marge,i have my grangfather's baptizem cert. he was baptized in bantry in dec 7 1872.his parents were jerimiah sullivan and helena sullivan. my grandfather,james,married mary murry here in brighton mass and lived in natick mass.mary,my grandmother died in childbirth in 1905.my father was raised in larne just out side of bantery.my grandfather had 3 sisters that i know of.1 came to boston and married a dennis manning,the other two stayed in cork.one married a john keohane(related to george m cohan)and the other married a manning in larne,where my father grew up.if u find any connections let me know --- On Sun, 6/14/09, Marge Sullivan <hjmcs@optonline.net> wrote: From: Marge Sullivan <hjmcs@optonline.net> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 5:52 PM If you get an exact match with someone, depending on how many markers it is, they can statistically estimate how recent your shared ancestor is. You can list your results with a surname project ---there is a Sullivan project--and can see how many exact or close matches you have and what geographic area the place of origin is origin is.It can literally be an exact match or within a few generations. We have one very close Sullivan match so far, 35 out of 37 markers match. The match  knows his great grandfather's date of immigration (similar to our Eugene, except his folk came to Philadelphia, not New York),  his Irish ggrandfather's first name, and place of origin in Bantry.  At this level of match, we likely share an ancestor within another few  generations.  So he's clearly a cousin, but we don't know at what level and who the actual common ancestor is. A closer match or a match with someone who can link to his or our Irish born ancestors is needed. The other really kool thing is that DNA will eventually allow the tracing of various 'trends" within population movements, so once enough SUllivans are tested it should show the migration and spread of the clan and its subsepts throughout Kerry, and Beara.,  Probably a long way in the future though. Marge  Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >I haven't done this yet, but might. I'm glad you posted about it--I hadn't >realized how accessible this kind of testing has become. > > Can it really be used to establish connections as "recent" as different > groups of Sullivans, though? The NG Human Journey Genographic Project > website > (https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html) > seems to say that it's good for finding out your "deep ancestry," or where > your ancestors were thousands of years ago, but not for "learn[ing] about > your great-grandparents or other recent relatives," as they put it. > However, the site also says that where your family is from affects how > detailed your results are; have you found that the test gives more recent > information for people with Irish ancestry? > > Brian > ________________________________________ > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Marge Sullivan [hjmcs@optonline.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:01 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > Has any of your family group had Y-DNA tested through National Geographic > Human Journey Project or one of the independent labs doing this? > > If you have, contact me off-list and we can compare markers.  This can > tell > us if we are the same general Sullivan branch and how many generations > back > we are likely to have shared an ancestor. > > Marge (hjcmcs@optonline.net) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:58 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a >> connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan >> descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and >> sisters) >> and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before >> mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as >> being >> same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus >> contacted me as well. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >>> Springs Sullivans?   We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >>> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >>> >>> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota >>> Springs >>> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert  at the time >>> of >>> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now.  All these Sullivans are gone >>> from >>> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that >>> Cornelius >>> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >>> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >>> >>> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >>> but >>> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >>> >>> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >>> were >>> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >>> 1862-1889.  They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >>> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >>> laborer >>> in various records.  I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >>> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890  (not far from Sarasota Springs) >>> and >>> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >>> if >>> these are our people or not >>> >>> Any of this suggest a connection? >>> >>> Marge Sullivan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>>> Mortimer. >>>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>>> have >>>> as >>>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>>> on >>>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>>> group. >>>> He >>>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>>> one >>>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>>> many >>>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans????    John >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Brian: >>>>> Hi Brian: >>>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group:  Cornelius, Florence, >>>>> John >>>>> and >>>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>>> border >>>>> in >>>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>>> it >>>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>>> >>>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>>> >>>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>>> I've >>>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone >>>>>> else >>>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of >>>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shelia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>>> checked >>>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>>> > more >>>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>>> > the >>>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>>> > Census. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? 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Dear friends of Beara, The information that follows is something I put together from a series of posts that Riobard O'Dwyer made to this Beara mailing list in April of 2004. I hope it's of some use to you. Bill Gawne Beara list administrator DERIVED FROM TRADES & PROFESSIONS -------------------------------------------------------------------- SEER comes from the Gaelic (Saor) for a tradesman or a craftsman. But there are many specific types that come under this heading of SEER:- Saor baid = a boatwright. Saor cairte = a cartwright. Saor brici = a bricklayer. Saor loinge = a ship's carpenter, or shipwright. Saor rotha = a wheelwright. Saor adhmaid = a carpenter. Saor muilinn = a millwright. Saor cloiche = a stone mason. The trade of a stone mason is once more becoming very popular in Ireland, with many people getting stone walls rather than railings erected around their houses. Stone houses are also starting to come back into fashion. One still marvels at the brilliant work of the stone masons of old who built the small bridges when what were crossing them at that time were mostly horse, pony and donkey carts. Here and there some of those bridges are still in existence ---- now bearing the huge (for them) weight of big fully-laden container trucks and oil-lorries. But they were built with a certain type of arched pointing, so, when the weight came down on them, the stones wedged solidly into one another to better bear the brunt. GOW and CEARTAN are very much "tied up". GOW (also associated with some Harringtons) = a smith/blacksmith. CEARTAN comes from the Gaelic cearta (pronounced like "car-tu") = a Forge. ROCHTIRRE/ROUGHTIRE/ROCHTERY/ROCTERY means a land steward in Gaelic. They were land stewards for the O'Sullivan Bere Chieftains. Diarmuid (= Jeremiah) Rochtirre, a Miner, first emigrated from Cahirkeem in Eyeries Parish all the way to Copper Harbour (near Calumet), northern Michigan, and later settled in Ironwood. He was the ancestor of our present Beara-L Administrator William (or Bill) Sullivan. COHU = a provider. These were providers or, in more modern terms, quartermasters for O'Sullivan Bere's army. UKIRRE (or Ukery) = a tucker or a fuller of cloth ---- a process of thickening cloth by moistening, heating, and pressing it. TAILOR speaks for itself, and so does SAILOR. Many, many people from, in particular, Bere Island took to the sea. John Sullivan, born on the island in 1841, was shipwrecked off the coast of Chile, and eventually made his way over the Andes Mountains to the Buenos Aires area of Argentina where he married and settled down. His daughter married a member of the Ramirez family who were said to have founded the first Cattlemens Bank there. When his daughter gave birth to a boy, John wanted the name Sullivan put somewhere among the names they were giving the child. So this is the name that was finally settled on:- Domingo Paulino Viale SULLIVAN Ramirez. O'Sullivan (MASTER) goes back about 275 years to schoolmasters who lived in Tuosist Parish just across the border in County Kerry, and spread out with that profession into parts of County Cork, including later down to