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    1. [Baysinger] Surname spelling variations
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. To start us off, how about listing all the variations in spelling of Baysinger/Basinger you've found in records? I've sometimes seen multiple spellings in the same record! So far, in my lines, I've seen Baysinger, Basinger, and Bösinger. I'd like to see a good listing so I can put it into our group description, so people searching for us can find us. Valorie New homepage: https://groups.io/g/Baysinger-Genealogy *Group Email Addresses* Post: [email protected] Subscribe: [email protected] Unsubscribe: [email protected] Group Owner: [email protected] Help: [email protected]

    01/22/2020 05:40:25
    1. [Baysinger] We're live at Groups.io
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. The invitations have gone out. I hope most of you will accept those invitations and continue to help one another with our Baysinger/Basinger research. If not, just discard. You can always change your mind: https://groups.io/g/Baysinger-Genealogy Until 2 March 2020, please post here and there - the Rootsweb lists will be archived and searchable. We also have a link there to the new group. I think we're set for the future. *Group Email Addresses* Post: [email protected] Subscribe: [email protected] Unsubscribe: [email protected] Group Owner: [email protected] Help: [email protected] Valorie

    01/17/2020 07:19:40
    1. [Baysinger] Re: [Basinger] Re: This list will be going away
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 4:36 PM Johnson Susan < [email protected]> wrote: > I would be interested. Right now I don't have much time to research but > hope to some day soon. > Thanks so much ! > Susan > Let's try it out! I will invite all present members of both Baysinger and Basinger lists to the new group which you can find at https://groups.io/g/Baysinger-Genealogy When you get the invitation, just click reply and then send. No need to type any reply or command. Or if you prefer, visit https://groups.io/g/Baysinger-Genealogy and click subscribe. Or: *Group Email Addresses* Post: [email protected] Subscribe: [email protected] Unsubscribe: [email protected] Group Owner: [email protected] Help: [email protected] Until 2 March 2020, please continue to post here on Rootsweb, as the lists will be archived and those archives are searchable. Feel free to post here *and* to [email protected] - that works just fine. Valorie ::snip old::

    01/17/2020 05:55:29
    1. [Baysinger] Re: This list will be going away
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hello folks, I've gotten zero replies to the email below. Nobody here is interested in sticking together? I've made a group for the Alsace-Lorraine list, where our Baysinger line emigrated from. You can see it at https://groups.io/g/Alsace-Lorraine and of course you can join if you want, although at this point we're in testing mode there. The lists here at Rootsweb will continue as usual up to 2 March 2020. Even if you do not want to continue as a list after that date, please post before then so that your information can be found in the list archives. *Please respond here on the list* if you are interested in moving to groups.io with me. Valorie On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:45 PM Valorie Zimmerman < [email protected]> wrote: > I am shocked and in grief about this. We've been sharing information and > helping one another for over 20 years here. See > https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/baysinger.rootsweb.com/1999/5/ > if you don't believe me! > > This was one of the first lists I ever "owned" and has been so rewarding > over the years. I thank each of you subscribers and contributors. > > Here is the text of the announcement to all of us listowners: > I left out the first bit: Beginning March 2nd, 2020 the Mailing Lists functionality on RootsWeb will be discontinued. Users will no longer be able to send outgoing emails or accept incoming emails. After that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on >> RootsWeb. >> As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are >> a great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message >> boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. >> Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this >> community. >> Sincerely, >> The RootsWeb team > > > Our Message Board is quite useful: > https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx . I urge you > to use them, especially because you can upload photos and other images to > the boards, which are not (and never were) available here on the list. By > the way, there are boards for Basinger, Bissinger, Bessinger, etc. as well. > > We do have the option to create a list elsewhere, and I'm willing to do > that, if you want it. Groups.io and Google Groups seem the most likely > option. Here is an example of a Groups.io mail list: > https://groups.io/g/newzealand/ and Google Groups: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/1720cowanimmigrant > > If Baysinger/Basinger researchers of all spellings etc. want a list, I'll > make just one: Baysinger. *If you are interested, please respond.* If > not, that's fine too. > > I'll miss you here, no matter what the future holds. > > Valorie >

    01/11/2020 11:29:18
    1. [Baysinger] This list will be going away
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. I am shocked and in grief about this. We've been sharing information and helping one another for over 20 years here. See https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/baysinger.rootsweb.com/1999/5/ if you don't believe me! This was one of the first lists I ever "owned" and has been so rewarding over the years. I thank each of you subscribers and contributors. Here is the text of the announcement to all of us listowners: Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > RootsWeb. > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > community. > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team Our Message Board is quite useful: https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx . I urge you to use them, especially because you can upload photos and other images to the boards, which are not (and never were) available here on the list. By the way, there are boards for Basinger, Bissinger, Bessinger, etc. as well. We do have the option to create a list elsewhere, and I'm willing to do that, if you want it. Groups.io and Google Groups seem the most likely option. Here is an example of a Groups.io mail list: https://groups.io/g/newzealand/ and Google Groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/1720cowanimmigrant If Baysinger/Basinger researchers of all spellings etc. want a list, I'll make just one: Baysinger. *If you are interested, please respond.* If not, that's fine too. I'll miss you here, no matter what the future holds. Valorie PS: I've been blogging frequently for my genealogy society lately, although not much about Baysingers directly. You might find some of the blogs interesting anyway: https://skcgs.blogspot.com/ -- http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her

