirre, and that there were Rochtirres still in Beara. I subsequently met two families.   You know me. I could go on and on. We have been to Beara about 15 more times since. Thanks to Riobard, we learned a lot more about the O'Sullivan Rochtirre's and grandma's family the Harrington Caobach's of Cahirkeem.    Bill Sullivan --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> wrote: From: Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> Subject: [BEARA] Continued. To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 7:07 AM There were cases, especially where there were many Sullivans, of adding mothers' Christian names to their sons' Christian names e.g. Paddy Biddy, Tim Katty. The job a man had was often added on to his Christian name e.g. Paddy the Ambulance, Mick the Cooper (a cooper made hoops for barrels), Paddy the Baker, Sean Saw Bheara (he was in charge of a big sawmill). There were Christian names with miscellaneous connections. One was Donal a Bhearla ---- Donal (or Daniel) of the English Language. In those days people in that particular part of the Parish spoke all Irish (Gaelic), and Donal was the only person there who could speak a little of the English Language. Hence his "christening". There was a well-known man known as Donal na Slinne ---- Daniel of the slate (slinn is the Gaelic for slate). Donal was the first man in the Parish to put a slate roof on his house. Up to then, all the roofs were made of thatch. Christian names associated with Feast Days: Catherine (January 31st when people made the "rounds" saying decades of the Rosary in a field in which there was a Holy Well. The ancient name for the Eyeries Parish ---- the Parish of Catherine ---- is from the Church of Catherine. Cill is an old Irish name for a Church. St.Brigid's Day was February 1st ; of course St. Patrick's Day, March 17th. St. Quinlan's Day, July 8th. The Sullivans/O'Sullivans are the most numerous family in the Beara Peninsula, so we will deal with them first. They were driven out of their territory in South Tipperary by the Normans around 1200 and moved principally to South Kerry and West Cork. What were known as the O'Sullivan Mor settled around the Kenmare-Killarney area and right up along the Iveragh Peninsula from Kenmare to Cahirciveen. They also moved across to the Bantry area. A section of them settled in the Beara Peninsula, and that's why they are known as O'Sullivan Bere/Beare. Unless a person is extremely experenced with the several Branch-Names into which the surname became of necessity divided (and put down as such in Church Records), it would be as difficult to find one as searching for a needle in a haystack. There wouldn't be much sense in arriving here and saying "My great-grandfather was Patrick Sullivan from somewhere in the Beara" and having very little more information. There were hundr! eds of Patrick Sullivans. But if you had the good fortune of hearing somewhere that your ancestor was known as Paddy Mike Dan, or Patsy Cohu, or Patie Ukirre, then you might have a much better chance of tracing him. The maiden name of his ancestors' mother, and if he had any names of any brothers or sisters of his ancestors (and their approx. dates or years of birth) could come in handy. A few weeks ago, a man who had more or less given up all hopes of tracing his ancestors got in touch with me, and within a day I had found them. The lady ancestor wasn't under Sullivan at all --- but under a Sullivan Branch-Name. But, unfortunately, I won't be alive for ever. Anyhow, one happy man has written to the Parish Priest for Baptism Certs for his ancestors, The Catholic births weren't registered in Ireland until from January 1st 1864 on, but his ancestors were born prior to that. To be continued. ---- Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Riobard, Thank you, thank you! What a treasure you are. >From Sunny Arizona, Coletta Marie -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:07 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Continued. There were cases, especially where there were many Sullivans, of adding mothers' Christian names to their sons' Christian names e.g. Paddy Biddy, Tim Katty. The job a man had was often added on to his Christian name e.g. Paddy the Ambulance, Mick the Cooper (a cooper made hoops for barrels), Paddy the Baker, Sean Saw Bheara (he was in charge of a big sawmill). There were Christian names with miscellaneous connections. One was Donal a Bhearla ---- Donal (or Daniel) of the English Language. In those days people in that particular part of the Parish spoke all Irish (Gaelic), and Donal was the only person there who could speak a little of the English Language. Hence his "christening". There was a well-known man known as Donal na Slinne ---- Daniel