I am not a descendant of Peter Baysinger and Elizabeth Rice, but I do have some information on that line. There was a Dorothy Knauff (who died in 1982) who provided some notes. She wrote that in 1848, the same year that his wife died, Peter left his oldest boy (which would have been Elias) in Iowa and migrated to Kansas with his youngest child (who would have been a baby). According to my records Elias Henry married Margaret Jones in Warren County, Iowa on 9 July 1856, and divorced her in Douglas County, Kansas in 1858. He subsequently married Sarah Goosic, and later married Lydia Scott. Some years ago I was in correspondence with a Bernice Stephens who was a descendant of Peter's son Oregon Francis. She had been in contact with descendants of several of Peter's children, e.g. William Harrison, Eva Jane, Catherine Ann, and Elias Henry. An article in the March 2, 1858 issue of the Freeman's Champion of Prairie City, Kansas states PETITION for DIVORCE - Elias H. Baysinger vs Margaret E. Baysinger Defendant absent for more than two years. Defendant is non-resident. Case to be heard October Term in Lecompton U.S. District Court 2nd Jidicial Dist. K.T. I presume K.T. stands for Kansas territory. Bernice sent me quite a bit of information on the line of Oregon Franklin, but I have little on descendants of other lines. Larry

It does make you want to reach back in history and shake Elias' shoulders and say, "Give up some info, you old codger. What were you up to in 1854, 1860, etc.?" Okay, what about this tack? I notice in my Baysinger family breakout that Peter and Elizabeth had their last three children in this order: Oregon Franklin was born March 1844 in Edgar Co., IL, Nancy Frances was born July 1846 in Clay Co., Ind. and Zacharias Taylor was born Jan 1848 in Mitchell Co., IA. Good grtief, those people were nomads. (No wonder I love to travel...it's in the genes). Looking at the map, Edgar Co., IL and Clay Co., IN are across the state line from each other, so it would have been easy to migrate from Ill. to Ind. But then for the last birth, Mitchell Co., IA is on the north side of Iowa against the Minn. border. What were they thinking? So, two conclusions: Peter Baysinger and family should be in the 1850 federal census for Iowa, when Elias was 18 or so. And...Peter leaves wife and numerous young children to hare off to Kansas with Elias in 1855 for at least a year. Again, what were they thinking, leaving wives behind for a little adventure? But, by that time, the whole clan apparently had migrated southward to Warren Co., IA before leaving for Kansas, since Elias married Margaret there in 1854 when he was 22. So, was Margaret a local girl, or had her family arrived in Warren County from another state, such as nearby Missouri? With Ferris being born in Osceola, which was in adjacent Clarke County, that accounts for the Warren Co. marriage and could mean that once she had a legitimate name for Ferris, she may have lived with her parents in Clarke Co. and had the birth there before divorcing Elias. But, still, why no Jones family there? Or, as you note, she could have been married before to a Jones and had a little thing going with Elias. I tell you, these Baysingers and their multiple affairs and illegitimacies are very difficult to track, aren't they? Love, Terri On Mar 11, 2007, at 4:13 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > Hahahahaha, I'm talking to myself again! > > On Sunday 11 March 2007 00:25, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >> I would like to see a copy of that marriage record, if someone can >> unearth >> it. Posted to the board, preferably, so we can all take a look-see. >> I'm >> looking in 1850 right now to see if I can find Margaret. I have Ferris >> being born in Osceola, Clarke Co. IA, but have not seen that birth >> record. >> It would really help to know her age and parentage! These are the >> possibilities in the index in 1850: >> Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State) Estimated birth year Birth >> Place >> Margaret Jones Union, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 Iowa > > Five years old. > >> Margaret Jones Chequest, Van Buren, IA abt 1848 Ohio > > Two years old > >> Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1828 Ohio > > Young mother and wife; one son. And Dubuque is pretty out-of-the-way. > >> Margaret Jones Bonaparte, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 North Carolina > > Another 5 year-old. > >> Margaret Jones Vernon, Van Buren, IA abt 1840 Ohio > > Ten - barely possible. > >> Margaret Jones Mahaska, IA abt 1812 Pennsylvania > > Another married woman, with 7 children. > >> Margaret Jones Marion, IA abt 1822 Indiana > > She looked likely -- about the right age, and Marion Co. is right next > to > Warren. She's married with 3 children though. Living with her (?) > father, > Thomas Webb, age 60, b. Virginia. The