    01/08/2020 10:45:14
    1. [Baysinger] Re: Peter Baysinger's 1857 claims of damages during "the late troubles" in Kansas Territory
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. While I was at it, I posted "The family of Dr Wm Graham would like to thank the descendants of Elias Baysinger" on the board as well. https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.baysinger/384/mb.ashx Valorie On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 3:42 PM Valorie Zimmerman < [email protected]> wrote: > I found the following as a "hint" on my Ancestry tree for Peter Baysinger, > my gggrandfather: > > Claims of the Citizens of Territory of Kansas, Vol 1859, p 558, 559, 560 > > #302 > "To the Honorable Commissioner of Claims: > The petition of Peter Baysinger, under the act of the legislative > assembly, and an act supplementary thereto, approved 23d of February, 1857, > providing for the auditing and certifying of claims for damage suffered > during the late troubles in Kansas Territory. The above named petitioner > respectfully shows to this commissioner, that > on or about the 30th of November, 1854, this petitioner resided at Black > Jack Point, on the Santa Fe road, in Kansas Territory; that while this > petitioner was absent from home a large band of armed men, as this > petitioner is informed and believes, entered the house of this petitioner > and drove his family from therein and stole and carried away five hundred > and sixty-five dollars in gold, broke and destroyed one gun, of the value > of fifteen dollars; that he was the legal owner of the said money and of > the said gun; that those persons claimed to be Missourians, and declared > that this petitioner should not live in Kansas Territory; that on or about > the 30th of March, 1855, a party of armed men, as the petitioner is > informed and believes, came to the house of this petitioner, while he was > absent, and tore the room off from the house and threw the sides of it > nearly down; also tearing down the chimney; put fire into the beds and lard > can, with the honest intention of burning the house; broke to pieces one > bedstead, one double-barrel shot-gun, one clock, and divers dishes and > household furniture, of the damage to this petitioner of five hundred > dollars; that this petitioner was the legal owner of said house and > property destroyed; that the house was one story and a half high and 18 by > 20 feet on the ground; that he now resides in Douglas county, Kansas > Territory, and that said property and money has not been returned to this > petitioner, or any part been returned to him, nor has any remuneration been > made therefor. Therefore this petitioner prays that the sum of ten hundred > and sixty dollars may be allowed him for his damage in the premises." > Signed Peter Baysinger, his mark, in Lawrence, November 16, 1857. > > There are also two statements from neighbors about this incident, and a > statement by Elizabeth E. Baysinger (Peter's daughter). The result was he > was awarded $800." > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BAYSINGER/2006-11/1164793294 > . > > The metadata about this information on Ancestry: "Claims of the Citizens > of Territory of Kansas > November, 1854 > Black Jack Point, Kansas Territory > Lynda Leeds originally shared this on 07 Apr 2011" > > I would love to see an image of these pages! Those could be posted on our > Message Board and linked to here on the list as well. I'll post this stuff > over there too. > > The archiver link is broken and a search doesn't find this petition. I did > find more about Peter Baysinger in Kansas here: > https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/baysinger.rootsweb.com/thread/6827606/ > > I tried to find the book itself online without success. WorldCat reports a > copy in Wyoming: > https://www.worldcat.org/title/claims-of-the-citizens-of-the-territory-of-kansas-report-of-hj-strickler-commissioner-to-audit-under-the-laws-of-the-territorial-legislature-of-kansas-the-claims-of-the-citizens-of-that-territory-for-losses-sustained-in-carrying-into-effect-the-laws-of-the-territory-or-growing-out-of-any-difficulties-in-the-territory-april-7-1858-referred-to-the-committee-on-the-territories-february-2-1859-ordered-to-be-printed/oclc/1065830494 > > I hope you are all well during this summer heat! > > Valorie >

    07/25/2019 05:32:34
    1. [Baysinger] Peter Baysinger's 1857 claims of damages during "the late troubles" in Kansas Territory
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. I found the following as a "hint" on my Ancestry tree for Peter Baysinger, my gggrandfather: Claims of the Citizens of Territory of Kansas, Vol 1859, p 558, 559, 560 #302 "To the Honorable Commissioner of Claims: The petition of Peter Baysinger, under the act of the legislative assembly, and an act supplementary thereto, approved 23d of February, 1857, providing for the auditing and certifying of claims for damage suffered during the late troubles in Kansas Territory. The above named petitioner respectfully shows to this commissioner, that on or about the 30th of November, 1854, this petitioner resided at Black Jack Point, on the Santa Fe road, in Kansas Territory; that while this petitioner was absent from home a large band of armed men, as this petitioner is informed and believes, entered the house of this petitioner and drove his family from therein and stole and carried away five hundred and sixty-five dollars in gold, broke and destroyed one gun, of the value of fifteen dollars; that he was the legal owner of the said money and of the said gun; that those persons claimed to be Missourians, and declared that this petitioner should not live in Kansas Territory; that on or about the 30th of March, 1855, a party of armed men, as the petitioner is informed and believes, came to the house of this petitioner, while he was absent, and tore the room off from the house and threw the sides of it nearly down; also tearing down the chimney; put fire into the beds and lard can, with the honest intention of burning the house; broke to pieces one bedstead, one double-barrel shot-gun, one clock, and divers dishes and household furniture, of the damage to this petitioner of five hundred dollars; that this petitioner was the legal owner of said house and property destroyed; that the house was one story and a half high and 18 by 20 feet on the ground; that he now resides in Douglas county, Kansas Territory, and that said property and money has not been returned to this petitioner, or any part been returned to him, nor has any remuneration been made therefor. Therefore this petitioner prays that the sum of ten hundred and sixty dollars may be allowed him for his damage in the premises." Signed Peter Baysinger, his mark, in Lawrence, November 16, 1857. There are also two statements from neighbors about this incident, and a statement by Elizabeth E. Baysinger (Peter's daughter). The result was he was awarded $800." http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BAYSINGER/2006-11/1164793294. The metadata about this information on Ancestry: "Claims of the Citizens of Territory of Kansas November, 1854 Black Jack Point, Kansas Territory Lynda Leeds originally shared this on 07 Apr 2011" I would love to see an image of these pages! Those could be posted on our Message Board and linked to here on the list as well. I'll post this stuff over there too. The archiver link is broken and a search doesn't find this petition. I did find more about Peter Baysinger in Kansas here: https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/baysinger.rootsweb.com/thread/6827606/ I tried to find the book itself online without success. WorldCat reports a copy in Wyoming: https://www.worldcat.org/title/claims-of-the-citizens-of-the-territory-of-kansas-report-of-hj-strickler-commissioner-to-audit-under-the-laws-of-the-territorial-legislature-of-kansas-the-claims-of-the-citizens-of-that-territory-for-losses-sustained-in-carrying-into-effect-the-laws-of-the-territory-or-growing-out-of-any-difficulties-in-the-territory-april-7-1858-referred-to-the-committee-on-the-territories-february-2-1859-ordered-to-be-printed/oclc/1065830494 I hope you are all well during this summer heat! Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her

