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    1. Re: [BEALS] John Jacob Beals.....Where is he buried in Pennsylvania?? Please help me.
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS - GRIFFITH - LOGAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cousin Don, Your spelling of Beals as Bales, is actually a "modern" misspelling of the original name. I have been a historian and genealogist for almost 50 years and even I made the mistake by thinking the BALES were another line all together and not connected to our BEALS family. My g-grandmother was ORA "JANE" BEAL:S GRIFFITH, wife of ABRAHAM "LINCOLN" GRIFFITH, I am the eldest granddaughter of their eldest daughter, MERLE EVELYNNE GRIFFITH LOGAN. The BALES spelling first appears in the late 1800's, in documents and records, as well as on grave markers. The spelling was due to the fact some of the family members were illiterate and spelled the name phonetically, as Bales, rather than Beals. The earliest mention of the BEALS name appears in the 9th century AD, mentioning a PIERACE B of BEALS GH___?. The document is faded and I am still attempting to find a better copy in order to add this information to our BEALS lines. The majority of BEALS family members were QUAKER or FRIENDS, a boon to any researcher as the FRIENDS records are as clear and accurate as those of the L.D.S. QUAKER FRIENDS rarely place markers on the grave site until the late 1700's, many members had a large stone marker which bore only the surname or initials. The exact location of graves would have been "stepped off", or measured, from existing markers such as another grave, trees, stones, a river or creek, etc. As too many of those records are lost, or misplaced, we continue to search for any record to solve the continuing issue, "Where the heck did they bury you?" Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    02/08/2015 11:33:33
    1. Re: [BEALS] Beal information
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Rustybeals94 Surnames: Beals Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/126.136.138.152.153.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello, My line of Beals (Edson Beals) came to Peirpont Ohio in 1818, then moved to Cherry Valley in 1828 where they remained. I only found out a year or so ago that my family has been here since the 1600's. However I have not been able to make the connection From Edson to John Beals (ca 1588-1688) and would love to do so. Any information you might have would be greatly appreciated. I can be contacted at rustybeals@me.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    08/31/2014 12:57:49
    1. Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DCBales1 Surnames: Beals Bales Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I wouldn't really call it a misspelling. People sounded things phonetically. Actually My GGGrandfather Joseph (b 1825) used the Bales spelling throughout his life, though his father used the Beals spelling. always sounded the same. The earliest record I have for the "Bales" spelling was from the Chester Meeting records of 1682 where John and Mary Clayton signified their intent to marry. It is Bales rather than Beals or Bealles, Of course his name also is sometimes spelled several ways. but always sounded the same I understand. I've even seen it as Baels My files do not show the consistent Bales spelling until Joseph A.and his brother Curtis after 1825 and I suspect he made the change to ensure that it wasn't mispronounced. Joseph's father John (b1802) had it spelled is various ways Census takers still spelled colorfully and phonetically. Still a bit of conjecture to say the family came with William the conqueror. although I have seen that elsewhere. Very few records have survived. As a side note, the Normans, while settled in "France" were not French, but a colonization of Norwegian and danish Vikings in the 9th century, Hence the name Normandy. = Norsemen. William claimed the Throne of england was promised to him by his distant cousin, Edward the confessor who was childless. We May be Norman in origin, but, who knows....... Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    08/17/2014 12:43:57
    1. [BEALS] Joel Beal/Beals
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rachelbeth07 Surnames: Beals Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/435/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I'm looking for Joel Beal. I have him listed as being born in 1822 in Hawkins County, TN. He is listed on the 1840 census as living in Hawkins County, TN and he is listed on the 1850 census as living in Claiborne Parish, LA along with John Beal. Joel married Sara D. Wells in 1851 in Claiborne Parish. I have his death listed as 1858 in Goldonna, Natchitoches Parish, LA. I'm looking for any information on Joel and who his parents might be. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    03/04/2014 11:48:00
