Just to clarify something that Reg said and to offer a bit of guidance to others looking for the location of houses or farms in Beara. The properties being searched for are actually in North Allihies but for some obscure reason the townlands of Cluin, Allihies and Ballydonegan came under the registration district of Coulagh in the 1911 Census rather than being in their usual place of Kilnamanagh. Reg is absolutley right to say that local knowledge is often vital but listers may be able to carry out their own searches by following the list of actions detailed below:- 1. Use Riobard's books to trace your ancestors back to whoever you take to be the head of the household in 1852. 2. Search the Griffiths Valuation via the askaboutireland website. The search can be by the person's name or by the townland in which they lived. However, searching by name is difficult because the transcriptions from the handwritten records are particularly poor and very often it is a family nickname or branch name that has been recorded rather than the surname that you are searching for. I find searching by townland to bring greater rewards but it needs to be remembered that Allihies Parish was known as Kilnamanagh, Castletownbere as Killaconenagh and Eyeries as Kilcatherine. Also the spelling of townland names has changed considerably over the last two hundred years and whilst there is an exercise in progress to create a database in which the various spellings can be checked, this may take a little time to come to fruition. 3. Having found your target person you need to note the townland and their plot number before switching to the Map View. Then you zoom in until you find the townland and the particular plot you are looking for. 4. Click on the Hybrid button in the top right of the screen and then move the slider underneath it to the left to reveal a modern satellite image of the area. You can zoom in or out as you wish to hopefully recognise some modern day feature that will allow you to identify the property. This method works best when used in conjunction something like Google Earth or Google Maps where you can zoom down to street view. Almost all roads in Beara have been covered so there is a reasonable chance that you will be able to get a good photograph of the property you are looking for.

Thanks, Ken for correcting this. So...Tami do NOT look at the Google map for Coulagh but for the North part of Alihies. Sorry-Reg (I thought there was a different family at House 16 in Coulagh! Thanks again, Ken.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Mason" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 1:37 PM Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/O'Neill > Just to clarify something that Reg said and to offer a bit of guidance > to others looking for the location of houses or farms in Beara. > > The properties being searched for are actually in North Allihies but for > some obscure reason the townlands of Cluin, Allihies and Ballydonegan > came under the registration district of Coulagh in the 1911 Census > rather than being in their usual place of Kilnamanagh. > > Reg is absolutley right to say that local knowledge is often vital but > listers may be able to carry out their own searches by following the > list of actions detailed below:- > > 1. Use Riobard's books to trace your ancestors back to whoever you take > to be the head of the household in 1852. > > 2. Search the Griffiths Valuation via the askaboutireland website. The > search can be by the person's name or by the townland in which they > lived. However, searching by name is difficult because the > transcriptions from the handwritten records are particularly poor and > very often it is a family nickname or branch name that has been recorded > rather than the surname that you are searching for. I find searching by > townland to bring greater rewards but it needs to be remembered that > Allihies Parish was known as Kilnamanagh, Castletownbere as > Killaconenagh and Eyeries as Kilcatherine. Also the spelling of > townland names has changed considerably over the last two hundred years > and whilst there is an exercise in progress to create a database in > which the various spellings can be checked, this may take a little time > to come to fruition. > > 3. Having found your target person you need to note the townland and > their plot number before switching to the Map View. Then you zoom in > until you find the townland and the particular plot you are looking for. > > 4. Click on the Hybrid button in the top right of the screen and then > move the slider underneath it to the left to reveal a modern satellite > image of the area. You can zoom in or out as you wish to hopefully > recognise some modern day feature that will allow you to identify the > property. This method works best when used in conjunction something > like Google Earth or Google Maps where you can zoom down to street > view. Almost all roads in Beara have been covered so there is a > reasonable chance that you will be able to get a good photograph of the > property you are looking for. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Patty Gregory <[email protected]> writes: > Read on - we should copy and save these emails for when we have time > to delve into them....with our info. There is a complete archive of all posts ever made to the Beara mailing list. You can find it at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index?list=beara The search tool is a bit kludgy, and it can take a while to find something, but the entire content of the list is there, going back to August 1998. -- Bill

