Hi All Legacy gives a pretty good version free and the upgrade to the full version is $30 USD if you decide you want all the bells and whistles http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/ I have been using the free version for 3 years and am quite happy Thomas Sullivan ________________________________ From: Bill Gawne <gawne@cesmail.net> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, October 24, 2009 7:44:55 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] best family tree software > can anyone recommend one Hi, I use the Personal Ancestral File software that the Mormons developed.    It's available for free at http://www.familysearch.org/eng/paf/ There are prettier packages available that you have to pay for, and  online java based packages that start out free and then charge you  money after you hit a certain threshold of usage.  They all have their  pros and cons.  I've found the PAF software to be best for my uses. Best, Bill Gawne pinkpagoda@aol.com writes: > i created a simple family tree using a software at my workplace meant > for doing organizational charts.  it's served me up to now but now i > want a real family tree program to help me maintain all the new family > information i am getting.  can anyone recommend a software or should i > join something like ancestry.com?  there are so many choices out there. >  i don't want to make the wrong choice.  thank you. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the  > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Bill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

i created a simple family tree using a software at my workplace meant for doing organizational charts. it's served me up to now but now i want a real family tree program to help me maintain all the new family information i am getting. can anyone recommend a software or should i join something like ancestry.com? there are so many choices out there. i don't want to make the wrong choice. thank you.

Hi there. I'm sure you will get lots of suggestions. I use Brothers Keeper which can be downloaded free from the internet. Simply Google the name and the website should come up. It is easy to use and offers most functions you would need. Best wishes, Patsy - New Zealand : From: pinkpagoda@aol.com <pinkpagoda@aol.com> Subject: [BEARA] best family tree software > can anyone recommend one To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com Received: Sunday, 25 October, 2009, 9:14 AM i created a simple family tree using a software at my workplace meant for doing organizational charts.  it's served me up to now but now i want a real family tree program to help me maintain all the new family information i am getting.  can anyone recommend a software or should i join something like ancestry.com?  there are so many choices out there. i don't want to make the wrong choice.  thank you. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

All best wishes to you and the family Riobard. Always grateful for what you have done for me and mine (and so many others). Without your help I would not have made connections with those lovely relatives in Ardgroom, nor would my children have met their children. Again I wish you well. Regards, Patsy - New Zealand --- On Sat, 24/10/09, Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> wrote: From: Riobard O'Dwyer <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> Subject: [BEARA] Genealogy To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com Received: Saturday, 24 October, 2009, 11:23 PM I would like to let you know that the next six months I will be unable to answer any of your emails or carry out research. Thanking you for your understanding, Riobard O' Dwyer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for all you have already done. May you and yours be safe and sound. Lisa O'Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: beara-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beara-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Riobard O'Dwyer Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:24 AM To: Beara-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEARA] Genealogy I would like to let you know that the next six months I will be unable to answer any of your emails or carry out research. Thanking you for your understanding, Riobard O' Dwyer. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I would like to let you know that the next six months I will be unable to answer any of your emails or carry out research. Thanking you for your understanding, Riobard O' Dwyer.

Riobard, Best wishes for your health and happiness. Kevin in MO great grandson of "PD" Kelly of Beara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riobard O'Dwyer" <beararesearchodwyer@eircom.net> To: <Beara-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 5:23 AM Subject: [BEARA] Genealogy >I would like to let you know that the next six months I will be unable to >answer any of your emails or carry out research. > > Thanking you for your understanding, > > > > > Riobard O' Dwyer. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.27/2453 - Release Date: 10/23/09 06:56:00

I stand corrected. Good sleuthing---thia is a great link to bookmark! Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gawne" <gawne@cesmail.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:17 AM Subject: [BEARA] Inconsistent Hobgoblins (was More Sullivan and Murphy research) > Marge Sullivan <hjmcs@optonline.net> writes: > > (About the origin of the phrase, "Consistency is the hobgoblin of > small minds," which I had attributed to Oscar Wilde.) > >> Actually no: It was Walt Whitman. > > Inspired by Marge, I looked around the web. It seems the phrase > originated with Ralph Waldo Emerson, according to Bartleby's Directory > of Quotations. > > http://www.bartleby.com/100/420.47.html > > Apparently several other authors, Walt Whitman included, considered > the idea worthy enough to borrow. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Marge Sullivan <hjmcs@optonline.net> writes: (About the origin of the phrase, "Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds," which I had attributed to Oscar Wilde.) > Actually no: It was Walt Whitman. Inspired by Marge, I looked around the web. It seems the phrase originated with Ralph Waldo Emerson, according to Bartleby's Directory of Quotations. http://www.bartleby.com/100/420.47.html Apparently several other authors, Walt Whitman included, considered the idea worthy enough to borrow. -- Bill

