Hello, everyone. I just edited a new Welcome Message....you know, the one you got when you first subscribed? So toss the old one, and keep THIS one on file! Welcome to the Baysinger list. This is a discussion area for anyone who has an interest in Genealogy or History related to the Baysinger family, including any related spelling. My name is Valorie Zimmerman and I'm the owner of this list. I'm responsible for keeping it running as smoothly as possible and setting some rules and guidelines. Questions? Problems? Just ask....<mailto:[email protected]> My mother's mother was a Baysinger, and I have Lola Corene Baysinger Wagner's Baysinger book, and family group sheets compiled by Paul Montgomery and others. I'm sure a tremendous amount of research has been done since the publishing of Lola Wagner's book, and I hope that the members of this list post their research results here on the list, and on the GenConnect boards. At the bottom of this message will be a lot of nitty-gritty info you will need to keep around, so *PLEASE SAVE THIS MESSAGE*. If you don't know how to do that, or set up message filters in your email software, please ask me how! <mailto:[email protected]> Feel free to send invitations to join the list to any Baysinger researchers you know, or send their email addresses to me. I hope in the near future to establish a website as a home for the list and GenConnect boards, and all of you researchers. Please offer your help if you have any expertise in this area! I look forward to seeing all of your research results, and hearing your stories. I hope that this list can help link us living relatives, and help us all find our ancestors! If you go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/Baysinger-L/>, you will see all the posts to our list. If you go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> you can search in all Rootsweb lists. If you do not have web access, this is possible to do by email. Ask me for help. <mailto:[email protected]> OK, some *GUIDELINES* * This list is for the discussion of Genealogy and History, primarily regarding Baysinger and related families. Discussion of migration patterns, immigration, heraldry, historical sketches, Baysinger settlements, census data, wills, family Bibles, vital records, web sites, etc. as relates to Baysingers is encouraged as well as discussion of collateral families. Public announcements of information of interest to Genealogists in general though it may not be Baysinger-specific is permitted but please use discretion. If it will help out others on the list, send it......EXCEPT.... **** Do not post virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, or personal messages. For information on virus hoaxes and urban legends see <http://www.kumite.com/myths/> among others. * Please do not send file attachments (messages with files appended) to the list. In fact, never send anything but *plain text.* Turn off HTML and MIME. Write me if you need help with this. If you have a file you would like to share with the members, announce what you have to offer, then send the file only to those who request it, via private email. There are many Baysinger branches and not everyone will want the data on your line. * No rude comments or flaming in the list! No *discussion of flaming* in the list. For definitions of flaming and related information see <http://www.man.ac.uk/~zlsiira/Netiquette/flame.html> * Don't try to regulate this list. I'm the Listmom. If you don't like the way someone formats their queries or responses, or the content of their subject titles, take it up with the listowner, NOT in the list. The list is for Genealogy and History. <mailto:[email protected]> * Try to keep quoting to a minimum. "Quoting" is repeating text of the message you are replying to. Some quoting is necessary to remind other readers what the thread is about but do try to use good judgement. Quoting the previous writer's signature block, surname list or the tagline is *totally unnecessary* (and annoying). Whew! It's getting to be a book! Hold on, we're already to *TIPS* * Accuracy is important and sources are vital. Ancestor lists are worthless if the information is wrong. * All information need not be accompanied by source citations, but I do recommend strongly that posts either include sources or a note stating that they are available on request. * If information is speculation then label it as such! * When posting your query try to give as much information as you know, such as dates and places of all vital events if known, along with enough other family members so that the reader can positively identify if they are researching the same family. "Anyone out there researching Baysingers?" just doesn't cut it! * When replying to the list (this also can apply to private replies) try to quote some portions of the previous message so that other readers are reminded what the "thread" is about. Make clear what is quoted material and what you are adding. Most mail readers take care of this for you by inserting greater-than signs ">" at the beginning of each quoted line or possibly double brackets "<<" before and ">>" after the quoted piece. Use standard Windows procedures to cut unnecessary material. Ask me if you need help learning to do this. <mailto:[email protected]> * Post your queries and information to our GenConnect boards as well as the list. That way anyone searching Rootsweb will be able to find you. Put in links to the proper counties or states, if known, too. I can help you keep them up-to-date as far as email addresses, homepage links, etc. * Please send Baysinger replies to the list, not just to the original poster. Other members may benefit from the data that you provide. If you have your "reply to" set with your own address, that will over-ride the automatic list reply. It's best if you leave that blank in your own mail software. Last, but not least, the *NITTY-GRITTY* RootsWeb was founded in 1996 by Dr. Brian Leverich and Karen Isaacson. Due to their foresight, expertise and financial contributions, we're all here enjoying one or many of the mailing lists and other marvelous services to genealogists which reside here at RootsWeb. We are fortunate, indeed, to have all this genealogy at our disposal. To find out more about what else is available, go to and explore a bit. And if you are not yet a member or sponsor of RootsWeb, do consider joining. Your support added to that of many others can help sustain and nourish this wonderful resource. <http://www.rootsweb.com/> To subscribe to the list in mail mode (single messages), click <mailto:[email protected]>, type the word subscribe in the message body, and *nothing else,* and send. If you prefer digest mode (a group of messages), click <mailto:[email protected]>, and send the same "subscribe" message. To unsubscribe, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode). To switch from one mode to the other, unsubscribe from one and then subscribe to the other. There is no "no mail" mode -- if you want messages to stop, you should simply unsubscribe. If you have any problems, don't write the list, write me! <mailto:[email protected]> And NOW FOR THE IMPORTANT PART; sharing your questions and information: To post to both BAYSINGER-L and BAYSINGER-D, messages should be sent to [email protected] Messages sent there will appear both places. GenConnect addresses: Queries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/Baysinger Bible entries: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/BaysingerBibl Biographies: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/BaysingerBios Deeds: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/BaysingerDeed Obits: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/BaysingerObits Pensions: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/BaysingerPens Wills: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/BaysingerWill If you have never used GenConnect, there's a great Hints & Tips page at <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/HINTS/index.html> I want to read your queries and information. I hope this list will help each of us build connections, find more ancestors, and our living relatives! All the best, Listmama Valorie Cowan McBee Zimmerman, IBSSG Proud new listowner of Baysinger-L and McBee-L Black Diamond, Washington USA Proud sponsor of Rootsweb