Dear friends of Beara, Please be very careful about posting any links to Irish newspapers. See these two articles for details. http://www.mcgarrsolicitors.ie/2012/12/30/2012-the-year-irish-newspapers-tried-to-destroy-the-web/ http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2013/01/irish-newspapers-will-now-be-ignored.html The gist of the issue is that if you post a link to any of the 15 National Newspapers of Ireland (NNI) they will bill you a minimum of 300 Euros. Now, in practice this means they will bill Rootsweb, the host of this mailing list. But it could effectively shut us down in short order. I hope those of you living in Ireland will make the NNI papers aware of the insanity of this policy. In a year when Ireland is trying to promote an international gathering, it's crazy to adopt such a draconian policy. But until the policy is rescinded I suspect you'll see Rootsweb and other genealogy sites imposing policies that remove links to any NNI site. -- Bill

In response to Tami's postings (and the replies of others) I have been taking a look at the available sources of information. My conclusion is that she should actually be looking for two houses. The first being the home of Michael Lowney and Mary O'Sullivan (Suonish). Griffiths Valuation shows that to be just a house (no land) and from viewing the map from the 1840s, I suspect that was to the left of the road going into The Glen, North Allihies and is no longer standing. The second house (and farm) would be the home of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) which I suspect passed from Timothy Causkey to his daughter Johanna and her husband John O'Neill then after Johanna's death, John O'Neill lived there with his second wife, Johanna O'Shea (and children from both marriages). The 1911 Census shows old John O'Neill at 72 still farming with the assistance of his step-son, Patrick Lowney. His son John from the first marriage is not shown as having an occupation which may suggest that he was physically handicapped in some way and unable to take over the farming responsibilities himself. The farm of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) can be identified via the Griffiths Valuation and for those of you that know Allihies, its eastern edge joins the village of Cluin around where the childrens playground is these days (opposite O'Neill's Pub). I am sending emails to my friends in Allihies (including the person who I think has owned the Causkey farm in more recent times) to seek further clarification and will post again when I get responses from them. In the meanwhile I am sending maps and photographs directly to Tami to clarify a few things for her.

Tami Not sure if you have used Google maps much but you should be able to zoom in on the actual farm plots form the site below. Ther are still, currently, some farm houses standing but which one may be a challenge. Best to contact locals. http://maps.google.com/?ll=51.63090575990024,-10.039539334194922&z=10 Reg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tami, When you open the page you posted it brings up your Lowney people. At the top of this page is the legend of: Census Years / 1911 / Cork / Coudagh / Allihies / Residents of a House. Residents of a House is what you are looking at at that moment. If you click Allihies it returns you to the full list of houses. Nos 20 - Oliver, 21 Dennis, 22 - May and 23 - Harvey are families where the Head's occupation is something to do with the Coastguard. In my own searches here in England, I've managed to 'guess' which house my GG Grandparents lived in by virtue of finding the Public House, which is still called by the same name funnily enough, and working along using the census as a guide. I just thought it might be possible to use a similar method for your people. Patty Gregory said that her people lived in peat houses (bit dangerous I would have thought !! but maybe it was because of poverty or the ability to move on quickly due to persecution - who knows !!), My people on Bere Island have a 'rock' house built with rocks/boulders/large stones brought up from the seashore, or at least that is what I have always thought as it is situated right on the sea front in 'The Strand' on Bere Island. Empty now, but still standing, my cousin is renovating it slowly (wish I had inherited !!). Good luck with your searching. Regards - Ann. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > Hi Ann where did you find the officiers of coastguard. > > Tami Gilbert > > > On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:07 AM, "Ann Chilton" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Tami, >> >> I've had a bit of a look through the families listed in the hopes that I >> would find (by looking at their profession) a Publican or someone >> similar, >> then you would have a starting point to walk down the road (Google Maps >> are >> fantastic in this area), but the only Profession I found by cherry >> picking >> at the names were all officers in the coastguard, so I guess you are near >> the sea at this point ?? I have been to Allihies, but don't know it well >> enough to pin point where this would be. If Riobard is 'listening' he >> would >> know straight away, but you would have to respect his wish to stay >> 'retired'. Good luck with the search. >> >> Regards - Ann >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:27 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil >> >> >>> >>> Hello Beara friends >>> >>> A late night sneaking in some researching. >>> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >>> >>> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was >>> by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? >>> Tami Gilbert >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

You might also try this email: [email protected] Reg ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > The area of Coulagh townland is easy to locate on any Irish maps. I do > not believe there is a Coulagh village-they seem to connect to Eyeries. > > I note that all the people in the 1911 cesnus seem to be mostly farmers. > So you would be looking for a farm dwelling, probably. > > When I was in Cork I found it best to make contact with a current, local > resident. This B and B address even bears the O'Neil name-give it a try? > (se bottom) > > http://homepage.eircom.net/~coulaghbay/ > > CHEERS-Reg-Canada > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:27 PM > Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > >> >> Hello Beara friends >> >> A late night sneaking in some researching. >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >> >> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was >> by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? >> Tami Gilbert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >

The area of Coulagh townland is easy to locate on any Irish maps. I do not believe there is a Coulagh village-they seem to connect to Eyeries. I note that all the people in the 1911 cesnus seem to be mostly farmers. So you would be looking for a farm dwelling, probably. When I was in Cork I found it best to make contact with a current, local resident. This B and B address even bears the O'Neil name-give it a try? (se bottom) http://homepage.eircom.net/~coulaghbay/ CHEERS-Reg-Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ken, all, I'd like to commend Ken -- and all who have helped Tami -- for this effort. It's great to see the considerable talents of the Beara list coming together to help a fellow researcher. Thank you all so much. Bill Gawne Ken Mason <[email protected]> writes: > In response to Tami's postings (and the replies of others) I have been > taking a look at the available sources of information. My conclusion is > that she should actually be looking for two houses. The first being the > home of Michael Lowney and Mary O'Sullivan (Suonish). Griffiths > Valuation shows that to be just a house (no land) and from viewing the > map from the 1840s, I suspect that was to the left of the road going > into The Glen, North Allihies and is no longer standing. The second > house (and farm) would be the home of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) which > I suspect passed from Timothy Causkey to his daughter Johanna and her > husband John O'Neill then after Johanna's death, John O'Neill lived > there with his second wife, Johanna O'Shea (and children from both > marriages). The 1911 Census shows old John O'Neill at 72 still farming > with the assistance of his step-son, Patrick Lowney. His son John from > the first marriage is not shown as having an occupation which may > suggest that he was physically handicapped in some way and unable to > take over the farming responsibilities himself. The farm of Timothy > Harrington (Causkey) can be identified via the Griffiths Valuation and > for those of you that know Allihies, its eastern edge joins the village > of Cluin around where the childrens playground is these days (opposite > O'Neill's Pub). I am sending emails to my friends in Allihies > (including the person who I think has owned the Causkey farm in more > recent times) to seek further clarification and will post again when I > get responses from them. In the meanwhile I am sending maps and > photographs directly to Tami to clarify a few things for her.

