On Friday 18 May 2007 05:34, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/18/2007 2:01:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > Is it too late to get info on the group from Germany who > wanted others to join in on a group rate for DNA testing? > > > > Now I know it is too early in the AM to do genealogy. I should have read > Sharon's email all the way to the bottom and seen that she was replying to > ONE OF MY OWN EMAILS. That was pretty funny to me. Take care. Marilyn Hahahahaha!!!!!!! I love you, Marilyn. Life is good if you can laugh at yourself! I would love to find a male Baysinger cousin too. I'm so glad that there are regional groups who can help us "rare surname" people out. Wouldn't it be nice to *confirm* the relationships of all the immigrant Baysinger/Basinger/Bessinger etc. lines? Valorie

In a message dated 5/18/2007 2:01:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: Is it too late to get info on the group from Germany who wanted others to join in on a group rate for DNA testing? Now I know it is too early in the AM to do genealogy. I should have read Sharon's email all the way to the bottom and seen that she was replying to ONE OF MY OWN EMAILS. That was pretty funny to me. Take care. Marilyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 5/18/2007 2:01:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: Is it too late to get info on the group from Germany who wanted others to join in on a group rate for DNA testing? Did I miss something? Even though Ray's male line is far removed from his last direct male line -- I am fascintated with the DNA testing. I have had lines from both my paternal grandfathers, my maternal line (MTdna) and Ray's paternal line. Still have a couple more lines to finance but the tests are actually cheap compared to some of my research trips. Heck, I probably spent more on postage and copies in the days before computers. I was a prolific writer -- seeking answers -- at that time. Now it is all on the computer. I love the speed of the computer but there was nothing like the thrill of opening the mailbox and finding a reply to one of my requests for help. Let me know about a DNA program. Take care. Marilyn ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

My husband descends from the line from Germany (now part of France) Jacob Bessinger/Johann Peter Boesinger/Casper Besinger/Peter Asa Baysinger/William Henry Baysinger/William Winona Baysinger (his Grandfather). Is it too late to get info on the group from Germany who wanted others to join in on a group rate for DNA testing? I really enjoy your group's genealogy input. Sharon Baysinger Steve & Sharon Baysinger Normandy Farms Family Camping Resort 72 West Street Foxboro MA 02035 239-297-8381 (Note change of phone number) On Tue, 12 Dec 2006 20:59:58 EST GNEOLOG@aol.com writes: > Just wondering if any male Baysinger lines have considered DNA > testing. It > would be interesting to see how the families match up with each > other. There is > a GERMAN group on www.familytreedna that would probably be suitable > for > joining under to get a group rate. I have learned quite a bit > having been involved > in my paternal THOMAS line. Be glad to help anyone who might be > interested. > Sadly, we cannot participate since don't descend from a direct male > line. Take > care. Marilyn > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > Steve & Sharon Baysinger Normandy Farms Family Camping Resort 72 West Street Foxboro MA 02035 239-297-8381 (Note change of phone number)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: christopherbaysinger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/183.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know about Jack in Prison, but he did die young in a motorcycle accident, there is a cousin, Orrie Baysinger, he grew up in Wy,{i corresponded with is daughter a fews back}. my great grandfather John die in 1905, just before my grandad was born, my great aunt Blanche died recently, but she still has children in Yankton SD, email my dad for more info, jrbaysinger@hotmail.com, Swan is Buried in Casper Wy, so go to whitepages.com or citysearch and look for baysinger in casper , you might get lucky. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sueoberlin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/183.