    07/25/2019 04:42:09
    1. [Baysinger] Elias Henry Baysinger in Kansas
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hi everyone, years ago I made a blog post which said: Elias was in Kansas with Peter, his father, and their part in "Bloody Kansas" is mentioned in Congressional Records of the time. It is intriguing that they are spoken of as "armed Missourians," not Iowans. I'll link to the images of a couple of pages where Peter and Elias are mentioned, from a book I read on the Making of America site, Political Speeches Partly in the House and Senate Dealing Mainly with Kansas and Slavery. I was shocked to discover that my ancestors wanted Kansas to be a slave state, and were willing to not only fight for that, but enter into a secret society to do so! Title Page, "Armed Missourians", "Vote at the Point of a Sword". I believe this to be Elias in 1856 in KS: Name: LIAS BAYSINGER State: Kansas County: Fourth District Township: Terr. No Twp Listed Year: 1856 Page: NPL Database: KS 1856 State Census Index By 1857, Elias' father is in Douglas Co. KS: Name: PETER BAYSINGER State: Kansas County: Douglas Township: Calhoun Twp. Year: 1857 Page: 001 Database: KS 1857 State Census Index and so is Elias, same township, same page: Name: ELIAS BASINGER State: Kansas County: Douglas Township: Calhoun Twp. Year: 1857 Page: 001 Database: KS 1857 State Census Index By 1859, Peter has moved (or the boundaries of the county have been redrawn): Name: PETER BASINGER State: Kansas County: Douglas Township: Palmyra Twp Year: 1859 Page: 013 Database: KS 1859 State Census Index Marilyn found Elias in the 1860 Census! 1860 Willow Springs, Douglas County, Kansas Territory page 141 or 145, July 30, 1860 line 10 P. W. BARINGER, age 52, male,farmer, $1800/$300, born VA Elizabeth, age 46, female,KY Elias, age 26, male, farmer, KY Peter, age 21, male, farmer, KY William, age 19, male,KY Oregon, age 17, male, IL Nancy M. age 14, female, IN, attended school within the year Taylor, age 11, male, IA, attended school within the year Living next door are Peter's daughter and son-in-law and their family Daniel BARKER, age 32, male, OH Eva, age 25, female, IL Sarah M., age 7, IA, attended school Nancy E., age 3, IA Florence, age 1, NE https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__valorie.zimmerman.googlepages.com_PWBaringer1860DouglasCoKT.jpg&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=oE1iy5S1JRwyuJj9ZWpLWTKBvkTZfuqcKJiIB0NOcPI&m=00HWj8muW56-UW2q_Ay3gyS964h93-HXxrqRh12iPyc&s=Hhmds0-h81WugxFbXNYVUpy-g_OF_5q8hiii2w-8wNw&e= Cheryl Olsen copied it as a "story" and attached it to Elias on her tree at Ancestry.com. When I finally got around to building a tree there, I found it and copied it back! However I posted a comment: "I was completely wrong that the Baysingers were pro-slavery, and later research bore out how much they fought for and suffered for abolition and the Union." Today there were two followup comments I thought everyone here would appreciate seeing: dunlaplindseth: The family of Dr Wm Graham would like to thank the descendants of Elias Baysinger for his quick thinking as a member of the "Prairie City Home Guard", a militia formed in 1856 for the protection of Free-State settlers in Palmyra township, Douglas Co, KS. These settlers were abolitionists and believed KS should be free of slavery. On the evening of Sat, May 31, 1856, these two men went looking for pro-slavery Missouri Capt Henry Clay Pate and his men, in KS to drive out Free-Staters and make KS a slave state. Baysinger and Graham were unexpectedly "surprised and halted by these fellows, and Dr Graham taken prisoner...but Mr. Baysinger, by feigning that his horse had become unmanageable, succeeded in getting a few rods away....when he put spurs to his horse and was away before they thought what to do. He carried the news to Capt. Shore...at Prairie City." (By Robert H Pearson, The Evening Tribune, Lawrence KS 28 Feb 1885) This is one of the events that triggered the Battle of Black Jack, 2 Jun 1856, between Capt Shore, militant abolitionist John Brown and Capt Henry C Pate. Elias Baysinger fought along side Shore and Brown. Dr Graham escaped during the battle. Pate surrendered. dunlaplindseth: The author of the the above quoted newpaper article, Robert Hall Pearson married Elias' sister, Catherine Ann Baysinger on 25 Sep 1855. Other members of Capt Shore's Militia include Peter Baysinger and Peter Baysinger Jr. and Richard N Pearson, Roberts brother. Robert himself was a member of Capt Dexter's militia. There are MANY versions of the Battle of Black Jack. My favorite is the version by William A Phillips, special reporter for the New York Tribune, "Conquest of Kansas by Missouri and her Allies..." because Dr Graham is mentioned at length. Elias is mentioned also as "Mr. Barringer" and "The Life and Letters of John Brown, Liberator of Kansas and Martyr of Virginia" by F. B Sanborn also mentions Elias but as "Elias Basinger". A Google search will call up digitized and searchable versions of these books.  Valorie Zimmerman: It is so cool to hear more detail about this part of US history that our ancestors created and handed down to us. Thank you! I can add here that I'm grateful to Cheryl for sharing that story on Ancestry, and for dunlaplindseth for adding so much depth to the story. Has anyone read "The Life and Letters of John Brown, Liberator of Kansas and Martyr of Virginia" by F. B Sanborn? Having recently read "The Underground Railroad" by Colson Whitehead (not historically accurate, but based on slave narratives nonetheless) and have gotten quite interested in the role of John Brown in the ultimate success of abolition here in the US. Valorie -- https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__about.me_valoriez&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=oE1iy5S1JRwyuJj9ZWpLWTKBvkTZfuqcKJiIB0NOcPI&m=00HWj8muW56-UW2q_Ay3gyS964h93-HXxrqRh12iPyc&s=-LqmQrm4qPF-FZrcaCj7027AuNyP2hmg422XVc-nrUA&e=

    07/08/2018 09:52:35
    1. [Baysinger] Re: Gatewayed Message Board posts
    2. robinfmg
    3. Thank you so much, Valorie! Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message --------From: Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> Date: 4/12/18 9:50 PM (GMT-08:00) To: Baysinger list <[email protected]>, Basinger list <[email protected]> Subject: [Baysinger] Gatewayed Message Board posts Hi folks, In the past, the Basinger/Baysinger Message Board posts were "gatewayed" to the matching list, so list subscribers could "click the link" and reply on the board if they were interested in the post. Since the recent list changes, those gateway posts are just gobbledegook which I can't allow to post here. The Rootsweb Product Manager has told us listowners to just discard these malformed posts, and that the posts we used to see here will not return. She has advised us to tell researchers to visit the Message Board they are interested in and to subscribe to the threads and/or whole boards in which we are interested. Our Message Boards are here: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx and http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.basinger/mb.ashx I personally try to remember to post to the board as well as the list to get as wide readership as possible. The boards are powerful because they are found by search engines, and one can attach photos and other images to posts, which is not possible here on the list. All the best, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez _______________________________________________ ********* Resources for list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists.  Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/ Your privacy is important to us.  View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information.  Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    04/12/2018 11:41:53
    1. [Baysinger] Gatewayed Message Board posts
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hi folks, In the past, the Basinger/Baysinger Message Board posts were "gatewayed" to the matching list, so list subscribers could "click the link" and reply on the board if they were interested in the post. Since the recent list changes, those gateway posts are just gobbledegook which I can't allow to post here. The Rootsweb Product Manager has told us listowners to just discard these malformed posts, and that the posts we used to see here will not return. She has advised us to tell researchers to visit the Message Board they are interested in and to subscribe to the threads and/or whole boards in which we are interested. Our Message Boards are here: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx and http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.basinger/mb.ashx I personally try to remember to post to the board as well as the list to get as wide readership as possible. The boards are powerful because they are found by search engines, and one can attach photos and other images to posts, which is not possible here on the list. All the best, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