of the slate (slinn is the Gaelic for slate). Donal was the first man in the Parish to put a slate roof on his house. Up to then, all the roofs were made of thatch. Christian names associated with Feast Days: Catherine (January 31st when people made the "rounds" saying decades of the Rosary in a field in which there was a Holy Well. The ancient name for the Eyeries Parish ---- the Parish of Catherine ---- is from the Church of Catherine. Cill is an old Irish name for a Church. St.Brigid's Day was February 1st ; of course St. Patrick's Day, March 17th. St. Quinlan's Day, July 8th. The Sullivans/O'Sullivans are the most numerous family in the Beara Peninsula, so we will deal with them first. They were driven out of their territory in South Tipperary by the Normans around 1200 and moved principally to South Kerry and West Cork. What were known as the O'Sullivan Mor settled around the Kenmare-Killarney area and right up along the Iveragh Peninsula from Kenmare to Cahirciveen. They also moved across to the Bantry area. A section of them settled in the Beara Peninsula, and that's why they are known as O'Sullivan Bere/Beare. Unless a person is extremely experenced with the several Branch-Names into which the surname became of necessity divided (and put down as such in Church Records), it would be as difficult to find one as searching for a needle in a haystack. There wouldn't be much sense in arriving here and saying "My great-grandfather was Patrick Sullivan from somewhere in the Beara" and having very little more information. There were hundr! eds of Patrick Sullivans. But if you had the good fortune of hearing somewhere that your ancestor was known as Paddy Mike Dan, or Patsy Cohu, or Patie Ukirre, then you might have a much better chance of tracing him. The maiden name of his ancestors' mother, and if he had any names of any brothers or sisters of his ancestors (and their approx. dates or years of birth) could come in handy. A few weeks ago, a man who had more or less given up all hopes of tracing his ancestors got in touch with me, and within a day I had found them. The lady ancestor wasn't under Sullivan at all --- but under a Sullivan Branch-Name. But, unfortunately, I won't be alive for ever. Anyhow, one happy man has written to the Parish Priest for Baptism Certs for his ancestors, The Catholic births weren't registered in Ireland until from January 1st 1864 on, but his ancestors were born prior to that. To be continued. ---- Riobard. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fascinating! I wonder about the name "Cur" pronounced Coors. Did the idea of froth or foam on the sea play a hand in the name of the American beer Coors? Thank you, Riobard, for another enriching lesson. I love your explanations and stories it reminds me of my uncle who always has such fun tales for the family. Please keep them coming. Best Regards, Dianna Wickern **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)

Many of those who were Baptised Bridget/Brigid here in the Beara Peninsula, Co. Cork, Ireland, changed their names, mostly to Delia and Beatrice, when they emigrated to the States in the days when "no Irish or Blacks" need apply for jobs in certain areas. In fact, a number of years ago, a lady came to me searching for an ancestor of hers. I told her the name was Brigid. She looked at me as if I had two heads on me, as she believed it was Agnes. I told her to travel over a few miles to where other close relatives were living. There she found out that her ancestor was indeed Brigid (who obviously had changed her name to Agnes after emigrating). Variations of Cornelius here were Curney, Corney, Curley/Corley, and a very old Irish version, Cud. Jeremiah was also called Darby or Darb. Variations of Mary were Molly, Maem, Maymie, Minnie, Maenie, a very unusual version, Mayrick, and what I regard as a most beautiful version, a very, very ancient one, Muireann ---- from th old Gaelic version of the name for the Blessed Virgin Mary : Muire. Especially after the Famine, some of the old Gaelic surnames (put down as such in the Parish Records) were changed as follows: Rahilly to REILLY/O'REILLY, Lehane to LYONS, Mulliheen to MULLINS, and Houlihan to HOLLAND. Circa 1879. Jeremiah Houlihan, a copper miner from Allihies (with his wife and their 12 surviving children out of a family of 16) emigrated to faraway Butte, Montana. Jeremiah was the great-grandfather of Jeffrey Holland who was at one time President of the Brigham Young University in Utah , and later one of the twelve apostles of the Mormon Church (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) worldwide. Once upon a time there was hardly a person in Butte, Montana, who hadn't a nickname. Among one of the milder versions there was that