Dan/Marilyn Garrison wrote: > > Thank you for passing along the information on the land records on-line. snip I was able > confirm one family's presence in a certain area for that period of > time..several members of the family applied for land at the same time. I > not only was able to take one more step to fit a family together,I had > one more fact to help prove that one family was indeed related to > another family. They applied for land at the same time in the same > county and township. I was able to figure out the approximate time they > moved from Virginia to Indiana. again, thank you. Marilyn And thank YOU, Marilyn, for sharing your inspiring story! Anyone else? All the best, Valorie

Thank you for passing along the information on the land records on-line. I recently found the site by accident and went into it without realizing I was going to find information about several research names in Ohio and Indiana. Along the way I had heard that they "received land" for some reason. Thus, my curiosity when I found the site. I was able confirm one family's presence in a certain area for that period of time..several members of the family applied for land at the same time. I not only was able to take one more step to fit a family together,I had one more fact to help prove that one family was indeed related to another family. They applied for land at the same time in the same county and township. I was able to figure out the approximate time they moved from Virginia to Indiana. again, thank you. Marilyn

GEORGE G. MORGAN: “ALONG THOSE LINES . . .” “Land Records Online” <<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<<>>><<< =================================================== In "Along Those Lines . . ." this week, I want to share an interesting Web-based research facility with you. If you are searching for copies of land patents on the eastern public land states, the Bureau of Land Management--Eastern States, General Land Office has a wonderful facility for your use. STATE LAND AND PUBLIC LAND--WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE? It is important to understand that there were two types of land. Before the American Revolution, there were thirteen colonies: Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and Virginia. Land in these colonies was held by the British government and was granted to private individuals for a variety of reasons. The Crown granted some land to individual proprietors or corporations, who then granted land to individuals. Some settlers received land just for settling in the colonies. After the Revolutionary war, the original thirteen colonies and five new states formed from the original colonies--Kentucky, Maine, Tennessee, Vermont and West Virginia--also granted land to their citizens. Many of these states awarded bounty land to Revolutionary War soldiers in payment for their military service. Later, Texas and Hawaii were added to these eighteen states, and these twenty states are known as state-land (or nonpublic-land) states. When the federal government was formed after the Revolutionary War, all the lands outside the original thirteen colonies and the other five new states mentioned above was ceded to the federal government and became part of the public domain. That means that the other thirty states are referred to as public land states. An act passed by the Continental Congress in 1785 called for the surveying of all the public domain and, beginning in Ohio in 1786, the surveying began. The lands originally surveyed were used as military bounties for soldiers and the remaining lands was offered for sale to the public. Depending on the piece of property and the time frame, the document issued by the government relating to the survey, sale or transfer of the parcel may be called a land patent, a warrant, or a homestead. A patent transfers title of land ownership from the federal government to a private party. The patentee may be an individual, corporation, a state or local government or some other entity that receives ownership of the title of land as a result of the granting of a patent. A warrant is a document issued to authorize the surveying of a specific parcel of land (also called a tract) for a specific person (also called the warrantee). The survey is the physical measurement of a specific area of land and includes the production of a written description of the property. The description uses the metes and bounds method of combining compass directions, physical measurements using standardized measures (chains, links, rods, etc.), and references to natural and manmade objects (trees, rocks, streams, fences, posts, etc.) In some cases, warrants were issued to authorize a survey and the survey never took place. A warrant may also have been signed over to another person. And in some cases, the warrant was issued and the survey was conducted, but the patent was never issued to the individual. LAND RECORDS ONLINE The original documents produced as a result of these land transactions still exist. In fact, the Bureau of Land Management--Eastern States, General and Office has digitized the majority of the land patent records for the following twelve states: Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, and