--------- Begin forwarded message ---------- From: "Jerry L. Clark" <clark4@itsnet.com> To: COMBS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [COMBS-L] James Magruder/Barbara Combs/William Combs Date: Sat, 30 May 1998 22:51:58 -0600 Message-ID: <l03020900b1966ae6e215@[192.41.87.206]> Dear Carole, Recently you wrote: (c) to remind all and myself that I neglected to add the above William COMBS deposition to our St. Mary's MD web page and that based on his deposition, Wm. COMBS was b ca1662, ten years earlier than the 1672 est. by Fannie COMBS Gough (See Combs Manuscripts), and "technically" too early to have been son of Enoch and Barbary COMBS I... (another subject entirely <g>) Dear Carole, I received that transcribed deposition from a different person, and and assumed it to be correct. After your remarkes I thought the best thing to do was to find the book "Abstracts of CHANCERY COURT RECORDS of Maryland 1669-1782 by Debbie Hooper and check every word to see if there were any transcription errors. Well, I guess I should have done that long ago, because since the age of 59 years of William Combs is what I thought it had said, until I checked. Here is exactly how it is written: Abstracts of CHANCERY COURT RECORDS of Maryland, 1669-1782,by Debbie Hooper, Family Line Publications, Westminster, Maryland 21157, 1996: Page 39: 3 Aug 1717. Depositions taken regarding the birth and lineage of Edmund Plowden and Brent Nuthall of St. Mary's Co. (1) Rev. Mr. Nicholas Gulick, age ca. 70, that some 24 years ago he married John Nuthall, Jr. of St. Mary's Co. and Miss Mary Brent of Stafford Co., Virginia. (Liber CL, p. 362). 3 Aug 1717. Deposition of Susan Evans, age. ca. 65, that 20 years ago this October, she was sent for as a midwife to Mrs. Mary Brent, sister to Margarett Brent and wife to John Nutthall, Jr., at the house of said Nuthall. She delivered a male child who is now known by the name of Brent Nuthall. The deponent always understood that Mary Brent was the wife of John Nuthall, and that Margaret Brent was the wife of George Plowden, late of St. Mary's Co. Both of them were sisters of William Brent of Stafford Co., Virginia, who lately died in Great Britain. The deponent further states that Brent Nuthall is the only surviving son of Mrs. Mary Brent. (Liber CL, p. 363). Page 49 and 50: 8 Oct 1721. Deposition taken regarding the right of Brent Nuthall to title of a tract in St. Mary's Co. called Crop Mannor. (1) Robert Clarke of St. Mary's Co., age ca. 71, that he very well knew John Nuthall the elder, the grandfather of Brent Nuthall, and that he and the deponent were the same age, except that said John was as much older than the deponent as March til November. The deponent would be 71 on the fifth of November next. (2) Levina Twisden of St. Mary's Co., age ca. 71, that she knew John Nuthall, the great-grandfather of Brent Nuthall and father of John Nuthall, the grandfather of said Brent Nuthall. John the great-grandfather lived on land called Crop Mannor about 54 years ago, when she came to this country, and where he died about 53 years ago last July. (3) William Combs of St. Mary's Co., ca. 50. (4) Charles Calvert of St. Mary's Co., Gent., age ca. 59, who was son of William Calvert. (Liber CL, p. 748-750). William Combs date of Birth is 50 years old from 1721 meaning Fanny Gough's research is correct and there is no other William Combs born 1662. the date of 59 years old was a transcription error. William Combs mentioned above was most definitely the son of Enoch Combs Sr. and Barbara______, Not only does my research prove that as fact, but so does Fanny Gough's research, and she used Bible records, Land records, and wills, not to mentioned personal testomonies from those who were direct decendants. I find very few errors with Fanny Gough's research if any. Those that I may not as yet agree with are not errors yet, until proven as such. It is not hearsay. William Combs recieved the land that his father Enoch Combs Sr. earlier recieved from Richard Banks. William Combs also named his eldest son Enoch Combs after his Father and his older brother Enoch Combs Jr. That certainly was not just by chance, it was for a reason. You'll be waisting your time to try to proove otherwise. Sorry my original Transcription