Read on - we should copy and save these emails for when we have time to delve into them....with our info. From: Ken Mason <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil In response to Tami's postings (and the replies of others) I have been taking a look at the available sources of information.  My conclusion is that she should actually be looking for two houses. The first being the home of Michael Lowney and Mary O'Sullivan (Suonish).  Griffiths Valuation shows that to be just a house (no land) and from viewing the map from the 1840s, I suspect that was to the left of the road going into The Glen, North Allihies and is no longer standing.  The second house (and farm) would be the home of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) which I suspect passed from Timothy Causkey to his daughter Johanna and her husband John O'Neill then after Johanna's death, John O'Neill lived there with his second wife, Johanna O'Shea (and children from both marriages).  The 1911 Census shows old John O'Neill at 72 still farming with the assistance of his step-son, Patrick Lowney.  His son John from the first marriage is not shown as having an occupation which may suggest that he was physically handicapped in some way and unable to take over the farming responsibilities himself.  The farm of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) can be identified via the Griffiths Valuation and for those of you that know Allihies, its eastern edge joins the village of Cluin around where the childrens playground is these days (opposite O'Neill's Pub).  I am sending emails to my friends in Allihies (including the person who I think has owned the Causkey farm in more recent times) to seek further clarification and will post again when I get responses from them.  In the meanwhile I am sending maps and photographs directly to Tami to clarify a few things for her. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

read on! More research possibilities From: Ann Chilton <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil Hi Tami, When you open the page you posted it brings up your Lowney people.  At the top of this page is the legend of: Census Years / 1911 / Cork / Coudagh /  Allihies / Residents of a House. Residents of a House is what you are looking at at that moment.  If you click Allihies it returns you to the full list of houses.  Nos 20 - Oliver, 21 Dennis, 22 - May and 23 - Harvey are families where the Head's occupation is something to do with the Coastguard. In my own searches here in England, I've managed to 'guess' which house my GG Grandparents lived in by virtue of finding the Public House, which is still called by the same name funnily enough, and working along using the census as a guide.  I just thought it might be possible to use a similar method for your people.  Patty Gregory said that her people lived in peat houses (bit dangerous I would have thought !! but maybe it was because of poverty or the ability to move on quickly due to persecution - who knows !!),  My people on Bere Island have a 'rock' house built with rocks/boulders/large stones brought up from the seashore, or at least that is what I have always thought as it is situated right on the sea front in 'The Strand' on Bere Island.  Empty now, but still standing, my cousin is renovating it slowly (wish I had inherited !!). Good luck with your searching. Regards - Ann. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2013 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > Hi Ann where did you find the officiers of coastguard. > > Tami Gilbert > > > On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:07 AM, "Ann Chilton" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Tami, >> >> I've had a bit of a look through the families listed in the hopes that I >> would find (by looking at their profession) a Publican or someone >> similar, >> then you would have a starting point to walk down the road (Google Maps >> are >> fantastic in this area), but the only Profession I found by cherry >> picking >> at the names were all officers in the coastguard, so I guess you are near >> the sea at this point ??  I have been to Allihies, but don't know it well >> enough to pin point where this would be.  If Riobard is 'listening' he >> would >> know straight away, but you would have to respect his wish to stay >> 'retired'.  Good luck with the search. >> >> Regards - Ann >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:27 AM >> Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil >> >> >>> >>> Hello Beara friends >>> >>> A late night sneaking in some researching. >>> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >>> >>> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was >>> by looking at the census?  Would I be able to find an address or area? >>> Tami Gilbert >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill I couldn't have said that better. I am sincerely amazed and moved and I can't express in words how much I appreciate the assistance. I have had such a longing to find my Irish roots and I am again struck by the emotions that come over me when my quest takes another leap forward. This is definitely one of those times thanks to this Board. It pains me to have to leave and o to work. I so want to dive in deeper. If I can assist any of you with Washington State Information please let me know. Tami Gilbert On Jan 3, 2013, at 6:56 AM, "Bill Gawne" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Ken, all, > > I'd like to commend Ken -- and all who have helped Tami -- for this > effort. It's great to see the considerable talents of the Beara list > coming together to help a fellow researcher. > > Thank you all so much. > > Bill Gawne > > Ken Mason <[email protected]> writes: > >> In response to Tami's postings (and the replies of others) I have been >> taking a look at the available sources of information. My conclusion is >> that she should actually be looking for two houses. The first being the >> home of Michael Lowney and Mary O'Sullivan (Suonish). Griffiths >> Valuation shows that to be