New query on our GenConnect board -- This one is special to me, 'cause it's *my line!,* and research that I had not been aware of. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Baysinger Queries Post Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:01:51 -0700 Baysinger Queries A new message, "Baysinger,Basinger Line," was posted by Lawrence E. Payne on Mon, 10 May 1999 --- NAME: Lawrence E. Payne EMAIL: lep8@cornell.edu SURNAMES: Baysinger, Besinger, Boesinger, Laemmer DATE: May 10 1999 QRYTEXT: The three main queries I have about the Baysinger line are the following: 1) Does anyone have proof that the three immigrant Baysingers(Pasingers) were really brothers? Others have already asked this question. 2) Who was the Jacob Baysinger who married Catherine Cash in Rockingham County, Va. and moved to Greene Counyy, Tn? 3) Can anyone trace the ancestry of the line back beyond Alsace? I will give my conjectured answer to these questions, but I have no proof. 1) It seems reasonably clear that Philip Jacob(subsequently referred to as Jacob) and Johan Peter(referred to as Peter) were closely related since they lived near one another in Lancaster County, Pa. and later in Rockingham County, Va. In 1789 Peter petitioned that Jacob be exempted from poll tax in Rockingham County due to infirmity (Minute Book 1778 - 1792). Since both Peter and Jacob had sons named Michael, this might lend some credence to the suggestion that the immigrant Michael was a third brother. Also Peter's oldest son (by his first wife), Peter, eventually moved to Clark County, Ohio as did one of Michael's sons. I believe that the three immigrants were closely related - probably brothers. 2) This Jacob lived among the children of Jacob, the immigrant, but there is no baptismal record for him in the Trinity Lutheran Church in Lancaster, Pa. where many of the other children of Jacob Sr. were baptized. We know that Jacob Sr.was married in Alsace and had at least one child baptized there. Perhaps Jacob Jr. was born before Jacob Sr,'s family came to America, but a book on the life of Lieutenant William Basinger who died at Dade's Massacre states that William's father, Peter, was the eldest son of the immigrant (Jacob). My guess is that this latter statement is incorrect and that the Jacob who married Catherine Cash was the son of Jacob the immigrant, born before the immigrants came to America. 3) The breakthrough on the European origins of the Baysingers came with the book "18th century immigrants from the Northern Alsace to America" by Annette Kunselman Bargert (1992). In it we find a record of the marriage on 27 Oct 1767 in Kutzenhausen in Alsace of Philip Jacob Besinger and Maria Dorothea Dreher. We also find that Jacob's father is named Jacob, and that he is a herdsman in Hermersweiler. I some time back ordered microfilms of church records for towns near Kutzenhausen and found in the Prueschdorf records a Valentin Boesinger and wife Maria Eva Haas, with children Maria Dorothea, Daniel(born 1775) and Johan Peter (born 1777). Valentin was a herdsman in Lampertsloch. Recall that the immigrant Johan Peter had a son Valentine and a grandson Daniel. This added to the fact that Valentin was a herdsman suggests that he was a son of Jacob Sr. and a brother of the immigrant Johan Peter. In the Oberbetschdorf records I found a Susanna Boesinger listed as the daughter of Ja! cob of Hermersweiler and his wife Margaret Laemmer. Susanna (1744 - 1829) married Phillip Henry Marzolf in 1777, and the names of their children are listed. She is definitely a sister of Philip Jacob. Has anyone pursued a further search of Northern Alsace church records? My guess is that the Boesingers(Besingers, Baysingers) came from around Switzerland (possibly near Bern)to Alsace in the early 1700's. There seems to have been a migration of Swiss into the Alsace at about that time. However, this is just a guess based partly on the fact that there were many Boesingers in Switzerland in the 1600's.. This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Baysinger Queries: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/Baysinger> Thank you! Posted by Listmom Valorie -- mailto:valoriez@aa.net