of a very popular barber known as Mickey the Bird. Mickey was so named because he was exceptionally light on his feet, being an accomplished stepdancer. I heard of a man with a very thin, sharp nose who was "christened" Split the Hailstone". Another man with a waddling walk was known as Paddy the Duck. A man with a slow, deliberate gait, who was very careful as to where he would place his feet while walking, was duly named Steal upon Birds. Back in Beara there was an old butcher who used keep a few rams in one of the rooms upstairs. He was known to all and sundry as Tady the Ram. Another man had very big, bushy eyebrows and, when he blinked, they looked like two sheeps' fleeces ---- which gave rise to his nickname, The Woolwagger. There was this man who had a large moustache, and he was was mighty fond of drinking porter. He was known as Cur (pronounced Coor ---- like a pigeon coo-ing). Cur is the froth that you would see on the top of a wave when it is "breaking" over a rock. Every time that Cur put his mouth into the pint of porter, his moustache came up out of it covered with "froth". Hence his nickname. A very, very, tall man was known as Hand me down the Moon. One of my own ancestors was Principal Teacher of the Castletownbere School. He was a thin, hardy, wiry man, wearing a goatee beard. He strode around the classroom like an oncoming hurricane, and some wag in the town "christened" him Fury the Goat. To be continued. ---- Riobard.

Due to requests, I will, in a few weeks time, re-do the meanings/origins of the Beara Peninsula Branch Names attached to the various Surnames. At present I am working away at the marriges in Adrigole, Glengarriff and Bonane from 1831 on. I suppose it is one way of forgetting about the cold weather !! Regards, Riobard.

I am planning to attend and will be visiting with Bette Larsen and her husband. Please let me know of any organized plans concerning the mines and Beara connections. ~~C Sullivan --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Anderson, Corby <CAnderson@mtech.edu> wrote: From: Anderson, Corby <CAnderson@mtech.edu> Subject: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 9:26 AM For those of you who would like to visit and have a tour of Montana Tech, I will be pleased to act as your tour guide for the campus while you are here in Butte. Over 100 years old, Montana Tech is world renowned mineral engineering based institution now providing educated and skilled graduates in a wide array of disciplines. Regards, Corby Dr. Corby G. Anderson QP CEng FIChemE Director & Principal Process Engineer Center for Advanced Mineral and Metallurgical Processing Research Professor of Metallurgical and Materials Engineering School of Mines and Engineering Montana Tech Tel 406-496-4794 Fax 406-496-4512 www.mtech.edu/CAMP -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Albright Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:04 AM To: Beara None Subject: Re: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster Just a quick note from "Butte", for those of you planning to visit Butte, and the Granite Mountain Memorial, I would also recommend that you plan to see the "Miners' Memorial Wall" at the World Museum of Mining, which lies just behind Montana Tech. The wall includes names of all the tradesmen who worked in the various mines and associated facilities (Concentrator, Smelters, Railroads, etc.) and died as a result of an injury due to their work. It is almost complete, and should be entirely complete. I know you will enjoy it! Linda A. > From: homharr@mcn.net > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:08:37 -0700 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster > > I noticed that the itinerary for the trip to Butte includes a visit to > the to the site of the Granite Mountain mine disaster. Prior to > visiting the memorial I would recommend Fire and Brimstone - The North > Butte Mining Disaster of 1917 by Michael Punke. It is an easy read and > gives an interesting portrayal of life in Butte and Montana around the > time of Worlds War I. It makes the visit to the memorial much more > meaningful. It is also a "must read" for anyone with Butte roots. > > In 1917 Butte may not have been as welcoming as it is today. For > example, a few weeks after the disaster, Frank Little, executive > chairman of the Industrial Workers of the World arrived in Butte in > support of a strike. Late one night a group of nice men rousted Frank > from his room in a boarding house, tied him to the rear bumper of a car > and dragged him until his kneecaps were scraped off. He survived being > dragged behind the car but did not survive the subsequent hanging from > a railroad trestle. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live(tm): E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022 009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hom I agree the book is very itneresting and it is easy to identify with the poeople involved even though we have no real frame of reference. ~~C Sullivan --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Hom Harrington <homharr@mcn.net> wrote: From: Hom Harrington <homharr@mcn.net> Subject: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 1:08 PM I noticed that the itinerary for the trip to Butte includes a visit to the to the site of the Granite Mountain mine disaster. Prior to visiting the memorial I would recommend Fire and Brimstone – The North Butte Mining Disaster of 1917 by Michael Punke. It is an easy read and gives an interesting portrayal of life in Butte and Montana around the time of Worlds War I. It makes the visit to the memorial much more meaningful. It is also a "must read" for anyone with Butte roots. In 1917 Butte may not have been as welcoming as it is today. For example, a few weeks after the disaster, Frank Little, executive chairman of the Industrial Workers of the World arrived in Butte in support of a strike. Late one night a group of nice men rousted Frank from his room in a boarding house, tied him to the rear bumper of a car and dragged him until his kneecaps were scraped off. He survived being dragged behind the car but did not survive the subsequent hanging from a railroad trestle. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The committee of Beara Historical Society, Castletownbere, (www.bhs.ie <http://www.bhs.ie/> ) would like to wish all on the Beara List a very Happy Valentines Day tomorrow and to thank them for their continued support. Over the last few months the Society's Members have been trialling an Ecard facility we've added to our Heritage PhotoSite where any photo from the Society's collection can be added along with a personalised message. This has proved to be a great success and after discussion with our Domain Provider they have generously agreed to double our monthly traffic allowance at no extra cost as we are a community based voluntary organisation. We have now made this function freely available to all our extended Beara family from the Beara List, the Boston and Butte Societies and to local schools. For those of you not already registered, instructions can be found on our Homepage by clicking on the image of Dunboy Castle or using the following link: http://www.bhs.ie/upload_photos.htm Best Wishes to all. John Kinns

For those of you who would like to visit and have a tour of Montana Tech, I will be pleased to act as your tour guide for the campus while you are here in Butte. Over 100 years old, Montana Tech is world renowned mineral engineering based institution now providing educated and skilled graduates in a wide array of disciplines. Regards, Corby Dr. Corby G. Anderson QP CEng FIChemE Director & Principal Process Engineer Center for Advanced Mineral and Metallurgical Processing Research Professor of Metallurgical and Materials Engineering School of Mines and Engineering Montana Tech Tel 406-496-4794 Fax 406-496-4512 www.mtech.edu/CAMP -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Albright Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:04 AM To: Beara None Subject: Re: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster Just a quick note from "Butte", for those of you planning to visit Butte, and the Granite Mountain Memorial, I would also recommend that you plan to see the "Miners' Memorial Wall" at the World Museum of Mining, which lies just behind Montana Tech. The wall includes names of all the tradesmen who worked in the various mines and associated facilities (Concentrator, Smelters, Railroads, etc.) and died as a result of an injury due to their work. It is almost complete, and should be entirely complete. I know you will enjoy it! Linda A. > From: homharr@mcn.net > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:08:37 -0700 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster > > I noticed that the itinerary for the trip to Butte includes a visit to > the to the site of the Granite Mountain mine disaster. Prior to > visiting the memorial I would recommend Fire and Brimstone - The North > Butte Mining Disaster of 1917 by Michael Punke. It is an easy read and > gives an interesting portrayal of life in Butte and Montana around the > time of Worlds War I. It makes the visit to the memorial much more > meaningful. It is also a "must read" for anyone with Butte roots. > > In 1917 Butte may not have been as welcoming as it is today. For > example, a few weeks after the disaster, Frank Little, executive > chairman of the Industrial Workers of the World arrived in Butte in > support of a strike. Late one night a group of nice men rousted Frank > from his room in a boarding house, tied him to the rear bumper of a car > and dragged him until his kneecaps were scraped off. He survived being > dragged behind the car but did not survive the subsequent hanging from > a railroad trestle. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live(tm): E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022 009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just a quick note from "Butte", for those of you planning to visit Butte, and the Granite Mountain Memorial, I would also recommend that you plan to see the "Miners' Memorial Wall" at the World Museum of Mining, which lies just behind Montana Tech. The wall includes names of all the tradesmen who worked in the various mines and associated facilities (Concentrator, Smelters, Railroads, etc.) and died as a result of an injury due to their work. It is almost complete, and should be entirely complete. I know you will enjoy it! Linda A. > From: homharr@mcn.net > Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:08:37 -0700 > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEARA] Trip to Montana & Granite Mountain Mining disaster > > I noticed that the itinerary for the trip to Butte includes a visit to > the to the site of the Granite Mountain mine disaster. Prior to > visiting the memorial I would recommend Fire and Brimstone – The North > Butte Mining Disaster of 1917 by Michael Punke. It is an easy read and > gives an interesting portrayal of life in Butte and Montana around the > time of Worlds War I. It makes the visit to the memorial much more > meaningful. It is also a "must read" for anyone with Butte roots. > > In 1917 Butte may not have been as welcoming as it is today. For > example, a few weeks after the disaster, Frank Little, executive > chairman of the Industrial Workers of the World arrived in Butte in > support of a strike. Late one night a group of nice men rousted Frank > from his room in a boarding house, tied him to the rear bumper of a car > and dragged him until his kneecaps were scraped off. He survived being > dragged behind the car but did not survive the subsequent hanging from > a railroad trestle. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009

I picked up a copy of this book when I was in Ireland a couple of years ago. It is mostly about the early fortified settlements and castles associated with the Sullivans in Beara and Bantry and the history that can be learned from them. It has many photographs of local places associated with these O'Sullivans historically and gives some background information on the spliting up of the O'Sullivan Beare clan. Not so much geneaology, but interesting stuff stretching back long before we are ever likely to trace records. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen O'Brien Blair" <ktho@comcast.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:35 AM Subject: [BEARA] The Gaelic Lordship of the O'Sullivan Beare >I came across this reference in the CSANA Bibliography here > http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/celtic/database_april_2008.htm > > Breen, Colin. The Gaelic Lordship of the O'Sullivan Beare: A Landscape > Cultural History. Dublin: Four Courts Press, 2005. Rev. Matthew Stout. > Studia Hibernica 33 (2004-2005), 186-188. [XII.A. History, Ireland; XIII. > Art and Archaeology, Ireland] > > Thought it might interest some folks on this list. > > I browse CSANA's Bibliography every so often and request the articles or > books that look interesting through our library here in McMinnville. There > is some really great scholarly stuff on that bibliography. > > Best Regards, > > Kathleen > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I noticed that the itinerary for the trip to Butte includes a visit to the to the site of the Granite Mountain mine disaster. Prior to visiting the memorial I would recommend Fire and Brimstone – The North Butte Mining Disaster of 1917 by Michael Punke. It is an easy read and gives an interesting portrayal of life in Butte and Montana around the time of Worlds War I. It makes the visit to the memorial much more meaningful. It is also a "must read" for anyone with Butte roots. In 1917 Butte may not have been as welcoming as it is today. For example, a few weeks after the disaster, Frank Little, executive chairman of the Industrial Workers of the World arrived in Butte in support of a strike. Late one night a group of nice men rousted Frank from his room in a boarding house, tied him to the rear bumper of a car and dragged him until his kneecaps were scraped off. He survived being dragged behind the car but did not survive the subsequent hanging from a railroad trestle.