Wisconsin. (Iowa is coming next.) These can be located at their Web site at http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ At this Web site, you have live database and image access to more than 2 million Federal land title records for the Eastern Public Land States, issued between 1820 and 1908. There is a disclaimer on the site which states, "Due to the organization and binding methods utilized by the GLO, the data bases accessible from this Web site currently do not contain every Federal title record issued for the states listed." You start by searching the land patent database. If you know the document number, the patentee's name, the warrantee's name, or the legal description of the tract of land, you may enter one or more of these and start one of two database searches: a genealogical search or a title search. (Note: The search can be restricted to specific counties to fine-tune your inquiry.) The genealogical search presents you with a search results list of Patentee Name, signature date, the document number, the accession number, and buttons allowing you to order a certified copy of the document itself. (More on this later.) The title search provides more information. Here are columns labeled Aliqiot Parts (more on this in a moment), the section township, range, and meridian east or west of which was used to calculate the section, township, range, etc. You may also order a certified copy of the document itself from this screen. On the title search screen, please note that the link in the column labeled Aliquot Parts will present you with another screen. This screen provides details about the patentee, the warrant, whether a metes and bounds survey was performed, and some details about the land tract and the township in which the patent was granted. At the bottom, you can view a digitized version of the document itself on your computer. To do so, you will have had to have downloaded and installed the free image viewer. (The image viewer links with your copy of Netscape 4.0 (or better) or Internet Explorer 4.0 (or better) Web browser.) The digitized documents do require a lot of computer memory (RAM) to view but they are worth the effort to see what information they might contain. You may certainly print a copy of the digitized document, although I must say there were some documents that I found were awkward to work with. If you like what you see, you can certainly order a certified copy of the document from the BLM. The price is $2.00 for each single page; additional copies of the same page are $ .75 each. Orders can be placed through the Web site or by mail. I ordered eleven certified copies and received them two weeks to the day after I ordered them. They were crisp, highly legible copies on 8.5" x 11" paper, embossed with the government seal and with a signed, certification block on the back. QUICK, EASY AND IMPORTANT RECORDS Not only is the BLM's database simple and quick to use, it provides you with conclusive proof of your ancestor's whereabouts at a specific point in time. These land records may provide essential information you need between censuses, and the data is more reliable that a census enumeration. If you know you had an ancestor or relative who purchased a land patent in these eastern states between 1820 and 1908, I encourage you to check the BLM's Web site at: http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/ So much information is being added to the Web each month, and this is an excellent example of what the future will hold for genealogists. Here is quality, digitized information from a U.S. government agency, accessible in a searchable database. It can be viewed, downloaded, printed or certified copies may be ordered. The future is here today. Happy hunting! George ---------- Have any of you used these BLM databases to track down any ancestors, break down any brick walls, or pick up some fascinating stories? Valorie

Forwarded from our Baysinger GenConnect Query Board -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Baysinger Queries Post Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 05:25:14 -0700 Baysinger Queries A new message, "Bassinger," was posted by Glenda Miller LaGasse on Fri, 14 May 1999 --- NAME: Glenda Miller LaGasse EMAIL: [email protected] SURNAMES: Bassinger, Brooks, King, Wolf, Tidwell, Robertson, Miller, Forsythe, White DATE: May 14 1999 QRYTEXT: William P. Basinger, father of Mandy Jane Basinger, came to McNairy Cty in 1837 from Lincoln Cty somewhere around the age of 15. Birth date est at 1822, died 1908 at 84. Daughter Amanda Jane Basinger was my gr gr grandmother. She married John Issac Brooks. Mandy and John had 8 children..Dolph, Cal Donie (my gr grandmother)Mancel, Lou, Cell, Ivy, Hez and Jack. John Issac and mandy are buried in Falcon Cemetary in Selmer. The Brooks side of the family is intact, but I have nothing on Mandy, not much on Mr. Bassinger and nothing on his spouse, siblings or parents.... Any links with this would be appreciated...Happy Hunting!. This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Baysinger Queries: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/Baysinger> Thank you! Posted by listmom Valorie <mailto:[email protected]>