farm is in husband Jonathan's > name. > >> Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1831 Pennsylvania > > Young mother and wife, one infant. > >> Margaret Jones Perry, Davis, IA abt 1821 Ohio > > 29 year-old wife of older (35) wealthy farmer ($2500), 5 children. > >> Margaret Jones Division 28, Lee, IA abt 1846 > > Four years old. > >> Margaret Jones Polk, Jefferson, IA abt 1824 North Carolina > > Wife, mother of two. > >> Margaret A Jones Salem, Henry, IA abt 1845 Iowa > > Five years old. > >> Margaret E Jones Marion, IA abt 1843 Indiana > > Seven years old. > >> Margaret L Jones Caldwell, Appanoose, IA abt 1842 Iowa > > Eight years old. > >> I'm going to look at the likeliest ones first (closest in likely age, >> and >> closest counties to Warren & Clarke) and see what we can see. >> >> More later if I find something exciting! >> >> Valorie > > Not a real possibility in the bunch, I don't think. Do you think that > Margaret > E. Jones was her MARRIED name? Young widow or divorcee'? If so, the > 1850 > might never show us anything. That marriage record and Ferris' birth > record > are key, in my opinion. It sure would help to find her and Ferris in > 1860 > too, but I've looked high and low. I hope someone from the Ferris line > speaks > up with some nugget soon! > > By the way, the Iowa Marr. db at Ancestry shows: Name: ELIAS > BAYSINGER > Spouse: MARGARET JONES > Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1854 > County: Warren > State: IA > > but there is no image associated with this db. Just in case, I scanned > all the > marriages with a JONES husband and Margaret or Maggie wife, but didn't > see > any possibilities. Of course, if she was married previously, it could > have > been in another state. :( > > Valorie > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hahahahaha, I'm talking to myself again! On Sunday 11 March 2007 00:25, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I would like to see a copy of that marriage record, if someone can unearth > it. Posted to the board, preferably, so we can all take a look-see. I'm > looking in 1850 right now to see if I can find Margaret. I have Ferris > being born in Osceola, Clarke Co. IA, but have not seen that birth record. > It would really help to know her age and parentage! These are the > possibilities in the index in 1850: > Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State) Estimated birth year Birth Place > Margaret Jones Union, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 Iowa Five years old. > Margaret Jones Chequest, Van Buren, IA abt 1848 Ohio Two years old > Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1828 Ohio Young mother and wife; one son. And Dubuque is pretty out-of-the-way. > Margaret Jones Bonaparte, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 North Carolina Another 5 year-old. > Margaret Jones Vernon, Van Buren, IA abt 1840 Ohio Ten - barely possible. > Margaret Jones Mahaska, IA abt 1812 Pennsylvania Another married woman, with 7 children. > Margaret Jones Marion, IA abt 1822 Indiana She looked likely -- about the right age, and Marion Co. is right next to Warren. She's married with 3 children though. Living with her (?) father, Thomas Webb, age 60, b. Virginia. The farm is in husband Jonathan's name. > Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1831 Pennsylvania Young mother and wife, one infant. > Margaret Jones Perry, Davis, IA abt 1821 Ohio 29 year-old wife of older (35) wealthy farmer ($2500), 5 children. > Margaret Jones Division 28, Lee, IA abt 1846 Four years old. > Margaret Jones Polk, Jefferson, IA abt 1824 North Carolina Wife, mother of two. > Margaret A Jones Salem, Henry, IA abt 1845 Iowa Five years old. > Margaret E Jones Marion, IA abt 1843 Indiana Seven years old. > Margaret L Jones Caldwell, Appanoose, IA abt 1842 Iowa Eight years old. > I'm going to look at the likeliest ones first (closest in likely age, and > closest counties to Warren & Clarke) and see what we can see. > > More later if I find something exciting! > > Valorie Not a real possibility in the bunch, I don't think. Do you think that Margaret E. Jones was her MARRIED name? Young widow or divorcee'? If so, the 1850 might never show us anything. That marriage record and Ferris' birth record are key, in my opinion. It sure would help to find her and Ferris in 1860 too, but I've looked high and low. I hope someone from the Ferris line speaks up with some nugget soon! By the way, the Iowa Marr. db at Ancestry shows: Name: ELIAS BAYSINGER Spouse: MARGARET JONES Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1854 County: Warren State: IA but there is no image associated with this db. Just in case, I scanned all the marriages with a JONES husband and Margaret or Maggie wife, but didn't see any possibilities. Of course, if she was married previously, it could have been in another state. :( Valorie