    1. Re: [BEALS] DESCENTS OF THOMAS TREWYN BEALS
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Gbeals51 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/185.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Cindy, My Grandfather is Ferd Beals, brother of Thomas Trewyn Beals. I live in Somerset, PA. Would love to connect and get some info on the Beals Family tree. You can reach me via email at gbeals@excite.com. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    02/07/2014 07:41:18
    1. [BEALS] EARLIEST Record of Beal(s) Name
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEAL - BEALS - AIFRAIC - MHUIRTHEAD. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/434/mb.ashx Message Board Post: While researching records pertaining to the ancient Celts, I came across a record of one "AIFRAIC of BEAL na' MHUIRTHEAD, in ancient EIRE (Ireland), dated in the First Century AD! I am still attempting to translate the given and place names, but this appears to be the earliest record of our shared family name. The research Forum, Digging_4_Your_Roots@yahoogroups, was designed, for just such research, among others. Anyone having information on [one] Aifraic, as well as where Beal na' Mhuirthead, would be, please contact me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

    01/12/2014 09:08:18
    1. [BEALS] BAKER - BEAL or BEALS Family Photograph Album
    2. Shelley Cardiel
    3. I've "rescued" an old photograph album including identified photographs belonging to the BAKER and STEWARD or STUART and BEAL Families from Maine and Massachusetts. The album includes photographs of Elijah BAKER, his Mother Charity BEAL BAKER, his wife Jennie SMITH BAKER along with photographs of Mr. & Mrs. William STUART or STEWARD and "Harriette's Father" Thomas STEWARD. All appear to have been taken in studios in various Maine cities. A list of the photographs included in the album is as follows along with additional information I was able to gather based on limited research: BAKER Family Photograph Album . Unidentified Girl, Hussey Studio, no location, 1890's, girl about 7 years . Mr. William STUART of Solon, ME, no studio, 1890's, man in 60's . Mrs. William STUART of Solon, ME, no studio, 1890's, woman in 60's . Unidentified Woman, Loupret Studio in Lowell, MA, 1880's, woman in 40's . Unidentified Man, Palatial Studio, no loc, 1870's or 1880's, man in 30's . Unidentified Woman, Palatial Studio, no loc, 1870's or 1880's, woman in 30's . Unidentified Woman, no studio or loc, 1890's, young woman in teens . Unidentified Girl, Palatial Studio, no loc, girl about 10 years . Elijah BAKER, Hussey Studio, no loc, 1880's, man in 40's or 50's Elijah T. BAKER was b. 1833 and d. 1 Mar 1907 in Moscow, ME and is buried in the Bingham Village Cemetery in Bingham, ME. Elijah was the son of Jonathan BAKER (1790-1867) and Charity BEAL (1797-1871), he was one of 11 children born to this couple including, Henry; Plummer; Roswell W.; Margaret J.; Reuben; Zachariah; Amanda J.; David M.; Elijah T.; Sarah F.; and William D. BAKER, all born between 1817 and 1838. . Jennie SMITH BAKER, Sturtevant Studio in Skowhegan, ME, 1880's, note age 36 years old Jennie C. SMITH was b. 1853 in Moscow, ME, married Elijah T. BAKER (1833-1907) on 20 Jun 1893 in Eliot, ME and died in 1940 in Moscow, ME . Unidentified Toddler, Hartwell Studio in Madison, ME, 1880's or 1890's, toddler about 3 years . Unidentified infant, Hussey Studio, no loc, 1890's, about 1 year . "Harriette's Father & Mother", no studio or loc, 1860's, man in 70's or 80's Harriette's Father was Thomas STEWARD b. 11 Sept 1784 in Bloomfield, ME or Canaan, ME and d. 2 Nov 1865 in Moscow, ME, he was the son of Phineas STEWARD (1760-1853) and Mary "Molly" SNOW (1763-1842), he was married to Apphia or Aphia WILLIAMSON (1792-1881) and their children also included, Mary STEWARD JEWETT (1810-1883); Bryce M. (1812-1882); Phineas (1815-1889); Eliza M. STEWARD SMITH (1817-1893); William S. (1819-1869); and Ann Ward STEWARD SMITH (1821-1858) all buried in the Baker Cemetery in Moscow, ME along with their parents. It appears that all their children were born in Bloomfield, ME. There were a total of 12 children born to the couple, others include Daniel F.; Ephraim W.; Moses I.; Harriet S.; Edward P.; and Thomas Benjamin STEWARD all born between 1810 and 1840. Daughter Harriet S. STEWARD married David M. BAKER (b. 1830 in ME) and together they had two children, Hellen BAKER and Fanny E. BAKER both born in Moscow, ME in 1858 and 1859 respectively. Harriet died in 1880. . Elijah BAKER, Crowell's Studio in Lewiston, ME, 1880's, man in 40's or 50's . "Elijah BAKER'S Mother", no studio or loc, 