In a message dated 11/10/2006 2:10:43 AM Central Standard Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: > I'm going > through the list archives, and finding lots of great stuff. It's a mess > right > now, so still in draft stage, and unviewable. My notes on Elias -- use as needed. I'ld love to see any other notes on him. Take care. Marilyn 1850 census Schuyler County, Missouri District 91, page 90 Peter Basinger, age 43, farmer, $300, VA Elizabeth, age 37, KY **Elias H., age 17, KY Eva Jane, age 15, IL Catherine A., age 13, IL Peter, age 11, KY William H., age 10, KY Elizabeth, age 8, IL Oregon, age 6, IL Nancy M., age 4, IN Zachary L., age 1, IA Warren County Advocate Tribune 9-30-1886 reports death of pioneer Peter Baysinger in Weede Co., Colorado. on Sept 9, 1886 Old Settlers of Warren County, Iowa. Elias Baysinger to County 1849 Warren County, Iowa records show a marriage 9 July 1854 by William P. Jenkins, J.P., for Margaret Jones and Elias Henry Baysinger (Certificate #11). I also have information that Elias H. Baysinger was in Kansas 1854-1860, and that the couple was divorced in Kansas. Terri Malinosky < terrim@accessone.com> 8-21-1854 Book C Pg 403 Warren County, Iowa. Peter Baysinger) put up collateral to Elias for, four head of horses, four yoke of oxen, two cows and calves, two yearling calves in exchange for $500 at 6% interest. Warren County Iowa History DesMoines 1870 Otter Township states E.H. Baysinger farmer and brick-maker, Sec. 4. was born in Breckenridge county, Kentucky, in 1833 and removed to Illinois in 1835 and afterwards to Indiana and came to this county first in 1852. He is a farmer and owns 90 acres of land. He spent six years in Kansas from 1854-1860 and was in the John Brown Raid.(My note: THERE IS NO RECORD OF THIS AT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES). After his return to this county, he engaged in brick-making and has made the largest portion of the brick used in the buildings of Indianola. He has held township offices. 1854, Elias moved with his family to Prairie City Kansas and had a "mechanical shop". This is a family story but note that he was buying cattle etc this same year in Warren County, Iowa Kansas Voter Registration Lists, 1854-56 Surname Given Name CITY District/County Precinct/Township Election Date Page # Baysinger E H 4 Prairie City January 15, 1856 774 Baysinger E. H. 4 Prairie City December 15, 1855 729 Baysinger Peter 4 Prairie City December 15, 1855 729 Bassinger Peter 4 Willow Springs October 9, 1855 673 1860 census -- not found Warren County, Iowa Marriage records Book 1 page 103 Elias Baysinger married Sarah Goosic 1870 census Otter Twp., Warren County, IA page 9 June 1870-- next door to the Andrew Goosic family -- family of his wife Elias Baysinger, age 36, farmer, KY, $1000/$515 Sarah, age 27, OH Phebe, age 12, IA Mary, age 6, IA Sarah, age 4, IA Peter, age 3, IA William, age 6 months, born December, IA James Higgins, age 18, farm laborer 9-4-1872 Warranty Deed Book, Warren County, Iowa. Andrew and Julia Goosic sold land to Elias Baysinger for $500. Center of section five in Twp.. 75 range 23 west History of Warren County by Rev. Martin-The great Centennial Storm, Most Destructive in History 1876 Pg 146, Elias Baysinger's house blown to atoms. His family, eight in number,were in the house when the storm struck. One boy was badly injured. 1880 Census Place: Otter, Warren, Iowa Source: FHL Film 1254368 National Archives Film T9-0368 Page 438D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Elias H. BASINGER Self M M W 58 OH Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: KY Sarah M. BASINGER Wife F M W 38 OH Fa: OH Mo: OH Mary E. BASINGER Dau F S W 16 IA Fa: OH Mo: OH Sarah F. BASINGER Dau F S W 14 IA Fa: OH Mo: OH Peter A. BASINGER Son M S W 12 IA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: OH Mo: OH Elias W. BASINGER Son M S W 10 IA Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: OH Mo: OH John A. BASINGER Son M S W 8 IA Fa: OH Mo: OH Eddy