Actually no: It was Walt Whitman. Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gawne" <gawne@cesmail.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research > Hi Terry, all, > > Terry <barnes149@comcast.net> writes: > >> As I am just beginning to learn here, could someone explain why >> everything I >> find including Riobards books shows Kilmackowen, Eyeries Parish, Cork, >> Ireland. But when I look up the Griffiths Valuation records they show >> Barony:Bear, Union:Castletown, Townland:Kilmackowen, and Parish: >> Kilcatherine. > > Sure, and wasn't it Oscar Wilde who said, "consistency is the > hobgoblin of small minds?" > > Truth be told, I have no blessed idea why they're different. Perhaps > Riobard can explain it, or perhaps another of the list members who > knows the ins and outs of the Irish system of creating political > subdivisions will be able to enlighten us. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I was recently there, and someone explained to me that the original parish church was on Kilcatherine Point until 1824 when it was moved to the village of Eyeries. The ruins of the original church are stunning and a cemetery is in and around the ruins. The "newer" church is a lovely yellow structure that looks like it could have been built in Mission Viejo.

Hi Terry, all, Terry <barnes149@comcast.net> writes: > As I am just beginning to learn here, could someone explain why everything I > find including Riobards books shows Kilmackowen, Eyeries Parish, Cork, > Ireland. But when I look up the Griffiths Valuation records they show > Barony:Bear, Union:Castletown, Townland:Kilmackowen, and Parish: > Kilcatherine. Sure, and wasn't it Oscar Wilde who said, "consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds?" Truth be told, I have no blessed idea why they're different. Perhaps Riobard can explain it, or perhaps another of the list members who knows the ins and outs of the Irish system of creating political subdivisions will be able to enlighten us. -- Bill

Hi I just found this on the Beara roots web site: From: Connie Murphy < murphycj@eircom.net> Subject: Historic Beara (1) Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 16:17:13 +0000 Hi Beara folk, We are now leaving the Prehistoric Period and entering what is known as the Historic Period. We now have some information from early Irish texts (none from Beara until much later) as well as from archaeological monuments of the period, of which there are many in Beara. Christianity was introduced steadily throughout Ireland during the 5th and 6th centuries. Soon, the country was known as 'The Island of Saints and Scholars'. Several monasteries were built in Beara at this time. The present-day parishes in the peninsula grew up around the some of these monasteries. Each monastery had a 'cill', an Irish word for church. >From this we get Kilcatherine, the church of St. Chaithigheirn, which was the original name for Eyeries parish. Killnamanagh, the church of the monks, is now Allihies parish. Kilmichael, St. Michael's church was in the middle village on Dursey Island. Kilaconenagh, 'the church of the assembly place' is now Castletownbere parish. Ballynakilla, the townland of the church, once contained the earliest church on Bere Island. Kilcaskan, 'the church of St. Caskan' has become Adrigole parish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reg Volk" <regvolk1@uniserve.com> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research > Keep digging! > > I think you will find that Eyeries is a CATHOLIC parish in the CIVIL > parish > of Kilcatherine. > > So... Kilcatherine could be in both!? > > Riobard?? > > Reg-Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Gawne" <gawne@cesmail.net> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research > > >> Hi Terry, all, >> >> Terry <barnes149@comcast.net> writes: >> >>> As I am just beginning to learn here, could someone explain why >>> everything I >>> find including Riobards books shows Kilmackowen, Eyeries Parish, Cork, >>> Ireland. But when I look up the Griffiths Valuation records they show >>> Barony:Bear, Union:Castletown, Townland:Kilmackowen, and Parish: >>> Kilcatherine. >> >> Sure, and wasn't it Oscar Wilde who said, "consistency is the >> hobgoblin of small minds?" >> >> Truth be told, I have no blessed idea why they're different. Perhaps >> Riobard can explain it, or perhaps another of the list members who >> knows the ins and outs of the Irish system of creating political >> subdivisions will be able to enlighten us. >> >> -- Bill >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