1870's, woman in 60's Elijah's Mother was Charity BEAL or BEALS BAKER was b. 21 Nov 1797 in Bowdoin, ME and died 17 Jan 1871 at the age of 73 years and 2 months and is also buried in the Bingham Village Cemetery in Bingham, ME. Charity was married to Elijah's father, Johnathan BAKER (b. 3 Sept 1870 in Litchfield, MA - now Kennebec, ME) on 6 Mar 1817 in Moscow, ME. Charity was the daughter of Joshua BEAL (1762-1844) and Mary MCCLELLAN (1766-1804) and one of 10 children born to this couple including, Mary; Zacheus L.; Abigail; Janney; Joseph; Joshua Jr.; Charity; Nathaniel Appleby; Sarah; and Dorothy BEAL all born between 1792 and 1801. Joshua BEAL Sr. had 6 children from a previous marriage as well as a later marriage including, Sarah; Sewal; Joshua; Thomas; Eliza; and Octavia BEAL. . Unidentified Male, Sturtevant Studio in Skowhegan, ME, 1880's, man in 30's . Unidentified Male, Peabbles Studio, no loc, 1880's, man in 50's . Unidentified infant, no studio or loc, 1880's, less than 1 year . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1870's, woman in 30's . Unidentified Male, no studio or loc, 1870's, man in 70's . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1880's, woman in 70's . Unidentified Male, C. S. Greeley Studio in North Anson, ME, 1880's, boy in teens . Unidentified Female, no studio or loc, 1870's or 1880's, girl in teens There is also a considerable amount of census information regarding these families, however, in order to keep the posting somewhat short I am not including all that I found. I am hoping to locate someone from this family so that the album can be returned to the care of family. If you are a member of this family, or you know someone who might be, please contact me. Thanks, Shelley

    11/24/2013 05:13:02
    1. [BEALS] Kate Beals Berwinsdale, Clearfield Co., PA 1890
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JenniferFritsch232 Surnames: Beals Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/433/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Letter found from her to Curwinsville Bank requesting deposit of $100.00 to her account. Letter dated 6/2/1890 on tablet paper. Original signature in ink. Would like to get to family member interested in genealogy. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    10/21/2013 12:03:21
    1. Re: [BEALS] George W. Beals born 1871 Nebraska
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dawna_CA Surnames: Beals Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/77.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: It has been several years. Did you ever follow through on writing for penitentary, court and/or divorce records? What did you find out? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/06/2013 02:06:34
    1. Re: [BEALS] John Beals (1660-1726) the Quaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cyndycox Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/1.113.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My line is Thomas Beals and Martha Emeline White son of Jacob Beals and Martha (later married Jane Armstrong) son of Solomon Beals and Rebecca Underwood,son of Jacob Beals and Elizabeth Griest, son of Jacob Beals and Mary Brooksby, son of John Beals and Mary Clayton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/10/2013 12:20:44
    1. [BEALS] Beals DNA
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS; GRIFFITH; MILLS; HAMMER; WEST; JONES; GRIEST; NICHOLS. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/1.112.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I know how difficult the problem can be. But you may not have to concern yourself with your uncles resistance. There are, by my count, over 100,000 male BEALS decendents, who have already given DNA. My Beals origins go back to the beginnings of the name; in the mid to late 7th century AD. My maternal grandmother was a GRIFFITH-BEALS. Her mother was ORA JANE BEALS, wife of ABRAHAM LINCOLN GRIFFITH. ORA JANE BEALS > LT. JOB SCOTT BEALS & MARY ANNABELLE "ANNA" MILLS; DAVID "DAVE" BEALS IV & RACHEL HAMMER; DAVID BEALS SENIOR/III & his first wife, RACHEL WEST; ISSAC BEALS SENIOR & HANNAH JONES; JOHN JACOB BEALS & ELIZABETH NICHOLS GRIEST (orig spell) (also spelled as GREOST, GREAST & GRAEST) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/09/2013 08:56:05
    1. Re: [BEALS] John Beals (1660-1726) the Quaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS; GRIEST; NICHOLS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/1.113/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Jacob BEALS and Elizabeth Nichols GRIEST. The names have been listed separately as: John BEALS and or Jacob BEALS; Elizabeth NICHOLS and/or Elizabeth GRIEST. It is unknown as to when the names were separated. He was known as JOHN BEALS by family and friends. However church records, legal documents, census etc. list him as JACOB BEALS. The same can be said of Elizabeth. A few family records, show her nickname as "LIZZIE". Some documents list her maiden name as NICHOLS, making some researchers believe she had married [a] GRIEST family member. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/09/2013 08:41:50