    04/12/2018 10:50:58
    1. [Baysinger] Hi folks, if you need help with the list....
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Rootsweb has a nice help page now: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/listsHelp Hope this helps, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

    04/06/2018 11:37:14
    1. [Baysinger] Rootsweb lists are alive again!
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hello everybody, After some months, RootsWeb mailing lists are up and running on updated software. So a few things are changed, some for the better. One of the items currently being addressed is why messages from subscribers are not always going directly to the list. Sometimes these posts are being held for administrative action. This could be because the poster - although subscribed to the list - may not be registered with RootsWeb. So my advice is to register with RootsWeb. It takes only a few moments and might fix the posting issues. Instructions: http://home.rootsweb.ancestry.com/listindexes/setupmail If you had an account set up before, you can use the same email and username, but you *must* choose a new password. If you are an Ancestry member, please do not use the same password as you use there. One of the great things about registering is that you will be able to control many things about your list mail from Rootsweb without contacting the listowner. All the best, Valorie list admin -- http://about.me/valoriez

    03/26/2018 08:33:45
    1. Re: [Baysinger] Death of Larry Payne
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. He was a very fine researcher, and I learned from him every time we communicated. Indeed I am still active in genealogy, more than ever before in fact. Especially since my daddy's death back in May. Right now I'm trying to wring all the information out of MyHeritage that I can! And for awhile I was pretty active adding to Wikitree, but I've slacked a bit there. I'm still gathering facts and images to put on those pages though. One exciting Baysinger bit -- I've found ancestral family back in the Alsace, Germany and Switzerland. I've not looked at the records however, but certainly plan to do that -- and write about it to the list. Valorie On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Terri Malinowski <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Valorie, > > Thank you for this info. I had wondered, too, about Larry Payne. I corresponded with him a bit in my earlier days of genealogy, and he was a treasure. So helpful, methodical and precise in his research, and always available. We were fortunate. > > I'm glad to see you still in the fray, Cousin, and hope 2017 is a productive and delightful year for you and yours. > > Always, > Terri Malinowski > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 10, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I was searching for a Pennsylvania marriage record for one of our >> Baysingers, and came across a discussion from years ago on the list >> and board, and wondered why I hadn't heard from Larry for awhile. I >> found an obit here: >> >> http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theithacajournal/obituary.aspx?pid=153047390 >> >> Ithaca: Lawrence E. Payne, Ph.D., a renowned mathematician, wonderful >> father and friend, died at Hospicare in Ithaca, NY on Thurs., August >> 11, 2011, surrounded by his children. He was 87 years old. >> >> Larry was born in 1923 to Robert and Harriet (Lasher) Payne in a rural >> farming community in southern Illinois, one of 5 children. Though his >> family was poor, he always described his childhood as a happy time - >> one in which he learned the value of small things. He attended a >> one-room school house, followed by St. Henry Preparatory Seminary. He >> entered the U.S. Navy in 1943 and earned a BS in Mechanical >> Engineering and an MS and PhD in Applied Mathematics from Iowa State, >> where he met his beloved wife, Ruth. >> >> Larry began his academic career as an Asst. Professor at the Univ. of >> AZ. From there he joined the faculty at the Univ. of MD. 14 years >> later, he became Professor of Applied Mathematics at Cornell >> University, where he worked until his retirement in 1994. An author of >> 2 books and 300 papers, Larry had an international reputation as an >> innovative applied mathematician, especially in the area of partial >> differential equations as applied to civil and mechanical engineering. >> He was awarded the prestigious Steele prize of the American >> Mathematical Society in 1972. Larry was invited to lecture and teach >> around the world, and in 1990 he received an honorary Doctor of >> Science degree from the National University of Ireland. He was >> respected and well-liked by those in his field, and as one colleague >> and former student noted, he "never heard an unkind word about Larry's >> work or about him personally." >> >> Larry was a passionate genealogist, enjoyed a challenging Scrabble >> game, completed The New York Times crossword puzzle in a flash and in >> pen, loved the great outdoors, and grew, picked and preserved various >> fruits, vegetables and berries. He was a loving husband, father and >> friend who greatly enjoyed his weekly get-togethers with his "Old >> Codgers" buddies. A devout Catholic, he was an active member of St. >> Catherine of Siena's parish since 1965. >> >> Larry is predeceased by his dear wife, Ruth (Winterstein) Payne, and >> their son, John Payne. He will be greatly missed by their surviving >> children: Fr. Steven Payne, OCD, of Nairobi, Kenya, Marcia McKenzie >> and her husband, Woody, of Lynchburg, VA, Christopher Payne and his >> wife, Nicola, of Bloomington, IN, and Michele Koch and her husband, >> Bill, of Louisville, KY; their four cherished grandchildren (Keenan >> and Kara McKenzie, Sarah Payne and Natalie Koch); and his brother, >> Richard Payne of Walhalla, SC. >> >> The Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated by Fr. Steven Payne at >> St. Catherine of Siena Church on Sun., August 14, at 3 p.m. with a >> reception to follow. A private burial will take place at the Pleasant >> Grove Road Cemetery at a later time. In lieu of flowers, contributions >> in Larry's memory may be made to Hospicare or St. Catherine of Siena >> Church. Bangs Funeral Home will be in charge of arrangements. >> >> Published in Ithaca Journal on Aug. 12, 2011 >> >> I miss him. Rest in Peace, Larry Payne. >> >> Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