I would like to see a copy of that marriage record, if someone can unearth it. Posted to the board, preferably, so we can all take a look-see. I'm looking in 1850 right now to see if I can find Margaret. I have Ferris being born in Osceola, Clarke Co. IA, but have not seen that birth record. It would really help to know her age and parentage! These are the possibilities in the index in 1850: Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State) Estimated birth year Birth Place Margaret Jones Union, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 Iowa Margaret Jones Chequest, Van Buren, IA abt 1848 Ohio Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1828 Ohio Margaret Jones Bonaparte, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 North Carolina Margaret Jones Vernon, Van Buren, IA abt 1840 Ohio Margaret Jones Mahaska, IA abt 1812 Pennsylvania Margaret Jones Marion, IA abt 1822 Indiana Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1831 Pennsylvania Margaret Jones Perry, Davis, IA abt 1821 Ohio Margaret Jones Division 28, Lee, IA abt 1846 Margaret Jones Polk, Jefferson, IA abt 1824 North Carolina Margaret A Jones Salem, Henry, IA abt 1845 Iowa Margaret E Jones Marion, IA abt 1843 Indiana Margaret L Jones Caldwell, Appanoose, IA abt 1842 Iowa I'm going to look at the likeliest ones first (closest in likely age, and closest counties to Warren & Clarke) and see what we can see. More later if I find something exciting! Valorie On Saturday 10 March 2007 17:11, you wrote: > Hi, Valorie: > > Below is the reply I sent Marilyn earlier this week. I have the > marriage of Margaret Jones and Elias Baysinger in my records as July 9, > 1854 in Indianola, IA. Naturally, I can't find my source on that right > now, but I think it was the Warren County marriage records. > > Hi,Marilyn: > > Yes, that is quite strange. We do know that they married in July 1854, > that Elias is recorded in the 1855 Kansas census (what was the date > when the census was done at the Baysinger household?), and that Elias > shows up in the 15 Dec 1855 and 15 Jan 1856 election rosters in Kansas. > So that means he stayed in Kansas at least 18 months after his > marriage in Iowa. > > We can only speculate that maybe Elias married Margaret in Indianola, > IA simply to give a forthcoming child (Ferris) a name, and that she > subsequently divorced him. But I've not found a recorded divorce there > either. Wonder if she went elsewhere to do it, like nearby Missouri? > > Terri Malinowski in Seattle > > On Mar 10, 2007, at 2:43 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > > I found this family while searching for Margaret JONES BAYSINGER and > > her son with EH Baysinger, Ferris/Farris. ::snip previous::

