Holding to my new tradition of answering myself at least once.... On Thursday 15 March 2007 02:12, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Sunday 11 March 2007 16:40, Lawrence E. Payne wrote: > > I am not a descendant of Peter Baysinger and Elizabeth Rice, but I do > > have some information on that line. There was a Dorothy Knauff (who > > died in 1982) who provided some notes. She wrote that in 1848, the > > same year that his wife died, Peter left his oldest boy (which would > > have been Elias) in Iowa and migrated to Kansas with his youngest > > child (who would have been a baby). According to my records Elias > > Henry married Margaret Jones in Warren County, Iowa on 9 July 1856, > > and divorced her in Douglas County, Kansas in 1858. He subsequently > > married Sarah Goosic, and later married Lydia Scott. > > > > Some years ago I was in correspondence with a Bernice Stephens who > > was a descendant of Peter's son Oregon Francis. She had been in > > contact with descendants of several of Peter's children, e.g. William > > Harrison, Eva Jane, Catherine Ann, and Elias Henry. > > > > An article in the March 2, 1858 issue of the Freeman's Champion of > > Prairie City, Kansas states > > > > PETITION for DIVORCE - Elias H. Baysinger vs Margaret E. Baysinger > > > > Defendant absent for more than two years. Defendant is > > non-resident. Case to be heard October > > Term in Lecompton U.S. District Court 2nd Jidicial Dist. > > K.T. ( Kansas territory ). > > > ::snip:: > > OK, I wrote to the APG list, and they reminded me of the repository I > should have thought of FIRST -- NARA. > > http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/021.html#21.18.1 > > 21.18.1 Records of the U.S. Territorial Court > > Textual Records (in Kansas City): Case files, dockets, and other records of > the First District (Leavenworth, including Calhoun and Lecompton), 1855-63. > Case files, dockets, and other records of the Second District (Tecumseh and > Lecompton), 1855-61. Case files of the Third District (Fort Scott), > 1860-61. > > Is anybody close enough to to Kansas City NARA to check this out? If not, I > have a genealogist friend who lives nearby, and I'm sure I could get her to > do it. > > Valorie <--- feeling like a doofus for not thinking of this first I should add that I was also told that "The file won't be in the microfilm room though. You will have to use the research room. I would call ahead and make sure the file is there because you will need to call and make an appointment to use the research room anyway. There are oodles of undiscovered treasures available through the research rooms in the local NARA branches.The people in the research room are usually very good about explaining how to find the records, but essentially you will look in the docket to find out what the case number is and then look up the file." -v

On Sunday 11 March 2007 16:40, Lawrence E. Payne wrote: > I am not a descendant of Peter Baysinger and Elizabeth Rice, but I do > have some information on that line. There was a Dorothy Knauff (who > died in 1982) who provided some notes. She wrote that in 1848, the > same year that his wife died, Peter left his oldest boy (which would > have been Elias) in Iowa and migrated to Kansas with his youngest > child (who would have been a baby). According to my records Elias > Henry married Margaret Jones in Warren County, Iowa on 9 July 1856, > and divorced her in Douglas County, Kansas in 1858. He subsequently > married Sarah Goosic, and later married Lydia Scott. > > Some years ago I was in correspondence with a Bernice Stephens who > was a descendant of Peter's son Oregon Francis. She had been in > contact with descendants of several of Peter's children, e.g. William > Harrison, Eva Jane, Catherine Ann, and Elias Henry. > > An article in the March 2, 1858 issue of the Freeman's Champion of > Prairie City, Kansas states > > PETITION for DIVORCE - Elias H. Baysinger vs Margaret E. Baysinger > > Defendant absent for more than two years. Defendant is > non-resident. Case to be heard October > Term in Lecompton U.S. District Court 2nd Jidicial Dist. > K.T. ( Kansas territory ). ::snip:: OK, I wrote to the APG list, and they reminded