I did a search of Kilcatherine parish found a site where they show it is now called Eyeries Parish, it listed all the different parishe and the names they were changed to where applicable. No wonder everything is so hard to find. Parts of Allihies are different at different times also. they also show Allihies and Kilcatherine parishs as county Kerry. parishes west of Bantry (Kimocomogue) are given as Cellechdach,(Killough or Killeacac), Cellmana,(Allihies or Kilmanagh, Cellchattigern(Kilcatherine) and Cellmoceogain (Kilmackkowen) I found out from a living decendant in Kealanine, Ireland that that is the current english name for Caol An Eidhin, Coomhola Bridge, outside Bantry, Cork, Ireland. Coomhola Bridge is just a bridge at the base of Coomhola mountain. but it is Coomhola church This small mind may burst before I figure out where to look for what, although I probably sound like it already did. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gawne" <gawne@cesmail.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research > Hi Terry, all, > > Terry <barnes149@comcast.net> writes: > >> As I am just beginning to learn here, could someone explain why >> everything I >> find including Riobards books shows Kilmackowen, Eyeries Parish, Cork, >> Ireland. But when I look up the Griffiths Valuation records they show >> Barony:Bear, Union:Castletown, Townland:Kilmackowen, and Parish: >> Kilcatherine. > > Sure, and wasn't it Oscar Wilde who said, "consistency is the > hobgoblin of small minds?" > > Truth be told, I have no blessed idea why they're different. Perhaps > Riobard can explain it, or perhaps another of the list members who > knows the ins and outs of the Irish system of creating political > subdivisions will be able to enlighten us. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Keep digging! I think you will find that Eyeries is a CATHOLIC parish in the CIVIL parish of Kilcatherine. So... Kilcatherine could be in both!? Riobard?? Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gawne" <gawne@cesmail.net> To: <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research > Hi Terry, all, > > Terry <barnes149@comcast.net> writes: > >> As I am just beginning to learn here, could someone explain why >> everything I >> find including Riobards books shows Kilmackowen, Eyeries Parish, Cork, >> Ireland. But when I look up the Griffiths Valuation records they show >> Barony:Bear, Union:Castletown, Townland:Kilmackowen, and Parish: >> Kilcatherine. > > Sure, and wasn't it Oscar Wilde who said, "consistency is the > hobgoblin of small minds?" > > Truth be told, I have no blessed idea why they're different. Perhaps > Riobard can explain it, or perhaps another of the list members who > knows the ins and outs of the Irish system of creating political > subdivisions will be able to enlighten us. > > -- Bill > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, As I am just beginning to learn here, could someone explain why everything I find including Riobards books shows Kilmackowen, Eyeries Parish, Cork, Ireland. But when I look up the Griffiths Valuation records they show Barony:Bear, Union:Castletown, Townland:Kilmackowen, and Parish: Kilcatherine. I am confused as to what parish names I should be looking for. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Devine" <janedvine@sbcglobal.net> To: <Beara@rootsweb.com>; <beara@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research Dear Theresa and BEARA Friends, I have many relatives in Glengarriff that are buried in the Glengarriff Cemetery across from Sacred Heart Church in Glengarriff. My grandparents are there with a nice marked stone along with aunts and uncles; however, the older grandparents going back two more generations have a stone marker. There weren't $$ to do a proper stone and the famine was also probably a consideration?? On the Griffiths Website there is a Jeremiah Murphy listed in Bocarnagh, Glengarriff; my great grandfather is there also..... Here is the website (don't know if it is your "Murphy".....) but I thought you might like to look at the reference; perhaps more "leads"...... http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml Good luck, Jane Sullivan Devine San Francisco, California --- On Wed, 10/7/09, kerstentm@snowcrest.net <kerstentm@snowcrest.net> wrote: From: kerstentm@snowcrest.net <kerstentm@snowcrest.net> Subject: [BEARA] More Sullivan and Murphy research To: Beara@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 4:40 PM To all, I've an odd question. I've been so busy tracking the burial places of my ancestors here, that I've never thought about where people in Eyeries could be buried. Is Kilcatherine Cemetery the only possibility? I've also been searching for the parents of Michael Murphy from Butte Montana who married Mary Murphy in Butte. Mary was daughter of Patrick Murphy who was wed to Maggie Sullivan. The parents are Jeremiah Murphy and Nora Sullivan of Glengariff. We have Riobard's Eyeries book, but don't know if Glengariff is included or is in another of his books. I'm just amazed that we miraculously have found any leads. Theresa --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wasn't the BUTTE film wonderful? And the music too? I just got off the phone with JOHN T. SHEA, & congratulated him on his fine work in the documentary. He lives about 2 houses away from the Mullen House, which Grandma Nonie & PD ran. He was one of the main commentators, the gentleman with the glasses. I was thrilled to see a little of "the Lady" in the film too... It's wonderful to see her all lit up every single night on top of the East Ridge of the Rockies, just east of us. Actually there are 3 more blocks of homes, then the Hillcrest School, then another 1/2 mile east begins the ascent up the mountain. I can see The Lady from my upstairs sewing room windows, & we can also see her from our bedroom. The town has indeed been blessed since she went up in 1985. Young Marc got to work 4 days the summer before that in '84, on the 'dress' part of the Lady. He had had welding already 3 years at that time. I told Mr Shea about your writing the Beara group you were in contact with & he was pleased. Barbara