B. BASINGER Dau F S W 6 IA Fa: OH Mo: OH James A. BASINGER Son M S W 3 IA Fa: OH Mo: OH Elias and Sarah had their last child October 1, 1882, Laura, in Warren Co.., IA. The baby lived 4 hours and she and her mom, Sarah, died the same day. Sarah's cause of death was "bowel obstruction" Otter Twp., Warren Co., IA death records Book 1 page 28 Warren County HISTORY 1987 (FROM JAN 16 1941 ARTICLE) When the original contractor for making the bricks for Warren County's first courthouse threw up the contract with the building incomplete, John S. Borrall, Elias Baysinger and Israel Goodman formed a company and took the contract to complete the bricks for the building. At that time John Borrall owned the acres on which Simpson College stands, so their brickmaking equipment was moved to that location and the mud used in the bricks was made from that ground. Warren County. Newspaper 3-28-1886 Elias and others have petitioned for a school house for district #4. They have 28 scholars. (My note: this is now a school museum at the Iowa State Fairgrounds) Warren County Newspaper 2-18-1886 "Elias and Lydia married last wk in Mo. A guardian had been appt. for her that she was not competent to manage property. Her neighbors say a great injustice was done by appointment of a guardian and his treatment of her and her property. He made a futile attempt to prevent her marriage only to be laughed at for his pains. Indianola Weekly 3-19-1891 Andrew Goosic wrote to Elias for help. They had been out of flour for 3 days Elias sent them $5.00 June 1895 Dept of the Interior Land patent Book 46 page 422 Warren County, Iowa to Elias Baysinger for160 acres #31986 1895 Iowa Census Elias Baysinger 62 ?? W Warren Otter Lydia A. Baysinger 46 Ind W Warren Otter Henry Baysinger 8 Warren ?? W Warren Otter Nancy Baysinger 5 Warren ?? W Warren Otter Wm Abs Scott 14 Warren ?? W Warren Otter 1900 Census Warren County, Iowa Otter Twp.. ED 139 Sheet 1, line 54 Elias Baysinger, Dec 1832, age 67, married 13 years, Ky, Ky, Ky, farmer, could read and write, owned farm free of mortgage Lydia, wife, Aug 1849, age 50, mother of 3 children, 3 living, Ind, Ind, Ind William A, son, Feb 1881, age 19, Iowa, Ky, Ind, farm laborer Isaac H, son, May 1888, age 12, Iowa, Ky, Ind, School Nancy A., daughter, July 1889, age 10, Iowa, Ky, Ind. School Peter A., son, Oct, 1867, age 32, divorced, Iowa, Ky, Oh, blacksmith All in the household could read and write His daughter and son in law Sarah and Jeff Byers lived next door. John Baysinger and his family lived on the next farm and next to him was James Baysinger.. History of Warren County, Iowa Indianola 1896 Otter Two. E. H. Baysinger had five in household. Lived in Indianola post office district plot SE sec 5 266 acres. There is a picture of him in this book of which I made a copy. Warren County, Iowa Death Records Book 2 page 9 Elias Baysinger died Otter Twp., November 8, 1900 of Cholera 1-9-1901 Will proved Warren County, Iowa Peter A Baysinger and Elias W. Baysinger were executors. Will states all property in wife's name to remain hers and at her death to be equally divided between their 3 children, William A, Isaac H and Nancy A. It further states that wife, Mary J. Baysinger to receive 2 bay mares "Tobe and Belle". The remainder of his real estate, 213 acres to be equally divided between his children: Peter, Elias, John, James, Phoebe Snyder, Mary Ellen Sipault, Sarah Frances Byers, Ada Belle Dilley and Ferris I Baysinger. It is unclear as to who Mary J, his wife is. In mentioning "their 3 children William A, Isaac and Nancy" Isaac and Nancy are supposedly children of Elias and Lydia but the only explanation I have for the Mary J. is that it was actually Mary L (Lydia) and difficult to read. William in census records was too old to be a child of that marriage unless a child of Lydia from a previous marriage. Indianola Cemetery, Old City Section, Indianola, iowa Row 5 south to north E. H. Baysinger on same stone with Sarah M, his wife. Stone says father and mother.