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Christopher, me again! I just talked to my mom and she asked me to ask you who your parents are. She said to tell you, that my grandfather was as close to John and Amasay as brothers, and that he in fact used to live with Swan and Lydia as a young child. She said to tell you she remembers two more of Swans children, they were Hettie and Halley. She also wanted you to know, that a few yrs. before my grandfather passed away in 1980, that Jack came to visit him and took several photo's of Swan to copy and promised to bring them back and never did. She says if you know any of his relatives or him etc. that our family would love to have copies of the pics. She also thinks granddad gave him information about Swan that may be what we are both looking for. History on his parents. We were told they came from Quebec Canada, but we are not sure when etc. If you have any further information you could share, we would greatly appreciate it. My mom was very close to I think she! said Arlene and Charolette Baysinger. My uncle is Leonard Knutson, and I know he was also very close to the Baysingers in S. Dakota. Anyhow, hope I am not driving you nuts by now, thank you again for all your help and I hope to hear from you again...Sue p.s. she also says she thinks she remembers hearing as a kid, that Jack served time in prison for murder? Just curious if you can shed any light on that on way or the other? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: christopherbaysinger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/183.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: good luck! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sueoberlin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/183.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandfather was Ralph Lefler, my grandmother was Gertrude maiden name Cellen. My mother was Marjorie or "muff" Lefler. I know she grew up with several of the Baysingers in S.Dakota. My grandmother passed away, and I spoke to my mother earlier today and she said somewhere she had more info wrote down she was able to get from my grandmother before she passed. If I come up with any other info I will certainly let you know. You already have been a big help in giving me more places to search as I have just been going on surnames...thank you very much! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: christopherbaysinger Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/183.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: hello cousin, I remember the name Hattie, Rooks KS, in Lyon county,as from SD, My dad's from there, but his grampa was grown by then, Nebraska, Amassa, my dad's great uncle Wid, Lived in Forestburg SD, there are allot of Baysingers there, tell you are a cousin and get a free watermelon. Ammassa's name comes from his maternal uncle. there is allot online about her, Lydia Jane Harding, Hattie's mom, just google her, and if you find out who swan's parents are please tell me, it was Breckenridge county not Meade bd 12/25/1849. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I ran into the same situation while researching my husband's St. Louis ancestors. It seems they moved from one house or flat to another within a few months. One family was enumerated in June, 1870 and again in Nov. 1870, six blocks away. In the meantime, four of the eight children and one of the parents had advanced in age by one year on the census. Since they all spoke German, one can only assume they went through the process a second time, not realizing that this new country was not in the practice of doing twice-yearly censuses. Terri On Mar 23, 2007, at 9:54 PM, Valorie Zimmerman wrote: > On Friday 23 March 2007 04:27, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: >> In a message dated 3/23/2007 2:01:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >> baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: >> >> as when the >> same person is enumerated twice in the same census, in two different >> places! >> >> >> >> Valorie, I have found this a couple of times for an individual -- and >> went >> back and checked the dates of the census. Most of the time, it was a >> child >> enumerated with a parent and also with a grandparent or an aunt but on >> different dates. On those occasions I just figure the child went to >> visit >> grandma or to help out an aunt with younger children. I have no >> problem at >> all inventing possible scenarios. <smile> Take care. Marilyn > > Exactly! Everyone was supposed to be enumerated on the *census date*, > not the > date the census taker visited, but we all know that didn't always > happen. For > instance, during the 1990 Census, my oldest niece was living with us, > so I > reported her on the form as my niece. Her mom, my sister, living about > 15 > minutes away, and knowing that she always had lived with them, and > would be > again, also reported her living there. So it certainly has always > happened, > and probably always will! Sometimes it is the husband off on a remote > job, or > someone who is jailed or hospitalized on census day, etc., etc. > > Such a useful record, but so tricksy! > > Valorie > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Friday 23 March 2007 04:27, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 3/23/2007 2:01:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: > > as when the > same person is enumerated twice in