just a house (no land) and from viewing the >> map from the 1840s, I suspect that was to the left of the road going >> into The Glen, North Allihies and is no longer standing. The second >> house (and farm) would be the home of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) which >> I suspect passed from Timothy Causkey to his daughter Johanna and her >> husband John O'Neill then after Johanna's death, John O'Neill lived >> there with his second wife, Johanna O'Shea (and children from both >> marriages). The 1911 Census shows old John O'Neill at 72 still farming >> with the assistance of his step-son, Patrick Lowney. His son John from >> the first marriage is not shown as having an occupation which may >> suggest that he was physically handicapped in some way and unable to >> take over the farming responsibilities himself. The farm of Timothy >> Harrington (Causkey) can be identified via the Griffiths Valuation and >> for those of you that know Allihies, its eastern edge joins the village >> of Cluin around where the childrens playground is these days (opposite >> O'Neill's Pub). I am sending emails to my friends in Allihies >> (including the person who I think has owned the Causkey farm in more >> recent times) to seek further clarification and will post again when I >> get responses from them. In the meanwhile I am sending maps and >> photographs directly to Tami to clarify a few things for her. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Ken! This is exciting information and I believe you are correct. I actually have more homes or locations I would like to find on my paternal side which is Cornelius Harrington my great grandfather who married Margaret o'sullivan (Cumba). Lower Cloghane I believe. I think I need to spread this all out on my dining room table so I can see and understand more clearly all the connections. My maternal great grandfather was James Lowney son of Michael. I wonder if there were sibling that inherited Michael's home? I haven't had a chance to look in Riobard's works Patty to see if your Michael and my gg grandfather Michael are one in the same. Ken, I think you are correct about the farm too. But what do you see that connects the location to the Griffith information? Accumulated knowledge or a particular number I am missing? I can verify that Johanna married twice and although the census doesn't show my grandmother I have verified that Elizabeth or Lizzie lived in Butte until her passing in 1977. I believe Patrick moved to Butte soon after the 1911 census. He married Margaret Shea in Butte 1913 had 2 girls Retta and Marjorie. Patrick passed in Butte 1933. His obituary connected him to my grandmother Mary Lowney Harrington. Who moved to Butte in 1904 and married Timothy Harrington who went years earlier to Butte. All miners. Patrick's obit mentions siblings in New York, Cork, and Washington. Ken your specifics of the area is amazing. I do not know the area but I think I saw O'Neill's pub in a tourist advertisement on the web. I so look forward to visiting the area someday. I look forward to hearing from you again and your Friends. Tami Gilbert On Jan 3, 2013, at 4:31 AM, "Ken Mason" <[email protected]> wrote: > In response to Tami's postings (and the replies of others) I have been > taking a look at the available sources of information. My conclusion is > that she should actually be looking for two houses. The first being the > home of Michael Lowney and Mary O'Sullivan (Suonish). Griffiths > Valuation shows that to be just a house (no land) and from viewing the > map from the 1840s, I suspect that was to the left of the road going > into The Glen, North Allihies and is no longer standing. The second > house (and farm) would be the home of Timothy Harrington (Causkey) which > I suspect passed from Timothy Causkey to his daughter Johanna and her > husband John O'Neill then after Johanna's death, John O'Neill lived > there with his second wife, Johanna O'Shea (and children from both > marriages). The 1911 Census shows old John O'Neill at 72 still farming > with the assistance of his step-son, Patrick Lowney. His son John from > the first marriage is not shown as having an occupation which may > suggest that he was physically handicapped in some way and unable to > take over the farming responsibilities himself. The farm of Timothy > Harrington (Causkey) can be identified via the Griffiths Valuation and > for those of you that know Allihies, its eastern edge joins the village > of Cluin around where the childrens playground is these days (opposite > O'Neill's Pub). I am sending emails to my friends in Allihies > (including the person who I think has owned the Causkey farm in more > recent times) to seek further clarification and will post again when I > get responses from them. In the meanwhile I am sending maps and > photographs directly to Tami to clarify a few things for her. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Mark I have emailed them. Tami Gilbert On Jan 2, 2013, at 11:39 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > Tami, > > Land records are available from the Land Registry in Dublin. Google them for more info. I had great luck there. > > Mark Sullivan > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:31:26 PM > Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > Tami, > You might try the Griffith's Valuation maps: > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml > > Marge > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hello Beara friends >> >> A late night sneaking in some researching. >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >> >> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was >> by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? >> Tami Gilbert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > O'Connor in Kerry > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut > Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, > King in Kildare > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Marge. Per Riobard's book Michael is my ggg father so possible this might be