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ValorieCowanZimmerman Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/354.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Grrrr. Not only did I forget the source info, but the attachment didn't attach. Source: Name: P Baysinger Census Date: 1855 Residence County: District 4 Residence State: Kansas Gender: Male Estimated birth year: abt 1815 Line: 12 Roll: ks1855_1 Source Information: Ancestry.com.. Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: # 1865 Kansas State Census. Microfilm reels K-1 - K-8. Kansas State Historical Society. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ValorieCowanZimmerman Surnames: Baysinger, Rice, Jones Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/354/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks to our wonderful Marilyn, we find Peter and family in the 1855 KS state census: P. Baysinger, age 40, To Kansas from Iowa, male, farmer (Peter) E. P. Baysinger, age 40, to Kansas from Iowa, female (Elizabeth RICE) E.H. Baysinger, age 21, farmer, male, from Iowa (Elias Henry -- where is Margaret JONES & their son Ferris/Farris?) C. A. Baysinger, minor, female (Catherine Ann) P. W. Baysinger, minor, male (Peter Washington) W. H. Baysinger, minor, male (William Harrison) E.E. Baysinger, minor, female (Elizabeth Ellen) O. F. Baysinger, minor, male (Oregon Franklin) N. F. Baysinger, minor, female (Nancy Frances) Z. T. (difficult to distinguish) Baysinger, minor, male (Zacharia/Zachary Taylor) As Marilyn says, "This census accounts for all the children of Peter and Elizabeth except for Eva who married in 1852." But Elias Henry supposedly married Margaret E. JONES 9 July 1854, and Ferris/Farris was b. c1855. Did she go home to mother's to have the baby? Where did they marry, who were her parents, and where was Ferris born? Valorie Attached find the image, or see: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/PBaysingerfam1855KS.jpg Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I found this family while searching for Margaret JONES BAYSINGER and her son with EH Baysinger, Ferris/Farris. I find the family on page 19 of the 1885 state census, Ancestry image 37 of 233. Micheal BASESINGER (sic), 39, male, white, married, Farmer J. M., 21, F, white, married Mary, 18, F, white Rosa, 13, F, white Jennie, 10, F, white Bettie, 6, F, white S.E., 4, M, white P.M., 1m, M, white Ancestry has JM indexed as Name: J M Basesinger Census Date: 1 Mar 1885 Residence County: Wyandotte Residence State: Kansas Locality: Delaware Birth Location: Iowa Family Number: 508 Marital Status: Married Gender: Female Estimated birth year: abt 1864 Race: White Line: 22 Roll: KS1885_145 Source Information: Ancestry.com.. Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: # 1885 Kansas State Census. Microfilm reels K-1 – K-146. Kansas State Historical Society. It was such an odd spelling I thought it should be gotten into the list archives. Is anyone looking for a Michael born c1846 ? I don't know where they got a birthplace for J.M. -- none is listed on the image for anybody. Valorie

By the way, I went through the images of that 1855 Census page by page, for District 4 Where Peter and family were found, and also 3 and 5 (big district), looking for Margaret. I did find a John B. SCOTT, School Teacher from Iowa in Dist. 5, with wife, 5 minor females and one minor male. Can't recall if we were looking for a SCOTT around that time or not! I also searched the Kansas collection with every combo of Margaret Jones or Baysinger I could think of, hoping to find her before or after her marriage to EH. Nada. I did find one interesting family in that search, but that will be a separate post. Valorie On Saturday 10 March 2007 00:47, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: ValorieCowanZimmerman > Surnames: Baysinger, Rice, Jones > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/354/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Thanks to our wonderful Marilyn, we find Peter and family in the 1855 KS > state census: > > P. Baysinger, age 40, To Kansas from Iowa, male, farmer > (Peter) > E. P. Baysinger, age 40, to Kansas from Iowa, female > (Elizabeth RICE) > E.H. Baysinger, age 21, farmer, male, from Iowa > (Elias Henry -- where is Margaret JONES & their son Ferris/Farris?) > C. A. Baysinger, minor, female > (Catherine Ann) > P. W. Baysinger, minor, male > (Peter Washington) > W. H. Baysinger, minor, male > (William Harrison) > E.E. Baysinger, minor, female > (Elizabeth Ellen) > O. F. Baysinger, minor, male > (Oregon Franklin) > N. F. Baysinger, minor, female > (Nancy Frances) > Z. T. (difficult to distinguish) Baysinger, minor, male > (Zacharia/Zachary Taylor) > > As Marilyn says, "This census accounts for all the children of Peter and > Elizabeth except for Eva who married in 1852." But Elias Henry supposedly > married Margaret E. JONES 9 July 1854, and Ferris/Farris was b. c1855. Did > she go home to mother's to have the baby? Where did they marry, who were > her parents, and where was Ferris born? > > Valorie > > Attached find the image, or see: > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/PBaysingerfam1855KS.jpg