    01/10/2017 01:52:29
    1. Re: [Baysinger] BAYSINGER Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
    2. Thanks Valorie, Marilyn -----Original Message----- From: baysinger-request <[email protected]> To: baysinger <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Jan 10, 2017 11:19 am Subject: BAYSINGER Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1 Send BAYSINGER mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists9.rootsweb.ancestry.com/mailman/listinfo/baysinger or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BAYSINGER digest..." Plain digests are sent to users with all posts listed in one long email. For most subscribers, MIME digests will appear with all posts as individual attachments. The default digest delivery is Plain. 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Re: Death of Larry Payne (Terri Malinowski) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 01:24:33 -0800 From: Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> To: Baysinger list <[email protected]> Subject: [Baysinger] Death of Larry Payne Message-ID: <[email protected]om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I was searching for a Pennsylvania marriage record for one of our Baysingers, and came across a discussion from years ago on the list and board, and wondered why I hadn't heard from Larry for awhile. I found an obit here: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theithacajournal/obituary.aspx?pid=153047390 Ithaca: Lawrence E. Payne, Ph.D., a renowned mathematician, wonderful father and friend, died at Hospicare in Ithaca, NY on Thurs., August 11, 2011, surrounded by his children. He was 87 years old. Larry was born in 1923 to Robert and Harriet (Lasher) Payne in a rural farming community in southern Illinois, one of 5 children. Though his family was poor, he always described his childhood as a happy time - one in which he learned the value of small things. He attended a one-room school house, followed by St. Henry Preparatory Seminary. He entered the U.S. Navy in 1943 and earned a BS in Mechanical Engineering and an MS and PhD in Applied Mathematics from Iowa State, where he met his beloved wife, Ruth. Larry began his academic career as an Asst. Professor at the Univ. of AZ. From there he joined the faculty at the Univ. of MD. 14 years later, he became Professor of Applied Mathematics at Cornell University, where he worked until his retirement in 1994. An author of 2 books and 300 papers, Larry had an international reputation as an innovative applied mathematician, especially in the area of partial differential equations as applied to civil and mechanical engineering. He was awarded the prestigious Steele prize of the American Mathematical Society in 1972. Larry was invited to lecture and teach around the world, and in 1990 he received an honorary Doctor of Science degree from the National University of Ireland. He was respected and well-liked by those in his field, and as one colleague and former student noted, he "never heard an unkind word about Larry's work or about him personally." Larry was a passionate genealogist, enjoyed a challenging Scrabble game, completed The New York Times crossword puzzle in a flash and in pen, loved the great outdoors, and grew, picked and preserved various fruits, vegetables and berries. He was a loving husband, father and friend who greatly enjoyed his weekly get-togethers with his "Old Codgers" buddies. A devout Catholic, he was an active member of St. Catherine of Siena's parish since 1965. Larry is predeceased by his dear wife, Ruth (Winterstein) Payne, and their son, John Payne. He will be greatly missed by their surviving children: Fr. Steven Payne, OCD, of Nairobi, Kenya, Marcia McKenzie and her husband, Woody, of Lynchburg, VA, Christopher Payne and his wife, Nicola, of Bloomington, IN, and Michele Koch and her husband, Bill, of Louisville, KY; their four cherished grandchildren (Keenan and Kara McKenzie, Sarah Payne and Natalie Koch); and his brother, Richard Payne of Walhalla, SC. The Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated by Fr. Steven Payne at St. Catherine of Siena Church on Sun., August 14, at 3 p.m. with a reception to follow. A private burial will take place at the Pleasant Grove Road Cemetery at a later time. In lieu of flowers, contributions in Larry's memory may be made to Hospicare or St. Catherine of Siena Church. Bangs Funeral Home will be in charge of arrangements. Published in Ithaca Journal on Aug. 12, 2011 I miss him. Rest in Peace, Larry Payne. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 09:19:06 -0800 From: Terri Malinowski <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Baysinger] Death of Larry Payne Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, Valorie, Thank you for this info. I had wondered, too, about Larry Payne. I corresponded with him a bit in my earlier days of genealogy, and he was a treasure. So helpful, methodical and precise in his research, and always available. We were fortunate. I'm glad to see you still in the fray, Cousin, and hope 2017 is a productive and delightful year for you and yours. Always, Terri Malinowski Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 10, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote: > > I was searching for a Pennsylvania marriage record for one of our > Baysingers, and came across a discussion from years ago on the list > and board, and wondered why I hadn't heard from Larry for awhile. I > found an obit here: > > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theithacajournal/obituary.aspx?pid=153047390 > > Ithaca: Lawrence E. Payne, Ph.D., a renowned mathematician, wonderful > father and friend, died at Hospicare in Ithaca, NY on Thurs., August > 11, 2011, surrounded by his children. He was 87 years old. > > Larry was born in 1923 to Robert and Harriet (Lasher) Payne in a rural > farming community in southern Illinois, one of 5 children. Though his > family was poor, he always described his childhood as a happy time - > one in which he learned the value of small things. He attended a > one-room school house, followed by St. Henry Preparatory Seminary. He > entered the U.S. Navy in 1943 and earned a BS in Mechanical > Engineering and an MS and PhD in Applied Mathematics from Iowa State, > where he met his beloved wife, Ruth. > > Larry began his academic career as an Asst. Professor at the Univ. of > AZ. From there he joined the faculty at the Univ. of MD. 14 years > later, he became Professor of Applied Mathematics at Cornell > University, where he worked until his retirement in 1994. An author of > 2 books and 300 papers, Larry had an international reputation as an > innovative applied mathematician, especially in the area of partial > differential equations as applied to civil and mechanical engineering. > He was awarded the prestigious Steele prize of the American > Mathematical Society in 1972. Larry was invited to lecture and teach > around the world, and in 1990 he received an honorary Doctor of > Science degree from the National University of Ireland. He was > respected and well-liked by those in his field, and as one colleague > and former student noted, he "never heard an unkind word about Larry's > work or about him personally." > > Larry was a passionate genealogist, enjoyed a challenging Scrabble > game, completed The New York Times crossword puzzle in a flash and in > pen, loved the great outdoors, and grew, picked and preserved various > fruits, vegetables and berries. He was a loving husband, father and > friend who greatly enjoyed his weekly get-togethers with his "Old > Codgers" buddies. A devout Catholic, he was an active member of St. > Catherine of Siena's parish since 1965. > > Larry is predeceased by his dear wife, Ruth (Winterstein) Payne, and > their son, John Payne. He will be greatly missed by their surviving > children: Fr. Steven Payne, OCD, of Nairobi, Kenya, Marcia McKenzie > and her husband, Woody, of Lynchburg, VA, Christopher Payne and his > wife, Nicola, of Bloomington, IN, and Michele Koch and her husband, > Bill, of Louisville, KY; their four cherished grandchildren (Keenan > and Kara McKenzie, Sarah Payne and Natalie Koch); and his brother, > Richard Payne of Walhalla, SC. > > The Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated by Fr. Steven Payne at > St. Catherine of Siena Church on Sun., August 14, at 3 p.m. with a > reception to follow. A private burial will take place at the Pleasant > Grove Road Cemetery at a later time. In lieu of flowers, contributions > in Larry's memory may be made to Hospicare or St. Catherine of Siena > Church. Bangs Funeral Home will be in charge of arrangements. > > Published in Ithaca Journal on Aug. 12, 2011 > > I miss him. Rest in Peace, Larry Payne. > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer To contact the BAYSINGER list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the BAYSINGER mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. ------------------------------ End of BAYSINGER Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1 ****************************************