>From our GenConnect Queries board -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Baysinger Queries Post Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 19:00:04 -0700 Baysinger Queries A new message, "J.W. Basinger, Rowan Co. NC," was posted by Kate Brady on Thu, 13 May 1999 --- NAME: Kate Brady EMAIL: [email protected] SURNAMES: Basinger, Brady, Fisher, Stikeleather DATE: May 13 1999 QRYTEXT: I am looking for any information on this family: J.W. BASINGER married Julia Ann Victoria FISHER 11 February 1863, in Rowan County, NC. They had at least one son, Joseph A. Basinger, who married Minnie STIKELEATHER 15 February 1891 in Rowan Co. Joseph and Minnie had three daughters: Mary Louise, Carrie, and Frances. Mary Louise married Charles Monroe BRADY. Any information is most appreciated! Thanks! This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Baysinger Queries: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/Baysinger> Thank you! Forwarded by Listmom Valorie <mailto:[email protected]>

I could see nothing but Protestant churches here, but still, it seems pretty comprehensive. CHURCHSURF. Churches of the world listing hundreds of churches currently on the Internet. ChurchSurf is in other languages including Spanish, German, and French. Surf ChurchSurf through AltaVista's Translation service. Warning: This is in beta. This service does not get all of the words or phrases. <http://www.churchsurf.com/ All the best, Valorie

Names, names, names! Some references from Missing Links Curious where other people with your surname live in the United States? There is a database on the Web with 50,000 of the most common U.S. surnames at this website: <http://hamrick.com/names/> The top 50 surnames of England and Wales are listed at: <http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/England-Surnames/Top50.htm> Check out An Onomastikon (Dictonary of Names) <http://www.fairacre.demon.co.uk/>. This collection of names around the world entertains and educates. Larger libraries usually have several surname dictionaries. Peruse them all. A DICTIONARY OF SURNAMES, by Hanks and Hodges, is helpful, but not all American surnames appear in it. Be sure to check its index where you will find, for example, the surname Eyers referenced to Ayer. Then look up Ayer in the main section for information. For those with suspected German names, consult GERMAN-AMERICAN NAMES, by George F. Jones, and see Elsdon C. Smith's NEW DICTIONARY OF AMERICAN FAMILY NAMES.

EVERTON'S FAMILY HISTORY NEWSLINE Tuesday, 11 May 1999 The U.S. Navy Historical Center The westward advance of the United States frontier is justifiably seen as a continual acquisition of land. But the growth of the United States is even more tied to the sea -- from the first colonists arriving on the eastern shore to the "forty-niners" who arrived on the west coast to the acquisition of Hawaii and other territories in the Pacific. Without sea power, the United States would be far smaller than it is today. The United States Navy has a long and proud history, and there is an abundance of materials for the family historian with a naval connection to use in the search for biographical and "environmental" information on his or her ancestors. One of the best websites to visit to help you learn about that information is maintained by the U.S. Navy Historical Center in the nation's capital. Among the greatest features of this website is its FAQ (answers to Frequently Asked Questions), with over 100 entries addressing Navy subjects as diverse as naval casualties, nurses in the U.S. Navy, the World War 2 Code Talkers, how to locate and use deck logs, Navy and Marine Corps recipients of the Medal of Honor, African Americans in the Navy, and military dog tags. The answers to these and other questions are explained in some detail, with extensive bibliographies allowing you to research each topic in depth. Some entries include individual names and biographical data, but all of the answers act as doorways to libraries of information. Of course, the FAQ is only one of several portions of this excellent site. Other components include information about the Center, its holdings, how to use its facilities, and of course, links to other websites in a similar vein. The website sponsored by the U.S. Navy Historical Center is well worth the visit for anyone with an interest in the history of the United States, whether or not they have a progenitor who served in the Navy. But we should include a word of caution: Even a "short" visit may lead to a much greater investment of your time as you discover the fascinating history of the U.S. Navy and the men and women who served their country in that branch of the military service. Resource: The United States Navy Historical Center Washington Navy Yard 901 M Street SE Washington, DC 20374 http://www.history.navy.mil Copyright 1999, Everton Publishers All rights reserved

Put Something In Draw a crazy picture, Write a nutty poem, Sing a mumble-gumble song, Whistle through your comb. Do a looney-gooney dance 'Cross the kitchen floor, Put something silly in the world That ain't been there before. -Shel Silverstein, who died yesterday