contained that error, which has caused all this confusion in the first place. I might also mention Carole that the discussion of why and how we know Enoch Combs Jr. was married before his marriage to Sarah Sprigg, I have already discussed with you and showed you documented reasons for that. Perhaps you should refer back to that discussion as it was explained to you before. Sarah Sprigg(Combs) was not the mother of Barbara Combs who married James Magruder. The Magruder history gives a circa date of birth of James Magruder as 1685. Look back in the previous Postings by Carolyn Wimp. If Barbara Combs was born in 1704 as someone posted recently that would mean someone has the wrong information. If James Magruder was born abt 1685 he would be age 20 by 1705, just about the right age to be married, but if Barbara Combs was born 1704, then he would have to wait until she was old enough to marry. Even at age 15 years old that means the earliest a marriage might have been consumated would be abt 1720. I think you will discover they were already married before that. Sarah Sprigg married 1st to John Pearce(Peerce) and was still a widow of 1st husband in 1704. Refer to her fathers will which mentions his daughter Sarah Peerce dated 1704. That means Enoch Combs Jr. married her after 1704, but before 1726/27 when he is known to have died. As far as other children none are documented. Enoch Combs Jr. and his Father Enoch Combs Sr. left very few records in order to document who all their children were. But if Barbara Combs was a daughter of Enoch Combs Jr. then her mother was someone we know nothing yet about and Enoch Combs Jr. had to have been married before, at least once before to have a daughter Barbara Combs(Magruder). Barbara Combs that married James Magruder was born too late to be a daughter of Enoch Combs Sr. All of these land records Below are that of Enoch Combs Jr. not Sr. Land Records of Prince George's County, 1726-1730 Folio 51/583 Indenture, 22 Jan 1717 From: Daniel Danielson, Planter, and Thomas Sprigg, Gent., both of Prince George's County To: Enoch Coombs of Prince George's County 29 May 1710 Daniel Danielson sold Thomas Sprigg a parcel of land called Norway, part of a larger tract called Largo; bounded by land belonging to Robert Wells called Westphalia and land of Thomas Sprigg; containing 250 acres /s/ Daniel Danielson (seal) Thomas Sprigg(seal) wit: Thomas Claggett, Jos. Belt, Thomas Sprigg, Sr. , Ja. Haddock Enoch Combs paid �102/10/0 on date of purchase acknowledged by Thomas Sprigg, Daniel Danielson and his wife Elizabeth; enrolled 22 April 1718 Land Records of Prince George's County, 1726-1730 Folio 699 Deed of Gift, 20 Dec 1725; enrolled 12 Feb 1725 From: Enoch Combs and Sarah Combs of Prince George's County to: Thomas Odell, grandson, and Margaret his wife of Prince George's County. A Negro woman named Sarah /s/ Enoch Combs(mark and seal), Sarah Combs(seal) Wit: William Offutt, John Peerce Dec. 20, 1725 Sarah Sprigg(Pearce) was m. by this date to 2nd husband, Enoch Coombes when, " I Enoch Combs and Sarah Combs of Prince George's County in the province of Maryland, planter..." gave to Thomas Odell, grandson, and Margaret his wife of Prince George's County." (actually Sarah's Granddaughter , was Margaret Beale) Odell) Margaret Beale (wife of Thomas Odell was the sister of John Beale Jr. ) and daughter of Sarah Pearce and James Beale) that is how Sarah Sprigg Pearce (Combs) was the grandmother of Margaret Beale(Odell) Land Records of Prince George's County, 1726-1730 Folio 707 Deed of Gift, 14 feb 1725/26; enrolled 19 Feb 1725 from : John Beall, Jr. Of Prince George's County To: Margaret Odell, his sister Atract of Land called Ball Christ in Prince George's County on the east side of the north branch of the Eastern Branch of the Potomac ; containing 300 acres /s/ John Beall Jr. (Seal) wit: Jos. Belt, John Powell Acknowledged by Elizabeth Beall, wife of John, Jr. Land Records of Prince George's County, 1726-1730 Liber M Page 252 Enrolled at request of John Peere 23 Dec 1727: >From Sarah Cooms, spinster, to her son John Poores, Gent., a negro named Smith, 9 head of cattle formerly belonging to my husband Enoch Cooms and my part of Corn crop "depending between me and James Magruder" 2 Jan 1727/8; Sarah