In my pursuit of Elias BAYSINGER, I've been searching list archives. The new archiver search engine is so nifty, because it will search ALL lists. See what I came up with, from the INDELAWA list (Delaware Co. Indiana). Cindy Kimes <ckimes@mvillage.com> did the lookups; I don't know what book. I'm sure you can get that info from the INDELAWA archives. :-) << ... > my lookup request > is for Peter Baisinger (also Basinger, Baysinger, etc.). Both he and his > two wives are buried in Delaware County. I'd like some biography > information, if available. I suspect he is a brother to my ancestor > Henry. > Only one mention of Peter Basinger on p. 97 as follows: "Peter Basinger, missing at Chickamauga September 12, 1863." He was listed as a Private in Company B of the Thirty-Sixth Regiment, mustered into service at Richmond, Sept 16, 1861; William Grose, Colonel. It goes on to tell about the different battles, etc. they took part in. The only other Baisinger mentioned in the book was Nathan. >> Here is his entry in the Soldiers & Sailors database ( http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/ ): Peter Basinger Regiment Name 36 Indiana Infantry Side Union Company B Soldier's Rank_In Private Soldier's Rank_Out Private Alternate Name Peter/Baisinger Notes Film Number M540 roll 4 You can click on the Regiment button on the CWSS site and get a description of battles the Regt. fought in. -- All my pages: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com

I've corrected that typo, and am now deep into the Elias stuff. I'm going through the list archives, and finding lots of great stuff. It's a mess right now, so still in draft stage, and unviewable. It won't take too long to lick into shape I hope. Valorie On Thursday 09 November 2006 3:14 pm, Teresa Malinowski wrote: > In reviewing the blog re: John Baysinger and his wives, Viola and > Minnie, I found only one miniscule error, according to my files. My > parents, Arthur Baysinger and Sylvia V. Hanousek, were married 5 June, > 1925, rather than 25 June, 1925. > > Otherwise, an excellent summary of the available information, including > your sleuthing of John Baysinger's 1930 and 1900 census entries under > the mis-spelled versions of his surname. Also your inclusion of the > birth of John Baysinger's second child with Viola Stephens, (Evada) > Florence on 27 May 1896, occuring after John and Viola were divorced 20 > November 1893 and after John had married Minnie Disney 24 April 1894. > > Terri Baysinger Malinowski > > On Nov 7, 2006, at 3:31 AM, valoriez@zimres.net wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, Northway > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused me > > to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. > > > > http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola-minnie- > > and.html > > > > I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only blog, > > the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also indexed it > > here: > > > > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex > > > > Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie > > DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch of > > Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any corrections > > or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur Baysinger, Carl > > Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft Registrations, and images of > > the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 too. > > > > Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being > > researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more > > about that, Terri?

In reviewing the blog re: John Baysinger and his wives, Viola and Minnie, I found only one miniscule error, according to my files. My parents, Arthur Baysinger and Sylvia V. Hanousek, were married 5 June, 1925, rather than 25 June, 1925. Otherwise, an excellent summary of the available information, including your sleuthing of John Baysinger's 1930 and 1900 census entries under the mis-spelled versions of his surname. Also your inclusion of the birth of John Baysinger's second child with Viola Stephens, (Evada) Florence on 27 May 1896, occuring after John and Viola were divorced 20 November 1893 and after John had married Minnie Disney 24 April 1894. Terri Baysinger Malinowski On Nov 7, 2006, at 3:31 AM, valoriez@zimres.net wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, Northway > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 > > Message Board Post: > > Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused me > to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. > > http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola-minnie- > and.html > > I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only blog, > the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also indexed it > here: > > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex > > Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie > DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch of > Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any corrections > or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur Baysinger, Carl > Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft Registrations, and images of > the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 too. > > Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being > researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more > about that, Terri? > > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Valerie, I will try to do that this weekend. I have everything going back to Russia and then it skips a few generations there, but it really doesn't matter since only one Bossinger (Bessinger in my case) family went to the Volga region from Germany and they came from Florstadt, Germany. I haven't gone back further, but I believe they all did come from Alsace and moved out. Someday.... LOL Interesting that my other line, the Otts came from Bern, Switzerland and went through Russia only to end up in Bern, MI! They probably followed relatives, at least that is my theory. I haven't seen anyone post from the Volga line on here, but you never know. I found a SC Bessinger one day on a board for a show on ABC! You never know where you'll find a long lost cousin. Suzanne ----- Original Message ----- From: Valorie Zimmerman <valoriez@zimres.net> Date: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:04 pm Subject: Re: [Baysinger] John BAYSINGER, Viola, Minnie and the children To: baysinger@rootsweb.com > On Tuesday 07 November 2006 5:29 am, zannemar@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > > You've never found census records for John's father? > > Yes, we have some records all the way back to the Alsace. However, > I want to > make sure that ALL the relevant records are in order. The online > stuff is > easy, so that comes first. > > > It would be > > interesting to see if they came from Germany or Russia (the Volga > > Germans who settled there). All of the places they lived have > > settlements of Volga Germans. If they are Baysingers, also look for > > the spellings Bessinger, Besinger, Basinger, Bassinger and > Bossinger.