me of the repository I should have thought of FIRST -- NARA. http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/021.html#21.18.1 21.18.1 Records of the U.S. Territorial Court Textual Records (in Kansas City): Case files, dockets, and other records of the First District (Leavenworth, including Calhoun and Lecompton), 1855-63. Case files, dockets, and other records of the Second District (Tecumseh and Lecompton), 1855-61. Case files of the Third District (Fort Scott), 1860-61. Is anybody close enough to to Kansas City NARA to check this out? If not, I have a genealogist friend who lives nearby, and I'm sure I could get her to do it. Valorie <--- feeling like a doofus for not thinking of this first

www.familysearch.org Note: STEP SON Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Mark GREGG Self M Male W 49 OH Carpenter OH PA Margret GREGG Wife M Female W 44 IN Keeping House NC KY Pharis GREGG SSon S Male W 24 IA Carpenter OH IN Jane GREGG Dau S Female W 19 IA OH IN ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Source Information: Census Place Jackson, Clarke, Iowa Family History Library Film 1254332 NA Film Number T9-0332 Page Number 179B <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I guess Mark was 39 in 1870 if someone can double check that for me. Take care. Marilyn _1880 United States Federal Census_ (http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6742&enc=1) about Mark Gregg Name: Mark Mark Home in 1880: Jackson, Jackso, Iowa Age: 49 Estimated birth year: abt 1831 Birthplace: Ohio Relation to head-of-household: Self (Head) Spouse's name: Margret Father's birthplace: OH Mother's birthplace: PA Neighbors: _View others on page_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?viewrecord=1&ti=0&r=an&db=1880usfedcen&F39=IAT9_332-0771) Occupation: Carpenter Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Cannot read/write: Blind: Deaf and dumb: Otherwise disabled: Idiotic or insane: _View image_ (http://content.ancestry.com/iexec?htx=view&r=an&dbid=6742&iid=IAT9_332-0771&fn=Mark&ln=Gregg&st=r&ssrc=&pid=31978033) Household Members: Name Age _Mark Gregg_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=31978033) 49 _Margret Gregg_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=47618743) 44 _Pharis Gregg_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=47619011) 24 _Jane Gregg_ (http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1880usfedcen&indiv=try&h=31978074) 19 <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Wonders never cease-- Thanks for the kick in the ---- to follow up on the M. Gregg in 1860, Valorie 1870 census Lincoln twp., Clarke Co, Iowa page 90 stamped/33 handwritten June 24, 1870 Mark C. GREGG, age 33, born Ohio, carpenter, $600/$200 MARGARET, age 34, born Indiana, cannot read and write FERIS I. ,, age 14, works on farm, born Iowa, attended school within the year Hannah E., age 11, born Iowa, attended school within the year Deborah A., age 10, IA Phoebe Jane, age 8, IA Samuel, age 6, IA Take care. Marilyn <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/14/2007 2:01:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/ferrisfarris-baysinger-jennie.html Hey Valorie, Great work. Also nice to see your picture. Marilyn --My comments _______________ Valorie: Elias was in Kansas with Peter, his father, and their part in "Bloody Kansas" is mentioned in Congressional Records of the time. It is intriguing that they are spoken of as "armed Missourians," not Iowans. Marilyn -- here is what I think this statement is referencing. I don't see Elias mentioned. Also I think the people who broke into Peter's house were MISSOURIANS -- rather then speaking of Peter Claims of the Citizens of Territory of Kansas, Volume 1859, p 558, 559, 560 #302 "To the Honorable Commissioner of Claims: The petition of Peter Baysinger, under the act of the legislative assembly, and an act supplementary thereto, approved 23d of February, 1857, providing for the auditing and certifying of claims for damage suffered during the late troubles in Kansas Territory. The above named petitioner respectfully shows to this commissioner, that on or about the 30th of November, 1854, this petitioner resided at Black