ROOTSWEB AND FAMILYPOINT: snip FamilyPoint trial users feedback Based on the strongly positive response, RootsWeb is going to the next step with FamilyPoint and testing the "RootsWeb Family Community," which is an integration of FamilyPoint into RootsWeb. snip The RootsWeb Family Community answers one of the most repeated comments we heard: "I use RootsWeb for my genealogy research; now I have two places to go." We have taken a first pass at combining our primary navigation into a common page with your day-to-day family information. We believe that this gives you the best of both worlds. You can find this prototype at: <http://rootsweb.familypoint.com/> If you signed up for FamilyPoint, you can use your existing User Name and Password. Check the "Save Password" box the first time you sign in at: <http://rootsweb.familypoint.com/> and the RootsWeb Family Community will become your private extension of RootsWeb allowing you to keep researching your roots while staying in touch with everyone important to you. The RootsWeb Family Community is completely free to our users and families. It provides private areas with features like: o The "Fridge" where users can share notes, stories, recipes, and more. o A photo gallery that lets you privately exchange photos. o Discussion areas by topic. o A calendar that provides an easy way to stay on top of family events with instant notification to others when you schedule an activity. o An e-mail greeting card even using your own photos. o Live chat with family members. o A "family favorites" database where you can store favorite places, recipes, and more along with their descriptions. o An address book where contact information can be shared. If you have time, RootsWeb would appreciate it if you would visit the RootsWeb Family Community area at: <http://rootsweb.familypoint.com/>, sign in as a member, build your site, e-mail your family, look around, and then e-mail us at: <[email protected]> and tell us what you think and what other features you'd like this joint site to have. Joining RootsWeb Family Community (RFC) is completely free to you, and FamilyPoint will continue to donate to RootsWeb for each of our users who join the RFC. It's a win for everyone. --------endquote If you try FamilyPoint, CC the list about your experience, please. I signed up a few weeks ago, but am still too unorganized in my research to make much use of the site. I would like to know how you all use it. All the best, Listmom Valorie PS: If I find that 100% of my list-members are also Rootsweb members, and you all promise to read RWR.....I won't need to forward excerpts! v

WHY DOES ROOTSWEB NEED YOUR SUPPORT? by Dr. Brian Leverich <[email protected]> Sometimes it is difficult for users to understand the costs involved in operating RootsWeb and why it is worth genealogists' time and money to support RootsWeb. For example, take the United States census. RootsWeb is currently providing server support to the USGenWeb Archives and Census Projects as they bring the U.S. census online. Our goal is to have both a searchable index to the census *AND* images of all the pages available on an open basis for all Internet genealogists. Our best estimate is that bringing the census online will require about 3.6 terabytes of data storage. That means we will need about 200 18 GB hard disks, and each of those disks costs about $1,000. That means the data storage alone is going to cost $200,000, and that doesn't include the servers and the bandwidth to make that storage accessible over the Web. Is $200,000 a lot of money? Well, sort of. Regardless of how much they want to help, Karen and Brian couldn't pay for that even if they mortgaged their house and cashed in their pension savings. On the other hand, $200,000 is only about 67 cents per user at RootsWeb. That is about 1/100 of what some commercial firms are charging for data they have locked up in members-only areas. Bringing the U.S. census online is not the only project RootsWeb supports. We are hosting literally hundreds of other data projects, some American and many for other countries (like the British FreeBMD Project). If all (or even if most) of our users were contributors, there is a lot RootsWeb could be doing to accelerate the rate at which public records are brought online and opened to the public. You can help us bring those records online. For details about support levels/benefits and payment options, visit <http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html> or send e-mail to <[email protected]>. The regular mail address is: RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative, P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798. (Please include your e-mail address on all correspondence and checks sent to RootsWeb.) * * * "I AM ONE OF THE 7%" is a message we heard numerous times this week in response to Dr. Leverich's article about who supports RootsWeb. Your response has been encouraging, but growth is still painfully slow. Who are the 7% of users who support RootsWeb? To show our appreciation, RootsWeb has started a voluntary listing of current RootsWeb contributors at any level. To register: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~donors/addme.html>; to see the listing: <http://www.rootsweb.com/~donors/percent.html>. --------- I'm one of the 7%, and I hope each person who reads this will swell that percentage! All the best to all my relations, Valorie, IBSSG Black Diamond, Washington USA