Castletownbere Parish. A fairly recent O'Sullivan Bere Chieftain was the now late Jim O'Sullivan (Senior.) of Droum, Castletownbere, better known to us all as Jim the Master. One of his ancestors was General John O'Sullivan, of General George Washington's Staff, who had a brother James O'Sullivan who was later a Governor of Massachusetts. RIDER. Another very interesting, if rare, Beara Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Name is RIDER. Their job, somewhat like the original "Pony Express" in America, was to carry the mails by horseback from Bantry to Castletownbere. They changed horses in a stable near the bridge in Droumgarvan (Adrigole Parish), near where you branch off for the road to the Healy Pass --- and they eventually settled down in the townlands of Faha, Kilcaskin, and Inchintaglin in Adrigole Parish. Branch names derived from colours FUNE/FIONN/FUEN = fair-haired. RUA = red-haired, or "foxy"-haired. DOROHY comes from dorcha = dark-haired. BREAC = speckled/freckled. BAWN = white-haired. This Branch-Name is associated with the surnames Downey/Downing, Murphy, O'Neill, Harrington, O'Shea, & Hartnett ---- depending on the particular part of Beara in which you find it. LIAH/LEIGH/LIAGH/LIATH = grey. It is also associated with the surname O'Neill ---- depending on location. BRANCH-NAMES FROM THE CHRISTIAN NAMES OF VARIOUS SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN CHIEFTAINS. --------------------------------------------------------------------- BUAIG comes from the Gaelic word BUADHACH (pronounced Buach) and the Latin word BOETIUS (which was also used late down as a Christian name). Both mean Victorius. McOWEN comes originally from "son of Eoin/Owen" (now translated to Eugene). What was once a Christian name has now become a Branch-Name and has also given rise to the names of two townlands which, over the years, have been looked upon as the names of districts including other smaller townlands, the names of which are beginning to die out: Rossmacowen (the headland, going out into the sea, of Mac Owen) in the Castletownbere Parish, and Kilmacowen (the Church of Mac Owen) in the Eyeries Parish. McAULIFFE (in Beara) comes from son of Amhlaoimh (or Humphrey) O'Sullivan. This branch, known as Sullivan/O'Sullivan (McAuliffe) was later accepted under the surname McAuliffe. MAC CRAITH came from the Branch-Names of Crath/Cra/Crah. The version McGrath was later used as a surname as well. The Branch-Name KEAGH comes from Mac Fineen Duve Keagh O'Sullivan. KEAGH means "blind". Like the original Sullivan/O'Sullivan, an eye had been damaged in battle. There were several Mac Fineen Duve Chieftains, and their territory was mainly around the Direen area in the district of Lauragh, Parish of Tuosist, just across the county bounds in County Kerry. Several of the descendants of the original Chieftain with the Branch-Name KEAGH settled in other parts of South Kerry and all over the Beara Peninsula. Like many of the Chieftains and big landowners of the times, the Mac Fineen Duves practiced what was known as the Droit du Seigneur, the right to do what they liked with their tenants ---- especially if they put their eye on an attractive girl, they would send their bodyguard to the girl's house, or they might even come themselves, to take the girl back to their own mansion for nocturnal "entertainment". If her father refused to let her go to the Chieftain, he could find himself evicted ---- out on the side of the road; lock, stock, and barrel. This power, used and abused by the Chieftains, was also known as Jus Prima Nocte ---- the "Right" of the first night ----the "Right" of the Chieftain to "sleep" (whether she liked it or not) with a bride on the first night of her wedding. Naturally the new husband resented it, but a refusal to hand over his new wife led to eviction. This happened in the case of a man known as "The Bachun" who refused to give up his wife on their wedding night. He was evicted from his little farm in Carriganine, near Lauragh, and came to Ardgroom Village where he spent his time making ropes out of the barks of trees. MACGILLYCUDDY was more on the County Kerry side, but occasionally in the Beara (Co. Cork) side. It was used both as a Sullivan/O'Sullivan Branch-Name and as a surname, and originated from the Gaelic Mac Giolla Mochuda --- the son of the servant of (Saint) Mochuda (or Mochua). St. Mochua founded the monastic settlement of Lismore (County Waterford) in the 7th Century. A man not endowed with the financial riches of the world, his "riches" (as he described them) were his three pets:- a cock, a fly, and a mouse. The cock's job was to wake up St. Mochua in the middle of the night to say the special prayers that needed to be said at that hour. While the Saint was reading the prayers from his manuscript, the fly would follow him along, line by line. Whenever the Saint would stop for a small rest, the fly would stop also and perch on top of that word until the Saint was ready to resume. Then away the fly would go with him along the lines again. But, occasionally, the Saint got very tired from having to get up so many times during the night to pray and, occasionally, he used fall asleep, with his head down on his prayer "book". At this, the little mouse would jump up on the manuscript and give the Saint a "nip" on the ear to wake him up, and once again the four of them would start off across the pages. When his three pets died, the Saint was brokenhearted. He had lost the three greatest friends he had in this world. All his "worldly" wealth was gone. Branch names derived from locations GLANNY comes from the Gaelic gleann = a glen. A Sullivan (GLANNY) man from the Ardgroom district eloped with a local girl all the way to Boston, Mass., many, many years ago. There he set up a Store and named it Navillus, which is Sullivan turned backwards. The Gaelic for Glengarriff (GLEANN GARBH gave rise to the Branch-Name. (GARBH/GARUV is associated with the surname Lynch as well.) VALLIG comes from the Gaelic word Bealach = a passage-way. These VALLIGs lived one time around Ballaghbue, the Gaelic of which is Bealach Baoi, or "the passage-way to Dursey Island". Baoi Bheara = Dursey Island. CLADIG comes from the Gaelic cladach = a seashore. (cois cladaig = by the seashore). CUMMER from cumar = a ravine, usually with a stream. There is a place called Cummers in the townland of Ballydonegan in Allihies Parish. MOUNTAIN is self-evident. BEARNACH/BARNACH comes from bearna= a gap. The next group originated with the names of townlands:- PARK and GOUR (in the parish of Castletownbere); COULAGH, GURTEEN and CROUMPHANE/CROUMHANE (in Eyeries Parish); CURRAGH (in the parishes of Adrigole and Eyeries, and found still in Glengarriff Parish); COOMEEN (from Coomeenshrule in the Bonane area, and Coomeen in Allihies Parish and in Tuosist Parish (in nearby Co. Kerry); and COLLEROS, close to Ardgroom, but across the harbour in Co. Kerry. Some with that Branch-Name settled in the Glengarriff area. ISLAND. Those with that Branch-Name came to Beara originally from Whiddy Island, near Bantry. They settled in the Kilcatherine district of Eyeries Parish, and their children were even put into the Church Records as John ISLAND, Mary ISLAND, etc. Another one of the original brothers settled just outside Kenmare, Co. Kerry, fairly close to Dowras Church (Tuosist Parish). The pub there (a great gathering place for Beara people returning from the cattle and sheep fairs in Kenmare in the olden days) was known far and wide as Denny Island's pub. It is now known as The Sailor's Bar. Branch names derived from adopted names QUILL/QUILLE and WOODS came from the Gaelic word coill = a wood. This branch of Sullivans are said to have spread out from a wooded area of North Kerry. Sullivan MERWICK is now also known with the surname Merwick. The first man to bring the name here came to Beara from County Wicklow about 255 years ago. His descendants settled in Eyeries Parish and in Castletownbere Parish. LOWNEY. What were later known here as Lowneys were originally Sullivans/O'Sullivans who came to Beara from the banks of the River Laune which flows out of the Lakes of Killarney and along through Killorglin in County Kerry. They were put into the early Parish Records as LAUNEY, with the "Y" just added to the name of the River. UONHI/UONEY/OWNEY/UAINE (with a variety of other efforts at spelling it) is possibly the oldest name in Beara. They were an ancient Corca Laoi tribe, some of whom in later years adopted the surname HARRINGTON, but most of whom adopted the surname SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN. UAINE/UAITHNE is an old Gaelic word for green. The word GLAS also means green. From all these came O'Sullivan (UONHI), O'Sullivan (GLAS), O'Sullivan (GREEN), the latter of which is now used as the surname GREEN. I had a great-granduncle Johnny UONHI. Johnny and his wife emigrated to Australia in a sailing ship circa 1855, shortly after the Famine. Their first child, a girl, was born on the ship on the long voyage out. Depending on storms and the many other vagaries of the weather, the journey at the time could take anything up to nine months. Only a few years after arriving in Australia, Johnny's wife died, leaving him with young kids. He went prospecting for gold about 60 miles from Grafton, to the north of Sydney. When he had a bit of money made, he retired from "panning", started a provision store (including some "hooch") and had a little vegetable garden, and reared some hens and chickens to supply the other prospectors. One of his prospector buddies, "Ed", used come in from the "gold-panning" rivers,and sometimes himself and Johnny used celebrate the Feast of St. Patrick, etc., "in liquid and in singing form". Old "Ed" had no calendar, but he was very fond of eggs. So a way around his problem was found. When he would be going back out prospecting let's say for the month of April, he used be given 30 eggs. He ate one egg every day, and he kept the shells. When he wanted to know what day of the month it was, he just counted the shells. 