Jack Point, on the Santa Fe road, in Kansas Territory; that while this petitioner was absent from home a large band of armed men, as this petitioner is informed and believes, entered the house of this petitioner and drove his family from therein and stole and carried away five hundred and sixty-five dollars in gold, broke and destroyed one gun, of the value of fifteen dollars; that he was the legal owner of the said money and of the said gun; that those persons claimed to be Missourians, and declared that this petitioner should not live in Kansas Territory; that on or about the 30th of March, 1855, a party of armed men, as the petitioner is informed and believes, came to the house of this petitioner, while he was absent, and tore the room off from the house and threw the sides of it nearly down; also tearing down the chimney; put fire into the beds and lard can, with the honest intention of burning the house; broke to pieces one bedstead, one double-barrel shot-gun, one clock, and divers dishes and household furniture, of the damage to this petitioner of five hundred dollars; that this petitioner was the legal owner of said house and prooperty destroyed; that the house was one story and a half high and 18 by 20 feet on the ground; that he now resides in Douglas county, Kansas Territory, and that said property and money has not been returned to this petitioner, or any part been returned to him, nor has any remuneration been made therefor. Therefore this petitioner prays that the sum of ten hundred and sixty dollars may be allowed him for his damage in the premises." Signed Peter Baysinger, his mark, in Lawrence, November 16, 1857. There are two statements from neighbors about this incident, and a statement by Elizabeth E. Baysinger (Peter's daughter). The result was he was awarded $800. _________________ Valorie:I see Ferris in the Iowa State Census, taken in 1895. Ancestry extraction lists him as Faris I. Baysinger, age 40, race white, birthplace: Clarke IA; residence: Ward, Clarke Co. Marilyn: In my OLD Notes from Doris 1895 Iowa Census Faris I. Baysinger 40 Clarke IA W Clarke Ward Jane Baysinger 42 Penn W Clarke Ward Robert Baysinger 14 Clarke IA W Clarke Ward Mary O. Baysinger 10 Clarke IA W Clarke Ward Jame Mark Baysinger 8 Clarke IA W Clarke Ward Note: Mary for Olive and Mark for Jame/John _________________ Valorie: John Baysinger, b. Sept. 1886, died at age 23, never married, bur. Osceola, Iowa Cemetery. Marilyn: John possibly died in New Mexico -- check age and location Next-door. John M Baysinger Age in 1910: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Birthplace: Iowa Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: Iowa Mother's Birth Place: Pennsylvania Home in 1910: Pearson, Roosevelt, New Mexico Marital Status: Single Race: White Gender: Male ______________ Valorie: Pearl Eivins: PEARL EIVINS, 18 Aug 1883 - May 1972. Last residence: Osceola, Clarke Co. IA 50213. SSN: 500-07-6443, issued: Missouri. I don't see Olive. Marilyn: I did not find Olive either -- no Olive -- No Mary ________ VAlorie: I have been unable to find Elias, Margaret or Ferris in the 1860 Census so far. Marilyn: Well, you can at least take Elias off this list. <smile> ___ More later. Doris noted that Robert had no sons so there are NO Baysinger surnamed people from Ferris. No DNA matches for his line. Take care. Marilyn <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

On Monday 12 March 2007 10:33, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > OK these papers say that Margaret Jones married ------ Gregg after the > divorce and that Ferris married Jennie with children Olive of Cainsville Mo > (married ---- EVANS, of Cainsville, Mo and John who died in Oklahoma. > > So I found this to get an approximate date for Ferris I. Baysinger -- 1895 > Iowa census. No Margaret Gregg though -- sigh > > The family that my notes have for Ferris are listed in 1900 Clarke Co., IA > Ward Twp., ED 38, Sheet 11 > He looks like Fred I. BASINGER born July 1852, age 47. He and parents born > Iowa. married 19 years. Only Baysinger in Clarke Co. Must be the same > person. > > > Name: Faris I. I. Age: 40 Race: W Birthplace: Clarke IA > Residence: > Ward, Clarke Could this be Margaret in 1860? Yes, Charles is wrong for Ferris, but it is still within the realm of possibility: Name: Margaret Gregg Age in 1860: 28 Birth Year: abt 1832 Birthplace: Missouri Home in 1860: Jefferson, Jefferson, Kansas Territory Gender: Female Post Office: Crooked Creek Household Members: Name Age Franklin Gregg 32 Margaret Gregg 28 Charles Gregg 7 Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Jefferson, Jefferson, Kansas Territory; Roll: M653_349; Page: 0; Image: 358. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Eighth Census of the United States, 1860. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1860. M653, 1,438 rolls. There is a Margaret Gregg in Iowa, but she is awfully young, and it shows her at school within the year, and not married within the year: Name: Margaret V Gregg Age in 1860: 19 Birth Year: abt 1841 Birthplace: Iowa Home in 1860: Union, Des Moines, Iowa Gender: Female Post Office: Burlington Household Members: Name Age B S Gregg 54 Melissa Gregg 46 William Gregg 22 James B Gregg 21 Margaret V Gregg 19 Almira Gregg 17 Ruth E Gregg 14 Mary E Gregg 11 John Gregg 9 Benjamin F Gregg 7 Melissa E Gregg 3 Daniel Schaffer 22 Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Union, Des Moines, Iowa; Roll: M653_319; Page: 227; Image: 227. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Eighth Census of the United States, 1860. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1860. M653, 1,438 rolls. Hmmmm. There there is this one -- maybe the best match yet? Name: M Gregg Age in 1860: 23 Birth Year: abt 1837 Birthplace: Indiana Home in 1860: Liberty, Clarke, Iowa Gender: Female Post Office: Talahoma Household Members: Name Age M C Gregg 29 - Master Carpenter, personal estate $75, b. OH M Gregg 23 - b. Ind. P J Gregg 4, male - b. Iowa (this is our possible Ferris) H E Gregg 1, female - Do (ditto) Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Liberty, Clarke, Iowa; Roll: M653_314; Page: 52; Image: 393. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1860 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Eighth Census of the United States, 1860. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1860. M653, 1,438 rolls. Valorie

I'm so jazzed to have this info finally! Here is the image: http://valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com/PWBaringer1860DouglasCoKT.jpg I'm adding this into my timeline blog post. Valorie On Monday 12 March 2007 05:06, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > Do we have Peter and Elias in 1860 -- I did not have them but did a search > for Elias (no last name) born 1832 + or - one year in Kentucky and FOUND > THEM listed as BARINGER in Douglas Co. KS. Actually did not have too many > index pages to look at before this one. Thank goodness he used the name > Elias rather than E. H. Some of you may have this info already but > > 1860 Willow Springs, Douglas County, Kansas Territory page 141 or 145, July > 30, 1860 line 10 > P. W. BARINGER, age 52, male,farmer, $1800/$300, born VA > Elizabeth, age 46, female,KY > Elias, age 26, male, farmer, KY > Peter, age 21, male, farmer, KY > William, age 19, male,KY > Oregon, age 17, male, IL > Nancy M. age 14, female, IN, attended school within the year > Taylor, age 11, male, IA, attended school within the year > > living next door to Peter's daughter and son in law and their family > Daniel BARKER, age 32, male, OH > Eva, age 25, female, IL > Sarah M., age 7, IA, attended school > Nancy E., age 3, IA > Florence, age 1, NE

On Sunday 11 March 2007 16:40, Lawrence E. Payne wrote: > I am not a descendant of Peter Baysinger and Elizabeth Rice, but I do > have some information on that line. There was a Dorothy Knauff (who > died in 1982) who provided some notes. She wrote that in 1848, the > same year that his wife died, Peter left his oldest boy (which would > have been Elias) in Iowa and migrated to Kansas with his youngest > child (who would have been a baby). According to my records Elias > Henry married Margaret Jones in Warren County, Iowa on 9 July 1856, > and divorced her in Douglas County, Kansas in 1858. He subsequently > married Sarah Goosic, and later married Lydia Scott. > > Some years ago I