I came across this reference in the CSANA Bibliography here http://www.humnet.ucla.edu/humnet/celtic/database_april_2008.htm Breen, Colin. The Gaelic Lordship of the O'Sullivan Beare: A Landscape Cultural History. Dublin: Four Courts Press, 2005. Rev. Matthew Stout. Studia Hibernica 33 (2004-2005), 186-188. [XII.A. History, Ireland; XIII. Art and Archaeology, Ireland] Thought it might interest some folks on this list. I browse CSANA's Bibliography every so often and request the articles or books that look interesting through our library here in McMinnville. There is some really great scholarly stuff on that bibliography. Best Regards, Kathleen

Riobard, What a great trip to get the Beara, Boston and Butte Irish together! I look forward to seeing you and all the others out here. You will love Butte. Dianna Porter> From: beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 16:51:40 +0000> Subject: [BEARA] Boston-Beara Society annual dinner, and trip to Montana.> > The Boston-Beara Society annual dinner and reunion takes place this year in the Florian Hall, 55 Hallet St., Dorchester, Massachusetts, on Sunday April 19th from 2 to 7p.m. Buffet dinner, door prizes, and dance music by the Andy Healy Band. Tickets $50. This is a mighty occasion. I spoke there twice and I will always have very happy memories of it.> For tickets call:-> Pat Dwyer 617-328-6690;> Mary Sullivan-Kelly 781-322-5291;> Mike Dwyer 781-326-1977.> > Committee:- Chairman, Mike Dwyer; Secretary, Mary Sullivan-Kelly; Treasurer, Pat Dwyer; Roger Egan, John Harrington, Kathy Sullivan and Brian McCarthy.> > www.bostonbearasociety.com > > Directions to Florian Hall:- > >From the South Shore:- Take Southeast Expressway North to Exit 11, Granite Ave. Then ____> >From the North Shore:- Take Southeast Expressway South to exit 11B, Granite Ave. Then ___> at the bottom of the ramp, bear right. After the drawbridge, take first right (at lights). This is Hilltop Street. Go up hill and down. At bottom, the street becomes Hallet. Go straight. Florian Hall is on your left. Park either beside the building or across the street. Enter through the front of the building on the right-hand side.> > Now for the Boston-Beara Society fabulous trip to Montana, August 2nd -August 10th 2009. This is an opportunity to reconnect with those of Beara heritage living in Butte, Montana, and to learn of the history of the Irish miners from West Cork who came in their thousands to extract copper ore from the harsh and unforgiving Northern Rockies. The trip will include the following highlights:-> 1) Accomodation in the famous and historic Red Lion/War Bonnet Inn.> 2) Visit to the Butte Archives where copious records recount the lives of the Irish community.> 3) Visit to the Granite Mountain Mining disaster and the Berkeley Pit.> 4) Visit to the Mining Museum.> 5) Visit to St. Patrick's and Holy Cross Cemeteries where the remains of those killed in mining accidents, illnesses relating to mining, and those swept away by the Spanish 'flu of 1918 are buried.> 6) Walking tours of Historic Uptown Butte, the largest historic site in the west.> 7) Talks by the last surviving underground miners of life on "The Richest Hill on Earth".> 8) Day trip to Helena, Marysville, and Canyon Ferry.> 9) Trip to Missoula including a visit to the University of Montana where the Irish Studies program is located, and to the Bitterroot Valley, site of the original Jesuit mission to Montana, and location of the Daly Mansion.> 10) Weekend of August 7-9 at An Ri Ra, a family-oriented Irish Festival in Butte, culminating in outdoot Mass in Irish.> 11) Final dinner and dance at the Finlen Hotel prior to departure on Monday August 10th.> > Cost, including airfare, hotel, and coach = $1300 per person. > Meals not included.> Tour will be limited to the first forty registrations.> For the registration form, the name/names, address, telephone no., email address.> Deposit of $350 per person required by March 1st 2009. No credit cards. Balance due by June 1st 2009. Please make checks payable to:-> Boston Beara Society, and mail with form to:-> Maureen Dwyer-Bennett,> 114 Braeside Road,> Falmouth,> Ma. 02540,> U.S.A.> > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009