Everton's had the best summation of how to use the beta FamilySearch that I have seen. EVERTON'S FAMILY HISTORY NEWSLINE Monday, 10 May 1999 Planning Ahead for a Trip to a Family History Center It's common knowledge that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City is the world's largest genealogical library. And it is becoming well-known that the Family History Library has over 3,000 branches worldwide, known as Family History Centers. Each of these Centers can request a loan of a microfilm or microfiche from the vast collection of the main library in Salt Lake City, and each of them has its own copy of the Family History Library catalog. Now those of us with a Net connection can check out a beta copy of the Family History Library catalog online at the LDS Church's FamilySearch website. To locate the catalog, click on the "Browse Categories" link on the front page, then on the "Libraries" link on the next page, and finally on the "Family History Library Catalog" link on the next page. The initial selection page shows just two searches, but if you click on the "All Searches" button you get another page with all five of the searches: Author, Film/Fiche Number, Place, Surname, and Call Number. "Author" allows you to type in the personal name of the author of the work, or the corporate name of the company that produced the book. A bit of a wait, and then you get a list of books by that author in the Library's collection. Click on the title-link and you get a more complete display on the book. Strangely enough, film or fiche numbers are not generally on this expanded display, but must be requested by clicking on a "View Film Notes" button. While the extra step makes sense for a very large (multi-roll) film collection, in many cases it would be easier just to list the film number on the "title" page. Of course, this is a beta version of the FamilySearch site, so this situation may change in the future. The "Surname" search is similar, with the search routine looking for all books and films associated with a specific surname. This can return titles that don't even mention the surname directly, but which feature a surname prominently in the book itself. One word of warning: This is a good search tool for a relatively uncommon surname, but for such common names as Smith and Jones, the number of results can be overwhelming. The "Place" search is the Library's locality search engine, allowing you to search for records by country, state or province, county, city, etc. This is an excellent tool for research, but you must keep in mind that records cataloged for a "higher order" locality will probably not be duplicated in "lower order" entries. For example, land records for "Yuba County, California" will probably not appear in listings for "Marysville, Yuba County, California", even though it is certain that many of the deeds in the Yuba County collection refer to land inside the city limits of the county seat. If you already know the number of a roll of microfilm or a sheet of microfiche, you can use the "Film/Fiche" search to look up a description. In the same vein, you can use the "Call Number" search to look up a title by its Family History Library call number. The catalog search is accompanied by online "help" text, but the process will be familiar to anyone who has used the Library's computer or fiche-based catalog at a Family History Center or the main library in Utah. What to do when you find the records you're looking for? Go back the the FamilySearch page for Libraries and search the list of Family History Centers in your state or country. Then use those facilities to borrow a copy of the microfilm from the main library and track your ancestors through the pages of the original records. It's still work, but being able to search the catalog online can save you hours of commute time to the local Center. And that, as the saying goes, is a beautiful thing. Resources: The FamilySearch Website (BETA VERSION) http://www.familysearch.org Copyright 1999, Everton Publishers All rights reserved - ------------------------------------------------------------------ FAMILY HISTORY NEWSLINE is a free daily genealogy news service provided by Everton Publishers P.O. Box 368 Logan, UT 84323 Toll-free: 1-800-443-6325 http://www.everton.com subscribe: <[email protected]> message: subscribe history unsubscribe: <[email protected]> message: unsubscribe history Recent articles are available online at http://www.everton.com/FHN/

This one is a winner. Even the genealogy links are good! Virtual Reference Site The Virtual Reference Site contains over 2,500 of the most popular information reference locations and tools on the Web. The site includes Maps, Facts, Calculators, Dictionaries, Directories, Chat, Travel, Health, Languages, Sports, Calendars, Jobs, Weather, Music, Autos, Humor - plus many, many more helpful tools to assist you. <http://www.dreamscape.com/frankvad/reference.html> All the best, Valorie, IBSSG Black Diamond, Washington USA Proud sponsor of Rootsweb