Well, you can definitely see that Margaret and Ferris were not listed with Elias in this 1855 Kansas census. They only married in 1854. Strange. This census accounts for all the children of Peter and Elizabeth except for Eva who married in 1852. Take care. Marilyn 1855 census Kansas P. Baysinger, age 40, To Kansas from Iowa, male, farmer E. P. Baysinger, age 40, to Kansas from Iowa, female E.H. Baysinger, age 21, farmer, male, from Iowa C. A. Baysinger, minor, female P. W. Baysinger, minor, male W. H. Baysinger, minor, male E.E. Baysinger, minor, female O. F. Baysinger, minor, male N. F. Baysinger, minor, female Z. T. (difficult to distinguish) Baysinger, minor, male <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

On Tuesday 06 March 2007 04:51, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > I had found them both still in Kansas up to 1856, but now I see them in > 1857, in the new Ancestry collection, > > Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 ::snip:: And then I find Peter alone in 1859: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/PeterBasinger1859KS.jpg Where, oh where is Elias? Peter stayed in KS to 1880, I believe. It would be really nice to see if EH sold his KS property sometime between 1857-1859. He's in Warren Co. IA by 1861, and marries Sarah Goosic then and there. Where is Margaret Jones, his first wife? Where is Farris/Ferris around this time? I need to add this new info to http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/elias-henry-baysinger-wives-and.html Please comment on the list or blog if you have details to add. Eventually this info will become webpages with some better navigation. Valorie

I had found them both still in Kansas up to 1856, but now I see them in 1857, in the new Ancestry collection, Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 Name: Peter Baysinger Census Date: 1857 Residence County: Douglas Residence State: Kansas Locality: Calhoun Line: 9 Roll: ks1856_1 Source Information: Ancestry.com.. Kansas State Census Collection, 1855-1915 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006. Original data: # 1865 Kansas State Census. Microfilm reels K-1 – K-8. Kansas State Historical Society. You can examine the image at http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/PeterEliasBaysinger1857KS.jpg Has anybody looked at the land records of Douglas Co. KS? I sure would like to find Elias in 1860, and find out more about his first wife and son. These ancestors were so INTREPID! My life is so safe and boring compared to theirs! Valorie

Ooooooh, cool! Please upload that to the board, too. In fact, how about also putting the pic in Find A Grave: http://www.findagrave.com I love it when I find ancestors there, because you can put virtual flowers on the gravesite. Valorie On Monday 05 March 2007 09:12, Teresa Malinowski wrote: > Yes, yes, I would love it. Later this spring, I will be in Colorado > and plan to visit Peter's gravesite there. Do you need a picture of > that? > > Terri Malinowski > > On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:23 PM, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > > Just going through some of my paper work and found the marriage record > > for > > Peter and Elizabeth. If anyone wants a scanned copy of this -- just > > let me > > know. Take care. Marilyn

Yes, yes, I would love it. Later this spring, I will be in Colorado and plan to visit Peter's gravesite there. Do you need a picture of that? Terri Malinowski On Mar 3, 2007, at 3:23 PM, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > Just going through some of my paper work and found the marriage record > for > Peter and Elizabeth. If anyone wants a scanned copy of this -- just > let me > know. Take care. Marilyn > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers > free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

> > From: baysinger-request@rootsweb.com > Date: 2007/03/04 Sun AM 03:00:29 EST > To: baysinger@rootsweb.com > Subject: BAYSINGER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 5 > > > > Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. If you want your digest in MIME, please write me directly: Baysinger-admin@rootsweb.com > > When replying to a digest post, quote only the specific text to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to change the subject of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying. > > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ********* > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Peter and Eliabeth Rice Baysinger (GNEOLOG@aol.com) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 18:23:38 EST > From: GNEOLOG@aol.com > Subject: [Baysinger] Peter and Eliabeth Rice Baysinger > To: BAYSINGER-D@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <be0.ffc9222.331b5d7a@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Just going through some of my paper work and found the marriage record for > Peter and Elizabeth. If anyone wants a scanned copy of this -- just let me > know. Take care. Marilyn > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the BAYSINGER list administrator, send an email to > BAYSINGER-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the BAYSINGER mailing list, send an email to BAYSINGER@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of BAYSINGER Digest, Vol 2, Issue 5 > **** I would love to have a copy of this marriage record. Thank you so much.*********************************** >