15 shells = April 15th !! Other O'Sullivan branch names SUONISH means peaceful, tranquil, easy-going. A Crohur Suonish one time expressed his unhappiness with a few of his neighbours in the following terms: "They are jealous of me because they cannot display the lofty traits of character which I possess". SHEARHIG/SHEARIG. It is thought that it comes from the Gaelic for Geoffrey/Jeffrey which is Seafra (pronounced "sheafra"). Geoffrey/Jeffrey was a name often associated wiyj the Shearhigs in the olden days. CLUOSY comes from cluas = an ear, though the connotation is not clear. COORNEENAGH is a Branch-Name that came in from the Tuosist Parish. The jury is still out as to the origins of the Branch-Names BACHELOR, CHANCE, and GOUGH. GOUGH/GOFF is now also used as a surname in Glengarriff Parish. BOY/GARSOON. Garsun (pron. Garsoon) is the Gaelic for a boy. Oftentimes a father would call to his son:"Come here to me boy", or "Come here to me garsoon". O'Sullivan DEEL/DOYLE. At times, especially with O'Sullivans, it used happen that when a father died young, the children were given the surname or the Branch-Name of the mother. Some of these families had moved from O'Sullivan to O'Sullivan (DOYLE), and later to DOYLE. Somewhat similar happened in the case of an O'Sullivan (SHEARHIG) man from the Eyeries Parish who married an O'Sullivan (DOROHY) woman from Feoras in the Tuosist Parish. He died a young man, and there were so many Shearhigs in his locality that the local people now called his children the Dorohys, after the mother's Branch-Name. And so those now known in Eyeries Parish as Dorohys were originally Shearhigs. GAORACH/GAORTHAIGH comes from the Gaelic for a (wooded) river valley. GOULA, a Branch-Name in the Bonane district, comes from Gall = a foreigner. But, like alot of things here, it doesn't mean what it seems to mean. This was a section of Sullivans who came from Tipperary and arrived in Bonane later than the others, so they were looked upon as "foreigners" by the crowd who came and settled down in Bonane before them !! The Sullivan Branch-Names McTIGUE (son of Timothy) and McSHANE/MISHEAN (son of John) came in the early days of the Allihies copper mines. HURRIG could have come from one of two things. Corrach (possessive case Corraigh) = uneven, marshy ground. The term CHURRAIGH (pronounced like HURRIG) was also spoken to swine when driving them, in the same way as you would say "tuk-tuk" when calling hens to feed them, or "reis" (pronounced reysh) when "asking" a cow to stay steady while you are trying to milk her. SKILTY comes from the word scil = skill. DUDLEY could have come from either a Christian name or a surname, but it became an O'Sullivan Branch-Name, especially in Dursey Island (Allihies Parish). Take the case of a brother and sister there. Quinlan was recorded as Sullivan for his Baptism and as Dudley for his marriage. Anna was recorded as Dudley for her Baptism, and as Sullivan Dudley for her marriage. Is it any wonder that a fellow can get lifting headaches trying to sort them all out !!. BISHOP. The Bishop of Kerry one time was on his rounds of paying visits to the Primary Schools in his Diocese and was due to call to a school in the Glengarriff Parish. It was, naturally, a big occasion for the children, and they were all excited and keeping a watch out the window for the arrival of the important visitor. Just about the time the Bishop was expected, a local man happened to go past the window fairly fast. One of the scholars, whether from excitement or "devilment", as soon as he saw the shadow passing the school window, shouted to the Master "Sir ! Sir ! The Bishop is coming !". And so the local man was duly "christened" the "Bishop". CAIRDE (pronounced Caw-ir-deh) comes from the Gaelic cairdiuil = friendly. SHANDON goes back to the times when people from Beara used do the three-day round journey bringing firkins of butter up in the "horses and carts" to the butter market in Cork City. An O'Sullivan man from Eyeries Parish boasted that his horse was the only horse from home who could pull a load of butter all the way to the market at the top of Shandon Street. And so he was duly christened SHANDON. SHAMROCK. Another man from the same townland was on his way to Cork City with his horse and cart and his load of butter. To "break" the journey to the City, the buttermen used stop for the first night up on the mountainside between Kilgarvan, Co. Kerry, and Coolea (near Ballyvourney), Co. Cork. This particular man used bring with him a bag of grass, mixed with shamrock, to feed his horse. One night, while our man was asleep, somebody came along and stole the bag of grass and shamrock. When our butter-cart driver got up early the next morning to find the bag gone, he ran out around the yard shouting "Who stole my shamrock ?". And so another Branch-Name was added to the O'Sullivans ----- as if there weren't enough there before !! Tradition also has it that the DOWNEYS (also sometimes known as DOWNINGS) were originally O'Sullivans who came here from Co. Kerry. GASTA = fast, smart (neat and tidy), clever (quick to learn). RIOCH (from Riochas ---- pronounced Reeochas) = Royalty. DRUMMOND comes from the word droimeann = a white-backed cow. BARRUIL/BARRULE - opinionated; having an opinion on many things/happenings. RABACH (pronounced Rawbuck) = bold, dashing, unrestrained to the point of recklessness. CUMBA/CUMBAW/COMBOY/COMEBOY is said to have originated with a section of Sullivans from Beara and South Kerry who fought as part of the Irish Brigade in the French army about 300 years ago. Combat (pronounced Cumba) is, or so I am told, the French word for fight ---- the same meaning as the English word combat. A few years ago I came across the name COMBO which was being used as a surname in a part of Montana. I said to myself "This surely must have been, at one time, the Branch-Name CUMBA/CUMBAW". So, as it is my wont when something is puzzling me, I got stuck in. I searched and searched ---- and eventually I found them. They were people from the Allihies Parish who had gone out mining to Butte, and later moved further north in Montana.

Hi Brian, all, "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> writes: > Also, is there a list of the Beara Sullivan Branch-Names anywhere? If you look through the archives of the Beara mailing list you can find posts about O'Sullivan branch names. The archives can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=beara I'll dig through my saved e-mail later on today and see if I can find the messages I saved the last time Riobard posted about branch names. Best, -- Bill

Riobard, Have you published an Adrigole Parish book? Also, is there a list of the Beara Sullivan Branch-Names anywhere? My father told me that his family was known as Conflur in Kealagowlane, but I don't know if that actually counts as a Branch-Name; I think it's a combination of my great-grandfather's and great-great-grandfather's first names, Cornelius and Florence. Thanks, Brian O'Sullivan ________________________________________ From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer [beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net] Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 11:16 AM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] looking for information on o'sullivan/sullivan Alot of information can be found in my book "Who were my Ancestors ? Bere Island Parish". They were of the Branch-Name Seers. Riobard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "margaret stein" <maggiern99@hotmail.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: [BEARA] looking for information on o'sullivan/sullivan i am trying to find information on peter o'sullivan b. 1872 arrived in USA 1887, lived in San Fransisco came from bera island son of mike o'sullivan and Margaret McCarthy was married to honora Sullivan b. 1878 came to USA 1888, and lived in san fransisco, had 3 sons james, john and keven, because of the 1906 earthquake, I have no record of marrage, and birth of the sons, is there anyone related to them that can fill in the blanks honora marie sullivan parents? Peter P O'sullivan parents birth and death? any help would be apperaceated \ Thank you Margaret M _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If you get an exact match with someone, depending on how many markers it is, they can statistically estimate how recent your shared ancestor is. You can list your results with a surname project ---there is a Sullivan project--and can see how many exact or close matches you have and what geographic area the place of origin is origin is.It can literally be an exact match or within a few generations. We have one very close Sullivan match so far, 35 out of 37 markers match. The match knows his great grandfather's date of immigration (similar to our Eugene, except his folk came to Philadelphia, not New York), his Irish ggrandfather's first name, and place of origin in Bantry. At this level of match, we likely share an ancestor within another few generations. So he's clearly a cousin, but we don't know at what level and who the actual common ancestor is. A closer match or a match with someone who can link to his or our Irish born ancestors is needed. The other really kool thing is that DNA will eventually allow the tracing of various 'trends" within population movements, so once enough SUllivans are tested it should show the migration and spread of the clan and its subsepts throughout Kerry, and Beara., Probably a long way in the future though. Marge Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >I haven't done this yet, but might. I'm glad you posted about it--I hadn't >realized how accessible this kind of testing has become. > > Can it really be used to establish connections as "recent" as different > groups of Sullivans, though? The NG Human Journey Genographic Project > website > (https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html) > seems to say that it's good for finding out your "deep ancestry," or where > your ancestors were thousands of years ago, but not for "learn[ing] about > your great-grandparents or other recent relatives," as they put it. > However, the site also says that where your family is from affects how > detailed your results are; have you found that the test gives more recent > information for people with Irish ancestry? > > Brian > ________________________________________ > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > Marge Sullivan [hjmcs@optonline.net] > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:01 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > Has any of your family group had Y-DNA tested through National Geographic > Human Journey Project or one of the independent labs doing this? > > If you have, contact me off-list and we can compare markers. This can > tell > us if we are the same general Sullivan branch and how many generations > back > we are likely to have shared an ancestor. > > Marge (hjcmcs@optonline.net) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:58 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a >> connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan >> descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and >> sisters) >> and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before >> mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as >> being >> same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus >> contacted me as well. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >>> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >>> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >>> >>> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota >>> Springs >>> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time >>> of >>> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >>> from >>> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that >>> Cornelius >>> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >>> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >>> >>> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >>> but >>> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >>> >>> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >>> were >>> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >>> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >>> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >>> laborer >>> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >>> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >>> and >>> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >>> if >>> these are our people or not >>> >>> Any of this suggest a connection? >>> >>> Marge Sullivan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>>> Mortimer. >>>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>>> have >>>> as >>>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>>> on >>>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>>> group. >>>> He >>>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>>> one >>>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>>> many >>>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Brian: >>>>> Hi Brian: >>>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, >>>>> John >>>>> and >>>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>>> border >>>>> in >>>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>>> it >>>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>>> >>>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>>> >>>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>>> I've >>>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone >>>>>> else >>>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of >>>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shelia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>>> checked >>>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>>> > more >>>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>>> > the >>>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>>> > Census. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? 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Lurene The earliest born Florence Sullivan tied to my line is Florence J Sullivan b 1826 in Glengariff. He died 11/26/1883 in saratoga Springs NY. He was m to Margaret McNulty. He had 8 kids that I know of Julia, Ellen, Catherine, Michael, Daniel P, Peter Arthur, Florence J and Charles A. All kids to my knowledge born in NY. The Peter Arthur was the father of Edward Vincent Sullivan. Florence m Margaret in Saratoga on 11/6/1853. Julia appears to have been the oldest and b 1855. This makes this Florence and Margaret s children based on date of marriage unlikely to be parents of your Mary, who you have marrying in 1868...and probably at least b by 1850. However Florence could have had a prior wife??? You never know. this Florence owned a shoe shop in Saratoga Springs, and worked as a leather worker for the Erie Canal. Also since the names in the Sullivan families keep repeating, obviously may be another earlier Florence too...... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lurene Scott" <reney@san.rr.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > John, I have a Florence Sullivan in my DONAHUE genealogy. He was from > the > Glengariff area, and was the father of Mary SULLIVAN who married my > Ggrandfather Florence DONAHUE in Providence 1868. I might add, I'm > always > on the look our for Mortimer Sullivans. Florence and Mary had a son named > Mortimer. I have always felt it came from the SULLIVAN family, but of > course, have no proof. Would like to think we might have some common > ground. > Lurene > > > > From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >> Mortimer. >> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we have >> as >> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married on >> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your group. >> He >> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >> one >> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >> many >> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

i am trying to find information on peter o'sullivan b. 1872 arrived in USA 1887, lived in San Fransisco came from bera island son of mike o'sullivan and Margaret McCarthy was married to honora Sullivan b. 1878 came to USA 1888, and lived in san fransisco, had 3 sons james, john and keven, because of the 1906 earthquake, I have no record of marrage, and birth of the sons, is there anyone related to them that can fill in the blanks honora marie sullivan parents? Peter P O'sullivan parents birth and death? any help would be apperaceated \ Thank you Margaret M _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage_062009

I haven't done this yet, but might. I'm glad you posted about it--I hadn't realized how accessible this kind of testing has become. Can it really be used to establish connections as "recent" as different groups of Sullivans, though? The NG Human Journey Genographic Project website (https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/participate.html) seems to say that it's good for finding out your "deep ancestry," or where your ancestors were thousands of years ago, but not for "learn[ing] about your great-grandparents or other recent relatives," as they put it. However, the site also says that where your family is from affects how detailed your results are; have you found that the test gives more recent information for people with Irish ancestry? Brian ________________________________________ From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Marge Sullivan [hjmcs@optonline.net] Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:01 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane Has any of your family group had Y-DNA tested through National Geographic Human Journey Project or one of the independent labs doing this? If you have, contact me off-list and we can compare markers. This can tell us if we are the same general Sullivan branch and how many generations back we are likely to have shared an ancestor. Marge (hjcmcs@optonline.net) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a > connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan > descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and sisters) > and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before > mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as > being > same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus > contacted me as well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >> >> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs >> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of >> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >> from >> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius >> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >> >> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >> but >> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >> >> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >> were >> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >> laborer >> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >> and >> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >> if >> these are our people or not >> >> Any of this suggest a connection? >> >> Marge Sullivan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>> Mortimer. >>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>> have >>> as >>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>> on >>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>> group. >>> He >>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>> one >>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>> many >>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>> Dear Brian: >>>> Hi Brian: >>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >>>> and >>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>> border >>>> in >>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>> it >>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>> >>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>> >>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>> I've >>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Shelia >>>>>> >>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>> checked >>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>> They >>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>> > more >>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>> > Census. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >>>>>> >> free.) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Description: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Web site: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> >> quotes >>>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> > quotes >>>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>> >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