    01/10/2017 08:28:39
    1. Re: [Baysinger] Death of Larry Payne
    2. Terri Malinowski
    3. Hi, Valorie, Thank you for this info. I had wondered, too, about Larry Payne. I corresponded with him a bit in my earlier days of genealogy, and he was a treasure. So helpful, methodical and precise in his research, and always available. We were fortunate. I'm glad to see you still in the fray, Cousin, and hope 2017 is a productive and delightful year for you and yours. Always, Terri Malinowski Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 10, 2017, at 1:24 AM, Valorie Zimmerman <[email protected]> wrote: > > I was searching for a Pennsylvania marriage record for one of our > Baysingers, and came across a discussion from years ago on the list > and board, and wondered why I hadn't heard from Larry for awhile. I > found an obit here: > > http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theithacajournal/obituary.aspx?pid=153047390 > > Ithaca: Lawrence E. Payne, Ph.D., a renowned mathematician, wonderful > father and friend, died at Hospicare in Ithaca, NY on Thurs., August > 11, 2011, surrounded by his children. He was 87 years old. > > Larry was born in 1923 to Robert and Harriet (Lasher) Payne in a rural > farming community in southern Illinois, one of 5 children. Though his > family was poor, he always described his childhood as a happy time - > one in which he learned the value of small things. He attended a > one-room school house, followed by St. Henry Preparatory Seminary. He > entered the U.S. Navy in 1943 and earned a BS in Mechanical > Engineering and an MS and PhD in Applied Mathematics from Iowa State, > where he met his beloved wife, Ruth. > > Larry began his academic career as an Asst. Professor at the Univ. of > AZ. From there he joined the faculty at the Univ. of MD. 14 years > later, he became Professor of Applied Mathematics at Cornell > University, where he worked until his retirement in 1994. An author of > 2 books and 300 papers, Larry had an international reputation as an > innovative applied mathematician, especially in the area of partial > differential equations as applied to civil and mechanical engineering. > He was awarded the prestigious Steele prize of the American > Mathematical Society in 1972. Larry was invited to lecture and teach > around the world, and in 1990 he received an honorary Doctor of > Science degree from the National University of Ireland. He was > respected and well-liked by those in his field, and as one colleague > and former student noted, he "never heard an unkind word about Larry's > work or about him personally." > > Larry was a passionate genealogist, enjoyed a challenging Scrabble > game, completed The New York Times crossword puzzle in a flash and in > pen, loved the great outdoors, and grew, picked and preserved various > fruits, vegetables and berries. He was a loving husband, father and > friend who greatly enjoyed his weekly get-togethers with his "Old > Codgers" buddies. A devout Catholic, he was an active member of St. > Catherine of Siena's parish since 1965. > > Larry is predeceased by his dear wife, Ruth (Winterstein) Payne, and > their son, John Payne. He will be greatly missed by their surviving > children: Fr. Steven Payne, OCD, of Nairobi, Kenya, Marcia McKenzie > and her husband, Woody, of Lynchburg, VA, Christopher Payne and his > wife, Nicola, of Bloomington, IN, and Michele Koch and her husband, > Bill, of Louisville, KY; their four cherished grandchildren (Keenan > and Kara McKenzie, Sarah Payne and Natalie Koch); and his brother, > Richard Payne of Walhalla, SC. > > The Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated by Fr. Steven Payne at > St. Catherine of Siena Church on Sun., August 14, at 3 p.m. with a > reception to follow. A private burial will take place at the Pleasant > Grove Road Cemetery at a later time. In lieu of flowers, contributions > in Larry's memory may be made to Hospicare or St. Catherine of Siena > Church. Bangs Funeral Home will be in charge of arrangements. > > Published in Ithaca Journal on Aug. 12, 2011 > > I miss him. Rest in Peace, Larry Payne. > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez > ********* > Resources for list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Baysinger-L.htm > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/10/2017 02:19:06
    1. [Baysinger] Death of Larry Payne
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. I was searching for a Pennsylvania marriage record for one of our Baysingers, and came across a discussion from years ago on the list and board, and wondered why I hadn't heard from Larry for awhile. I found an obit here: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/theithacajournal/obituary.aspx?pid=153047390 Ithaca: Lawrence E. Payne, Ph.D., a renowned mathematician, wonderful father and friend, died at Hospicare in Ithaca, NY on Thurs., August 11, 2011, surrounded by his children. He was 87 years old. Larry was born in 1923 to Robert and Harriet (Lasher) Payne in a rural farming community in southern Illinois, one of 5 children. Though his family was poor, he always described his childhood as a happy time - one in which he learned the value of small things. He attended a one-room school house, followed by St. Henry Preparatory Seminary. He entered the U.S. Navy in 1943 and earned a BS in Mechanical Engineering and an MS and PhD in Applied Mathematics from Iowa State, where he met his beloved wife, Ruth. Larry began his academic career as an Asst. Professor at the Univ. of AZ. From there he joined the faculty at the Univ. of MD. 14 years later, he became Professor of Applied Mathematics at Cornell University, where he worked until his retirement in 1994. An author of 2 books and 300 papers, Larry had an international reputation as an innovative applied mathematician, especially in the area of partial differential equations as applied to civil and mechanical engineering. He was awarded the prestigious Steele prize of the American Mathematical Society in 1972. Larry was invited to lecture and teach around the world, and in 1990 he received an honorary Doctor of Science degree from the National University of Ireland. He was respected and well-liked by those in his field, and as one colleague and former student noted, he "never heard an unkind word about Larry's work or about him personally." Larry was a passionate genealogist, enjoyed a challenging Scrabble game, completed The New York Times crossword puzzle in a flash and in pen, loved the great outdoors, and grew, picked and preserved various fruits, vegetables and berries. He was a loving husband, father and friend who greatly enjoyed his weekly get-togethers with his "Old Codgers" buddies. A devout Catholic, he was an active member of St. Catherine of Siena's parish since 1965. Larry is predeceased by his dear wife, Ruth (Winterstein) Payne, and their son, John Payne. He will be greatly missed by their surviving children: Fr. Steven Payne, OCD, of Nairobi, Kenya, Marcia McKenzie and her husband, Woody, of Lynchburg, VA, Christopher Payne and his wife, Nicola, of Bloomington, IN, and Michele Koch and her husband, Bill, of Louisville, KY; their four cherished grandchildren (Keenan and Kara McKenzie, Sarah Payne and Natalie Koch); and his brother, Richard Payne of Walhalla, SC. The Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated by Fr. Steven Payne at St. Catherine of Siena Church on Sun., August 14, at 3 p.m. with a reception to follow. A private burial will take place at the Pleasant Grove Road Cemetery at a later time. In lieu of flowers, contributions in Larry's memory may be made to Hospicare or St. Catherine of Siena Church. Bangs Funeral Home will be in charge of arrangements. Published in Ithaca Journal on Aug. 12, 2011 I miss him. Rest in Peace, Larry Payne. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