was in correspondence with a Bernice Stephens who > was a descendant of Peter's son Oregon Francis. She had been in > contact with descendants of several of Peter's children, e.g. William > Harrison, Eva Jane, Catherine Ann, and Elias Henry. > > An article in the March 2, 1858 issue of the Freeman's Champion of > Prairie City, Kansas states > > PETITION for DIVORCE - Elias H. Baysinger vs Margaret E. Baysinger > > Defendant absent for more than two years. Defendant is > non-resident. Case to be heard October > Term in Lecompton U.S. District Court 2nd Jidicial Dist. > K.T. > > I presume K.T. stands for Kansas territory. > > Bernice sent me quite a bit of information on the line of Oregon > Franklin, but I have little on descendants of other lines. Thanks so much for this information, Larry. The LDS doesn't appear to hold any court records which would help us to see the proceedings of the divorce case, which would be very helpful. I'll ask about this on the APG list. Valorie

I did quite a bit of searching for Ferris a few months back, and summarized it here: Ferris/Farris BAYSINGER, Jennie PATTERSON and their children: http://genweblog.blogspot.com/2006/11/ferrisfarris-baysinger-jennie.html Please tell me if you disagree or have info which disproves any of my theories. :-) Valorie On Monday 12 March 2007 10:33, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > OK these papers say that Margaret Jones married ------ Gregg after the > divorce and that Ferris married Jennie with children Olive of Cainsville Mo > (married ---- EVANS, of Cainsville, Mo and John who died in Oklahoma. > > So I found this to get an approximate date for Ferris I. Baysinger -- 1895 > Iowa census. No Margaret Gregg though -- sigh > > The family that my notes have for Ferris are listed in 1900 Clarke Co., IA > Ward Twp., ED 38, Sheet 11 > He looks like Fred I. BASINGER born July 1852, age 47. He and parents born > Iowa. married 19 years. Only Baysinger in Clarke Co. Must be the same > person. > > > Name: Faris I. I. Age: 40 Race: W Birthplace: Clarke IA > Residence: > Ward, Clarke > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Monday 12 March 2007 04:34, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > Don't know if this is from Terri or some of my early research <sigh> If > mine, I must have gotten it on one of my research trips to Salt Lake City > -- years ago. Take care. Marilyn > > Warren County, Iowa records show a marriage 9 July 1854 by William P. > Jenkins, J.P., for Margaret Jones and Elias Henry Baysinger (Certificate > #11). I have that notation too, but it would be nice to see the paperwork. Is Margaret listed as Miss, or Mrs.? Is there an age given for either of them, parental permission included, etc. If this is all we have, so be it -- dead end wish! LOL! Valorie

Delightful! I've been looking for them for months. I thought I tried your firstname and birthdate trick, but maybe that was before the state censuses were added. A good reminder to redo old searches, occasionally. Kudos to Marilyn!!!!!!!! We are getting closer to a good timeline for not only Elias, but Peter too. Valorie On Monday 12 March 2007 05:06, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > Do we have Peter and Elias in 1860 -- I did not have them but did a search > for Elias (no last name) born 1832 + or - one year in Kentucky and FOUND > THEM listed as BARINGER in Douglas Co. KS. Actually did not have too many > index pages to look at before this one. Thank goodness he used the name > Elias rather than E. H. Some of you may have this info already but > > 1860 Willow Springs, Douglas County, Kansas Territory page 141 or 145, July > 30, 1860 line 10 > P. W. BARINGER, age 52, male,farmer, $1800/$300, born VA > Elizabeth, age 46, female,KY > Elias, age 26, male, farmer, KY > Peter, age 21, male, farmer, KY > William, age 19, male,KY > Oregon, age 17, male, IL > Nancy M. age 14, female, IN, attended school within the year > Taylor, age 11, male, IA, attended school within the year > > living next door to Peter's daughter and son in law and their family > Daniel BARKER, age 32, male, OH > Eva, age 25, female, IL > Sarah M., age 7, IA, attended school > Nancy E., age 3, IA > Florence, age 