    1. Re: [BEALS] John Beals (1660-1726) the Quaker
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cyndycox Surnames: Bailes, Beals Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/1.112.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have an uncle that we have tried to get to do a dna test. He said that he doesn't need one because he knows who his father is. He is older and I don't think he understands how it could benefit all of our family. He would the most beneficial for our family. I still have hope that someone will volunteer. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/04/2013 06:38:44
    1. [BEALS] BEALS Allen M - Vietnam Wall section 17 East
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX Surnames: BEALS Classification: military Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/432/mb.ashx Message Board Post: BEALS Allen M - Vietnam Wall section 17 East Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 231,940 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname. If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    08/01/2013 06:34:39
    1. [BEALS] Beals vs Bales
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS; BALES; BEELS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found the first misspelling from Beals to Bales in 1859. The reasons for this spelling was that many of our family members could neither read, nor write, as such they spelled the name as "best they could". The origins are possibly French. The first Beals I have found was (a) Robert Beals, Champagne region, France; about 1020 AD. Beals were with William of Normandy in 1066 and were "Honored knights", and were "given" land in England. The Beals estates included lands in Goucestershire, Devon and Cheshire. Our Beals direct ancestor, took lands in Cheshire, England where (a) William Beals built a family house, naming it "BEALS-on-the-HILL". The house stood until the latter part of the 1990's, when it was torn down to make room for a housing development. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/31/2013 08:28:56
    1. Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales
    2. Thomas Hamm
    3. Actually, I think that the pronunciation was almost always Bales (rhymes with sales), at least from the time of arrival in America of the Quaker John Beals/Bales of Chester County, Pennsylvania. In both civil records and Quaker records, the name is spelled variously Beals, Beales, Bales, Bails, Bailes, and Baels. And in seventeenth century English pronunciation, "ea" could have a long A sound, as in "yea and nay." Assuming that the various clerks and scribes spelled the name as they heard it, that suggests a long A. I've never seen it spelled Beels, as you would expect if it rhymed with "feels." It may not have been so much a matter of illiteracy as indifference to consistent spelling. By the nineteenth century, those of the family who stuck with the Beals spelling were pronouncing it with a long E, so that it rhymes with "meals" or "heals." ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: BEALS-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:28:56 AM Subject: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS; BALES; BEELS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found the first misspelling from Beals to Bales in 1859. The reasons for this spelling was that many of our family members could neither read, nor write, as such they spelled the name as "best they could". The origins are possibly French. The first Beals I have found was (a) Robert Beals, Champagne region, France; about 1020 AD. Beals were with William of Normandy in 1066 and were "Honored knights", and were "given" land in England. The Beals estates included lands in Goucestershire, Devon and Cheshire. Our Beals direct ancestor, took lands in Cheshire, England where (a) William Beals built a family house, naming it "BEALS-on-the-HILL". The house stood until the latter part of the 1990's, when it was torn down to make room for a housing development. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEALS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/31/2013 07:36:15
    1. Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales
    2. Larry Lambertson