    01/09/2017 06:24:33
    1. [Baysinger] How are you doing
    2. jococity via
    3. http://exalumnasmacallao.org.pe/grop-3232323400030303.php From: jococity Code: 2zvtx98hhv9lcg9u8 Time: 8/3/2016 12:21:01 PM

    08/03/2016 01:21:02
    1. Re: [Baysinger] Baysinger history
    2. Valorie Zimmerman via
    3. Oh Terri, it's so good to hear from you. I've been thinking of you often as I've plunged into genealogy again after my daddy's death. I'll invite you to the Baysinger pages on Wikitree, so you can fix errors that might have crept in. Anyone from the list is welcome to pitch in too! Yes, the book (like census or any other source) is just clues, and sometimes clues lead us astray. But meeting real people, like Lewis -- nothing can take *that* away. Valorie PS: Now that I have a bit more info about the family in question, I'll do more research. It seems that the link I thought was shaky, is non-existant. -v On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Terri Malinowski <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Valorie, > > Since we are Baysinger cousins in Washington state, it's good to stay in > touch. I know you remember that Corene Baysinger's book has a number of > inaccuracies, so it isn't always a reliable source. But it's sure better > than not having a definitive family line. Thanks for reminding me. I relied > more on Larry Payne because he was quite accurate. > > Incidentally, the descendent mentioned, Lewis Baysinger, paid my family a > visit for a week at our home on Storm Lake near Snohomish when I was a > youngster. He said he wanted to establish a connection with our end of the > Baysinger family, as I recall. > > Your cousin, > Terri Baysinger Malinowski > > > > On Jun 12, 2016, at 11:20 PM, Valorie Zimmerman via wrote: > >> Hi Linda, nice to hear from you. I'm CC'ing the Baysinger list, since >> that is where the experts are. I have a copy of the Baysinger book, >> and will look up what I can, below. >> >> Baysinger list, please CC Linda, as she is not yet subscribed to the list. >> >> On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Valorie, >>> >>> I am glad to hear from you! >>> >>> I have been digging around and found some further information about the >>> Baysingers. >>> I was not aware of a Baysinger book. How would I go about finding it? >> >> >> It is long out of print (private printing) and is mostly about the >> Valentine Baysinger line. But I have have in addition much research >> and notes from Paul Montgomery, Larry Payne and others, bound with my >> copy of that book by Lola Corene Baysinger Wagner. >> >>> I have found more information about William Henry, who was my great great >>> grandfather. >>> >>> Johann Peter and Barbara Schneider had a son Casper. Casper and Eve >>> Snyder/Snider had a son John. John and Priscilla Mary Polly Williams had >>> a >>> son William Henry. >>> >>> William Henry was born in 1824, in Breckenridge Co., KY. He served in the >>> civil war and was wounded at the battle of Knickajack Gap, Georgia. >> >> >> This is possibly him in the NPS Soldiers & Sailors database: >> >> https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=8C3E6A80-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A >> >> Baysinger , William H. >> BATTLE UNIT NAME: >> 92nd Regiment, Illinois Infantry >> SIDE: >> Union >> COMPANY: >> A >> SOLDIER'S RANK IN: >> Private >> SOLDIER'S RANK OUT: >> Private >> >> FILM NUMBER: >> M539 ROLL 5 >> >> If so, his unit is detailed here: >> >> https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=UIL0092RI >> >> This is where the research breaks down. I'm not sure that the William >> H. Baysinger above, and the William H. below are the same person. On >> the other hand, there don't seem to be other William Henry (or >> Harrison) possibiiities about. >> >>> The last >>> census he was listed in was in 1870, when he was living in Falls >>> township, >>> Cerro Gordo County, Iowa. He was then 46 years old. In 1860, he was >>> living >>> in Rock Grove, Floyd, Iowa. In 1856, he was living in Polk, Bremer, Iowa. >>> I >>> can’t find a record of his death. >>> He was married to Elitha/Aletha Jane Tucker Cooper. She was born Oct. 2, >>> 1838 in Hancock, Ill. Elitha Jane died on March 13, 1904 and was buried >>> in >>> the Grand Army of the Republic Cemetery in Eagle Bend, Todd Co. MN. >> >> >> FamilySearch Family Tree has her as Alethea Baysinger (born Copper) >> Birth: Oct 1837 - West Point, Jackson, Illinois, United States >> Death: 1908 - Minnesota >> Husband: William Henry Baysinger >> Son: Lewis Baysinger >> >> Looks like the same person. >> >>> William H and Elitha Jane had a son, Lewis Cooper, born in Ill in June >>> 1862. >>> He married Albertina/Tena/Lena Thranz in 1889 in Mason City, Iowa. Their >>> son >>> Myron Henry, was my grandpa. He was born in Plymouth, Iowa in 1890. I >>> didn’t >>> know that, but I remember him talking about going to Iowa to visit >>> relatives, in the summer. >>> >>> I have tried to find info on Iowa State sites, but I haven’t. When did >>> William H die and where is he buried? >>> >>> The other family trees similar to mine have a William Alsen, instead, who >>> died in Kansas. I don’t think that is correct. >> >> >> William Alsen seems to be the son of Valentine Baysinger, and Serena >> Jane Baysinger (born Ruby). This is Casper's younger brother. >> >>> Does this line up with the Baysinger info you have? >> >> >> My line is through the immigrants' son Casper as well. His son Peter >> born 1808 married Elizabeth Rice in Kentucky, 1832. Their oldest son >> Elias Henry born 1832 married my ggrandmother Sarah Maria Goosic in >> Warren County, Iowa and had my ggrandfather John Alfred Baysinger, who >> married Minnie Catherine Disney in Warren County, Iowa. Their eldest >> daughter Anna married my grandfather Harvey McBee. My mother was their >> seventh child of eleven! My mom was born in Warren County, Iowa too. >> >> I don't have an Ancestry sub right now, but I do use MyHeritage pretty >> heavily. I download what I can, and am trying to upload images and >> other evidence to Wikitree. It is the best site I've found for >> collaboration. I have no problem looking at other people's trees to >> get some hints as to where to look, but I try to rely on evidence such >> as census, BMD, military, legal and land records. The further back I >> get the more easily muddled the evidence is. I've put some of my >> thinking into the Wikitree page for William H., at >> http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Baysinger-34. Feel free to make that page >> better and more accurate, to link the census images to other family >> members, etc. If you feel like taking over the page, that's fine too. >> >> If you add some more information, I'll check on MyHeritage and see if >> they have supporting evidence. You may be able to see my tree there >> and supporting evidence: >> https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-263769091/cowan-mcbee >> >>> I appreciate your help so much. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Linda Baysinger Peck >> >> >> Thanks for writing! I hope you join the Baysinger list or post on the >> Baysinger message board: >> http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx . Those messages >> are relayed here, although unfortunately sometimes people forget and >> answer here on the list, rather than clicking the link, and answering >> on the board. Clumsy system, but that's what we have. >> >> All the best, >> >> Your cousin Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