New query on our GenConnect board -- This one is special to me, 'cause it's *my line!,* and research that I had not been aware of. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Baysinger Queries Post Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:01:51 -0700 Baysinger Queries A new message, "Baysinger,Basinger Line," was posted by Lawrence E. Payne on Mon, 10 May 1999 --- NAME: Lawrence E. Payne EMAIL: [email protected] SURNAMES: Baysinger, Besinger, Boesinger, Laemmer DATE: May 10 1999 QRYTEXT: The three main queries I have about the Baysinger line are the following: 1) Does anyone have proof that the three immigrant Baysingers(Pasingers) were really brothers? Others have already asked this question. 2) Who was the Jacob Baysinger who married Catherine Cash in Rockingham County, Va. and moved to Greene Counyy, Tn? 3) Can anyone trace the ancestry of the line back beyond Alsace? I will give my conjectured answer to these questions, but I have no proof. 1) It seems reasonably clear that Philip Jacob(subsequently referred to as Jacob) and Johan Peter(referred to as Peter) were closely related since they lived near one another in Lancaster County, Pa. and later in Rockingham County, Va. In 1789 Peter petitioned that Jacob be exempted from poll tax in Rockingham County due to infirmity (Minute Book 1778 - 1792). Since both Peter and Jacob had sons named Michael, this might lend some credence to the suggestion that the immigrant Michael was a third brother. Also Peter's oldest son (by his first wife), Peter, eventually moved to Clark County, Ohio as did one of Michael's sons. I believe that the three immigrants were closely related - probably brothers. 2) This Jacob lived among the children of Jacob, the immigrant, but there is no baptismal record for him in the Trinity Lutheran Church in Lancaster, Pa. where many of the other children of Jacob Sr. were baptized. We know that Jacob Sr.was married in Alsace and had at least one child baptized there. Perhaps Jacob Jr. was born before Jacob Sr,'s family came to America, but a book on the life of Lieutenant William Basinger who died at Dade's Massacre states that William's father, Peter, was the eldest son of the immigrant (Jacob). My guess is that this latter statement is incorrect and that the Jacob who married Catherine Cash was the son of Jacob the immigrant, born before the immigrants came to America. 3) The breakthrough on the European origins of the Baysingers came with the book "18th century immigrants from the Northern Alsace to America" by Annette Kunselman Bargert (1992). In it we find a record of the marriage on 27 Oct 1767 in Kutzenhausen in Alsace of Philip Jacob Besinger and Maria Dorothea Dreher. We also find that Jacob's father is named Jacob, and that he is a herdsman in Hermersweiler. I some time back ordered microfilms of church records for towns near Kutzenhausen and found in the Prueschdorf records a Valentin Boesinger and wife Maria Eva Haas, with children Maria Dorothea, Daniel(born 1775) and Johan Peter (born 1777). Valentin was a herdsman in Lampertsloch. Recall that the immigrant Johan Peter had a son Valentine and a grandson Daniel. This added to the fact that Valentin was a herdsman suggests that he was a son of Jacob Sr. and a brother of the immigrant Johan Peter. In the Oberbetschdorf records I found a Susanna Boesinger listed as the daughter of Ja! cob of Hermersweiler and his wife Margaret Laemmer. Susanna (1744 - 1829) married Phillip Henry Marzolf in 1777, and the names of their children are listed. She is definitely a sister of Philip Jacob. Has anyone pursued a further search of Northern Alsace church records? My guess is that the Boesingers(Besingers, Baysingers) came from around Switzerland (possibly near Bern)to Alsace in the early 1700's. There seems to have been a migration of Swiss into the Alsace at about that time. However, this is just a guess based partly on the fact that there were many Boesingers in Switzerland in the 1600's.. This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Baysinger Queries: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/Baysinger> Thank you! Posted by Listmom Valorie -- mailto:[email protected]

New on our GenConnect Query board: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New Baysinger Queries Post Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:18:34 -0700 Baysinger Queries A new message, "William BASINGER b1820 Breckinridge Co., KY," was posted by John Blake on Mon, 10 May 1999 --- NAME: John Blake EMAIL: [email protected] SURNAMES: BASINGER, BLAKE, THOMAS DATE: May 10 1999 QRYTEXT: William BASINGER b1820 in KY md Elizabeth Thomas b1819 in KY. Two daughters, Elizabeth "Betty Jane" BASINGER b1843 and Martha Ellen BASINGER b1852/53 both married Reuben Pleasant BLAKE (my great grandfather). Their brother George W. BASINGER b1856 md. Biddie Vine BLAKE. Would like more information on these families.. This is an automatically-generated notice. If you wish to respond to this message, please post your response directly to the Baysinger Queries: <http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/bay/Baysinger> Thank you! Posted by Listmom Valorie -- mailto:[email protected]

One of our subscribers asked about accessing the list archives. I decided to see what was actually IN our threaded archives, and discovered I had omitted the crucial step of requesting registration! That has been taken care of, and our list is officially being archived. By tomorrow evening (maybe sooner) you should be able to click <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BAYSINGER-L> and access all our posts. No more worries about missing something when your server is down, or you unsub for vacation. You can always search all the threaded archives by clicking <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> To quote Sunni Bloyd: "To use the Archiver you will need to pick a user name and password and you will need to accept a cookie. The reason for passwords and cookies is to keep spammers' e-mail address harvesters *out* of the archives. Because of this password-and-cookie feature, listowners can set up lists to be archived with confidence that they are *not* exposing posters' addresses to spammers....Thanks to Marc Nozell for implementing the threaded archives. It's great work." To search all rootsweb list messages, old and new, http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl/ The services Rootsweb provides for the genealogical community are truly awesome! All the best, Listmom Valorie Zimmerman, IBSSG Proud sponsor of Rootsweb