the same census, in two different > places! > > > > Valorie, I have found this a couple of times for an individual -- and went > back and checked the dates of the census. Most of the time, it was a child > enumerated with a parent and also with a grandparent or an aunt but on > different dates. On those occasions I just figure the child went to visit > grandma or to help out an aunt with younger children. I have no problem at > all inventing possible scenarios. <smile> Take care. Marilyn Exactly! Everyone was supposed to be enumerated on the *census date*, not the date the census taker visited, but we all know that didn't always happen. For instance, during the 1990 Census, my oldest niece was living with us, so I reported her on the form as my niece. Her mom, my sister, living about 15 minutes away, and knowing that she always had lived with them, and would be again, also reported her living there. So it certainly has always happened, and probably always will! Sometimes it is the husband off on a remote job, or someone who is jailed or hospitalized on census day, etc., etc. Such a useful record, but so tricksy! Valorie

In a message dated 3/23/2007 2:01:16 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: as when the same person is enumerated twice in the same census, in two different places! Valorie, I have found this a couple of times for an individual -- and went back and checked the dates of the census. Most of the time, it was a child enumerated with a parent and also with a grandparent or an aunt but on different dates. On those occasions I just figure the child went to visit grandma or to help out an aunt with younger children. I have no problem at all inventing possible scenarios. <smile> Take care. Marilyn ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 3/22/2007 2:01:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: Yet, it lists the father of Ferris as born in Ohio. While that is true for stepfather Mark Gregg, it is not correrct for Ferris' actual father, Elias Baysinger, who was born in Breckinridge County, KY. Terri, I have found that sometimes whoever answers the questions does so to the best of their knowledge which is not always correct. The topic of where Elias was born may never have come up in conversation with Lydia. Take care. Marilyn ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Margaret may never have known Elias' state of birth. It seems that they didn't live together for very long, if ever. Also, the census taker may not have asked -- he may have been so used to putting the father's and mother's states in for the kids, he forgot it was a step-son. I value census records, but never give all the 'facts' full credence. Finding a family in the census basically shows that they lived in a particular place at a particular time. Even that is occasionally cast into doubt, as when the same person is enumerated twice in the same census, in two different places! Valorie On Wednesday 21 March 2007 13:56, Teresa Malinowski wrote: > Returning to this entry for Pharis (Ferris) Baysinger Gregg, it notes > that Ferris is a stepson of Mark Gregg. Yet, it lists the father of > Ferris as born in Ohio. While that is true for stepfather Mark Gregg, > it is not correrct for Ferris' actual father, Elias Baysinger, who was > born in Breckinridge County, KY. > > Terri > > On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:07 AM, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > > www.familysearch.org Note: STEP SON > > > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > > Mark GREGG Self M Male W 49 OH Carpenter OH PA > > Margret GREGG Wife M Female W 44 IN Keeping House NC > > KY > > Pharis GREGG SSon S Male W 24 IA Carpenter OH IN > > Jane GREGG Dau S Female W 19 IA OH IN > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------- > > -- > > Source Information: > > Census Place Jackson, Clarke, Iowa > > Family History Library Film 1254332 > > NA Film Number T9-0332 > > Page Number 179B

Returning to this entry for Pharis (Ferris) Baysinger Gregg, it notes that Ferris is a stepson of Mark Gregg. Yet, it lists the father of Ferris as born in Ohio. While that is true for stepfather Mark Gregg, it is not correrct for Ferris' actual father, Elias Baysinger, who was born in Breckinridge County, KY. Terri On Mar 14, 2007, at 7:07 AM, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > www.familysearch.org Note: STEP SON > > Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation > Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace > Mark GREGG Self M Male W 49 OH Carpenter OH PA > Margret GREGG Wife M Female W 44 IN Keeping House NC > KY > Pharis GREGG SSon S Male W 24 IA Carpenter OH IN > Jane GREGG Dau S Female W 19 IA OH IN > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------- > -- > Source Information: > Census Place Jackson, Clarke, Iowa > Family History Library Film 1254332 > NA Film