    3. My research into this family, both personal research and published sources, shows a goodly number of the descendants of John and Sarah (Bowater) Beals migrated to the north-central part of North Carolina and eventually into southern Ohio and then into central Indiana (where my twig on the branch stayed). Some went further west into Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, and Oregon. Except for a few deviations, this branch maintained the "Beals" spelling. The descendants of William (a brother of John, above) and Rebecca (Chambers) Beals appear to have settled around the south central part of Pennsylvania, some moving into western Virginia near the Great Wagon Road. The descendants of Jacob (a brother of John and William, above) and Mary (Brooksley) Beals appear to have settled around the south central part of Pennsylvania for a generation or two before migrating to southwestern Virginia and northeast Tennessee where the spelling of "Bales" was prevalent. It is total speculation on my part, with no scientific basis, that the regional accent in the Tennessee / Virginia mountains pronounced "Beals" as "Bales" so that is how the folks writing the records spelled it. -----Original Message----- From: beals-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beals-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:29 AM To: BEALS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS; BALES; BEELS Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I found the first misspelling from Beals to Bales in 1859. The reasons for this spelling was that many of our family members could neither read, nor write, as such they spelled the name as "best they could". The origins are possibly French. The first Beals I have found was (a) Robert Beals, Champagne region, France; about 1020 AD. Beals were with William of Normandy in 1066 and were "Honored knights", and were "given" land in England. The Beals estates included lands in Goucestershire, Devon and Cheshire. Our Beals direct ancestor, took lands in Cheshire, England where (a) William Beals built a family house, naming it "BEALS-on-the-HILL". The house stood until the latter part of the 1990's, when it was torn down to make room for a housing development. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BEALS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/31/2013 06:35:06
    1. Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales
    2. Wyants
    3. Thomas, if you want to ensure that your reply to a List post is seen by the original poster, please remember the difference between regular posts sent to the BEALS List and posts that have been "gatewayed" from the BEALS Board. Remember that most Board posters are NOT subscribed to the corresponding List. If the post in question begins with: "This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list." then it has been "gatewayed". PLEASE RE-READ the "Important Note" at the very bottom (below) of the post that gave rise to your reply. If you are unsure of the difference or don't know what to do, please contact me off-list at mailto:BEALS-admin@rootsweb.com . Peter BEALS List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Hamm" <tomh@earlham.edu> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <beals@rootsweb.com> Cc: <BEALS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales > Actually, I think that the pronunciation was almost always Bales (rhymes > with sales), at least from the time of arrival in America of the Quaker > John Beals/Bales of Chester County, Pennsylvania. In both civil records > and Quaker records, the name is spelled variously Beals, Beales, Bales, > Bails, Bailes, and Baels. And in seventeenth century English > pronunciation, "ea" could have a long A sound, as in "yea and nay." > Assuming that the various clerks and scribes spelled the name as they > heard it, that suggests a long A. I've never seen it spelled Beels, as you > would expect if it rhymed with "feels." It may not have been so much a > matter of illiteracy as indifference to consistent spelling. > > By the nineteenth century, those of the family who stuck with the Beals > spelling were pronouncing it with a long E, so that it rhymes with "meals" > or "heals." > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > To: BEALS-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:28:56 AM > Subject: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: OkLady41 > Surnames: BEALS; BALES; BEELS > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.3/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I found the first misspelling from Beals to Bales in 1859. The reasons for > this spelling was that many of our family members could neither read, nor > write, as such they spelled the name as "best they could". > > The origins are possibly French. The first Beals I have found was (a) > Robert Beals, Champagne region, France; about 1020 AD. > > Beals were with William of Normandy in 1066 and were "Honored knights", > and were "given" land in England. The Beals estates included lands in > Goucestershire, Devon and Cheshire. > > Our Beals direct ancestor, took lands in Cheshire, England where (a) > William Beals built a family house, naming it "BEALS-on-the-HILL". The > house stood until the latter part of the 1990's, when it was torn down to > make room for a housing development. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEALS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEALS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/31/2013 05:41:53