1, NE > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Monday 12 March 2007 09:56, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > I found some old papers collected on the Baysinger family back in 1982 sent > by early Baysinger researcher, Trilla Williamson, Corene Baysinger, Ray > Baysinger etc. These are handwritten census papers and family group sheets > for anyone with surname BAYSINGER. At least that is what they look like I > never entered the info in my computer and before I do, I want to check to > make sure the family is correct. > > This is John BAysinger and Priscilla Williams-- son of Casper and Eve > Snider Baysinger > > I have more generations but want to confirm before entering the info > > Children > William Henry 1824--- 3 children. lived Cerro Gordo Co., Iowa > Jacob born about 1827 married Mary O. Wheeler -- 7 children, 1860 census > Edgar Co., IL > Felix Grundy born May 8, 1826 married Lucinda Overby-- 1880 census Jones > Co., Iowa > Rezin born 8-23-1927 married Rachel Montague -- 8 children > Mary Jane May 12, 1929 > Casper born 1830 married Mary Jane -- 7 children 1880 census Black Hawk > Co., IA > Richard born 1-24-1833 married Alenna -- ??? 2 sons 1860 census Edgar Co., > IL Alexander 1836 died 1882 -- Note says lost his life in Andersonville > Prison Civil War -- date too late, I would think-- living with John and > Mary Bennett in 1850 Edgar Co., IL age 14 > Sarah, about 1837 Nice! There have been discussions on the list and/or the board about at least some of these families; I remember doing quite a few census lookups for the younger Caspar, Felix, and the Jacob who married Mary O. Wheeler. Search the board and archives for them: http://archiver.rootsweb.com http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx For some of them I probably uploaded the census image too, which is always nice to have. Valorie

Looking for any information on: Gregory A. Allen, b: 17 Jan. 1954 Jerome Allen Mother of Gregory and Jerome: Betty Lou (Baysinger) Allen Jerome is a half brother to Gregory I am not sure if they are originally from the Manitowoc, Wi. area, but there are connections in the other lines that I am researching, which are the surnames: Litersky; Mrotek; Franz & Popp Linda (_archiv1gen@aol.com_ (mailto:archiv1gen@aol.com) ) <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

OK these papers say that Margaret Jones married ------ Gregg after the divorce and that Ferris married Jennie with children Olive of Cainsville Mo (married ---- EVANS, of Cainsville, Mo and John who died in Oklahoma. So I found this to get an approximate date for Ferris I. Baysinger -- 1895 Iowa census. No Margaret Gregg though -- sigh The family that my notes have for Ferris are listed in 1900 Clarke Co., IA Ward Twp., ED 38, Sheet 11 He looks like Fred I. BASINGER born July 1852, age 47. He and parents born Iowa. married 19 years. Only Baysinger in Clarke Co. Must be the same person. Name: Faris I. I. Age: 40 Race: W Birthplace: Clarke IA Residence: Ward, Clarke <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

I found some old papers collected on the Baysinger family back in 1982 sent by early Baysinger researcher, Trilla Williamson, Corene Baysinger, Ray Baysinger etc. These are handwritten census papers and family group sheets for anyone with surname BAYSINGER. At least that is what they look like I never entered the info in my computer and before I do, I want to check to make sure the family is correct. This is John BAysinger and Priscilla Williams-- son of Casper and Eve Snider Baysinger I have more generations but want to confirm before entering the info Children William Henry 1824--- 3 children. lived Cerro Gordo Co., Iowa Jacob born about 1827 married Mary O. Wheeler -- 7 children, 1860 census Edgar Co., IL Felix Grundy born May 8, 1826 married Lucinda Overby-- 1880 census Jones Co., Iowa Rezin born 8-23-1927 married Rachel Montague -- 8 children Mary Jane May 12, 1929 Casper born 1830 married Mary Jane -- 7 children 1880 census Black Hawk Co., IA Richard born 1-24-1833 married Alenna -- ??? 