Number T9-0332 > Page Number 179B > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers > free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In a message dated 3/21/2007 2:12:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time, baysinger-request@rootsweb.com writes: 1885 census Warren Co., Iowa > Elias H. Baysinter is family 105 and family 103 is > Absolom SCOTT, age 62 Typo on my part. Should be BAYSINGER. Y'all need to keep an eye on me. <smile> Take care. Marilyn ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Fascinating. Good sleuthing, Marilyn. Thank goodness you took time to ferret them out. I even checked out the 1885 state census when it came on line last week through Ancestry. But, even entering only the name Elias, never mind Baysinger, I still didn't turn them up. Terri On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:31 AM, GNEOLOG@aol.com wrote: > 1885 census Warren Co., Iowa > Elias H. Baysinter is family 105 and family 103 is > Absolom SCOTT, age 62 > LYDIA A. SCOTT, age 32, born Indiana > William A. SCOTT, age 4, born Warren Co. > > Just confirms one of my ideas. > William Absolom SCOTT -- AKA BAYSINGER in some census records-- was a > child > of Lydia's. Absolom is listed as Widowed and Lydia as single. Elias > obviously > claimed his as a son (??adopted him) because he is named in his will > as one > of his sons. > I am entering him as William A. (Scott) Baysinger in my files. No idea > about > his father. > > Here is the whole census > 1885 Iowa Census Warren County, Otter Twp family # 105 > Elias H. BASINGER, Twp. 75, Range 23, Section 4, NE 1/4 of NE 1/4 > Male, > married, age 49, farmer, born Kansas, parents Native born, entitled > to vote > Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: KY > Sarah F., age 19, born Warren County, Female, Single > Peter A. , age 17, born Warren County, male, single > Elias W. , age 15, born Warren County, male > Johnny A., age 13, male, born Warren County > Eadie B., age 11, female, born Warren County > James A. , age 9, male, born Warren County > > 1885 Iowa Census Warren County, Otter Twp family # 103 > Absolom SCOTT, Twp. 75, Range 23, Section 5, NE 1/4 of SE 1/4 Male, > farmer, > born Indiana, age 62, entitled to vote > Lydia, age 32, single, born Indiana > William A., age 4, born Iowa > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BAYSINGER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Found one of my multitude of mistakes in my family file. I had that Carl Baysinger, son of John Baysinger and Minnie Disney died April 25, 1897. Iowa State Census 1925, Warren county has Carl BAYSINGER age 31, value of home $2500, amount of mortgage $1000, amount of insurance on home $1000, lived in Iowa 31 years, completed 4 yrs of school in rural school, all able to read except Ella and all able to read and write except Sarah and Ella, 3 oldest children went to school 9 months in 1924, father: John BAYSINGER, born Iowa, age 58; mother- Minnie DISNEY, born Iowa, age 46; Occupation- laborer/unclassified, Church affiliation/None Nellie, wife, age 39, lived in Iowa 39 years, completed 6 years of school in rural school, father Joseph GREGG born Indiana, Mother- Sarah FARNELL born Iowa Herold, son, age 10, completed 5th grade Helen, daughter, age 8, completed 4th grade Sarah, daughter, age 7, completed 3rd grade Ella M., daughter, age 1 So you can see that Carl was definitely alive in 1925. Take care. Marilyn ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

1885 census Warren Co., Iowa Elias H. Baysinter is family 105 and family 103 is Absolom SCOTT, age 62 LYDIA A. SCOTT, age 32, born Indiana William A. SCOTT, age 4, born Warren Co. Just confirms one of my ideas. William Absolom SCOTT -- AKA BAYSINGER in some census records-- was a child of Lydia's. Absolom is listed as Widowed and Lydia as single. Elias obviously claimed his as a son (??adopted him) because he is named in his will as one of his sons. I am entering him as William A. (Scott) Baysinger in my files. No idea about his father. Here is the whole census 1885 Iowa Census Warren County, Otter Twp family # 105 Elias H. BASINGER, Twp. 75, Range 23, Section 4, NE 1/4 of NE 1/4 Male, married, age 49, farmer, born Kansas, parents Native born, entitled to vote Occ: Farmer Fa: KY Mo: KY Sarah F., age 19, born Warren County, Female, Single Peter A. , age 17, born Warren County, male, single Elias W. , age 15, born Warren County, male Johnny A., age 13, male, born Warren County Eadie B., age 11, female, born Warren County James A. , age 9, male, born Warren County 1885 Iowa Census Warren County, Otter Twp family # 103 Absolom SCOTT, Twp. 75, Range 23, Section 5, NE 1/4 of SE 1/4 Male, farmer, born Indiana, age 62, entitled to vote Lydia, age 32, single, born Indiana William A., age 4, born Iowa ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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