> The original spelling was an o as an umlaut and > pronounced ay, hence > > your spelling. My family was Bessinger and they were from the Volga > > Germans, which was why I recognized all of the places your > family lived > > (including Alberta). Also, the first names in your family are also > > prominent in mine (this may or may not mean anything as so many of > > these were carried on from Germany). But I also had a great > aunt Viola > > and Sylvia. They aren't directly your family, but considering > they all > > had about ten boys and a few girls, it's possible that it is another > > line. > > As I understand the story, my grandfather (a McBEE) met someone > who sold him a > dream in Alberta, so they sold the place in Warren Co. IA and > moved north in > a train of steam tractors and wagons and all 7 children. My aunt > Lea was > born "on the road" in Alberta, and the next three children were > born in AB > also. > > > Here's another hint, if that is the case. All of them would > have had > > the same real first name (for instance Henry in my family) and would > > have gone by their middle names. So, in records you find them both > > ways. That was also a German custom, so if you can find out the > > father's family, you will probably see that pattern emerge and > you can > > find much more. > > Right, what we see as the German first name is usually the > baptismal name. For > more on German naming, see Naming customs in Germany and France: > http://valoriez.blogspot.com/2004/02/naming-customs-in-germany-and- > france.html > > Were they Catholics? If not, if they were Lutherans and they > did come > > from the Volga settlements in Russia, they would have come from > Kukkus> or Stahl am Tarlyk. As far as I know, those were the only > settlements> of Bossingers there (of any spelling of the name). > In Germany, they > > were at least in Florstadt. If they were anywhere else, I haven't > > found it in my search. > > Most of the Baysinger/Basingers posting to this list have been of > the Alsace > line. I believe that these were originally Besinger and came from > Switzerland, but I'm a long ways from proving THAT. > > I hope that you will post more about your Volga Russian Bossingers > here. > :-) > > Valorie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: valoriez@zimres.net > > Date: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:33 am > > Subject: [Baysinger] John BAYSINGER, Viola, Minnie and the children > > To: BAYSINGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing > list.> > > > > Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, > Northway> > Classification: Query > > > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 > > > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > > > Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused > > > me to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. > > > > > > http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola- > minnie- > > > and.html > > > I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only > > > blog, the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also > > > indexed it here: > > > > > > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex > > > > > > Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie > > > DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch > > > of Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any > > > corrections or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur > > > Baysinger, Carl Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft > > > Registrations, and images of the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 > > > too. > > > Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being > > > researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more > > > about that, Terri? > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BAYSINGER- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The Warren County (Iowa) Genealogy Society, more specifically one of its members, has been researching Elias Baysinger, father of John Baysinger, as a research project for her society. She has not passed along any information yet, but I am hopeful. But, yes, we have census records for Elias Henry Baysinger, the latest being the 1895 Iowa State Census and the 1900 Federal census. Some of the descendants have visited or contacted the hamlets of Hermersweiler and Kutzenhausen in Alsace where there are records of Jacob Besinger and Margaret Laemmer, parents of Johann Peter, Jacob and Philip Boesinger, who subsequently immigrated to America in 1770. Johann Peter is the direct ancestor of Elias Henry Baysinger. The person who has the definitive genealogy on these Baysingers is Lawrence Payne in New York, another Baysinger descendant. He theorizes these Baysingers originally came from Switzerland. Terri Malinowski . On Nov 7, 2006, at 3:31 AM, valoriez@zimres.net wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, Northway > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 > > Message Board Post: > > Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused me > to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. > > http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola-minnie- > and.html > > I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only blog, > the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also indexed it > here: > > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex > > Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie > DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch of > Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any corrections > or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur Baysinger, Carl > Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft Registrations, and images of > the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 too. > > Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being > researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more > about that, Terri? > > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Tuesday 07 November 2006 5:29 am, zannemar@tampabay.rr.com wrote: > You've never found census records for John's father? Yes, we have some records all the way back to the Alsace. However, I want to make sure that ALL the relevant records are in order. The online stuff is easy, so that comes first. > It would be > interesting to see if they came from Germany or Russia (the Volga > Germans who settled there). All of the places they lived have > settlements of Volga Germans. If they are Baysingers, also look for > the spellings Bessinger, Besinger, Basinger, Bassinger and Bossinger. > The original spelling was an o as an umlaut and pronounced ay, hence > your spelling. My family was Bessinger and they were from the Volga > Germans, which was why I recognized all of the places your family lived > (including Alberta). Also, the first names in your family are also > prominent in mine (this may or may not mean anything as so many of > these were carried on from Germany). But I also had a great aunt Viola > and Sylvia. They aren't directly your