Mikedwyerinc@comcast.net ---- Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Bair" <sbair@tds.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Boston-Beara Society annual dinner, and trip to Montana. > Does anyone have an email for Mike Dwyer or anyone on the committee? > I have moved & changed my snail mail address. I need to update my > address with Boston Beara Society. Prefer email to snail mail. > > > Sally O'Sullivan Bair > Mushing USA Board of Directors, > 8554 Gateway Circle > Monticello, MN 55362 USA > Tel: 763 295 5465 > Email: sbair@tds.net > > > > > On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Riobard O'Dwyer wrote: > >> The Boston-Beara Society annual dinner and reunion >> takes place this year in the Florian Hall, 55 Hallet St., >> Dorchester, Massachusetts, on Sunday April 19th from 2 to 7p.m. >> Buffet dinner, door prizes, and dance music by the Andy Healy Band. >> Tickets $50. This is a mighty occasion. I spoke there twice and I >> will always have very happy memories of it. >> For tickets call:- >> Pat Dwyer 617-328-6690; >> Mary Sullivan-Kelly 781-322-5291; >> Mike Dwyer 781-326-1977. >> >> Committee:- Chairman, Mike Dwyer; Secretary, Mary Sullivan-Kelly; >> Treasurer, Pat Dwyer; Roger Egan, John Harrington, Kathy Sullivan >> and Brian McCarthy. >> >> www.bostonbearasociety.com >> >> Directions to Florian Hall:- >>> From the South Shore:- Take Southeast Expressway North to Exit 11, >>> Granite Ave. Then ____ >>> From the North Shore:- Take Southeast Expressway South to exit >>> 11B, Granite Ave. Then ___ >> at the bottom of the ramp, bear right. After the drawbridge, take >> first right (at lights). This is Hilltop Street. Go up hill and >> down. At bottom, the street becomes Hallet. Go straight. Florian >> Hall is on your left. Park either beside the building or across >> the street. Enter through the front of the building on the right- >> hand side. >> >> Now for the Boston-Beara Society fabulous trip to Montana, August >> 2nd -August 10th 2009. This is an opportunity to reconnect with >> those of Beara heritage living in Butte, Montana, and to learn of >> the history of the Irish miners from West Cork who came in their >> thousands to extract copper ore from the harsh and unforgiving >> Northern Rockies. The trip will include the following highlights:- >> 1) Accomodation in the famous and historic Red Lion/War Bonnet Inn. >> 2) Visit to the Butte Archives where copious records recount the >> lives of the Irish community. >> 3) Visit to the Granite Mountain Mining disaster and the Berkeley Pit. >> 4) Visit to the Mining Museum. >> 5) Visit to St. Patrick's and Holy Cross Cemeteries where the >> remains of those killed in mining accidents, illnesses relating to >> mining, and those swept away by the Spanish 'flu of 1918 are buried. >> 6) Walking tours of Historic Uptown Butte, the largest historic >> site in the west. >> 7) Talks by the last surviving underground miners of life on "The >> Richest Hill on Earth". >> 8) Day trip to Helena, Marysville, and Canyon Ferry. >> 9) Trip to Missoula including a visit to the University of Montana >> where the Irish Studies program is located, and to the Bitterroot >> Valley, site of the original Jesuit mission to Montana, and >> location of the Daly Mansion. >> 10) Weekend of August 7-9 at An Ri Ra, a family-oriented Irish >> Festival in Butte, culminating in outdoot Mass in Irish. >> 11) Final dinner and dance at the Finlen Hotel prior to departure >> on Monday August 10th. >> >> Cost, including airfare, hotel, and coach = $1300 per person. >> Meals not included. >> Tour will be limited to the first forty registrations. >> For the registration form, the name/names, address, telephone no., >> email address. >> Deposit of $350 per person required by March 1st 2009. No credit >> cards. Balance due by June 1st 2009. Please make checks payable to:- >> Boston Beara Society, and mail with form to:- >> Maureen Dwyer-Bennett, >> 114 Braeside Road, >> Falmouth, >> Ma. 02540, >> U.S.A. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Thank you so very much, Riobard. Sally Sally Bair Mushing USA Board of Directors 8554 Gateway Circle Monticello, MN 55362 USA Tel: 763 295 5465 Email: sbair@tds.net On Feb 7, 2009, at 5:28 AM, Riobard O'Dwyer wrote: > Mikedwyerinc@comcast.net > ---- Riobard. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sally Bair" <sbair@tds.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Boston-Beara Society annual dinner, and trip to > Montana. > > >> Does anyone have an email for Mike Dwyer or anyone on the committee? >> I have moved & changed my snail mail address. I need to update my >> address with Boston Beara Society. Prefer email to snail mail. >> >> >> Sally O'Sullivan Bair >> Mushing USA Board of Directors, >> 8554 Gateway Circle >> Monticello, MN 55362 USA >> Tel: 763 295 5465 >> Email: sbair@tds.net >> >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Riobard O'Dwyer wrote: >> >>> The Boston-Beara Society annual dinner and reunion >>> takes place this year in the Florian Hall, 55 Hallet St., >>> Dorchester, Massachusetts, on Sunday April 19th from 2 to 7p.m. >>> Buffet dinner, door prizes, and dance music by the Andy Healy Band. >>> Tickets $50. This is a mighty occasion. I spoke there twice and I >>> will always have very happy memories of it. >>> For tickets call:- >>> Pat Dwyer 617-328-6690; >>> Mary Sullivan-Kelly 781-322-5291; >>> Mike Dwyer 781-326-1977. >>> >>> Committee:- Chairman, Mike Dwyer; Secretary, Mary Sullivan-Kelly; >>> Treasurer, Pat Dwyer; Roger Egan, John Harrington, Kathy Sullivan >>> and Brian McCarthy. >>> >>> www.bostonbearasociety.com >>> >>> Directions to Florian Hall:- >>>> From the South Shore:- Take Southeast Expressway North to Exit 11, >>>> Granite Ave. Then ____ >>>> From the North Shore:- Take Southeast Expressway South to exit >>>> 11B, Granite Ave. Then ___ >>> at the bottom of the ramp, bear right. After the drawbridge, take >>> first right (at lights). This is Hilltop Street. Go up hill and >>> down. At bottom, the street becomes Hallet. Go straight. Florian >>> Hall is on your left. Park either beside the building or across >>> the street. Enter through the front of the building on the right- >>> hand side. >>> >>> Now for the Boston-Beara Society fabulous trip to Montana, August >>> 2nd -August 10th 2009. This is an opportunity to reconnect with >>> those of Beara heritage living in Butte, Montana, and to learn of >>> the history of the Irish miners from West Cork who came in their >>> thousands to extract copper ore from the harsh and unforgiving >>> Northern Rockies. The trip will include the following highlights:- >>> 1) Accomodation in the famous and historic Red Lion/War Bonnet Inn. >>> 2) Visit to the Butte Archives where copious records recount the >>> lives of the Irish community. >>> 3) Visit to the Granite Mountain Mining disaster and the Berkeley >>> Pit. >>> 4) Visit to the Mining Museum. >>> 5) Visit to St. Patrick's and Holy Cross Cemeteries where the >>> remains of those killed in mining accidents, illnesses relating to >>> mining, and those swept away by the Spanish 'flu of 1918 are buried. >>> 6) Walking tours of Historic Uptown Butte, the largest historic >>> site in the west. >>> 7) Talks by the last surviving underground miners of life on "The >>> Richest Hill on Earth". >>> 8) Day trip to Helena, Marysville, and Canyon Ferry. >>> 9) Trip to Missoula including a visit to the University of Montana >>> where the Irish Studies program is located, and to the Bitterroot >>> Valley, site of the original Jesuit mission to Montana, and >>> location of the Daly Mansion. >>> 10) Weekend of August 7-9 at An Ri Ra, a family-oriented Irish >>> Festival in Butte, culminating in outdoot Mass in Irish. >>> 11) Final dinner and dance at the Finlen Hotel prior to departure >>> on Monday August 10th. >>> >>> Cost, including airfare, hotel, and coach = $1300 per person. >>> Meals not included. >>> Tour will be limited to the first forty registrations. >>> For the registration form, the name/names, address, telephone no., >>> email address. >>> Deposit of $350 per person required by March 1st 2009. No credit >>> cards. Balance due by June 1st 2009. Please make checks payable to:- >>> Boston Beara Society, and mail with form to:- >>> Maureen Dwyer-Bennett, >>> 114 Braeside Road, >>> Falmouth, >>> Ma. 02540, >>> U.S.A. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA- >>> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message