They are two different people of different family branches talking about their shared collateral, not direct, ancestors. You could easily correspond with a grand-descendant of your great grandmothers brother. See below: gr grandmother A has a brother B Descendants are: A1 B1 A2 parent B2 is the grandchild A3 is the great-grandchild, talking to B2, grandchild of gr grandmother's cousin. Aand B are Sibs. A1, B1 are first cousins, A2, B2 are second cousins. A3 is a second cousin once removed from B2. Thats how it can work. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "beth glaser" <eaglaser@ix.netcom.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > How can a g grandmother and her grandfather be brother and sister? Just > real > curious. > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a >> connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan >> descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and >> sisters) >> and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before >> mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as >> being >> same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus >> contacted me as well. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >>> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >>> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >>> >>> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota >>> Springs >>> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time >>> of >>> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >>> from >>> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that >>> Cornelius >>> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >>> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >>> >>> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >>> but >>> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >>> >>> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >>> were >>> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >>> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >>> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >>> laborer >>> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >>> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >>> and >>> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >>> if >>> these are our people or not >>> >>> Any of this suggest a connection? >>> >>> Marge Sullivan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>>> Mortimer. >>>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>>> have >>>> as >>>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>>> on >>>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>>> group. >>>> He >>>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>>> one >>>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>>> many >>>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Brian: >>>>> Hi Brian: >>>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, >>>>> John >>>>> and >>>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>>> border >>>>> in >>>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>>> it >>>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>>> >>>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>>> >>>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>>> I've >>>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone >>>>>> else >>>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of >>>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shelia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>>> checked >>>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>>> > more >>>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>>> > the >>>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>>> > Census. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This >>>>>>> >> is >>>>>>> >> free.) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Description: >>>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Web site: >>>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> quotes >>>>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>> > quotes >>>>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>> quotes >>>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Wow--that sounds like one of those logic puzzle questions! If John's grandfather and the other Sullivan descendant's great grandmother were brother and sister, what does that make John and the other Sullivan? Third cousins once removed? Brian ________________________________________ From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of beth glaser [eaglaser@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:05 PM To: beara@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane How can a g grandmother and her grandfather be brother and sister? Just real curious. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a > connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan > descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and sisters) > and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before > mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as > being > same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus > contacted me as well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >> >> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs >> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of >> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >> from >> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius >> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >> >> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >> but >> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >> >> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >> were >> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >> laborer >> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >> and >> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >> if >> these are our people or not >> >> Any of this suggest a connection? >> >> Marge Sullivan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>> Mortimer. >>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>> have >>> as >>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>> on >>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>> group. >>> He >>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>> one >>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>> many >>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>> Dear Brian: >>>> Hi Brian: >>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >>>> and >>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>> border >>>> in >>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>> it >>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>> >>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>> >>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>> I've >>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Shelia >>>>>> >>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>> checked >>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>> They >>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>> > more >>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>> > Census. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >>>>>> >> free.) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Description: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Web site: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> >> quotes >>>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> > quotes >>>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>> >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guess I should have made this clearer. My g grandmother was Abby Sullivan. Her older brother was Cornelius Sullivan. Cornelius was the grandfather of the other girl....Mary A. Mary A and I are a generation apart....but descend from a Denis Sullivan...father of Cornelius and his sister Abby( as well as a number of other siblings). That would make Mary A and I 2nd cousins 1x removed. ----- Original Message ----- From: "beth glaser" <eaglaser@ix.netcom.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:05 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > How can a g grandmother and her grandfather be brother and sister? Just > real > curious. > Beth > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:58 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a >> connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan >> descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and >> sisters) >> and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before >> mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as >> being >> same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus >> contacted me as well. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >>> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >>> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >>> >>> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota >>> Springs >>> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time >>> of >>> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >>> from >>> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that >>> Cornelius >>> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >>> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >>> >>> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >>> but >>> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >>> >>> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >>> were >>> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >>> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >>> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >>> laborer >>> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >>> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >>> and >>> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >>> if >>> these are our people or not >>> >>> Any of this suggest a connection? >>> >>> Marge Sullivan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>>> Mortimer. >>>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>>> have >>>> as >>>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>>> on >>>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>>> group. >>>> He >>>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>>> one >>>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>>> many >>>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Dear Brian: >>>>> Hi Brian: >>>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, >>>>> John >>>>> and >>>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>>> border >>>>> in >>>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>>> it >>>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>>> >>>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>>> >>>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>>> I've >>>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone >>>>>> else >>>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>>> Behalf >>>>>> Of >>>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sheila >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Shelia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>>> checked >>>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>>> They >>>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>>> > more >>>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>>> > the >>>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>>> > Census. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This >>>>>>> >> is >>>>>>> >> free.) >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Description: >>>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Web site: >>>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>>>>> >> the >>>>>>> >> quotes >>>>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>> > quotes >>>>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>>> quotes >>>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Has any of your family group had Y-DNA tested through National Geographic Human Journey Project or one of the independent labs doing this? If you have, contact me off-list and we can compare markers. This can tell us if we are the same general Sullivan branch and how many generations back we are likely to have shared an ancestor. Marge (hjcmcs@optonline.net) ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a > connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan > descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and sisters) > and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before > mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as > being > same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus > contacted me as well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >> >> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs >> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of >> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >> from >> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius >> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >> >> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >> but >> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >> >> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >> were >> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >> laborer >> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >> and >> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >> if >> these are our people or not >> >> Any of this suggest a connection? >> >> Marge Sullivan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>> Mortimer. >>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>> have >>> as >>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>> on >>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>> group. >>> He >>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>> one >>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>> many >>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>> Dear Brian: >>>> Hi Brian: >>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >>>> and >>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>> border >>>> in >>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>> it >>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>> >>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>> >>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>> I've >>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Shelia >>>>>> >>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>> checked >>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>> They >>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>> > more >>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>> > Census. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >>>>>> >> free.) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Description: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Web site: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> >> quotes >>>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> > quotes >>>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>> >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

It took me a while to find my grandmother (Helena Regan, daughter of Con and Nora Regan). There were no Regan/Reagans listed in Kilcaskan and no there is District Electoral Division of Adrigole. When I searched for the townland of ADRigole I found the DED has been transcribed as ARDigole. - A Google search for Ardigole gets quite a few hits. Are Adrigole and Ardigole really interchangeable?? ?? - I know that "Ard-" means "High-" in Gaelic (and presumably in Irish), so many placenames in hilly areas of Scotland and Ireland do start with "Ard-".? What is the meaning of the placename Adrigole? As for the names, Cornelius was enumerated with the abbreviation Cors. and transcribed as Cors; Nora was enumerated as Hanora; Rita was enumerated as Marg. (for Margarita I assume) but transcribed as Mary and Helena was transcribed as Helene. - one daughter was Marg. and another was Maggie.? - My great-grandparents townland was enumerated as Inchintagglin, but has been transcribed as Inchintaglin, which seems the modern spelling. Jim McGregor

How can a g grandmother and her grandfather be brother and sister? Just real curious. Beth ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a > connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan > descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and sisters) > and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before > mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as > being > same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus > contacted me as well. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota >> Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of >> Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. >> >> As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs >> with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of >> Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone >> from >> Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius >> may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a >> fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. >> >> I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, >> but >> don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. >> >> Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and >> were >> connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period >> 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. >> Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as >> laborer >> in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, >> specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) >> and >> then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know >> if >> these are our people or not >> >> Any of this suggest a connection? >> >> Marge Sullivan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >>> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >>> Mortimer. >>> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we >>> have >>> as >>> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married >>> on >>> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your >>> group. >>> He >>> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >>> one >>> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >>> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >>> many >>> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>> Dear Brian: >>>> Hi Brian: >>>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >>>> and >>>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara >>>> border >>>> in >>>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so >>>> it >>>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>>> >>>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>>> Have you ever done DNA? >>>> >>>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>>> I've >>>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On >>>>> Behalf >>>>> Of >>>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sheila >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> Shelia >>>>>> >>>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>>> checked >>>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>>> They >>>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>>> >>>>>> Good Luck >>>>>> Pat >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>>> > more >>>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>>> > the >>>>>> > 1911 >>>>>> > Census. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Sheila >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >>>>>> >> free.) >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Description: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Web site: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> >> quotes >>>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> > >>>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> > quotes >>>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>>> quotes >>>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>>> >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I wanted to provide an update on the Tade O'Sullivan family from Adrigole townland. We recently found our Florence O'Sullivan in NSW Australia. The children of Timothy and Brighid O'Sullivan were: (1) Florence (Flor) O'Sullivan born in 1856 and immigrated to Australia probably with his brother Jeremiah around 1883. Sometime in 1892, Flor was admitted to a mental hospital where he resided until his death in 1924. (2) Jeremiah O'Sullivan born in 1858. Immigrated to Sydney Australia in about 1883. Died Aug 13, 1936 in Ben Lomond, NSW, Australia. Has descendants living in Australia. (3) Mary O'Sullivan born in 1861. Mary immigrated to the United States and was living in Granville NY in 1900. Mary died Dec 7 1929 in Granville NY. Has descendants living in the Washington DC area. (4) Margaret Sullivan born in 1864. Don't know what happened to Margaret, but she may have immigrated to the United States. She was apparently not alive in 1917 as she does not appear in my g-grandmother's obituary. (5) John "Jack" O'Sullivan born in 1867. John stayed in Adrigole and inherited the family farm. Jack died March 17, 1950 in Adrigole. Has descendants living in Adrigole and in Connecticut. (6) Michael T Sullivan born in 1870. Michael migrated to Boston, Massachusetts in about 1893. Died Oct 23, 1958 in Boston. Descendants are still in the Boston area. (7) Denis Sullivan born in 1873. Denis migrated to Boston, Massachusetts as well - but I have no information on him. (8) Catharine Sullivan born in 1878. Catharine migrated to Granville NY (to live) with Mary in 1902. Catharine died Feb 8, 1917 in Ossining, NY. Descendants are mostly in the Boston area. I have more info on Jeremiah, Flor, Mary, Jack, Michael and Catharine. Looking for info on Margaret and Dennis.

John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone from Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, but don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and were connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as laborer in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) and then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know if these are our people or not Any of this suggest a connection? Marge Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the > Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and > Mortimer. > My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we have > as > born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married on > 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your group. > He > had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, one > named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J > Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so many > years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> Dear Brian: >> Hi Brian: >> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >> and >> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara border >> in >> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so it >> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >> >> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >> Any marriage connections with Connor? >> Have you ever done DNA? >> >> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>> I've >>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Brian O'Sullivan >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >>> Of >>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>> >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> >>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>> >>> >>> >>> Sheila >>> >>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>> >>>> Shelia >>>> >>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>> checked >>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>> They >>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>> >>>> Good Luck >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>> >>>> >>>> > >>>> > Hi Susan >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>> > more >>>> > when I get some free time. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at the >>>> > 1911 >>>> > Census. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Sheila >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>> >> >>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >>>> >> free.) >>>> >> >>>> >> Description: >>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>> >> >>>> >> Web site: >>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>> >> >>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>> >> >>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> >> quotes >>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> > >>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------- >>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> > quotes >>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>> >>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Yes I have been in touch with Kathleen K....and we are cousins who made a connection several years ago. It certainly seems to fit. Another Sullivan descendant (my g grandmother and her grandfather were brother and sisters) and I have made connection, and her Sullivans line came to America before mine did and settled in Ma. She had recognized my g g grandparents as being same as her g grandparents and from same area of Ireland....and thus contacted me as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > John: Are you in contact w/Kathleen K, a descendant of Florence/Sarasota > Springs Sullivans? We both believe it is possible that Sullivans of > Sarasota Springs could be this family, but so far no proof. > > As yet no definitive way to connect Florence and John of Sarasota Springs > with Florence, John, Cornelius and Mortimer of Reendisert at the time of > Griffiths 1851/1852--- perhaps til now. All these Sullivans are gone from > Reendissert by 1858, presumably to America. It is possible that Cornelius > may have built boats, Florence may have been a tanner and there was a > fishery operating at Reendisert during this period and afterward. > > I also have a Eugene Sullivan, blacksmith of Glengariff in this period, > but > don't have a way of connecting him to any of the others. > > Our line of Sullivans has names running toward Daniel and Eugene, and were > connected with Reendissert, Barnagearagh, and Dromkeal in the period > 1862-1889. They moved around in this period as the family grew larger. > Eugene Sullivan , did not seem to have a trade, but lists himself as > laborer > in various records. I have Eugene and family emigrating to America, > specifically Port Amsterdam 1889-1890 (not far from Sarasota Springs) > and > then I lose them. Eldest son Daniel possibly preceeded them. Don't know if > these are our people or not > > Any of this suggest a connection? > > Marge Sullivan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 5:27 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >>I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the >> Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and >> Mortimer. >> My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we have >> as >> born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married on >> 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your group. >> He >> had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, >> one >> named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J >> Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so >> many >> years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >> >> >>> Dear Brian: >>> Hi Brian: >>> We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John >>> and >>> Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara border >>> in >>> 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from >>> Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and >>> Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so it >>> could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. >>> >>> These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. >>> Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I >>> suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. >>> Any marriage connections with Connor? >>> Have you ever done DNA? >>> >>> Marge and Dennis Sullivan >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM >>> Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >>>> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >>>> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >>>> I've >>>> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >>>> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >>>> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Brian O'Sullivan >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >>>> Of >>>> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >>>> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>> >>>> Pat >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sheila >>>> >>>>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>>>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> Shelia >>>>> >>>>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>>>> checked >>>>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>>>> They >>>>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>>>> >>>>> Good Luck >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>>>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > >>>>> > Hi Susan >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>>>> > more >>>>> > when I get some free time. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at >>>>> > the >>>>> > 1911 >>>>> > Census. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > Sheila >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>>>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>>>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>>>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >>>>> >> free.) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Description: >>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Web site: >>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Search the 1911 census: >>>>> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ------------------------------- >>>>> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> >> quotes >>>>> >> in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> > >>>>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>>>> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >>>>> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>>> > >>>>> > ------------------------------- >>>>> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> > quotes >>>>> > in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>>> quotes >>>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. >>>> >>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>>> quotes >>>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

John, I have a Florence Sullivan in my DONAHUE genealogy. He was from the Glengariff area, and was the father of Mary SULLIVAN who married my Ggrandfather Florence DONAHUE in Providence 1868. I might add, I'm always on the look our for Mortimer Sullivans. Florence and Mary had a son named Mortimer. I have always felt it came from the SULLIVAN family, but of course, have no proof. Would like to think we might have some common ground. Lurene From: "John Conway" <fritzi1@tulsaconnect.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 2:27 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane >I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the > Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and > Mortimer. > My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we have > as > born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married on > 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your group. > He > had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, one > named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J > Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so many > years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John > ----- Original Message -----

Dear Brian: Hi Brian: We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John and Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara border in 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so it could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. Any marriage connections with Connor? Have you ever done DNA? Marge and Dennis Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; > according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius > Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. I've > been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence > Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else > come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? > > Thanks, > Brian O'Sullivan > ________________________________________ > From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM > To: beara@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork > > Pat > > > > It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one > > > > Sheila > >> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >> >> Shelia >> >> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I checked >> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. They >> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >> >> Good Luck >> Pat >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >> >> >> > >> > Hi Susan >> > >> > >> > >> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for more >> > when I get some free time. >> > >> > >> > >> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >> > >> > >> > >> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at the >> > 1911 >> > Census. >> > >> > >> > >> > Once again thank you for this information. >> > >> > >> > >> > Sheila >> > >> > >> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >> >> >> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? (This is >> >> free.) >> >> >> >> Description: >> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/about/newcounties.html >> >> >> >> Web site: >> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/ >> >> >> >> Search the 1911 census: >> >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> >> quotes >> >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > Get the best of MSN on your mobile >> > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ >> > >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> > quotes >> > in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I have noticed with interest the messages on the Sullivan s from the Cork/Beara border with the names of Florence, Cornelius, John and Mortimer. My Sullivan came from this same area. One named Florence Sullivan we have as born in Glengariff area of Cork in 1826. He came to the US and married on 11/6/1853 in Saratoga Springs NY. This would more or less fit your group. He had brothers John, Peter, Michael Emmett , as well as several cousins, one named Cornelius as well.(which is my line).This particular Florence J Sullivan was the grandfather of Edward Vincent Sullivan of tv fame so many years ago. Could this be the same group of Sullivans???? John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marge Sullivan" <hjmcs@optonline.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > Dear Brian: > Hi Brian: > We have been interested in a Sullivan group: Cornelius, Florence, John > and > Mortimer who were listed renting lots in Reendisert on Cork/Beara border > in > 1852, but who were gone from that place by 1858. This is not far from > Adrigole, but they may not be the same individuals. Still Adrigole and > Reendisert are all part of Sullivan Beare ancestral land holdings, so it > could be possible that they are related to yours, if not same persons. > > These individuals would likely have have birth dates in the 1830s. > Cornelius and Mortimer have adjacent lots, as do Florence and John. I > suspect they may all be related in some way, but have no proof. > Any marriage connections with Connor? > Have you ever done DNA? > > Marge and Dennis Sullivan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "O'Sullivan, Brian P" <bposullivan@smcm.edu> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:40 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Con or Florence Sullivan in Kealagowlane > > >> Thanks for posting the 1911 Census. I think I found my family in it; >> according to the census form I found, my great grandfather Cornelius >> Sullivan--living in Kealagowlane, Adrigole in 1911--was born in 1839. >> I've >> been told that his father was named Florence, and there is a Florence >> Sullivan in the Griffith's Valuation for Kealagowlane. Has anyone else >> come across this Con or Flor in their family histories? >> >> Thanks, >> Brian O'Sullivan >> ________________________________________ >> From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf >> Of >> sheila legge [sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk] >> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 3:17 PM >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >> >> Pat >> >> >> >> It's the 1911 English Census you have to pay for not the Irish one >> >> >> >> Sheila >> >>> From: Mpdsull@verizon.net >>> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 18:25:02 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>> >>> Shelia >>> >>> Check again about the payment. The Irish National Archives site I >>> checked >>> made no mention of a fee. The 1911 Census covers the entire country. >>> They >>> are also working on putting up the 1901 census. >>> >>> Good Luck >>> Pat >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "sheila legge" <sheilalegge3@hotmail.co.uk> >>> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 1:52 PM >>> Subject: Re: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Hi Susan >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I have found my Grand Parents on my Dads side am going to look for >>> > more >>> > when I get some free time. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Do you know if there are any other Beara Census on line? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I live in Cheshire England and we have to pay 30 units to look at the >>> > 1911 >>> > Census. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Once again thank you for this information. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Sheila >>> > >>> > >>> >> Date: Sat, 30 May 2009 21:27:15 -0500 >>> >> From: cullivans@gmail.com >>> >> To: beara@rootsweb.com >>> >> Subject: [BEARA] 1911 Census online for Cork >>> >> >>> >> Has anyone looked at this census yet for Beara relatives? 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