family, but considering they all > had about ten boys and a few girls, it's possible that it is another > line. As I understand the story, my grandfather (a McBEE) met someone who sold him a dream in Alberta, so they sold the place in Warren Co. IA and moved north in a train of steam tractors and wagons and all 7 children. My aunt Lea was born "on the road" in Alberta, and the next three children were born in AB also. > Here's another hint, if that is the case. All of them would have had > the same real first name (for instance Henry in my family) and would > have gone by their middle names. So, in records you find them both > ways. That was also a German custom, so if you can find out the > father's family, you will probably see that pattern emerge and you can > find much more. Right, what we see as the German first name is usually the baptismal name. For more on German naming, see Naming customs in Germany and France: http://valoriez.blogspot.com/2004/02/naming-customs-in-germany-and-france.html > Were they Catholics? If not, if they were Lutherans and they did come > from the Volga settlements in Russia, they would have come from Kukkus > or Stahl am Tarlyk. As far as I know, those were the only settlements > of Bossingers there (of any spelling of the name). In Germany, they > were at least in Florstadt. If they were anywhere else, I haven't > found it in my search. Most of the Baysinger/Basingers posting to this list have been of the Alsace line. I believe that these were originally Besinger and came from Switzerland, but I'm a long ways from proving THAT. I hope that you will post more about your Volga Russian Bossingers here. :-) Valorie > ----- Original Message ----- > From: valoriez@zimres.net > Date: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:33 am > Subject: [Baysinger] John BAYSINGER, Viola, Minnie and the children > To: BAYSINGER-L@rootsweb.com > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, Northway > > Classification: Query > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused > > me to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. > > > > http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola-minnie- > > and.html > > I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only > > blog, the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also > > indexed it here: > > > > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex > > > > Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie > > DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch > > of Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any > > corrections or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur > > Baysinger, Carl Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft > > Registrations, and images of the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 > > too. > > Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being > > researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more > > about that, Terri?

You've never found census records for John's father? It would be interesting to see if they came from Germany or Russia (the Volga Germans who settled there). All of the places they lived have settlements of Volga Germans. If they are Baysingers, also look for the spellings Bessinger, Besinger, Basinger, Bassinger and Bossinger. The original spelling was an o as an umlaut and pronounced ay, hence your spelling. My family was Bessinger and they were from the Volga Germans, which was why I recognized all of the places your family lived (including Alberta). Also, the first names in your family are also prominent in mine (this may or may not mean anything as so many of these were carried on from Germany). But I also had a great aunt Viola and Sylvia. They aren't directly your family, but considering they all had about ten boys and a few girls, it's possible that it is another line. Here's another hint, if that is the case. All of them would have had the same real first name (for instance Henry in my family) and would have gone by their middle names. So, in records you find them both ways. That was also a German custom, so if you can find out the father's family, you will probably see that pattern emerge and you can find much more. Were they Catholics? If not, if they were Lutherans and they did come from the Volga settlements in Russia, they would have come from Kukkus or Stahl am Tarlyk. As far as I know, those were the only settlements of Bossingers there (of any spelling of the name). In Germany, they were at least in Florstadt. If they were anywhere else, I haven't found it in my search. ----- Original Message ----- From: valoriez@zimres.net Date: Tuesday, November 7, 2006 6:33 am Subject: [Baysinger] John BAYSINGER, Viola, Minnie and the children To: BAYSINGER-L@rootsweb.com > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, Northway > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 > > Message Board Post: > > Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused > me to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. > > http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola-minnie- > and.html > I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only > blog, the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also > indexed it here: > > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex > > Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie > DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch > of Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any > corrections or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur > Baysinger, Carl Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft > Registrations, and images of the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 > too. > Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being > researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more > about that, Terri? > > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BAYSINGER- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Baysinger, Beysinger, Bayesger, Stephens, Disney, Northway Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/242 Message Board Post: Laurene Nash wrote me recently about Carl Baysinger, which caused me to look up some more records and bring my blog post up to date. http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/john-baysinger-viola-minnie-and.html I have been moving all the updated posts to my genealogy only blog, the Genweblog: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/ . I've also indexed it here: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/genweblogindex Anyway, back to John and his two wives, Viola STEPHENS and Minnie DISNEY, and children. Please read the post if this is your branch of Baysingers, and reply on the blog or here if you have any corrections or questions. There are links to the images of Arthur Baysinger, Carl Baysinger, and Fred Northway's WWI Draft Registrations, and images of the family in 1900, 1910, 1920 & 1930 too. Next I want to do the family of Elias, whom I understand is being researched in Warren Co. IA too. Do you want to tell the list more about that, Terri?