Massachusetts here, south of Boston Being replayed quite a few time on PBS Oct 21, channel 209 9am 3pm 8pm Oct 22 1am 3am Oct25 12pm ----- Original Message ----- From: "james sullivan" <jpsullivan38@yahoo.com> To: beara@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 5:42:20 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [BEARA] "butte america" i saw the butte presentation yesterday on a pbs channel and if you can't wait untill it comes around again it is well worth the price they are asking jim sullivan once removed from cork --- On Mon, 10/19/09, Pat Moore <clarabear43@gmail.com> wrote: From: Pat Moore <clarabear43@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [BEARA] "butte america" To: beara@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, October 19, 2009, 2:01 PM In Seattle, WA it'll be on channel 9 (or 109 digital) on the 20th and again on the 24th of October. jacquemn@aol.com wrote: > Twin Cities Public television told me today that if they do show the documentary, it would be after the first of the year. The following info was sent to me by a friend in Butte, and I'm passing it on in case anyone else is interested.  I'm not blessed with an overload of patience, so I will definitely order.  The You Tube clips were great!  My husband's  family home sat right in the area of the Pit when we were married. > > Jackie > > > > > >  Documentary dvd for sale The documentary film >    >> "Butte, America" is available for purchase from >> public television in a DVD format for $29.95, plus $5 >> shipping and handling. >> >> The DVD includes 67 minutes of film, a 10-minute >> featurette and five minutes of behind-the-scenes >> footage. To order, call (800) 406-6383 or visit >> shop.montanapbs.org >>      > > i fellow listers. Butte America will be shown at ten p.m. tonight on channel 44 > Jim. >                      > _______________________________________________________________ > tmail: Trusted email with Microsoft’s powerful SPAM protection. > tp://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/177141664/direct/01/ > ------------------------------ >  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > th the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > e message >  > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > he message > >  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message          ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

DishTV will show Butte America on PBS USA channel 65 at 7PM Pacific Time tonight.

It will be on KCET tonight , Oct. 20, 2009, here in the Los Angeles area at 10:00. On 10/19/09, Helen <hdipilato@comcast.net> wrote: > Butte America was on last evening in Boston. > I do not have Beara roots nor did I know the story of the Butte mines so I > learned something. > I really enjoyed the program. > Helen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Barlin75@aol.com> > To: <beara@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 6:27 AM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Butte on PBS > > >> Channel 13 /21 are PBS stations in NY. >> Butte documentary is on "Independant Lens". >> >> Barbara >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEARA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > -- Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan in Kildare