Hello, everyone! You probably have all gotten a private invitation letter from me, and perhaps more than one. I apologize for the duplicates.....I tried to weed them out. I'm thrilled to see all of you here. My family is getting tired of me cheering each time I get a new subscriber! I hope to hear from each of you in the near future, with queries, questions, stories about your families, discriptions of your genealogy websites, and so forth. I would like us all to be friends.....We're all at least *distant* relatives. My goal for this list is that we all find our HOW we are related, find new relations, and locate more ancestors! If you want to see what you've *already* missed, check the list archives! There's a spam attack against some of the lists on Rootsweb, lately. Hopefully, being new, our list will escape the attack. *If spammed on this list* -- Do NOT respond on the list! You may either forward the post **with FULL headers** to Tim Pierce at [email protected], or just forward it to me, or complain to me, or whatever. If you read it on the list, everyone else already has had to read it, and doesn't want to hear you complain about it! If all this tires you out just reading it.....You've been on lists and newsgroups before, and are just sick of spam. Pushing the delete key is really the easiest thing. Under No Circumstances respond to the spammer, on or off the list! Other NO NOs.....Do NOT ever send the entire digest back to the list in a reply. This is a personal bugabear. I hope that you won't even send whole messages back to the list, unless the entire thing is needed for reference. The taglines should NEVER be sent back. Learn to edit creatively! (On the other hand, do use short quotes when responding to someone on list. Some people get a LOT of mail, and just the answer, with no question, is very puzzling sometimes.) I'll write separately about virus warnings, chain letters, urban legends and other list-trash. Quoting Cheryl McCombs: "For more information on these types of messages, check out this page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~cmccombs/vrscntr.htm>. I have placed several urls there pertaining to the subject. "If people would just take the time to *think and check it out*, before hitting the panic button, then it would save thousands of useless messages from being processed! Remember that you can't help people by giving them false information. Check your information! Find the facts FIRST!" I'm really open to suggestions, and offers of help. I would like to start a website for both my lists, McBee-L and Baysinger-L, with easy links to the GenConnect boards, other commonly used genealogical links, lists of researchers and their lines, and so forth. When you visit a website you particularly like, forward the URL to me, would you? I don't know anything about HTML, but I guess I'm going to learn, unless someone steps forward and offers to be webmaster/mistress? Have you any suggestions about the way the list is formatted? I have 10 taglines I can fill any way I like.....So far I have 5 that each rotate twice. Send me your suggestions -- Mailto:[email protected] Finally, if any of you are NOT Rootsweb supporters -- which you do NOT have to be, to get this list, or use GenConnect -- you are missing the boat, genealogically. Visit <http://www.rootsweb.com> to find out what you're missing! All the best to all my relations, Valorie, IBSSG Black Diamond, Washington USA Proud sponsor of Rootsweb, which provides this list to you!

Hello List, I am Kathryn Gardei in Ohio. I am so happy to see a Baysinger List. I hope it will be an active and informative list. Thank you Valorie. I am researching Michael Basinger who is reported to be one of the three brothers to come on the Minerva in 1770. Brothers Philip Jacob and Johan Peter. It is said that my Michael, who moved to Fayette Co. Pa., was this Michael. What I need are some proofs of this. Records of my Michael prove he was from Lancaster Co. Pa. but have found nothing that proves, to me, that he was of the three brothers. I know that the names of all three families are mostly the same, which is good, but that happens in a lot of unrelated families too. Is anyone able to relieve this sticking point for me. Thanks Kath

Hello, I'm the proud new Listmom, Valorie Cowan Zimmerman. My mother's mother was a Baysinger, and I have Lola Corene Baysinger Wagner's Baysinger book, and family group sheets compiled by Paul Montgomery and others. I'm sure a tremendous amount of research has been done since the publishing of Lola Wagner's book, and I hope that the members of this list post their research results here on the list, and on the GenConnect boards. Since this list has not yet been publicly announced, all of you presently subscribed got an invitation letter from me, and know how to subscribe (and unsubscribe), how to post, where the GenConnect boards are, and so forth. Feel free to send invitations to join the list to any Baysinger researchers you know, or send their email addresses to me. I hope in the near future to establish a website as a home for the list and GenConnect boards, and all of you researchers. Please offer your help if you have any expertise in this area! I look forward to seeing all of your research results, and hearing your stories. I hope that this list can help link us living relatives, and help us all find our ancestors! If you have missed posts, check out the Rootsweb archives. If you go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/McBee-L/>, you should be able to see all the posts to our list since the registration was done. If you go to <http://archiver.rootsweb.com/archives/search.html> you can search in all Rootsweb lists. I will be posting my own line and queries soon! All the best, Listmama Valorie Cowan McBee Zimmerman, IBSSG Proud new listowner of Baysinger-L and McBee-L Black Diamond, Washington USA Proud sponsor of Rootsweb