Judy has asked me to pass this along to you all. Please contact her privately if you have questions about the photographs. This seems to be Albert and Mary in the 1930 Census: Name: Albert Bessinger Home in 1930: North Collins, Erie, New York Age: 61 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's name: Mary Race: White Household Members: Name Age Albert Bessinger 61 Mary Bessinger 56 This is perhaps their son Albert in 1920? Name: Albert Bessinger Home in 1920: Collins, Erie, New York Age: 28 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Hired Man Father's Birth Place: New York Mother's Birth Place: New York Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Image: 478 Household Members: Name Age George N Boardway 60 Florence M Boardway 30 Albert Bessinger 28 Yes, because here they all are together in 1910: Name: Albert Bessinger Age in 1910: 44 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: New York Relation to Head of House: Head Father's name: Peter Father's Birth Place: Germany Mother's Birth Place: Germany Spouse's name: Mary Home in 1910: North Collins, Erie, New York Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Albert Bessinger 44 Mary Bessinger 36 Albert Bessinger 15 Florenz Bessinger 14 Loretta Bessinger 12 Hugo Bessinger 7 Vicktoria Bessinger 3 Hermania Bessinger 1 2/12 Peter Bessinger 73 And in 1900: Name: Albert H Bessinger Home in 1900: North Collins, Erie, New York Age: 31 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Birthplace: New York Relationship to head-of-house: Head Spouse's name: Mary W Race: White Household Members: Name Age Albert H Bessinger 31 Mary W Bessinger 26 Albert J Bessinger 5 Florena Bessinger 4 Lauretta Bessinger 2 So perhaps the photo that Judy rescued was their wedding or engagement photograph. Valorie ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: [BESINGER] OLD BESSENGER CABINET CARD PHOTO FOUND IN TEXAS Date: Tuesday 31 October 2006 5:53 am From: JMJE36@aol.com To: BESINGER@rootsweb.com Dear List,   I have rescued (in a large number of identified photos from the Buffalo area) a photo of Mary & Albert Bessenger.  My guess is that this photo was taken in the 1890's.  The photographer was "Schmid" and was located at "Cor. Main & Genesee Sts., Buffalo, N.Y." NOTE: Different spelling of this surname. This photo shows a dark haired couple:  he is sitting in what appears to be a ratan type chair.  He has on a dark suit, with a large flower arrangement on his lapel.  She is standing and also has a large flower arrangement of some sort pinned to the bodice on her dress.  The outfit that Mary is wearing is a two-piece and dark colored.   It has large white lace at the neck, on the front of the bodice, and at the cuffs.The photo is in excellent condition, with no tears, fading or other types of damage.  The image is pristine. I try to rescue and return old family cabinet card photos that are identified.  Precious few have any  ID, and I know they would be a treasure to somebody out there.  I hate to seem them lost forever, thus my small effort to save the past. Regards,  Judy in TX ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BESINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Schneider, Snider, Snyder Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/lkC.2ACIB/1.3.4.5.6.36.37.39.2.1 Message Board Post: Please tell me about your Leo Snyder. Our Schneider, Snider, & Snyder. From hessen cassel, germany. joAnn e-mail jobobvilla@peoplepc.com

Hi all, it seems that our list has been migrated to the new system, and all is well. Please report any problems privately, to the -admin address (listname-admin@rootsweb.com, no -L, no -D). And speaking of no -L, no -D: if you have not yet added our listname without the -L to your addressbook, do so now while you are thinking of it. Don't remove the old one yet, since some people will still use the old address, and that will work for awhile. Now, as for Digests -- you can no longer subscribe to both the list posts and the digests with the same email address. If you formerly were, you have lost your digest at this point. Because of the way that the new list software handles the lists, you will have to sub to the digests with an alternate address. If you need a free gmail account, write to me at valorie dot zimmerman at gmail dot com and I will send you an invitation. Hotmail and Yahoo will also work. Finally, if you like the way the digests now arrive, great! If you would prefer MIME digests, which are easier for some OE users, please drop a note to the -admin address and I will change you over to MIME digests. Valorie