    06/14/2016 10:32:02
    1. Re: [Baysinger] Baysinger history
    2. Valorie Zimmerman via
    3. Hi Linda, nice to hear from you. I'm CC'ing the Baysinger list, since that is where the experts are. I have a copy of the Baysinger book, and will look up what I can, below. Baysinger list, please CC Linda, as she is not yet subscribed to the list. On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 3:04 AM, Linda <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello Valorie, > > I am glad to hear from you! > > I have been digging around and found some further information about the > Baysingers. > I was not aware of a Baysinger book. How would I go about finding it? It is long out of print (private printing) and is mostly about the Valentine Baysinger line. But I have have in addition much research and notes from Paul Montgomery, Larry Payne and others, bound with my copy of that book by Lola Corene Baysinger Wagner. > I have found more information about William Henry, who was my great great > grandfather. > > Johann Peter and Barbara Schneider had a son Casper. Casper and Eve > Snyder/Snider had a son John. John and Priscilla Mary Polly Williams had a > son William Henry. > > William Henry was born in 1824, in Breckenridge Co., KY. He served in the > civil war and was wounded at the battle of Knickajack Gap, Georgia. This is possibly him in the NPS Soldiers & Sailors database: https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-soldiers-detail.htm?soldierId=8C3E6A80-DC7A-DF11-BF36-B8AC6F5D926A Baysinger , William H. BATTLE UNIT NAME: 92nd Regiment, Illinois Infantry SIDE: Union COMPANY: A SOLDIER'S RANK IN: Private SOLDIER'S RANK OUT: Private FILM NUMBER: M539 ROLL 5 If so, his unit is detailed here: https://www.nps.gov/civilwar/search-battle-units-detail.htm?battleUnitCode=UIL0092RI This is where the research breaks down. I'm not sure that the William H. Baysinger above, and the William H. below are the same person. On the other hand, there don't seem to be other William Henry (or Harrison) possibiiities about. > The last > census he was listed in was in 1870, when he was living in Falls township, > Cerro Gordo County, Iowa. He was then 46 years old. In 1860, he was living > in Rock Grove, Floyd, Iowa. In 1856, he was living in Polk, Bremer, Iowa. I > can’t find a record of his death. > He was married to Elitha/Aletha Jane Tucker Cooper. She was born Oct. 2, > 1838 in Hancock, Ill. Elitha Jane died on March 13, 1904 and was buried in > the Grand Army of the Republic Cemetery in Eagle Bend, Todd Co. MN. FamilySearch Family Tree has her as Alethea Baysinger (born Copper) Birth: Oct 1837 - West Point, Jackson, Illinois, United States Death: 1908 - Minnesota Husband: William Henry Baysinger Son: Lewis Baysinger Looks like the same person. > William H and Elitha Jane had a son, Lewis Cooper, born in Ill in June 1862. > He married Albertina/Tena/Lena Thranz in 1889 in Mason City, Iowa. Their son > Myron Henry, was my grandpa. He was born in Plymouth, Iowa in 1890. I didn’t > know that, but I remember him talking about going to Iowa to visit > relatives, in the summer. > > I have tried to find info on Iowa State sites, but I haven’t. When did > William H die and where is he buried? > > The other family trees similar to mine have a William Alsen, instead, who > died in Kansas. I don’t think that is correct. William Alsen seems to be the son of Valentine Baysinger, and Serena Jane Baysinger (born Ruby). This is Casper's younger brother. > Does this line up with the Baysinger info you have? My line is through the immigrants' son Casper as well. His son Peter born 1808 married Elizabeth Rice in Kentucky, 1832. Their oldest son Elias Henry born 1832 married my ggrandmother Sarah Maria Goosic in Warren County, Iowa and had my ggrandfather John Alfred Baysinger, who married Minnie Catherine Disney in Warren County, Iowa. Their eldest daughter Anna married my grandfather Harvey McBee. My mother was their seventh child of eleven! My mom was born in Warren County, Iowa too. I don't have an Ancestry sub right now, but I do use MyHeritage pretty heavily. I download what I can, and am trying to upload images and other evidence to Wikitree. It is the best site I've found for collaboration. I have no problem looking at other people's trees to get some hints as to where to look, but I try to rely on evidence such as census, BMD, military, legal and land records. The further back I get the more easily muddled the evidence is. I've put some of my thinking into the Wikitree page for William H., at http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Baysinger-34. Feel free to make that page better and more accurate, to link the census images to other family members, etc. If you feel like taking over the page, that's fine too. If you add some more information, I'll check on MyHeritage and see if they have supporting evidence. You may be able to see my tree there and supporting evidence: https://www.myheritage.com/site-family-tree-263769091/cowan-mcbee > I appreciate your help so much. > > Thank you, > > Linda Baysinger Peck Thanks for writing! I hope you join the Baysinger list or post on the Baysinger message board: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/mb.ashx . Those messages are relayed here, although unfortunately sometimes people forget and answer here on the list, rather than clicking the link, and answering on the board. Clumsy system, but that's what we have. All the best, Your cousin Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez

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    1. Re: [Baysinger] Clifford and Permelia Gunkle-Baysinger
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BonnieBlackwell84 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.baysinger/104.99.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Have info on this family grandson Daniel Lewis Baysinger , g grandson, Geoffrey Lewis Baysinger will share any info if you want Bonnie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>

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