my Michael father of my gg James Lowney married to Johanna o Shea prior to his death and her marriage to John ONeill. Maybe the land registry will know from the map reference below. Griffiths Valuation Record Information Tenant Family Name 1 LOWNEY Forename 1 MICHAEL Landlord Family Name 2 PUXLEY Forename 2 JOHN L Location County CORK Barony BEAR Union CASTLETOWN Parish KILNAMANAGH Townland ALLIHIES Place Name ALLIHIES Place Type TOWNLAND Publication Details Position on Page 4 Printing Date 1852 Act 9&10 Sheet Number 114,127 Map Reference 21 B Tami Gilbert On Jan 2, 2013, at 10:33 AM, "kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com" <[email protected]> wrote: > Tami, > You might try the Griffith's Valuation maps: > > http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml > > Marge > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hello Beara friends >> >> A late night sneaking in some researching. >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >> >> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was >> by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? >> Tami Gilbert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > Slán, > Marge in Southern California > > Searching: > Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut > O'Connor in Kerry > Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut > Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut > Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, > King in Kildare > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ann where did you find the officiers of coastguard. Tami Gilbert On Jan 2, 2013, at 9:07 AM, "Ann Chilton" <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Tami, > > I've had a bit of a look through the families listed in the hopes that I > would find (by looking at their profession) a Publican or someone similar, > then you would have a starting point to walk down the road (Google Maps are > fantastic in this area), but the only Profession I found by cherry picking > at the names were all officers in the coastguard, so I guess you are near > the sea at this point ?? I have been to Allihies, but don't know it well > enough to pin point where this would be. If Riobard is 'listening' he would > know straight away, but you would have to respect his wish to stay > 'retired'. Good luck with the search. > > Regards - Ann > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:27 AM > Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > >> >> Hello Beara friends >> >> A late night sneaking in some researching. >> http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >> >> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was >> by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? >> Tami Gilbert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I could only hope it would be standing. I would very satisfied if I could find a road. :). I did some searching in the census once Bill said it is not very populated. I am still working at learning the lat of the land in the area and what is a Townland or the various other designations. I am coming along though. I so appreciate the ideas. Tami On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:58 AM, [email protected] wrote: > I would suggest you contact Riobard O'Dwyer who lives and is and expert in this area. > > That failing, pehaps a real estate person could help: > http://www.myhome.ie/residential/estate-agents/j-j-o-sullivan-beara-estate-agent-11129 > > The house may still be standing! > > Reg-Canada > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 11:27 PM > Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > >> >> Hello Beara friends >> >> A late night sneaking in some researching. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ >> >> Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? >> Tami Gilbert >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Tami, Land records are available from the Land Registry in Dublin.  Google them for more info.  I had great luck there. Mark Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: "kerrykuzzin @dslextreme.com" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 1:31:26 PM Subject: Re: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil Tami, You might try the Griffith's Valuation maps: http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml Marge On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Tami Gilbert <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census?   Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Slán, Marge in Southern California Searching: Golden, Sullivan, Kelly, Shea, in Kerry and Connecticut O'Connor in Kerry Fee, Cassidy, Gilbride in Fermanagh, Cavan, Kildare and Connecticut Lynch in Limerick and Connecticut Walsh, Stackpole, Garry/Garrey/McGarrey, Donovan, Doyle, Clowney/Clooney, King in Kildare   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Tami, I've had a bit of a look through the families listed in the hopes that I would find (by looking at their profession) a Publican or someone similar, then you would have a starting point to walk down the road (Google Maps are fantastic in this area), but the only Profession I found by cherry picking at the names were all officers in the coastguard, so I guess you are near the sea at this point ?? I have been to Allihies, but don't know it well enough to pin point where this would be. If Riobard is 'listening' he would know straight away, but you would have to respect his wish to stay 'retired'. Good luck with the search. Regards - Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tami Gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 7:27 AM Subject: [BEARA] Lowney/o'neil > > Hello Beara friends > > A late night sneaking in some researching. > http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Coulagh/Allihies/378011/ > > Does anyone have any information on how I would find where this home was > by looking at the census? Would I be able to find an address or area? > Tami Gilbert > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message