This is from Joan, who is one of the beta testers of the new list system, and also the knowledgeable administrator of the Rootsweb AOLers list. Please follow her sound advice: After your lists are migrated it is imperative for AOL users to check their spam folders and if they find list mail there they need to be sure to CLICK THE *THIS IS NOT SPAM* link to send the list mail to the inbox. It is VERY important to help train the filters and let AOL know that this new server can be trusted. See the Archives of the AOLers list or join it if you have further questions about this. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/RootsWeb_Support/AOLers-RootsWeb.html Valorie

Hi, all. Rootsweb is moving to a new list system, and our list is scheduled to be moved with the first group. You may notice nothing, or some small differences. You probably got an email from "announce@mail.rootsweb.com" explaining what was happening, unless it landed in your SPAM folder. If you need to see the entire email, please contact me privately. However, here is a list of the changes you might notice: 1. Digest subscribers will notice a small difference in the layout, volume and issue numbers of the list digests. If your digests arrive in a different format than you are used to and you would like it changed, contact me privately at the list admin address, which stays the same: LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com. Also, if you run into any unusual or confusing occurrences with mail from this list that could possibly be related to the changeover, let me know at the admin address. 2. The "-L" is being dropped from the official list name. This means the "from" address your mailing list emails come from will be slightly different- ListName@rootsweb.com instead of the current ListName-L@rootsweb.com. ** You may have to adjust your spam filters or put the new address on your "accept" list to prevent it from being caught in your "junk" folder. ** If you use email headers to filter list mail to a special folder in your email program, check whether your filters will need tweaking under the new system. 3. If you previously subscribed to the list in both L and D modes using the same email address you will find that you are no longer subbed in Digest mode. The new software doesn't permit the same address to be subbed in both L and D modes. Therefore, if you wish to receive both modes, you will need to subscribe to the digests using a different email address. Write to me at valorie dot zimmerman at gmail dot com if you would like an invite to gmail, one of the free email systems available. Yahoo and Hotmail will also work well. This sounds like a big change, but it doesn't have to change the way you use the list. Here's why: - You will still be able to send messages to the list using the "ListName-L@rootsweb.com" email address you use today. Additionally, you can choose to drop the "-L" and send your messages to ListName@rootsweb.com. Both addresses will work after the list has been migrated. - You will still be able to subscribe and unsubscribe to the mail or digest mode by sending your request to ListName-L-request@rootsweb.com or ListName-D-request@rootsweb.com as you do today. You will also be able to unsubscribe from the mail or digest mode by sending your "unsubscribe" message to LISTNAME-request@rootsweb.com. Be sure to use the command in the Subject line, not just the body of the message. --- Please continue to send your queries, data, and responses to the list as usual. It is a great time to post a new query to try to break down those brick walls. I have a number of lists moving in the first batch; sorry for the form letter! Eventually we will all be very happy that this move was made, difficult as it is for the staff and list administrators right now. It's like moving from an old house with a leaky roof and bad plumbing into a new modern place -- very cool, but the move is still difficult! All the best, Valorie PS: Exact timing of the move: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/migrate_sched.html

Dear Marilyn, I'm a descendant of Elias Baysinger as well. Would it be possible to have a copy of his photograph? My email address is ebay1963@juno.com. Please let me know any other information you need! Thanks! Eric Baysinger ________________________________________________________________________ Try Juno Platinum for Free! Then, only $9.95/month! Unlimited Internet Access with 1GB of Email Storage. Visit http://www.juno.com/value to sign up today!