2 sons 1860 census Edgar Co., IL Alexander 1836 died 1882 -- Note says lost his life in Andersonvill Prison Civil War -- date too late, I would think-- living with John and Mary Bennett in 1850 Edgar Co., IL age 14 Sarah, about 1837 <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Teresa-Do upu know anything about Melissa who married Abraham Dryman in the 1830s? Her daughter gave the Mormon church the surname of Baysinger for Melissa. Melissa and Dryman lived in Greene County Tn. My ggrandmother was melissa's daughte, Caro;line. She was a small girl when the Drymans married. The name on her marriage certificate to Dryman was Melissa Gosnell. In Greene County ,at the same time ,was Micheal Baysinger who was living with his daughter named Mary who married a Latison Gossnell , Latison is melissa's brother. Another brother was Meriday Gosnell who with his family lived next door to the Drymans. He and Melissa's husband were blacksmiths. do you know anything about the Baysingers of Tn? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Teresa Malinowski" <terrim1@earthlink.net> To: <baysinger@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Baysinger] Margaret Jones, EH & Ferris Baysinger > It does make you want to reach back in history and shake Elias' > shoulders and say, "Give up some info, you old codger. What were you > up to in 1854, 1860, etc.?" > > Okay, what about this tack? I notice in my Baysinger family breakout > that Peter and Elizabeth had their last three children in this order: > Oregon Franklin was born March 1844 in Edgar Co., IL, Nancy Frances was > born July 1846 in Clay Co., Ind. and Zacharias Taylor was born Jan 1848 > in Mitchell Co., IA. > > Good grtief, those people were nomads. (No wonder I love to > travel...it's in the genes). Looking at the map, Edgar Co., IL and > Clay Co., IN are across the state line from each other, so it would > have been easy to migrate from Ill. to Ind. But then for the last > birth, Mitchell Co., IA is on the north side of Iowa against the Minn. > border. What were they thinking? > > So, two conclusions: Peter Baysinger and family should be in the 1850 > federal census for Iowa, when Elias was 18 or so. And...Peter leaves > wife and numerous young children to hare off to Kansas with Elias in > 1855 for at least a year. Again, what were they thinking, leaving > wives behind for a little adventure? But, by that time, the whole clan > apparently had migrated southward to Warren Co., IA before leaving for > Kansas, since Elias married Margaret there in 1854 when he was 22. > > So, was Margaret a local girl, or had her family arrived in Warren > County from another state, such as nearby Missouri? With Ferris being > born in Osceola, which was in adjacent Clarke County, that accounts for > the Warren Co. marriage and could mean that once she had a legitimate > name for Ferris, she may have lived with her parents in Clarke Co. and > had the birth there before divorcing Elias. But, still, why no Jones > family there? Or, as you note, she could have been married before to a > Jones and had a little thing going with Elias. > > I tell you, these Baysingers and their multiple affairs and > illegitimacies are very difficult to track, aren't they? > > Love, Terri > > > > On Mar 11, 2007, at 4:13 AM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > >> Hahahahaha, I'm talking to myself again! >> >> On Sunday 11 March 2007 00:25, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >>> I would like to see a copy of that marriage record, if someone can >>> unearth >>> it. Posted to the board, preferably, so we can all take a look-see. >>> I'm >>> looking in 1850 right now to see if I can find Margaret. I have Ferris >>> being born in Osceola, Clarke Co. IA, but have not seen that birth >>> record. >>> It would really help to know her age and parentage! These are the >>> possibilities in the index in 1850: >>> Name Home in 1850 (City,County,State) Estimated birth year Birth >>> Place >>> Margaret Jones Union, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 Iowa >> >> Five years old. >> >>> Margaret Jones Chequest, Van Buren, IA abt 1848 Ohio >> >> Two years old >> >>> Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1828 Ohio >> >> Young mother and wife; one son. And Dubuque is pretty out-of-the-way. >> >>> Margaret Jones