On Saturday 03 March 2007 15:23, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > Just going through some of my paper work and found the marriage record for > Peter and Elizabeth. If anyone wants a scanned copy of this -- just let me > know. Take care. Marilyn Is this the Bible record, Marilyn? Or a county record? It would probably be a good idea to upload the scan to the Message Board so that all interested researchers could access the image. http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx I've just checked and no one has shared that record on the board yet. Valorie

Just going through some of my paper work and found the marriage record for Peter and Elizabeth. If anyone wants a scanned copy of this -- just let me know. Take care. Marilyn <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

On Wednesday 07 February 2007 11:31, Teresa Malinowski wrote: > One inaccuracy in the 1880 census is apparent, however. Elias Henry > Baysinger was not born in Ohio; he was born in Breckinridge County, Ky > on 26 Dec 1832. (His parents, Peter and Elizabeth, were married 15 > March 1832 in adjacent Hardin County, Ky. which means he was conceived > about two weeks after their marriage, but these things do happen!). Yes, I did notice that OH error, however, I never trust those "born in" notations unless they are proved out. Too many ways that they can be in error. > The Peter Baysinger family moved to Edgar County, Illinois in 1834, > returned to Kentucky 1836, then back to Illinois 1841, snd onward to > Clay County, IN (all verifiable by birthplaces of their nine children) > before settling in Iowa, but there is no mention anywhere of Ohio. > The Ohio birthplace belongs to Sarah M. Goosic alone. > > Terri Baysinger Malinowski One of these days, I'm gonna learn a mapping program, and collect pix and stuff to spice all of that up. Wouldn't a little timeline "movie" be a great way to get kids and grandkids interested in the lives of their ancestors? Valorie PS: Peter was also in "Bloody Kansas", and ended up in Colorado. I'm so glad I wasn't his wife! He really bopped all over the map. I've only moved 5 times, and all within King County Washington!

> One inaccuracy in the 1880 census is apparent, however. Elias Henry > Baysinger was not born in Ohio; he was born in Breckinridge County, Ky > on 26 Dec 1832. (His parents, Peter and Elizabeth, were married 15 > March 1832 in adjacent Hardin County, Ky. which means he was conceived > about two weeks after their marriage, but these things do happen!). > > The Peter Baysinger family moved to Edgar County, Illinois in 1834, > returned to Kentucky 1836, then back to Illinois 1841, snd onward to > Clay County, IN (all verifiable by birthplaces of their nine children) > before settling in Iowa, but there is no mention anywhere of Ohio. > The Ohio birthplace belongs to Sarah M. Goosic alone. > > Terri Baysinger Malinowski