-----Original Message----- From: GNEOLOG@aol.com To: BAYSINGER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 6:45 PM Subject: [Baysinger] Elias Baysinger Robin, I have been in contact in the past with two descendants of this family, Terri Malinowski who used to be on this list and also someone at this email address whose wife, Kim, was the descendant. salomebakery@tds.net This has been years ago. I am cleaning out old pictures and found a snapshot copied long before lazer copiers or photo copiers of Peter Baysinger, brother to your John and Alice Baysinger Vander Linden, daughter of Peter. The quality is not the greatest. I also have one of Elias that I copied from the History of Warren Co., IA book and a four generation one of Sarah Frances Baysinger, daughter of Elias, down to my mother in law, Norma Duncan Hansen -- as a baby. If anyone wants copies of any of these let me know. The original ones for Peter family are owned by the family of Eva Baysinger Proll. Not sure if anyone from that family is on the list of not. Good luck. Have fun. Marilyn ==== BAYSINGER Mailing List ==== Please don't post private information about living people without permission. All posts are archived. Search by keyword: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/?list=BAYSINGER Threaded archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/BAYSINGER Because messages are archived, please send personal messages, (thank yous, etc.) to the person you are addressing, rather than to the List. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.

Robin, I have been in contact in the past with two descendants of this family, Terri Malinowski who used to be on this list and also someone at this email address whose wife, Kim, was the descendant. salomebakery@tds.net This has been years ago. I am cleaning out old pictures and found a snapshot copied long before lazer copiers or photo copiers of Peter Baysinger, brother to your John and Alice Baysinger Vander Linden, daughter of Peter. The quality is not the greatest. I also have one of Elias that I copied from the History of Warren Co., IA book and a four generation one of Sarah Frances Baysinger, daughter of Elias, down to my mother in law, Norma Duncan Hansen -- as a baby. If anyone wants copies of any of these let me know. The original ones for Peter family are owned by the family of Eva Baysinger Proll. Not sure if anyone from that family is on the list of not. Good luck. Have fun. Marilyn

On Thursday 27 July 2006 4:45 pm, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > Robin, I have been in contact in the past with two descendants of this > family, Terri Malinowski who used to be on this list and also someone at > this email address whose wife, Kim, was the descendant. > salomebakery@tds.net This has been years ago. I am cleaning out old > pictures and found a snapshot copied long before lazer copiers or photo > copiers of Peter Baysinger, brother to your John and Alice Baysinger Vander > Linden, daughter of Peter. The quality is not the greatest. I also have one > of Elias that I copied from the History of Warren Co., IA book and a four > generation one of Sarah Frances Baysinger, daughter of Elias, down to my > mother in law, Norma Duncan Hansen -- as a baby. If anyone wants copies of > any of these let me know. The original ones for Peter family are owned by > the family of Eva Baysinger Proll. Not sure if anyone from that family is > on the list of not. Good luck. Have fun. Marilyn Marilyn, Robin and I are first cousins -- our mothers are sisters, daughters of Harvey McBEE and Anna BAYSINGER d/o John Alfred BAYSINGER & Minnie DISNEY. Terry is the grandaughter of John & his first wife, Viola STEPHENS. Kimberly BETTS is my sister. That tds.net address is long dead; I can supply a live address privately if you like. :-) I swore that I copied that picture of Elias at some point, but have never been able to find it. Could you possibly post scans of these pix and documents on the Message Board so that we all could see and share them? Valorie

Greetings, Listmembers: I am going to be visiting the Des Moines, IA area soon, and would love to connect to any descendants of John Alfred BAYSINGER & his wife Minnie Disney. Meeting and connecting with any Baysinger, DISNEY, WALTERS or GOOSIC relatives would be wonderful, as well. Warren and Polk counties are key locations for these families, as well as north Missouri and the greater Fort Smith Arkansas area. Sincerely, Robin Gaynor

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/lkC.2ACIB/49.65.1.1 Message Board Post: Hello. I am Faye Ritschard Edwards, daughter of Edward Rudolph Ritschard, granddaughter of Edward Daniel Ritschard who emigrated to the US from Bern Switzerland @ 1880. I know he had sveral brothers and sisters who also came to the US; one brother in California and sisters married and moved to Iowa. Any connection?