Bonaparte, Van Buren, IA abt 1845 North Carolina >> >> Another 5 year-old. >> >>> Margaret Jones Vernon, Van Buren, IA abt 1840 Ohio >> >> Ten - barely possible. >> >>> Margaret Jones Mahaska, IA abt 1812 Pennsylvania >> >> Another married woman, with 7 children. >> >>> Margaret Jones Marion, IA abt 1822 Indiana >> >> She looked likely -- about the right age, and Marion Co. is right next >> to >> Warren. She's married with 3 children though. Living with her (?) >> father, >> Thomas Webb, age 60, b. Virginia. The farm is in husband Jonathan's >> name. >> >>> Margaret Jones District 7, Dubuque, IA abt 1831 Pennsylvania >> >> Young mother and wife, one infant. >> >>> Margaret Jones Perry, Davis, IA abt 1821 Ohio >> >> 29 year-old wife of older (35) wealthy farmer ($2500), 5 children. >> >>> Margaret Jones Division 28, Lee, IA abt 1846 >> >> Four years old. >> >>> Margaret Jones Polk, Jefferson, IA abt 1824 North Carolina >> >> Wife, mother of two. >> >>> Margaret A Jones Salem, Henry, IA abt 1845 Iowa >> >> Five years old. >> >>> Margaret E Jones Marion, IA abt 1843 Indiana >> >> Seven years old. >> >>> Margaret L Jones Caldwell, Appanoose, IA abt 1842 Iowa >> >> Eight years old. >> >>> I'm going to look at the likeliest ones first (closest in likely age, >>> and >>> closest counties to Warren & Clarke) and see what we can see. >>> >>> More later if I find something exciting! >>> >>> Valorie >> >> Not a real possibility in the bunch, I don't think. Do you think that >> Margaret >> E. Jones was her MARRIED name? Young widow or divorcee'? If so, the >> 1850 >> might never show us anything. That marriage record and Ferris' birth >> record >> are key, in my opinion. It sure would help to find her and Ferris in >> 1860 >> too, but I've looked high and low. I hope someone from the Ferris line >> speaks >> up with some nugget soon! >> >> By the way, the Iowa Marr. db at Ancestry shows: Name: ELIAS >> BAYSINGER >> Spouse: MARGARET JONES >> Marriage Date: 9 Jul 1854 >> County: Warren >> State: IA >> >> but there is no image associated with this db. Just in case, I scanned >> all the >> marriages with a JONES husband and Margaret or Maggie wife, but didn't >> see >> any possibilities. Of course, if she was married previously, it could >> have >> been in another state. :( >> >> Valorie >> ********* >> Resources for list members: >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do y'all know this site -- land patents search. This is results of a search for Illinois and Baysinger. You can get the actual patent FREE --just copy it from the site. _http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Results.asp?QryId=30236.8_ (http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Results.asp?QryId=30236.8) Take care. Marilyn <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Do we have Peter and Elias in 1860 -- I did not have them but did a search for Elias (no last name) born 1832 + or - one year in Kentucky and FOUND THEM listed as BARINGER in Douglas Co. KS. Actually did not have too many index pages to look at before this one. Thank goodness he used the name Elias rather than E. H. Some of you may have this info already but 1860 Willow Springs, Douglas County, Kansas Territory page 141 or 145, July 30, 1860 line 10 P. W. BARINGER, age 52, male,farmer, $1800/$300, born VA Elizabeth, age 46, female,KY Elias, age 26, male, farmer, KY Peter, age 21, male, farmer, KY William, age 19, male,KY Oregon, age 17, male, IL Nancy M. age 14, female, IN, attended school within the year Taylor, age 11, male, IA, attended school within the year living next door to Peter's daughter and son in law and their family Daniel BARKER, age 32, male, OH Eva, age 25, female, IL Sarah M., age 7, IA, attended school Nancy E., age 3, IA Florence, age 1, NE <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Don't know if this is from Terri or some of my early research <sigh> If mine, I must have gotten it on one of my research trips to Salt Lake City -- years ago. Take care. Marilyn Warren County, Iowa records show a marriage 9 July 1854 by William P. Jenkins, J.P., for Margaret Jones and Elias Henry Baysinger (Certificate #11). <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.