One inaccuracy in the 1880 census is apparent, however. Elias Henry Baysinger was not born in Ohio; he was born in Breckinridge County, Ky on 26 Dec 1832. (His parents, Peter and Elizabeth, were married 15 March 1832 in adjacent Hardin County, Ky. which means he was conceived about two weeks after their marriage, but these things do happen!). The Peter Baysinger family moved to Edgar County, Illinois in 1834, returned to Kentucky 1836, then back to Illinois 1841, snd onward to Clay County, IN (all verifiable by birthplaces of their nine children) before settling in Iowa, but there is no mention anywhere of Ohio. The Ohio birthplace belongs to Sarah M. Goosic alone. Terri Baysinger Malinowski On Feb 7, 2007, at 12:34 AM, gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Basinger, Baysinger, Goosic > Classification: census > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/353.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > OK, I apparently HAVE lost my mind, as I'm answering my own post! I've > found Elias and Sarah right where they should be, in Warren Co. IA, 2 > years before Sarah Maria GOOSIC's tragic death. I was searching > FamilySearch.org, and they just don't find the couple! Ancestry's > listing: > > Name: Elias H. Basinger > Home in 1880: Otter, Warren, Iowa > Age: 58 > Estimated birth year: abt 1822 > Birthplace: Ohio > Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) > Spouse's name: Sarah M. > Father's birthplace: KY > Mother's birthplace: KY > Occupation: Farmer > Marital Status: Married > Race: White > Gender: Male > > Household Members: > Name Age > Elias H. Basinger 58 > Sarah M. Basinger 38 > Mary E. Basinger 16 > Sarah F. Basinger 14 > Peter A. Basinger 12 > Elias W. Basinger 10 > John A. Basinger 8 > Eddy B. Basinger 6 > James A. Basinger 3 > > Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Otter, Warren, Iowa; Roll: > T9_368; Family History Film: 1254368; Page: 438.4000; Enumeration > District: 235; Image: 0498. > > Sheesh, when I went through all of Otter Twp in Warren Co. on > FamilySearch, I was able to find them -- their search must be screwed > up or something. > Household: > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace > Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > Elias H. BASINGER Self M Male W 58 OH Farmer > KY KY > Sarah M. BASINGER Wife M Female W 38 OH OH > OH > Mary E. BASINGER Dau S Female W 16 IA OH > OH > Sarah F. BASINGER Dau S Female W 14 IA OH > OH > Peter A. BASINGER Son S Male W 12 IA Farm > Laborer OH OH > Elias W. BASINGER Son S Male W 10 IA Farm > Laborer OH OH > John A. BASINGER Son S Male W 8 IA OH OH > Eddy B. BASINGER Dau S Female W 6 IA OH OH > James A. BASINGER Son S Male W 3 IA OH OH > > Source Information: > Census Place Otter, Warren, Iowa > Family History Library Film 1254368 > NA Film Number T9-0368 > Page Number 438D > > Image is attached, and also available at > http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/EliasHBasinger1880IA.jpg > > > > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Basinger, Baysinger, Goosic Classification: census Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/353.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OK, I apparently HAVE lost my mind, as I'm answering my own post! I've found Elias and Sarah right where they should be, in Warren Co. IA, 2 years before Sarah Maria GOOSIC's tragic death. I was searching FamilySearch.org, and they just don't find the couple! Ancestry's listing: Name: Elias H. Basinger Home in 1880: Otter, Warren, Iowa Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1822 Birthplace: Ohio Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Sarah M. Father's birthplace: KY Mother's birthplace: KY Occupation: Farmer Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age Elias H. Basinger 58 Sarah M. Basinger 38 Mary E. Basinger 16 Sarah F. Basinger 14 Peter A. Basinger 12 Elias W. Basinger 10 John A. Basinger 8 Eddy B. Basinger 6 James A. Basinger 3 Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Otter, Warren, Iowa; Roll: T9_368; Family History Film: 1254368; Page: 438.4000; Enumeration District: 235; Image: 0498. Sheesh, when I went through all of Otter Twp in Warren Co. on FamilySearch, I was able to find them -- their search must be screwed up or something. Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Elias H. BASINGER Self M Male W 58 OH Farmer KY KY Sarah M. BASINGER Wife M Female W 38 OH OH OH Mary E. BASINGER Dau S Female W 16 IA OH OH Sarah F. BASINGER Dau S Female W 14 IA OH OH Peter A. BASINGER Son S Male W 12 IA Farm Laborer OH OH Elias W. BASINGER Son S Male W 10 IA Farm Laborer OH OH John A. BASINGER Son S Male W 8 IA OH OH Eddy B. BASINGER Dau S Female W 6 IA OH OH James A. BASINGER Son S Male W 3 IA OH OH Source Information: Census Place Otter, Warren, Iowa Family History Library Film 1254368 NA Film Number T9-0368 Page Number 438D Image is attached, and also available at http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/EliasHBasinger1880IA.jpg