Cooms; wit. Edward Sprigg, John Giddings, Mary Peerce. Abstract of The Inventories of The Prerogative Court Libers 10-11 1724-1727 Francis King 11.568 PG �5557.2.3 Aug 13, 1726 Sept 15 1726 Appraisers: Enoch Combs, Thomas Hilleary. Creditors: Patrick Hepburn, George Buchanan. Next of Kin: Edward Sprigg, Osborn Sprigg. Administratrix: Margaret King, March 9 1726/27 Enoch Combs(Jr.) was deceased by this date, when the Inventory of his personal Estate was filed at court, showing an appraisement of � 252.10.3, Sarah Combes (the Widow) and John Peerce(her son), approved the valuation as the next of kin. (Prince George's County, Maryland., original Inventories, Box 6 folio 52) Sept. 22 1727 " At the request of John Peerce the following deed was enrolled December the 23rd day Anno Domini Seventeen hundred and twenty seven. To All Peopell to whom these presents shall come greeting. KNOW YE that I Sarah Coom's of prince George's County in the province of Maryland Spinster for and in consideration of the natural affection which I have & bear unto my beloved Son John Peerce of the County & province afd Gent as also for diver's other good causes & consideracons me hereunto moving after the expiration of natural life have given granted bargained & confirmed unto the said John Peerce & his heirs forever one negroe man named or cald Smith & dow now give grant and confirm unto the said Peerce nine head of neat Cattle that formerly belonged to my decesed husband Enoch Coom's as all my part of a Crop of Corn that is now depending between James Magruder & me & Sundry other goods & Chattels which I now give the said Peerce possession of with the said Cattle & corn IN WITNESS wherof I have I have hereunto Sett my hand & Seal this twenty Second day of September in the year of our Lord God one thousand Seven Hundren & Seven" Sealed & Delivered in the presence of /s/ Sarah Coom's (Seal) Edward Sprigg, John Gittings, Mary Peerce (Prince George's County Land records, Liber M, folio 252) Feb 21 1736/7 Thomas Odell- concerning the inventory of his wife's grandmother, Mrs. Sarah Sprigg (Peerce) Combs " late of Prince George's County Widow Deced" ... Then Came Mr. Thomas Odall & made oath on the Holy Evangilist of Almighty God that the foregoing Inventory is a true & Perfect Inventory of all & Singular the goods & Chattles which were of Sarah Coomes late of Prince George's County Deceased..." (Inventories, Liber 22, Folio 159-60, Hall of Records.) Sarah Sprigg (Pearce) (Combs) Inventory was dated , Feb 21 1736 Book PD 1 page 371. Thomas Odell was the Executor and Administrator of her will. Usually there are at least two different locations you can find the same document. It is obvious that the clerk recording this did not know how to Spell, because John Peere and John Poores was the same individual as John Pearce Or Peerce son of Sarah Sprigg Pearce(Combs). Sarah Sprigg married 1st to John Pearce. It is well documented that Sarah Sprigg was the daughter of Thomas Sprigg and 1st wife Katheryn Graves, and That Sarah Sprigg (Pearce) had a son named John Pearce named after his Father John Pearce, and she also had a daughter Sarah Pearce named after her mother Sarah Sprigg (Pearce). Sarah Pearce the daughter was born abt 1677, Calvert County, Maryland she died before 28 Nov 1761, Prince George's County, Maryland. The Daughter (Sarah Pearce) married about 1693(Beall), op. cit., p. 149, James Be(a)ll, Sr. , son of Alexander and Margret Ramsey (Bell)(Beall), of St. Andrews Scotland. James Beale Sr. was baptised feb. 5, 1652/3, St. Andrew's church, Fife County., Scotland; he died bef. Feb 10, 1725/6, Prince George's County, Maryland after his decease Sarah Pearce(Bealle) married 2nd to John Haswell, who also pre- deceased her dying testate, bef. April 11, 1750, Prince George's County, Maryland., by whom she had no issue. You have the documentation, you just need to compile it all together. Jerry L. Clark 1037 South 680 West Provo, Utah 84601 1-801-374-5016 ==== COMBS Mailing List ==== Reminder! Change Your Subject Heading when Replying from DIGEST Mode. EX: "Re: Combs of NY," _not_ "Re: Digest #259." Combsite: http://www.dragonfire.net/~combs/ --------- End forwarded message ---------- _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]