    1. Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales
    2. Wyants
    3. Larry, if you want to ensure that your reply to a List post is seen by the original poster, please remember the difference between regular posts sent to the BEALS List and posts that have been "gatewayed" from the BEALS Board. Remember that most Board posters are NOT subscribed to the corresponding List. If the post in question begins with: "This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list." then it has been "gatewayed". PLEASE RE-READ the "Important Note" at the very bottom (below) of the post that gave rise to your reply. If you are unsure of the difference or don't know what to do, please contact me off-list at mailto:BEALS-admin@rootsweb.com . Peter BEALS List Admin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Lambertson" <llambertson@cox.net> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <beals@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales > My research into this family, both personal research and published > sources, > shows a goodly number of the descendants of John and Sarah (Bowater) Beals > migrated to the north-central part of North Carolina and eventually into > southern Ohio and then into central Indiana (where my twig on the branch > stayed). Some went further west into Nebraska, Kansas, Washington, and > Oregon. Except for a few deviations, this branch maintained the "Beals" > spelling. > > The descendants of William (a brother of John, above) and Rebecca > (Chambers) > Beals appear to have settled around the south central part of > Pennsylvania, > some moving into western Virginia near the Great Wagon Road. > > The descendants of Jacob (a brother of John and William, above) and Mary > (Brooksley) Beals appear to have settled around the south central part of > Pennsylvania for a generation or two before migrating to southwestern > Virginia and northeast Tennessee where the spelling of "Bales" was > prevalent. It is total speculation on my part, with no scientific basis, > that the regional accent in the Tennessee / Virginia mountains pronounced > "Beals" as "Bales" so that is how the folks writing the records spelled > it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: beals-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:beals-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:29 AM > To: BEALS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BEALS] Beals vs Bales > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: OkLady41 > Surnames: BEALS; BALES; BEELS > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/426.1.3/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I found the first misspelling from Beals to Bales in 1859. The reasons > for > this spelling was that many of our family members could neither read, nor > write, as such they spelled the name as "best they could". > > The origins are possibly French. The first Beals I have found was (a) > Robert Beals, Champagne region, France; about 1020 AD. > > Beals were with William of Normandy in 1066 and were "Honored knights", > and > were "given" land in England. The Beals estates included lands in > Goucestershire, Devon and Cheshire. > > Our Beals direct ancestor, took lands in Cheshire, England where (a) > William > Beals built a family house, naming it "BEALS-on-the-HILL". The house > stood > until the latter part of the 1990's, when it was torn down to make room > for > a housing development. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would > like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above > and > respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEALS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BEALS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/31/2013 04:43:10
    1. Re: [BEALS] THOMAS BEALS & connecting
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: OkLady41 Surnames: BEALS; MILLS; HAMMER; GRIFFITH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.beals/430.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That will teach me to 1) do a spell check (or should that be numbers), and 2) clean my glasses. I'll redo the message. E Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    07/30/2013 11:02:38